User talk:MPerel/Archive 2008

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please
Please respond to Bikinibomb's comments about figs and Judaism here, thanks Slrubenstein  |  Talk 00:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

You are invited
YOU GOT IT!

My original intention was a table of terms that could be taken different ways between Jews and Christians. For instance: "Christian Bible" means "New Testament" to Jews and "Old and New Testament" to Christians.

The table got bloated with definitions instead of disambiguations.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that the glossary of Jewish and Christian terms should be three different pages. The one I'm interested in relaunching is my original disambiguation idea, without the bloat.

The idea is a table with a term column, a Christian column, a Jewish column, and a disambiguation column. If you are interested in helping me get rid of the "Messianic" column and the bloated definitions, and recreate an abbreviated table, please let me know.

The old table is preserved in an archive on my namespace.Tim (talk) 19:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

more help needed
your earlier comments were so construcive and thoughtful, could you be sure to comment here ? Slrubenstein  |  Talk  —Preceding comment was added at 23:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Input with Saudi Arabian Jewish history
Hi Miri, hope all goes well. Maybe you can help improve the History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia article. It links to smaller articles about Jewish tribes in the areas of present-day Saudi Arabia, such as Banu Awf, Banu Harith, Banu Jusham, Banu Najjar, Banu Sa'ida, Banu Shutayba and they all cited sources. Now User:Bless sins is requesting "sources" for the same information about the tribes in the History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia article, as well as making other requests for sources and whatnot. (If you like, and have a minute or two, see the discussions that have been taking place at Category talk:Jewish Saudi Arabian history.) Please help out in the History of the Jews in Saudi Arabia article. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 14:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Deletion sorting
Well, there are two questions wrapped up in your one posting to my talk page.
 * 1) how do I extend the scope of Deletion sorting?
 * 2) how should BLP articles about individuals who have requested deletion of articles about themselves be handled?

The answer to the first question lies with the WikiProject, at WikiProject Deletion sorting. I have never proposed a change myself, so I don't know anything about the dynamics of that group.

The answer to the second question lies with the WP:DELETION and WP:BLP policies and the people who work with and around it.
 * My understanding is that, in general, Sir X may nominated Sir X for deletion, suggest that on the article's talk page, or take advantage of other routes available to other editors, in which case the article goes through the process initiated with little regard for the person doing the request ... because the article should be judged on its merits. Probably the most effective way for Sir X to get his article deleted is to tag it with db-bio if he feels that he is not notable, or db-attack if it is a defamatory piece, or db-author if Sir X wrote a piece about himself and had second thoughts.  This route involves the fewest people and raises the least fuss ... and can be damned fast.  This is the route I would take personally if I were so blessed/cursed to be feted or lampooned by editors here.
 * If Sir X is a public figure, the best he could do is to dispute content rather then request deletion, as the public record is accessible and public figures have generally lost some of their right to privacy simply by being a public figure. This is well established in American law, but I'm not sure if it is so under other systems of jurisprudence.
 * Issues regarding biographies of living persons can be taken through a couple of routes, none of which I have taken myself before. BLP is probably the best place to start as a coordination point for this matter.

Hope this smattering of words is helpful to you.

Regards, User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 03:02, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I just wanted to say
That I love your user page.  T i a m u t talk 03:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Mperel, I feel the exact same way about you. I've always appreciated your thoughtful interjections during the discussion of difficult issues, but never got around to telling you, until today. Thank you for your kind words.  T i a m u t talk 14:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I would like to apologize
It was I who made those nasty remarks in the park thread. I would like to formally apologize and thank you for removing it. Hashem must love you for the good deeds I see you've done.

