User talk:MJL

SmallCat dispute case opened
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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

adding the flowers that seem to weep in memory, for what you said about Nosebagbear --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

It's very much appreciated &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 14:54, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you Gerda Arendt {
 * Today's story is about a great pianist with an unusual career, taking off when he was 50. It's the wedding anniversary of Clara and Robert Schumann, but I was too late with our gift. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Today I remember Raymond Arritt, who still helps me, five years after he died, per what he said in my darkest time on Wikipedia (placed in my edit-notice as a reminder), and by teh rulez. - Latest pics from a weekend in Berlin (one more day to come). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Proposed decision posted for the SmallCat dispute case
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Roads fork
I saw you were soliciting opinions on the roads fork and was wondering whether you're interested in mine. For context I am the "one person who is trying to destroy our entire side of Wikipedia just on the notability side" mentioned in the TikTok video. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 19:20, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

I've scheduled an interview for tomorrow. Is there anything you believe is important for me to ask them about? Any messages you want shared with the folks on the other side? &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 21:33, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Horse Eye's Back: I am incredibly interested in speaking to you (wasn't aware you were involved at all). I definitely want to speak to you about this! Do you do Discord? I'm in the Wikipedia server (near the top of the list). &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 01:47, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I haven't messed around on Discord in years... Also kind of philosophically opposed to doing interviews about wiki off wiki, I take an Audrey Tang style radical transparency approach to wikipedia and for me in this semi-anonymous form that means conducting wiki business on wiki. The big takeaway for me from that TikTok video is that it seems like we've been talking past each other, I hope interviews and third party analysis can help us all understand what happened here, why it happened, why it was so acrimonious (the one thing we can all apparently agree on is that feelings on both sides have been hurt), and whether there is hope of reconciliation. Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 19:01, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Horse Eye's Back: Given the nature of the questions I have for you, I'd struggle to conduct a meaningful interview on English Wikipedia. If you want a public and transparent interview, we can do one on a livestream (like Twitch). I would even be willing to release the resulting video under a free license and upload it to Commons (assuming filesize permits). &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 20:34, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * The roads topic area is almost comically low stakes, but not all of the topic areas I edit are (Palestinian-Israeli conflict, North Korea, human rights in China, the Taiwan-China conflict, contemporary American politics, American policing, cybersecurity, gender and sexuality, celebrity sexual assault/allegations thereof, etc). Maybe some day I will make an account for such communication but unfortunately I don't feel comfortable doing that today and I've already received death threats due to my wiki editing so not taking any new risks at the moment. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, is there any background you want? Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 20:52, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Horse Eye's Back: That's entirely fair! Privacy is pretty important, and I always respect that.
 * The question I'm most interested in is whether people see this as two issues like the person in the TikTok video (there seems to be the presumption in the newsletter that everybody knows who this is but I don't) does or whether they see it as one issue. In the TikTok video they say that there are two issued here, sourcing and notability... IMO the sourcing discussion is a subset of the notability one, the issue isn't that we aren't allowed to use primary sources and newspapers its that primary sources and passing mentions in newspapers (which is all some roads have) don't count towards notability. The other question would be whether they also feel that the single word "typically" in WP:GEOROAD was the core of the dispute (note that in the video this generally vs typically conflict becomes ironically extremely clear). As for a message to pass on it would be that I understand that for them this was not an abstract policy discussion, I would be pissed too if I'd invested so many years into something only to have someone else question its value and I understand why all this outside pressure over the years has felt like other editors/the community at large questioning the value of roads articles. Thinking the project should have consistency across its topic areas doesn't mean that I'm not incredibly grateful for the contributions of those in the past, we stand on the shoulders of giants here no matter what topic area we edit (which I would note must not be very comfortable for the giant). Horse Eye&#39;s Back (talk) 21:50, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Template
Hey MJL, forgive me for asking you directly because I do see you've stepped away from the project here, but I'm having a hard time getting a clickable button to work with a URL link and an embedded image and I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at what I've scrapped together so far. Also, this is entirely for personal use so I understand if this isn't a priority for you right now. Thanks! MicrobiologyMarcus(petri dish&#8226;cultures) 19:00, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

