User talk:Mabalu/Archives/2017/April

Soul patch crop
Hi User:Mabalu, I thought the picture of Howie Mandel's soul patch on List of facial hairstyles page could be cropped a bit and a clearer resolution, can you please do it?👍--Theo Mandela (talk) 00:57, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Theo Mandela, here you go: File:HowieMandelM07 crop.jpg Mabalu (talk) 23:12, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Top job User:Mabalu, thanks 👍. I've added it to page, my last thing is maybe the beard picture of Rutherford Heyes could be cropped slightly and made more clear, and Frank Zappa's Zappa is half hidden.--Theo Mandela (talk) 22:20, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Clarence Winthrop Bowen
I improved the Clarence Winthrop Bowen article and removed the tag, may you please have a look at it and see if it's fine? --Elisa.rolle (talk) 11:25, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Elisa.rolle, nice work - it definitely looks better - notability is much better evidenced. I'd like to see a few more citations, and I think the image of his wife is very poor (unsurprisingly, as it is a photograph taken at a distance through glass of a photographic reproduction) - I'm sure there must be better quality images out there, as Roxana has been published in a few V&A books and there's a picture of the same photograph on the V&A Collections Online page for the veil. As it was taken in 1892, I'm sure it is out of copyright. Why not use this gorgeous portrait of Roxana from Commons instead? Mabalu (talk) 11:36, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Mabalu, thank you for finding the portrait of Roxana, I will use that one. I will do a research for a better photo of her in wedding dress, but I think the portrait is better anyway. I put all the references I had for the Article: the American Antiquarian Society, Find A Grave and Open Source Library. Most of the info are from the obituary that is stored at the Find A Grave's page and I'm pointing at it. Moreover I linked all the Wikipedia's relevant articles... more references I think are difficult, since the obituary is from 1935, difficult to find info, but I will try where I can (maybe the Yale Database has something). --Elisa.rolle (talk) 11:46, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I found a better quality for the wedding photo, I uploaded it on wikimedia and linked the page. I left the portrait on the wikipedia article.--Elisa.rolle (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Elisa.rolle, nice find! Can you update the file description to show where you found the image as it is no longer your "own work"? Mabalu (talk) 12:04, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * already did and updated also the licence. source can be the V&A Museum, but author is unknown.--Elisa.rolle (talk) 12:13, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Mabalu, another notoriety tips: Yale awarded its first History Ph.D. in 1882 to Bowen for a dissertation entitled “The Boundaries of Connecticut,” which was published in the same year.--Elisa.rolle (talk) 12:18, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Reason for not deleting the page 'Robert Burns Jr.'
I saw that you nominated the page Robert Burns Jr. for deletion because it seems to be copied from another source, and because it needed to be put into new words. I would like to contest that nomination because the information that you say was copied was from the website of the organization that I run, so I have complete copyright rights to all of that information. All of the sources have given me and North Carolina Modernist Houses, a nonprofit 501C3 documenting 20th-century Modernist architecture, complete rights to photos and information.

If this is not a good reason to contest the deletion, I will rewrite the pages into new words.

George M Smart (talk) 20:10, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * George M Smart - The problem is that we don't/didn't know that you are the person who wrote the original website. So many people come here and copy things from elsewhere into an article, and it is Wikipedia policy that such seeming copyright violation must be deleted on sight, as a precautionary principle. If you want to release the text and images from the website into the public domain, for anyone to use for any purpose, edit and rewrite as they wish, then you would need to send an email to the WP:OTRS to confirm ownership and that you are releasing into the public domain. Such permissions work better for images rather than for blocks of text, though. I hope that you understand why we have to be so super careful and vigilant about these things, and aren't put off from contributing. Mabalu (talk) 21:02, 28 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Malabu - Okay, thank you for your helping me understand. Is this page no longer nominated for deletion, or do I need to rewrite the page so that it is in new words? I can do that if it is still nominated for deletion. I hope that because of the reasons I gave you the article will be no longer nominated for deletion. I am sorry for not making it clear that I had the rights to that information and photo when I created the page. I understand if the page is still nominated for deletion, and I will rewrite the pages if it is. George M Smart (talk) 21:20, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No, George M Smart, the page is no longer nominated for deletion because the speedy delete was removed by another editor, although they did remove the text that seemed to be copyvio and but that you have confirmed wasn't actually copyvio per se. As it seemed to be copyvio, the page history is largely hidden too. However, if you are putting it back in the article, please do rewrite, as other editors who may not realise this may well come along later, and think they've spotted copyvio and delete/send warnings all over again. It's actually probably easier to rewrite/rephrase for that reason. Regarding the images - I didn't see them before they got deleted, but if you send a ticket/email to WP:OTRS about them to explain that you own them, and are in a position to make them available, them OTRS will be able to undelete them and maybe transfer to Wikimedia Commons. That's worth a go. One important point I would raise is that the articles really do require additional sourcing - it is problematic that you are using your work as a basis for the articles. So additional sources, such as magazine or newspaper articles and third-party sources - will help show that these architects are independently notable, and avoid them appearing to be based largely on single sources. These sources don't need to be available online, but they do need to be published sources (ie, not private papers) that a researcher can track down should they wish to do so. Mabalu (talk) 21:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I see that the page was proposed for deletion and following the seven-day grace period in which such articles can be improved or rescued, has now been deleted. I'm sorry to see that. That doesn't mean that the subject is decreed absolutely non-notable, it simply means that notability was not sufficently indicated and that required evidence of notability or improvements were not made in time to save its deletion. In future, you might wish to do your work via Articles for Creation so that it can be critiqued and overviewed before it goes straight into user space. Mabalu (talk) 10:24, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

University of Northeastern Philippines
I see that my work was marked for speedy deletion. I am aware of my mistake, and have acted accordingly. I have tried to rewrite the problematic section. Can you please take a look? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balthier54 (talk • contribs) 12:23, 10 April 2017 (UTC)