דוד —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.45.54 (talk) 20:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Extremist sources
To be consistent with you may want to check a few more pages. Enjoy :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 05:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Odd revert
Why did you revert my notification to JzG? It is usually expected that users be notified when they are mentioned in a complaint or report. *confused* Vassyana (talk) 18:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

A comment on whois and WP:RS
I'm responding in your talk page since it does not have anything to do with Abraham Gancwajch any more. Please forgive me if these things are obvious for you but: there is no single whois database and there is a difference between a web site and the ip address range. Therefore a respectable web site can be not registered with whois and vice versa. Also, I think WP:RS does not mention whois as a tool for verification of reliability of a website contents. --Lysytalk 19:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Haiti
This is the english version of the article. Someone changed the name of Spanish Haiti to Haiti Espanol (which is the same thing in spanish) I tried to move it back but am having trouble since I can't move the history. Can you help? thanks 66.152.198.210 (talk) 04:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Unification Church
Thanks for trying to help protect the article from vandalism. Could it be semi-protected for a while. I don't know how that works. Steve Dufour (talk) 17:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

There was no vandalism. Though you may like to distort the truth and delete historical facts, the rest of the world deserves to know. I was learn more about Wikipidea and make sure that a better balanced article is created. One that is based on historical fact with out editing the history that you don't like. A first hand account of a Japanese person giving away her families money and putting her 6 children on the street is fact. Her coming to family and friends lying and make up all types of stories to get money for the church is fact. Either you get a bunch more uncomfortable facts on the article immediately or I will do my best to completely re-write the article, bring attention of this disception to main stream media and make sure you have as little as possible with this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.66.71.134 (talk) 18:29, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Israeli-Palestinian collaboration
Hi. Did you create a userbox for WP:IPCOLL?! That's great. I don't suppose you mind if we steal it for now? Maybe you have an image or design to add as a logo? Meanwhile, it would also be great if you looked at the talk page and chimed in on the section where we consider choosing an article for an improvement drive -- which one(s) might you participate in? (Feel free to comment on other threads too, of course.) L'hit, HG | Talk 19:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
ClueBot and VoaBot need to learn how to read edit summaries. :) And I know that wouldn't have happened if I had an account. But I don't wish to have one. Just wanted to fix that one page. Again, thanks for your help. 198.164.250.31 (talk) 16:56, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome! And thank you for catching the dups in the first place : ) -- M P er el 16:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Vegetarianism of A. H.
Hallo, today, you've reverted three edits, among them one of mine. I had made this modification after reading the book used as a source via books.google. I had also explained in my revision comment that the purpose of my edit was to make the text more accurate. Greetings, --Schwalker (talk) 20:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reverting back, Greeting --Schwalker (talk) 21:37, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Shalom aleichem —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.202.36.71 (talk) 00:39, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Problematic new Christian/Jewish template
Hi Miri: Please see the discussions at Template talk:Books of the Bible concerning the new troubled and troubling Books of the Bible template. Your attention to this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 05:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Please warn vandals
You reverted vandalism on Wart around 01:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC) a couple of times, but you did not warn the vandal (65.95.100.17). Please--whenever you revert vandalism, use the templates at Warn to warn the vandals. Thank you! Fléêťflämẽ U-T-C 01:07, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Why revert my edit to nouvelle cuisine which was to remove a dead link? 198.96.135.62 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 20:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I see. I didn't realize that offended Jews. My mistake. - 72.187.200.161 (talk) 20:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well that, but more importantly, the Manual of Style states that It is inappropriate for a Wikipedia editor to change from one style to another unless there is a substantive reason. In most cases we stick with whichever era style was used originally on the article, unless there is a consensus to change.  On most Jewish articles, BCE is typically the era style of choice. -- M P er el  01:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Please consider also warning vandals
Thank you for reverting vandalism on Wikipedia. Could you also please consider using our vandal warning system ? First offenses get a "test1," then a "test2," followed by a "test3" and "test4." At the end of this, if the vandal persists, he or she merits blocking for a period of time. If you do this, it will greatly help us in decreasing vandalism on Wikipedia. Much thanks, --  K u k i ni  hablame aqui 01:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Kukini, I hear what you're saying, and while I do give out warnings, I tend to reserve them for persistent vandals who are using a static ip or an actual account. I find that the majority of vandalism is by one-time ip hitters who've either done their sole hit for the day or moved on to the next ip.  Therefore it seems more effective to invest energy in simply quickly reverting the vandalism, making vandal edits short-lived and therefore not worthwhile to the vandal, rather than expending lots of energy posting warnings.  One negative side of warnings is that they give vandals the attention they're seeking, and if the ip is blocked it more likely affects the next innocent editor assigned the ip, rather than the targeted vandal.  This is why I feel the time it takes to post a warning, in most cases, could be more fruitfully used reverting several other vandal edits. -- M P er el  01:55, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I hate to be the contrarian, but is there any evidence the vandal warning system decreases vandalism on Wikipedia? &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 02:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Exactly, thank you. I would even venture to say it's possible the vandal warning system increases vandalism since most of the vandals are just kids trying to get a rise from someone, anyone, and being threatened with warnings will be deemed success from their perspective.  A boring undramatic revert seems the best remedy, imo.  -- M P er el  03:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: A Request
Hyperbole? Humor? Moi???--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 02:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Anarchism
Yo, thanks for watching the talkpage, I have no idea how that happened as I was just trying to add a comment. Regards, скоморохъ  21:16, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