To get a bit of the sense of how clickable buttons 1 and 2 are different, you could recreate Example 2 using simply by transcluding. You'd get the exact same result. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 20:11, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @MicrobiologyMarcus: It took me a bit to figure it out, but it currently only seems possible to use clickable button 2 like that if done like this test case. Though, it's certainly not an ideal way to go about that, but I have no idea how it could be done better.
 * Wow, that's awesome! I'm impressed you pulled that from a log I was building to kept track of my sporadic attempts. And you got that really quick. Thanks so much for the help, I really appreciate it microbiology Marcus(petri dish&#8226;cultures) 02:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It's no big deal! The question was rather simple to answer, and it provided some new insights for me. Mainly, I have no idea how I would finish the merge if asked again. It's edge cases like this which gave me so much anxiety at the time I was trying. I just am not cut out for template work... &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 02:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Help-Class articles


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A beer for you!

 * lol thanks tho I don't drink, so I'll take a soda :P &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 03:03, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Emoji_u1f604.svg That's two sodas then. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:46, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive
 Hello MJL:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!

The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

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Barnstar for Mike Johnson (politician) close

 * I'm not going to challenge or anything, but I still think Mike Johnson (Oklahoma politician) + Mike Johnson (politician) is weird. Oh well, this time I'm one of those out of the everybody that couldn't be pleased. It happens. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:06, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: Yeah, sorry. I did see you weren't a fan, but I figured you could always suggest a later move to Mike Johnson (speaker) when the flames died down [which would be a lot easier/simpler from Mike Johnson (politician) than Mike Johnson (no parentheses)].
 * I much appreciate the barnstar! I spent a lot of time on this close (not just reading the discussion but checking everyone's links). The close ones are always pretty tough, but hopefully most people will be fine with it (since I think it reflects consensus well enough). Thank you so much!! :D &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 20:17, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Mike Johnson close
Greetings. With respect to your close on the Mike Johnson move, I understand your arguments, however, I do frankly disagree and was hoping to talk about it. For starters, you noted that "Enough people on both sides of the argument did state their prefered second choice was to move Mike Johnson (Louisiana politician) away from its current title into, at the very least, Mike Johnson (politician). Others suggested alternative disambiguations, but (politician) was easily the most prevalent."

This does not seem justified. By my count, only three people out of the more than 80 who responded voiced support for the title "Mike Johnson (politician)". It's not a vote, but that definitely doesn't strike me as consensus.

Additionally, in my view, you did not accurately represent the central arguments of the "Support" side. For instance, you pointed to one opposer's argument that the supporters based their arguments in WP:CRYSTALBALL. Obviously I'm biased as the nominator, but this does not seem accurate to me. The central argument of supporters was that he is already inherently notable by virtue of assuming this office. I know that that argument does not jibe with John Bell (Tennessee politician), but that article has received comparatively zero attention from editors, so this argument strikes me as WP:OTHERSTUFF.

Let me know your thoughts. I have not contested a close before so I don't want to step on anyone's toes, but I do take issue with the result in this instance. Best, Cpotisch (talk) 21:33, 5 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I'll try to respond in full to this when I get home. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 23:53, 5 November 2023 (UTC)


