User talk:Mabdul/Archive 4

OSU College of Dentistry Seal & Logo
Dear Mabdul,

The OSU College of Dentistry Seal.png upload request was denied because you said it was a duplicate. Although I did accidentally send a duplicate of the OSU College of Dentistry Logo.jpg, please note that the OSU College of Dentistry Seal.png is a completely different image that will be used for the same purposes on the same article. Thank you.

OSUdentMRKTG — Preceding unsigned comment added by OSUDentMRKTG (talk • contribs) 21:33, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Gerber format revert
Dear Mabdul,

I am puzzled that you reverted my adding the Gerber format to the Image File formats article. It is a genuine vector format, and the de-facto standard in the electronics manufacturing industry. It was properly referenced. Why did you revert this?

I am even more puzzled that you reverted adding the See also to "Comparison of image file formats". This is very related. (Actually I think both articles would best be merged, and I intended to propose this when I have more time.

wkr

Karloman2


 * Well referenced? You gave only the link to http://www.ucamco.com . That is not well referenced. If I go to this URL I don't get the information that this is a image format. On the other side is this link also in the description of the "under-section" and thus not being ok with WP:MOS, WP:EL (and maybe per WP:LISTS - not so familiar with). The article about the "gerber format" doesn't really discuss what this format is or what the format is technically build up. So I can't understand - by reading only the Wikipedia article - that this file format is/should be a image / vector format... mabdul 20:44, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Dear Mabdul


 * Thanks for the quick response.


 * With the reference I meant: "RS-274X Extended Gerber Format " The link to Ucamco is not about to format, but to provide info about the developer of the format.


 * I am not thoroughly familiar with these WP guidelines you mention related to "under-section". Can you explain what the problem is? I can then adapt my edit accordingly.


 * The article about "Gerber format". Indeed, re-reading it I agree with your criticism it is not obvious from the article that it is a vector format. If I have some time, I may try to improve the article. However, there is a reference to the spec, and it is a vector format. Widely used. Therefore, IMHO, it deserves an entry in the article on image file formats.


 * wkr


 * Karloman2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karloman2 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 21 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Dear Mabdul
 * I edited the Gerber file article, and re-entered the entry in the Image file formats article, hopefully addressing your concerns, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karloman2 (talk • contribs) 07:06, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * OK. I looked at the article. Looks better now. I fixed some stylish... Can you provide more references? Maybe some other articles/news/books of other sites (3rd party...) otherwise this page wouldn't survive a afd (articles for deletion) nomination... I will help you (if you want) to get this article to a better... mabdul 08:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the style improvements. References. I have a 1996 book from Gerber, but I doubt it is still available, and it adds nothing to the latest format pdf. It does contain a list of publications on the Gerber format. I will maybe use it to review the history section. (Later, in the coming month I will have little time.) Websites. There are plentey of websites with introductions to Gerber. However, the www.artwork.com website contains a very good introduction and tutorial; all others I know of are much more limited and do not contribute anything that is not done equally good or better on artwork. I do not think we help anybody by adding links to the other sites than artwork. wkr. Karloman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karloman2 (talk • contribs) 08:35, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Jpeg 2000
I uploaded a much large version of the comparison photo between Jpeg XR and 2000 on both the JPEG 2000 and JPEG XR pages.

Skubasteve834 —Preceding undated comment added 22:17, 22 March 2011 (UTC).

Summary
In reply to your request for a summary I've emailed you a summary of the arguments as I see no reason to further feed a troll there. --Tothwolf (talk) 12:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for filling up with discussions the section that you opened in the talk page. --Enric Naval (talk) 14:57, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a pilot study
Welcome to Wikipedia. I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to a short survey. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates only '''5 minutes’’’. cooldenny (talk) 17:16, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Heads up on your draft.
I noticed a part of the article was seperated by a line bordered box with text. Maybe you should fix that. Rain bow  Dash  18:29, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I really don't know what you want to tell me. I know that I have two bordered boxes in the article. That boxes are for me for remembering thgat I want to change there something or add. This will be solved until I release the article. But atm the article is not really ready for releasing. (has some false facts nor is it well written or I need to expand it more {for example the Ericsson joint venture is not ready...}) mabdul 20:22, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Sources for Microsoft Mobile Explorer
If you need more sources for Microsoft Mobile Explorer, send me an email...(I forgot your email=P).Smallman12q (talk) 13:24, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey you found the address ^^ Send it to me, I will try to integrate them if I finished my actual open tabs... mabdul 12:24, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Smallman12q (talk) 00:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011
Hi Mabdul. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Anikkattilammakshethram, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. Catfish Jim &#38; the soapdish  10:21, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Want to help?
Hi. I just created an article and I was wondering if you wanted to help with it. I used the Page History Statistics tool to find you based on your past edits.