rachel hamas corrie
see talk page. IDF camera footage of the day is released and ISM propaganda photos have been analyzed and proven photoshopped fakes. There is no more discussion. She was protecting a smuggling tunnel nothing else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.7.75.222 (talk) 22:11, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

WP:Own at Palestinian people
[|Here] is the first of 11 edits I made to Palestinian people during the last couple days. None lasted more than a few minutes before being reverted, including citation requests for references to confirm WP:NOR, a tag to point out the conflation of definitions, and contributions of relevant and reliable sources, e.g., Bernard Lewis. Even my correction of mispellings is reverted. I will understand if you don't want to get involved in such a miserable corner of Wikipedia. I know I'm about to lose interest. However, if you do choose to take a look, I'm sure WP will be better for it. I'm sure my attempts at contribution can benefit from improvement, but outright reversion me thinks not. May all your editing be happy. Best, Doright (talk) 03:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Agreement with Shirahadasha
Hi MPerel: Thanks for your attention. See User talk:Shirahadasha where I notify User 's agreeing to Shira's proposal at Requests for comment/IZAK2 (and I still hold by Requests for comment/IZAK2). What are your thoughts on the matter? Thanks. IZAK (talk) 16:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Endorsing new proposal
Hi MPerel: Thank you for giving this matter your serious attention. I wanted to let you know that I have now endorsed the latest "Proposed intermediate verdict 3.1" at Requests for comment/IZAK2. Thanks, IZAK (talk) 16:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk Page Blanking
Thank you for keeping an eye out for vandalism, but per USER and Don't restore removed comments I am fully entitled to remove any comment from my page. FYI the vandalism warnings were subsequently deleted by admin as they were unjustified: a bot had posted a 'false positive' and an editor who had not bothered to read the bot's full warning reacted to that! Regards, Chris 86.144.78.59 (talk) 20:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your very polite reply and you apology is glady accepted. You are right about setting up a apropper account.  Will egt round to it.  Regards

Chris 86.144.78.59 (talk) 14:01, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

AWB sweep for multiple wikireferences
Hi. I notice that you've been doing an AWB sweep, removing second and subsequent wikireferences from articles.

I'm not sure that this should be done on autopilot.

As the MoS recognises, there may sometimes be good reasons for having a cross-reference wikilinked more than once in an article -- for example in a long article, where the cross-references appear in different sections a long way apart.

If a cross-reference has been a running theme in an article, linking only the first instance is absolutely right. But if it occurs so rarely that the reader reasonably might not remember it had already occurred; or, eg, it's a newspaper name in a list of Obituaries at the bottom, then editors may have made quite a sensible judgment to wikilink the cross-reference again.