 * For what it's worth, I voted "oppose" in this nomination, but I sort of agree with the nominator here. I think the discussion established that there is not necessarily consensus for any type of "WP:PRIMARYTOPIC"-ish disambiguator. If I were looking at the close, I would have went with Mike Johnson (Speaker of the House). Steel1943  (talk) 23:55, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * "would have went with", really? --Trovatore (talk) 00:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Feel free to participate in the WP:MRV, if it opens. Steel1943  (talk) 00:17, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * By the way, what I meant was I read consensus as needing to use WP:PRECISE disambiguation of some sort, but taking into account that the "(Louisiana politician)" disambiguator was a WP:SURPRISE. Steel1943  (talk) 04:16, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * If you're talking to me, my comment was about grammar. I know, not really on-topic, but still. --Trovatore (talk) 06:08, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Forget this, I'm gone. Steel1943  (talk) 06:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cpotisch: Sorry, fell asleep and forgot this when I woke up.
 * With respect to my statements regarding whether Mike Johnson (politician) was a fitting title, I probably could've done a better job clarifying that there wasn't a strong consensus for any specific disambiguator, so I just picked the one most people mentioned as their preference. 6 seperate people explicitly mentioned (politician) as their choice while one person (Gråbergs Gråa Sång) was explicitly opposed to it. Though, upon re-reading things, I may have misinterpreted 's comment For what it's worth, I also oppose any disambiguator changes to the title, considering all other disambiguators suggested so far violate WP:PRECISE against "Louisiana politician" since the phrase "Louisiana politician" is not ambiguous in this case. That might have changed the decision a bit. I can amend the close to make it clear the move is based off weak consensus for (politician) and a proper disambiguator can be discussed at a later date (if that would ease concerns).
 * The only reason I didn't go with (Speaker of the House) instead was the fact it had so many variations floating around. (Speaker of the House), (speaker), and (U.S. House Speaker) were all in contention; but it wasn't clear which format was most prefered. Again, I figured it the desire was there, another requested move could be placed.
 * As for the other concerns laid out by Cpotisch...
 * So one of the confusing things about Wikipedia is terms have awfully specific meanings here. I don't think you mean to refer to WP:Notability but instead WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Likewise, WP:OTHERSTUFF is an essay about whether we should delete something. It doesn't really makes sense to cite it here because some stuff exists for a reason.
 * The reason we refer to primary topics here is because the standards for what we consider primary topics are different than notability. The criteria for that include a topic's long-term significance (not just its current usage). If an argument is being made that a subject is primary with respect to long-term significance by virtue of the subject holding a given office, then a successful counterargument to that would be prior office holders who are not primary topics themselves. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:26, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I appreciate the thorough reply. You definitely make a valid point about my imprecision in referencing certain guidelines and essays. I don't believe I was the one who pointed to WP:Notability, but yeah I completely misremembered WP:OTHERSTUFF. I'll ponder on this for a bit, as I am still somewhat inclined to request a move review (you make valid points, but I also feel like my grasp on the nuances of this process is tenuous enough that I'd want more input). But yours is definitely not an inherently unreasonable conclusion. Cpotisch (talk) 18:41, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERCONTENT may have been more what you were thinking of. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:57, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks I think that was it. Cpotisch (talk) 00:02, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response. I do agree that the discussion was a bit messy ... but as you seem to mention, there might've been a case for some sort of precise disambiguator (a point which goes against my own "vote"), even if it wasn't the one I stated. I'm at a point right now where I probably will not be the one to start the review, but if the review occurs, I will probably participate. (By the way, do not take this as me being ungrateful that you closed the discussion; contentious discussions are difficult to close, and someone had to do it. Kudos to you on that.) Steel1943  (talk) 19:40, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * You can't WP:BARTENDER your way into a WP:PDAB - partial disambiguation is an unusual phenomenon that should require explicit consensus in favor of its implementation, not one that emerges from nothing. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 00:27, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a good point right here. May make me reconsider not opening a WP:MRV. Darn it. Steel1943  (talk) 02:48, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I just started one if you didn't see. Cpotisch (talk) 04:17, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Pppery: I'm a bit confused by your statement here. It wasn't a close born from nothing; it was WP:NOTCURRENTTITLE-type close. The option I went with seemed to have the most support at the time; even though it was a WP:PDAB. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 07:21, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I've been trying to give you the benefit of the doubt on this, but come on. A total of seven people even acknowledged the existence of the (politician) option. Depending on how you judge their responses, between three and six of those actually supported it. This is out of more than eighty who participated and more than fifty who supported the "Mike Johnson" title. It's not a vote, but something that >90% of participants never even discussed can't seriously be considered the result of consensus. Cpotisch (talk) 04:16, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Industrial agriculture arbitration case
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At that arbitration case an editor, who I won't immediately name here but they are not an Involved Party, has in my opinion engaged in battleground behavior that includes bad-faith assumptions and aspersions. I can certainly provide multiple diff, but prior to doing that, could you tell me if there is a formal, within-case mechanism (perhaps in addition to notifying the clerks on their Talk pages) for reporting those concerns? Alternatively, do you suggest that I simply remain silent and let the arbitration committee consider, or not consider, such posts as they see fit? Thanks for your help. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 15:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)