ImDisk
Hello, Mabdul. How do you do?

I apologize because I know I had to contact you much earlier but it somehow went off my mind. So, here it is: You added a primarysources tag to ImDisk article, right? Well, WP:TAGBOMB says when there is a tag that perform the function of two or three, use that tag instead of the other two or three. In this case, the article already had a Notability tag which does the job of. So, I deleted.

Again, I apologize for the delay in notifying you. Fleet Command (talk) 04:47, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, ok. Didn't know that. Thanks. mabdul 08:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


 * FYI, ImDisk was nominated for deletion. –89.204.137.229 (talk) 23:15, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

ibid
I marked it as ibid here because "[p169]", "[p170-2]", and "[p287]" are not complete references. Frietjes (talk) 15:19, 27 May 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, I will fix them later. mabdul 17:54, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Welcome to Files for upload
Hi there. I'm there ti welcome you to WP:FFU, it's great to have you aboard.A few quick things.
 * Files for upload is part of the Articles for Creation group, and tracks uploads performed through FFU by using the WPAFC banner. If you upload a file than please add {{subst:WPAFCF}} to the talk page of the file.
 * Secondly, it's worth pointing out that we are a first contact point for many new users. I see that you use the templates for explaining fair use and licensing in submissions. That's a good thing. Keep up the good work, and don't be afraid to personalize the messages if necessary.
 * Thirdly, there is a template to notify user about their request. (ffu talk) If you have questions about an upload you can use.
 * Finally, if you ever need anything or have any questions, feel free to ask me. I can be reached on my talk page or e-mail (on my userpage). Anything I can do to help, I will.

Thanks again, Armbrust  <sup style="color:#E3A857;">Talk to me  <sub style="color:#008000;">Contribs  11:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

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Dublin Philharmonic Orchestra photo
Hi Mabdul. Is everything now OK with the photo?/ Derek Gleeson (talk) 21:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I've responded at User_talk:Derek_Gleeson. Hope you don't mind mabdul=P.Smallman12q (talk) 23:31, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

FFU
Hi Mabdul, thanks for finishing off my FFU uploads while I was eating my dinner! I crossed off your response at MTV Undressed TV Series.jpg because if fair use applies no copyright needs to be proved. But we do need the fair use rationale. We can ask for it to be filled in, but I am not so happy with our templated message, as the typical new person will have no idea about fair use. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)


 * mmh, then maybe fill it in by yourself? You were right striking my comment. I didn't recognized it correctly... <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 19:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * How the templates happened was that we collected several responses that people had posted and made them into templates. It made it much quicker to respond, but they may not have been the best ones for our requestors. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:50, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Most of the time they even respond at all! That's the problem. We can tweak the template saying that we are willing to help them in filling out the template. <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 21:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You are right there is not much feedback after we ask for more information. On the speedy delete tags there is not a button to contest the delete.  This has got a lot of response, so perhaps we can place a button to press on the ffu hold templates, simpler than clicking edit and typing something meaningful in the template. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your help on citation
Thank you for answering my citation questions. Your knowledge into this matter is very appreciated. KarlRink (talk) 01:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Use a wikipedia image from German site on the English site
Thanks for your help on my talk page. What if the image isnt copyright for example a photo how would i use that image on another wikipedia site?