Jheald (talk) 12:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you my dear!
You are the sweetest. This will all be over soon enough won't it? Yours, Jihad McGraw —Preceding comment was added at 21:11, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

My RfB
I wanted to personally thank you, MPerel, for your support in my recent RfB. I am thankful and appreciative that you feel that I am worthy of the trust the community requires of its bureaucrats, and I hope to continue to behave in a way that maintains your trust in me and my actions. I have heard the community's voice that they require more of a presence at RfA's of prospective bureaucrats, and I will do my best over the near future to demonstrate such a presence and allow the community to see my philosophy and practices in action. I hope I can continue to count on your support when I decide to once again undergo an RfB. If you have any suggestions, comments, or constructive criticisms, please let me know via talkpage or e-mail. Thank you again. -- Avi (talk) 15:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Your vote
I appreciate your good judgement in Islam and anti-Christian persecution. But can you apply your logic, which you provided in the Historical persecution by Christians in a similar article Historical persecution by Hindus?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 16:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If the article existed, then what would be your comment on that article?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 20:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA - Discospinster
Thank you so much for your support in my RfA, which was successful with a final count of 70/1/1! ... disco spinster   talk  23:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your support!
Hello, and thanks for your support in my recent RFA! The final result was 61/0/3, so I've been issued the mop! I'm extremely grateful for your confidence in me and will strive to live up to it. Thanks again! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you so much!
Thank you for giving me a barnstar! It is very appreciated! You keep up the good work, too! ;) –The Obento   Musubi  ( Contributions ) 01:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue I - April 2008
Aloha. The April 2008 issue of the Hawaii WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaii 15:25, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: WikiProject Hawaii Newsletter
Do whatever you wish. For AWB, you can contact Viriditas, and if he says okay, then feel free to do so! –The Obento   Musubi  ( Contributions ) 16:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Too late! I decided to publish because we are coming up to April Fool's Day on UTC.  &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 16:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Aha, my eager friend beat me. Maybe you were anxious to get it out forgetting March has 31 days?  Beautiful job though. : ) -- M P er el  19:07, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh. I like to pad my deadlines with at least 24 hours.  :)  Listen, I saved you a world of trouble.  When AWB tried to append User talk:Secisek‎'s talk page, it would throw me a "new message" box and then hang.  If you get a chance, can you try to investigate the problem?  I'm not sure, but if I had to guess, I would say that  on his talk page is the culprit.  Any idea how to force AWB to append a talk page if it encounters this tag again?  We should probably find out for future deliveries.  &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 22:34, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Pah! You are too dang disciplined and prepared!  Why not live perilously and randomly on the edge like me??!  I’m going to have to start sending you demotivators to loosen you up from being so competent and organized, so you won’t make the rest of us look so bad!  Er meanwhile, yes, I’ll try to see what’s throwing AWB. Toodle-oos. -- M P er el  22:55, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Two words: WatchlistBot. Hehehe...&mdash;Viriditas | Talk 23:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ha! Gotcha! Well listen, I can't get your error to reproduce. I replicated Secisek's talk page as it was before you tried to append to it, then ran the same append from AWB that you were attempting and had no problem.  Are you running the most updated version of AWB (4.3.0.2)?  Did you have everything else unchecked so that the only thing AWB was attempting was the append?  Maybe I just have the magic touch :P  I'll also take a look and see if the person you tried before Secisek might have left you with some residual problem. -- M P er el  00:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, so it looks like there was some sort of trouble happening for the person right before Secisek, SeanMD80. I see you posted the newsletter twice to his page and then deleted the dupe. What was the sequence of events that caused that?  What did you use for the list of recipients, did you create a text file on your desktop? Were there any typos that might have caused the glitch? -- M P er el  00:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly certain SeanMD80 has nothing to do with it. It was duplicated because after AWB successfully added the newsletter to his page, it crashed when it got to Secisek.  Then, when I restarted AWB, I must have started from SeanMD80 again.  Thanks for testing the problem in your sandbox.  I just tried running the test on your user page and I ran into the same problem.  I'm running: AWB Version 4.3.0.2; Windows version: 6.0; .NET Version 2.0.50727.312; IE version: 7.0.6000.16609.  Do you know if these match your own or if they are correct?  When I tried running the test on your sandbox, AWB halts and a "New message" box pops-up, with the text: "You have a new message, please view it before continuing.  Please choose whether to open the message in Internet Explorer or your default browser."  Then, I'm presented with two buttons to choose my browser, "Internet Explorer" or "Default".  If I choose either one, it just brings me to my talk page, but doesn't allow me to continue running AWB. It seems to me that  is halting my version of AWB.  I'm also running it on Vista; what about you?  Perhaps it is just a configuration problem on my end? &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 08:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly certain everything was unchecked; should I have any plug-ins loaded? &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 08:29, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll try testing it some more and see if any changes I make to the config. fixes the problem. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 08:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Nothing works. According to the help pages, it seems to be a problem with my IE settings and/or monobook.js. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 08:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm running all the same versions as you, AWB Version 4.3.0.2; Windows version: 6.0; .NET Version 2.0.50727.312; IE version: 7.0.6000.16609, and on Vista as well. At least that eliminates that. I have no AutoWiki plugins.  You have quite an extensive monobook.js, and so does Lar who reported the problem back in (wow) 2006.  You're probably right that that's your culprit.  I'll look later tonight (and you might compare as well) to find where the similarities in your monobook and Lar's are and mess with trying to pinpoint what's causing it. -- M P er el  13:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Why don't I just wipe out my monobook as a test? &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 13:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Good idea, that would at least help determine if it's the cause. If it is, and you're able to get AWB to work, then you can add each of the modules back into your monobook and find out which one is causing the problem. -- M P er el  13:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That didn't work. Now let me try unloading the plug-ins. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 13:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I just tried using your monobook, and it worked for me. So we've eliminated the monobook connection, unless there's some weird combination that's happening. -- M P er el  13:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