 * (replied on my talk page :) ) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:05, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Move review for Mike Johnson (politician)
An editor has asked for a Move review of Mike Johnson (politician). Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. Cpotisch (talk) 23:46, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks again for replying to my inquiry about this. I still feel that it would benefit from a move review, but thanks for closing it, nonetheless. Cpotisch (talk) 23:46, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hi. Someone moved Mike Johnson back.
Hi MJL,

Someone moved Mike Johnson (politician) back to Mike Johnson (Louisiana politician). I tried moving it back, but it said the page "Mike Johnson (politician)" was already in use. Since you were the one that did the move in the first place can you fix it? Thanks. Alexysun (talk) 19:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

If you need help, I can get that process started for you; though, you might like to start that discussion yourself. Either way, let me know. { &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 04:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * See ES at . Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:21, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Alexysun: As Gråbergs Gråa Sång hinted at, my close was overturned. I brought it up here to, but I can't deny the response to my objection was reasonable.. even if it hurt my pride. Nothing left to do besides write a new move request.
 * Ok well if his response was valid, how would a new move request be agreed upon? Alexysun (talk) 03:26, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Alexysun: I'm a bit confused with your question. That discussion is already happening, and you already weighed in there where you expressed it was essentially a waste of time.. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 07:41, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I see. First, I thought a move request was more formal and involved more of the "Oppose" and "Support" responses. Second, I want the article to be moved, but I was just expressing that there was too much pushback against the move for no reason. Alexysun (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Alexysun: It's not the real move request. For contentious stuff, it's best to try and get a sense for where people are at before a move request happens (ie. What should the options be). When it does occur, I'll be sure to notify you (and everyone else involved in that thread) about it. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 21:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok gotcha. Thank you. Alexysun (talk) 21:42, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Template:Mixed access fix
hi! i noticed that the page for the mixed access template seems to be the same as the open access template page. i left a message on the article's talk page a little while ago but i thought i would mention it here as well since you're the creator of it :] i just am not sure how to fix it myself, lol. thanks!

Eatingbugs (talk) 22:17, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Eatingbugs: I believe you're referring to the documentation page for Mixed access? I never bothered to create one since it works exactly like open access. I suppose I should really fix it so that family of templates have their own shared documentation, so I'll do that now to avoid confusion in the future. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:51, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23
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 * ReviewStatus displays whether or not a mainspace page is marked as reviewed.
 * SpeciesHelper tries to add the correct speciesbox, category, taxonbar, and stub template to species articles.
 * User:Opencooper/svgReplace and Tol's fork replaces all rasterized SVGs with their original SVG codes for your loading pleasures. Tell us which one is better!
 * User:Phlsph7/HighlightUnreferencedPassages adds a button to highlight all unreferenced paragraphs in reds, and can even do it automatically.
 * Still hate Vector 2022's floating TOC? User:Phlsph7/UnfoldedNumberedTOC(Vector2022) might make you give it a try.
 * Quite a bit of pages at Special:WantedCategories either exist now or got removed. User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/hideUnwantedCategories automatically hides those.
 * User:SuperHamster's Tools/View it! generates a gallery of images for a given subject on any Wikimedia project utilizing Structured Data on Commons. Images can then be added as needed.
 * Terasail
 * ArticleInfo displays page information at the top of the page, directly below the title.
 * /HeaderIcons takes away the Vector 2022 user dropdown and replaces it with all of the icons within, top level, right next to the Watchlist. One less click away! There's also an alternate version that uses text links instead of icons.
 * ...and any more, all available at WP:US/L.