Thanks


 * Don't forget to sign your comments!
 * depends, mostly the images are free (open source license) and are already at comments. then you can use [[File:filename.jpg]]
 * <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 19:40, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Vchslogo.png


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Nutrition guides
Hello, this is the guy developing the List of nutrition guides page. I like Germany, and I like the 5 A Day program, but the 5 A Day program is more of an individual campaign as part of a larger food guide, rather than a complete food guide itself. I found that the German government actually uses a food pyramid developed by state-funded Aid Infodienst, which I added to the list. I also included a food circle by the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Ernährung in the non-governmental guides, and added Five A Day to the See Also section.

But regarding images, another editor is interpreting WP:NFLISTS as an outright ban on non-free images in lists, rather than a guide on their use, so I've created a discussion on the talk page. We may compromise on only showing stylistically unique food guides, rather than a dozen pyramids, for example.

As for getting an account, I had one, but I was getting too "into" Wikipedia, developing a positive reputation, gaining barnstars, getting social with other users, gaining permissions, etc. I wanted to be able to start fresh instead of having years of history. So now I'm anonymous.

PS: Would you be willing create nutrition guide, nutrition guides, dietary guide, dietary guides, food guide and food guides and redirect them to the list? 76.105.176.44 (talk) 05:23, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Done.Smallman12q (talk) 23:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Early WWW
Mabdul, are you gonna be editing early WWW articles anytime soon...I've seen a lot of file shuffling lately...but few related edits=( . Perhaps something on early WWW bookmarking?Smallman12q (talk) 23:45, 11 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Mmh, I hope so. I'm a bit busy although creating many edits atm. I will finish the MME article this or next week. I'm getting frustrated (again) by helping with AFC/Help channel. I want to focus working now more (again) on the substantial article-progress. <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 19:13, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

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thank you
thanks for the earlier help and tagging sorry if i was a hassele.87.113.180.32 (talk) 19:57, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for Delta3D reformat and syntax fixes too... Jambay (talk) 01:42, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

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Template:R from slogan
Hello. Why did you nominate Template:R from slogan for speedy deletion? It didn't work perfectly because the meta-template it was transcluding has been changed and I forgot to update this one. I've now updated. Please discuss something like this on my talk page before assuming it was a test edit. Clearly, I'm an editor who is beyond the stage of test edits.  McLerristarr &#124;  Mclay1  04:54, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks a lot for your help with BaseX_(database).
 * I, shamefully a little late, found out, that article names are case sensitive, do you think it would be possible to rename the article once more to BaseX without the (database)
 * thanks for you support!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.2.53.81 (talk) 11:50, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

--Michael-se (talk) 11:34, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again! :-) --Michael-se (talk) 11:53, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't see updated Call2Recycle logo
Hello Mabdul,

I wanted to thank you for approving my request to update the Call2Recycle logo and uploading it. However, I just checked the wiki for Call2Recycle and it is still showing the TM logo and not the registered one. Do you know how long it takes for the article to update? Thanks for all your help!

Kind regards, KJahn (talk) 15:37, 30 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Click on the image and then go back to the article. You just have to reload the image! <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 15:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

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Talkback
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Buckswood International School - Tbilisi
Dear Mabdul,

You have recently reviewed and denied the submission of the article on Buckswood International School - Tbilisi due to the reason that submission is unsourced or contains only unreliable sources. As I am new to Wikipedia community can you please assist me in improving the article so that it meets Wikipedia criteria. Information provided in the article is genuine. It is hard to provide any other evidences and/or references as this School is a Georgian School and therefore all the information and data about the school is in Georgian language. We have provided two links: one is our school link another is the link of our partner school - Buckswood School that has an active article on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckswood_School

We would also like to have the similar article explaining the life of Buckswood School in Tbilisi. What is that we can do? Can you please assist. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Levanuna (talk • contribs) 04:20, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * The references don't have to be in English, but since the article already exists (I didn't recognized, would be another reason to decline) you can safely merge your content from your submission to the actual article. The problem is with your submission AND the actual article, that every fact has to be verifiable by the reader and without references this is not possible. For your second article I don't see any chance since this doesn't belong into an encyclopedia. Maybe the official page is useful for such a purpose. <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 13:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Reaper Eternal (talk) 13:15, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Matt Blashaw Article
From user name:lynco123

Hi Mabdul,

I have been writing an article for Matt Blashaw and it was rejected due to unreliable sources. The two websites that I sourced are nationally recognized websites with millions of viewers. In fact, The website was used to make an article for Amy Matthews and it was accepted. I don't understand why these sources are being rejected? Please help. Thank you.