What does: do? Can I remove it without damaging my page? -- Secisek (talk) 23:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think you need to remove it. -- M P er el 00:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems to be a known problem. I haven't found the solution just yet, but it was first described in July, 2006 in the thread, Talk page newsletter delivery problems? &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 08:55, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: AWB
No, it doesn't work on my desktop, but I'm going to test it on my laptop in a few hours or so. Anyway, since you were interested, I've added your name to distribution over at the News Bureau. Have you had a chance to install WatchlistBot yet? :) A manual update of the difference between whatlinkshere on WPHawaii and the |WPHawaii recent changes page would be greatly appreciated.  If I understand correctly, there's a way to have AWB help you do it. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 10:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

AWB delivery
Yes, please deliver the May newsletter. It should be done by the 29th at the latest, but I'm sure I'll talk to you before then. Don't forget to check the exceptions on the outreach page. Viriditas (talk) 09:00, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Viriditas
Thanks for your message about Viriditas. I have already stepped back, if indeed I ever stepped forward! Unfortunately he keeps making false allegations and harassment towards me, thus I try and communicate to clear it up. But anyway, take care. SunCreator (talk) 08:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue II - May 2008
Aloha. The May 2008 issue of the Hawaii WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaii 17:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Warning
Please do not engage in disruptive and/or unseemly conduct like you did here - please also ensure you do not (in the future) attempt to intimidate an editor by threatening to retaliate, if they continue to pursue the dispute resolution process. Ncmvocalist (talk) 19:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Excuse me, is this a joke? I'm not finding it funny.  -- M P er el  19:08, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No it is not a joke. Perhaps your frivolous claim of bad faith assumptions in reply is?