Due to budget and procrastination limitations, we've only had time to review the first ~39% of the scripts since last issue. Help us out here! <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 13:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

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Stub sorting
Hello, would members of a militia not be considered a part of the army for stub sorting?

Best, Geardona (talk) 23:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Geardona: Nah, it's not that simple. The US Army was a different military formation at that point in history. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 16:49, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Ok! thanks! Geardona (talk) 18:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Vito Castellano


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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:19, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 24
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#606060; background-color:#f8f8f8; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:7px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);" class="plainlinks"> Hello everyone, and welcome to the 24th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since. Uh-huh, we're finally covering the good ones among the rest! Aren't you excited? Remember to include a link in double brackets to the script's .js page when you install the script, so that we can see who uses the script in WhatLinksHere! The ScriptInstaller gadget automatically does this. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!

Cscr-featured.svg Featured script

 * Making user scripts load faster by SD0001 is this month's featured script, which caches userscripts every day to eliminate the overhead caused by force-downloading the newest version of scripts every time you open a Wikipedia page. Despite being released in April 2021, our best script scouters have failed to locate it due to its omission from the US of L. For security reasons, the script only supports loading JavaScript pages.

Farm-Fresh error go.png Newly maintained scripts
After earthly attempts at improving the original have failed...
 * Aaron Liu has created What redirects here from Guarapiranga/WhatRedirectsHere; their fork includes support for every MediaWiki wiki, corrected link positions, an access key, and some rudimentary translation.
 * Ahecht has created a fork of SiBr4/TemplateSearch, which adds the "TP:" shortcut for "Template:" in the search box, and updated it to be compatible with Vector 2022.
 * AquilaFasciata/goToTopFast is a much faster fork of the classic goToTop script that also adds compatibility for Minerva and Vector 2022.
 * Mesidast/Tidy citations is a fork of Meteor sandwich yum/Tidy citations is a fork of Waldyrious/formatcitations. It configurably harmonizes whitespace and cleans up parameters in citation templates, descriptive edit summary included.



Ambox important.svg Improve a script
Unfortunately, this section has remained nearly identical. Help us out here!
 * Many of our favorite scripts such as Fred Gandt/userResourceManager, Guarapiranga/search-shortcuts and Bradv/Superlinks haven't been updated for Vector 2022. You could be the one to change that!
 * Elominius/media timer works, but its UI looks alien. Someone could improve it...
 * To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
 * We want...
 * ...a mark-as-read button and watchlist notices support for Aaron Liu/Watchlyst Greybar Unsin
 * ...a tool to automatically fix CAT:BROKENREFs, preferably a fork/addition to TheJJJunk/ARA
 * ...a fix/fork of DannyS712/SectionRemover to make it work

Ambox clock yellow.svg Requested scripts

 * A simple script to second or archive proposed deletions
 * A script to auto-expand V22 ToC sections like this demo
 * A WP:3O response tool that can automatically remove the relevant request from the 3O dashboard
 * A byte filter to be split from Nux/LongTableFilters
 * ...and many more, all available at User scripts/Requests

