User talk:MMABot/WillDawg 01 2013

NO
I vote NO, with all the controversy going on right now, I don't want you programming something that will edit all the articles in the project. I don't think its appropriate for you to be doing this. I also strongly urge you not to try to use this unless you can get the entire group to give you the go ahead. Willdawg111 (talk) 06:47, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Personal talk page or bot for the MMA project
You can't have it both ways. If you are creating a bot to use for the MMAproject, then it belongs to the project and you don't have a right to control people's opinion. If this is a pesonal talk page then you don't have a right to use it on all of the articles of the project. Pick which one you are deciding to hold onto. The group hasn't come to a compromise that is satisfactory for everybody, so you have no buisness trying to change everything at this point. Willdawg111 (talk) 18:19, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Request on admin page
A request to temporarily block use of the MMAbot until a compromise can be obtained on formats and guidelines that are acceptable to the entire group has been place on the admin page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#IP_deleting.2Fchanging_navboxes. Willdawg111 (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:BOTCOMM
Can I draw your attention, please to the "Good Communication" section of the Bot Policy page, which says:

"Users who read messages or edit summaries from bots will generally expect a high standard of cordiality and information, backed up by prompt and civil help from the bot's operator if queries arise. Bot operators should take care in the design of communications, and ensure that they will be able to meet any inquiries resulting from the bot's operation cordially, promptly, and appropriately. This is a condition of operation of bots in general . At a minimum, the operator should ensure that other users will be willing and able to address any messages left in this way if they cannot be sure to do so themselves. (emphasis added)"

In light of this, I suggest that you stop deleting messages from editors who have concerns about your bot and address their concerns. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you look above, I have restored Willdawg's messages. He has raised no specific complaints other than I shouldn't be operating MMABot.  I don't know how to respond to that kind of complain other than to say I have the support of a number of people in the MMA WikiProject to operate this bot and its tasks for v1 and v2 have been approved by the WP:BAG.  If you have suggestions or guidance for me in regards to this issue I certainly welcome it.  I've been asking at ANI for two days now at this thread for guidance as to how to deal with Willdawg and I have been ignored. --TreyGeek (talk) 20:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * At this, my only suggestions is that you respond to him as you just did to me, and to not remove his messages because it looks as if you're ignoring him. Obviously if, at some point, the discussion gets out of hand, that's a different matter.  You might also address his somewhat more specific concerns on his AN/I posting. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:56, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposed compromise
I will withdraw my objection to using the bot to edit tables, if you guys are willing to compromise on a couple minor issue. A couple other editors and I have a concern about tables ending up fluffed up and hard to read. I want 2 minor changes, I want the judges scorec in the comment section because it makes the columns easier to read. I want to eliminate the redunancy with KO's and TKO's. 95% of KO and TKO fights end with some sort of strikes, so it isn't necessary to add it. The only time it would be necessary is if its something out of the ordinary like a physician stoppage or not answering the bell. The font needs to be just a little bit bigger to make it stick out with all the colors that are being added. How about it, are you guys willing to compromise on a couple minor details in order to get what you want on the big issues. Willdawg111 (talk) 21:56, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * These kinds of suggestions belong at this WT:MMA discussion. MMABot will only make changes that have been approved by the WikiProject (and the WP:BAG) as per discussions like that one.  This talk page is more for overall bot feature requests (such as "modify yyy tables to follow XXX format approved by the MMA WikiProject", development/programming discussions, and bug reports.  --TreyGeek (talk) 22:13, 16 January 2013 (UTC)