 * The WQA page does not exist only to endorse people's comments - however, it does not exist to make threats of any sort, let alone this (If you don't stop pursuing the DR process against him, then I will consider pursuing it against you for your problematic behavior (even though I would not if you drop it)). That is retaliatory - plain and simple. The DR process does not exist for such a purpose. Therefore, you have been warned - there is no assumption of bad faith. Ncmvocalist (talk) 19:27, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * See my reply here. -- M P er el 20:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * MPerel, you shouldnt take trolling seriously. Just revert gratuitous 'warnings' and be done.  Dont feed it.  That user in question is also as we speak, endorsing a "mudsling and run" of me on tha same board.  That board seems to be some kind of gathering place of all those whose POV pushing gets busted or something.  Cheers. Sarvagnya 22:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * His behavior toward me certainly did take me by surprise. In my nearly four years tenure here, I’ve never had anyone aggressively  threaten me this way, particularly since it was unprovoked.   His threats can't be taken too seriously, however, as a brief perusal of his contributions reveals a history consisting solely of hanging out on dispute talk pages stirring up trouble inflaming disputing editors, and then handing out ominous sounding warnings.  I can’t even see where he’s actually edited any articles, so he has nil credibility in judging editors. -- M P er el  08:14, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * :) Watch your words or he and his friends may haul you up on that board for "incivility".  Truth be said, you sized him up quite accurately.  I've seen him from up close for as long as he's been an editor and I dont recall any contributions of his to article space or talk page discussion worth mention.  His beef with me is that I busted his screed on Carnatic music sourced to patently non-RS and now he seems to have made it his life's mission to go around socializing on any and sundry 'boards', masquerading as an "uninvolved editor" and ostensibly, one "with experience".  That he does, when he's not posing as the 'leader' of the dysfunctional "Article rating team" of the WP:INDIA project.  Also curiously, WP:CIVIL seems to have become the last refuge of those who get their POV pushing busted. Sarvagnya 18:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

And hey! btw, did you say you've been around for four years?! Wow. Would you please be able to weigh in on this discussion please? Yes, I ask you to do so for selfish reasons because I'm having serious trouble with convincing people that WP:RS is non-negotiable. And fwiw, I find it deeply troubling thatarticles sourced extensively to non-RS sources can garner as much support on an FAC as this one. As one with rich experience, I am sure your views will carry due weight. Please do weigh in. Thanks. Sarvagnya 18:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Greg Mortenson photos
Hi, sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Unfortunately, all three flickr images lack the free licensing Wikipedia prefers, but you might be able to contact the copyright holder directly and ask them if it would be ok to use one on Wikipedia with a license we can use. My guess is that the author of this photo might be willing to change the CC licensing (it's presently tagged as Noncommercial-No Derivative, which we can't use), but I'm not sure about the other two. Let me know if I can help in any way. Viriditas (talk) 00:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Preity Zinta
No problem; I had to speak up though so an incorrect impression wouldn't be given to subsequent readers. Sandy Georgia (Talk) 05:21, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you spoke up, I struck the part about gutting the article with an accompanying note. -- M P er el 07:56, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Rfb participation thanks
Hello, MPerel.

I wanted to personally thank you for taking part in the project-wide discussions regarding my candidacy for bureaucratship. After bureaucratic discussion, the bureaucrats decided that there was sufficient significant and varied opposition to my candidacy, and thus no consensus to promote. Although personally disappointed, I both understand and respect their decision, especially in light of historical conservatism the project has had when selecting its bureaucrats. If you have any further suggestions or comments as to how you think I could help the project, please let me know. Once again, thank you for your support. -- Avi (talk) 17:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker (talk) 15:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Ditto
, just a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully with 112 supports, 2 opposes, and 1 neutral. If there's something I've realized during my RFA process this last week, it's that adminship is primarily about trust. I will strive to honour that trust in my future interactions with the community. Many thanks! Gatoclass (talk) 06:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

AfD closing
Re:. Hi, I just wanted to remind you that the closing template goes above the main section header for AfDs (and MfDs). Cheers, –Black Falcon (Talk) 02:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. :) Best, –Black Falcon (Talk) 02:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

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Special delivery
No, that's perfectly fine. That will give me some extra time. Heh. Viriditas (talk) 02:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue III - June 2008
Aloha. The June 2008 issue of the Hawaii WikiProject newsletter has been published. To change your delivery options or unsubscribe, visit this link. Mahalo nui loa. WikiProject Hawaii 04:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Birth dates
Please be very careful not to add birth date cats when the year of birth is unknown (as you did at David Lewiston). Badagnani (talk) 07:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * My tired eyes didn't notice the "ca." in the year at the time of adding. -- M P er el 07:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Ukulele‎
Fantastic job! Keep at it and I'm sure you'll get this to GA in no time. :) BTW, if you have any other photos of the Rockwell horse, I wonder if it would be suitable as a featured image.  Or do you think there is a copyright issue?  Viriditas (talk) 10:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

TUSC token d74f981518c03a2ad8edf5ed0f556f1d
I am now proud owner of a TUSC account!