Gnome-colors-list-add.svg New scripts

 * DannyS712/AbuseFilterMessageLinks add links to the "warn" and "disallow" messages in edit filters.
 * Diegodlh/Web2Cit/script adds an option to use Web2Cit (which WP:ProveIt also uses) instead of Citoid to generate citations in the Visual Editor.
 * Dragoniez/SuppressEnterInForm stops you from accidentally submitting anything due to pressing enter while in the smaller box, and works on almost anything... except the InputBox element itself, used in subscription lists and the Signpost Crossword! Oh, the humanity!
 * CopyVio detector, Adiutor.pngǵu/Adiutor (pictured) provides a nice, integrated interface to do some twinkley tasks such as copyvio detection, CSD tagging, and viewing the most recent diff.
 * Eejit43's redirect-helper script demo.png43 has quite the aesthetically pleasing scripts, all made in TypeScript.
 * /afcrc-helper is a replacement for the unmaintained Enterprisey/AFCRHS and processes Redirects for Creation and Categories for Creation requests.
 * /ajax-undo stops the "undo" button from taking you to another page while providing a text box to provide a reason for the revert.
 * /redirect-helper (pictured) adds a much better interface for editing and redirects, including categorization, for which valid categories are dictated by /redirect-helper.json.
 * /rmtr-helper helps process technical requested moves without being able to actually move them.
 * User Info Popup screenshot 1.jpg2/UserInfoPopup (pictured) adds a flyout after the watchlist star on userspace pages that displays the common information you might use about a user.
 * Jeeputer/editCounter, under userspace, adds a portlet link to count your edits by namespace, put them in a table, and put that table in a hardcoded subpage, all in the background.
 * Hilst/Scripts/sectionLinks converts all section links to use the § sign, which are known to be preferred over the ugly # by 99% of the devils I've met.
 * Moonythedwarf/extra-unreliable highlights phrases commonly used in spammed and POV'd paragraphs.
 * FormattedEditRequest-in-work.pngDungKhongDinhDanh/FormattedEditRequest (pictured) generates a wikitext-formatted diff view of any changes you've made that you can copy and paste anywhere.
 * PrimeHunter/Category source.js adds portlet links to tell you where a category for an article comes from and supports those from template transclusions.
 * Qwerfjkl/massCFD creates mass WP:CfD nominations.
 * Rublov/refspace highlights footnote spacing errors in red.
 * Sophivorus's MiniEdit adds some nice, li'l buttons next to paragraphs to edit their wikitext with a minimal interface.

Edit-listings

 * Dragoniez/ToollinkTweaks adds more and customizable links next to users in page history, logs, watchlist, recent changes, etc.
 * Firefly/more-block-info optimizes the display of rangeblocks in contribution pages. Doesn't work outside the English locale of any wiki, unfortunately.
 * Ingenuity/AbuseFilterContribs adds the edit filters that an edit tripped (if any) to a user's contributions page.
 * Nardog/ExamineMore makes it so the paging at Special:AbuseFilter/examine actually works, pending a fix to.
 * NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AjaxLoader makes paging links (e.g. older 50, 500, newest) load without refreshing and makes you realize how slow your internet actually is.

Appearance-ricing

 * Ahecht/RedirectID adds the redirect target to all redirects. For all the WP:NAVPOPS haters. (Do these exist?)
 * Dragoniez/MarkBLockedGlobal: Remember the "strike blocked usernames" gadget? Now you can use a red, dotted line to highlight rangeblocks and global locks!
 * GhostInTheMachine/GraphicReplyLink replaces the [ ] link with 💬, which is some sort of rainy cloud I guess?
 * En.WP VPP Screen Shot 2024-01-13 with custom CSS.pngey/common (pictured) has some styles to overhaul your Vector 2022 experience. It reduces padding everywhere, and makes the top bar animation faster.
 * Aaron Liu/V22 is a fork that narrows the sidebars instead of upheaving them, reverts the January 2024 dropdown changes, and restores the old page-link color for links that don't go outside the current wiki.
 * Nardog: SmartDiff is a spiritual successor to Enterprisey/fancy-diffs. It makes the page title part of links in diffs clickable, along with template and parser function calls. Unnamed parameters can be configured per template to also be linked. All links are styled based on the normal CSS classes of rendered links.
 * Phlsph7/ClassicalTOC (Vector 2022) reinserts the inline table of contents to pages under Vector 2022.
 * For the paranoid: Rublov/anonymize replaces your username at the top of the screen with the generic "User page" text. Remember, it is your duty to persuade everyone that editing is an honor.
 * Sideswipe9th/Vector 2022 Floating Tools Menu moves the Page Tools menu to the left and makes it float along with the table of contents.
 * Sm8ps/SectionEditing makes pressing Tab toggle the visibility of the tiny [ ] links next to section headings.. Not a great name, eh?
 * The wub/tocExpandAll adds a button on top of the floating ToC to expand or collapse subheadings.

Permissions required!