Gil Student and Teaneck
Do you have a source to connect Gil Student to Teaneck? I haven't been able to find any and I had never heard that he lived here. Alansohn (talk) 07:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue IV - July 2008
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Allegations of apartheid deletion notification
Some time ago, you participated in a deletion discussion concerning Allegations of Chinese apartheid. I thought you might like to know that the parent article, Allegations of apartheid, was recently nominated for deletion. Given that many of the issues that have been raised are essentially the same as those on the article on which you commented earlier, you may have a view on whether Allegations of apartheid should be kept or deleted. If you wish to contribute to the discussion, please see Articles for deletion/Allegations of apartheid (fifth nomination). -- ChrisO (talk) 18:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue V - August 2008
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This newsletter was automatically delivered because you are a member of one or more Judaism related WikiProjects. If you would like to opt out of future mailings, please remove your name from this list. As always, please direct all questions, comments, requests, barnstars, offers of help, and angry all-caps anti-semitic rants to my talk page. Thanks, and have a great month. L'Aquatique [ approves | this | message  ] 20:31, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


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Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue VI - September 2008
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Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue VII - October 2008
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November delivery
What time can you deliver the newsletter? Viriditas (talk) 14:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I think we should do a combined November/December issue ... or better yet, just deliver on random days whenever the spirit moves just to dispel any potential expectations that we intend to adhere to some kind of boring monthly habit. What do you think?  : ) -- M P er el  05:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll consider it. I've been toying with the idea of a "live" newsletter that never needs delivery. :) Viriditas (talk) 12:57, 11 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh sure, just make me obsolete!!! ;P -- M P er el  11:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I was actually hoping to make myself obsolete... Viriditas (talk) 11:37, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No way!!!! Don't do that!  You'll leave me no incentive to come back then.  -- M P er el  11:43, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Come back for the laughs? :) Viriditas (talk) 14:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh, more likely to move one to tears, methinks. -- M P er el 12:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * "Wikipedia: You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll kiss three hours goodbye." (Apologies to Hardware Wars) Viriditas (talk) 23:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Heheh! I'm quite certain there are better kissing alternatives, don't you think? -- M P er el  00:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The only "kissing" on Wikipedia is of the asinum variety. You only have to go so far as WP:ANI to see it occurring in its natural habitat. Viriditas (talk) 02:43, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Amaranthus brownii
The space you are seeing at higher resolutions is due to the use of the clear tag at the end of the section. I put it here because at some resolutions, the right-aligned image overlapped into the next section due to the lack of text at the bottom. I'm not sure if this is still a problem, nor am I aware of a better solution. Viriditas (talk) 02:35, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw your addition of the clear tag that fixed the image leaking into the next section. Short of simply expanding the section, your fix seems the best option.  I thought I would try moving the image up, but it wasn't an improvement. -- M P er el  02:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * As you may or may not know, I have more content to add, so perhaps expanding the section is possible. Have you looked at my subpage on the subject?  Expanding the lead is one priority.  If you see something important in the body of the article that should also be in the lead, please add it.  There's also a semi-automated peer review that you may not have seen.  Please take a look at it. Viriditas (talk) 03:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Stay gold


Viriditas (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

So sweet of you
Thank you. You brightened up my day Mperel. I hope you are doing really well and I'm glad to see you're still here, doing your thing. Have a great day!  T i a m u t talk 08:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Mahalo
Thank you for the smiley! Have a great day! Makana Chai (talk) 22:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Hawaii WikiProject Newsletter - Issue VIII - November 2008
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Sandbox
Hi. I cleared User talk:MPerel/Sandbox because it was showing up in multiple categories. Feel free to restore it when you need to use it... :) Viriditas (talk) 05:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you! : ) -- M P er el 06:39, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Link
See: Banach–Tarski paradox. Viriditas (talk) 11:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)