 * Ahecht/potd-helper: A script to post the picture of the day. A powerful upgrade for your mop.
 * Selective Rollback dialog.pngniez
 * /AjaxBlock provides a dialog box for easy input of reasons while blocking users.
 * /Selective Rollback (pictured) provides a dialog box to customize rollback edit summaries and does them without reloading the page. Seriously, why doesn't MediaWiki already do this?
 * Theleekycauldron/DYK promoter automates (nearly) all the work needed to post a DYK hook.

QOL shortcuts

 * BrandonXLF/SVGEditor lets you edit any file that is an SVG, straight from the file page.
 * DanCherek/UAABotRemover adds a portlet link to enable a removal shortcut of faulty reports from Usernames for administrator attention.
 * DreamRimmer/BlankUserPage helps you destroy webhost-ers' hopes and dreams with a user-friendly dialog box.
 * ESanders (WMF)/commentlinks.js adds a "link" button right after the "reply" button while the WMF struggles to reach feature parity with Convenient Discussions.
 * Isaacl/copy-comment-link-to-clipboard does exactly what you'd think it does, but in Wikitext.
 * FenrisAureus/SimpleStatus adds a shortcut at the top to edit your /Status subpage while providing a pre-made template.
 * Fred Gandt/addCloneClearButtonAboveScributoConsole: What a mouthful! Yet all it does (no offense) is add another button on top of the Lua module debug console.
 * Guarapiranga/GlobalWatchlistLink adds a link to metawiki:Special:GlobalWatchlist next to the normal watchlist.
 * Nardog
 * PasteToCommons adds a paste handler to upload the pasted image to Wikimedia Commons.
 * Unpipe tries to detect violations of WP:NOPIPE and fix them as much as possible.
 * Ohconfucius/tometricunits automatically adds unit conversions of imperial units in brackets after their uses per MOS:UNITS.
 * Suntooooth
 * /flickrsearch adds a portlet link to search for uploadable flickr images about the subject.
 * /randomincategory adds a portlet link when on Category pages to go to a random page in the current category.
 * Vghfr/EasyTemplates adds a portlet link to automatically insert some of the most common inline fix templates.

Yes, we're just doing 'em as we go now. Thanks for reading through this looong issue, if you did! I'm sure this'll send a record for the longest issue ev-ah. You may need to wait even longer for the last issue, as our reserve of old-y and goodie scripts have ran out... We encourage you to try and do some of the requests or improvement tasks. See you in Summer, hopefully!

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Discuss this issue MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:37, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Testing?
Is this thing on? Probably the longest away I've been from Wikipedia.

I'll be back soon. &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times, times"> MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 18:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Maria Perez (politician)
Hello, MJL. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Maria Perez (politician), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:07, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Technical question
Sorry to disturb you, but I wasn't sure if my message would be recieved if I asked on English Wikisource, since you haven't edited that project for a year.

A few years ago (in 2019) you ressurected Wikisource news. I've tried this again, albeit in a far smaller format, but I have a question about the supposedly automatic messages (in theory from MediaWiki Message Delivery). (I don't have any experience in that technical realm). Do they get sent out by a bot at some point, ideally soon-ish? Do I have to do something to prompt it to send a message to the talk pages? Or does it not work, and I should thus hand out messages myself?

Thanks for any help you can provide. Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 23:39, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C
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 * You can find this message translated into additional languages on Meta-wiki. 

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You are receiving this message because you previously participated in the UCoC process.

This is a reminder that the voting period for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) ends on May 9, 2024. Read the information on the voting page on Meta-wiki to learn more about voting and voter eligibility.

The Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is a global group dedicated to providing an equitable and consistent implementation of the UCoC. Community members were invited to submit their applications for the U4C. For more information and the responsibilities of the U4C, please review the U4C Charter.

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Concern regarding Draft:Proshipper
Hello, MJL. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Proshipper, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 21:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation
Hi MJL :) I'm looking for experienced editors to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 04:38, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:PCGamingWiki
Template:PCGamingWiki has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 08:40, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the image on Agenda 47
Thanks for fixing that image on the page. Don't know why I didn't think of putting it into a box like that. Have a fox as my thanks!

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