-lynco123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lynco123 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Only because there is an article about Amy Matthews, doesn't mean that this article is good. See the many problem and maintainboxes at the page: The article (and your draft) has serious problems. Please address notability by adding some independent, third party references and we can accept your draft. <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 19:30, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject Abandoned Drafts has been created
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Just a question
How is the progress with the uploading of the Norwegian road signs? Sir Armbrust <sup style="color:#E3A857;">Talk to me  <sub style="color:#008000;">Contribs  19:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Will upload the rest tonight. (sry for the delay, I'm writing my exams at the moment). <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 00:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. I just wanted to know how the progress is going. Sir Armbrust  <sup style="color:#E3A857;">Talk to me  <sub style="color:#008000;">Contribs  07:14, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Question regarding references
Dear Mabdul,

Please can you be more specific regarding which area needs better references? I have removed the information about the Daily Telegraph award as you rightly pointed out that the article was written by FINE+RARE. However, I have since added a new independent reference from Decanter to the comment about the company being up for sale. What else am I missing? This is my first article on Wikipedia so I need a little more help.

Best wishes, Alex

AlexHowardWine (talk) 10:58, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Sry for the late response. You were talking about this draft: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/FINE+RARE. I tagged the article with some for statements/claims/facts I want to have some references. At the moment, I don't see why this company is notable and it is a bit written like an advertisement. (e.g. Offices normally don't interest a reader of an encyclopedia) Maybe that helps. If you need more information, ask me again ;) <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 14:46, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

MEdia violence research
Thanx for taking a look at the media violence research page. I'm still seeing the July 16 edit when I go back through. I've cleared the cache on this computer and it still happens. When you go back to the page, do you see your own "external links" tag, or does it go back to the previous edit (be sure to clear out your own cache before you try).

Thanx — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.188.10.153 (talk) 15:26, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Sry, but I really don't understand. If you do not see the actual version, you have to clear your cache by pressing [F5] or use the secure server. <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 14:37, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Please delete photo
Dear Mabdul,

Please delete the photo (File:Sebra Yen 2009 4CC 2.jpg). Thank you! Miloloverx3
 * Okay, although I'm not an admin, this issue was already solved by User:Fastily. <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 12:06, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the notice ;) <b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 18:58, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/ESys.net
Those confence papers looks like reasonable sources. Could you expand on the decission?©Geni 14:33, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay. Let us start. I reviewed this revision since all changes after that were (of course) later happened. (see the [[WP:HISTORY|history for more explanations).

<b style="font-family:Courier New; display:inline; border:#009 1px dashed; padding:1px 6px 2px 7px; white-space:nowrap; color:#000000; font-size:smaller;">mabdul</b> 20:32, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
 * the later added references #1 is used, but this is not in the citation. if it is, please add a page and/or a direct quote to the reference, since I don't find Esys.net in the full document (and other searchterms!).
 * I just added that reference to refer to the original SystemC (which doesn't contain any specs about ESys.net) and to backup the statement that it's widely used, as the document does prove it to be an ANSI standard. I do see your case of the .net port not being part of it and have removed that reference and the "well-established" statement. Gnobb (talk) 08:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The two references you had already in the revision I was reviewing, are both primary sources (although published in magazines, written by directly involved people) and thus this project is not showing its notability for me as reviewer.
 * Is the ".NET framework - a solution for the next generation tools for system-level modeling and simulation"-article somewhere online? Since I'm a student, I have widely access over my university to such articles. (I got also a copy of the ACM one).
 * I got my copy from, but a Google Scholar search comes up with different places as well, some of which are direct links to the PDF and should be available publicly (e.g. ) Gnobb (talk) 08:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see your case. I assumed that the usual reviewing process of scientific conferences and/or journals makes primary sources qualify as reliable ones. Does that book that I added as "further reading" add to the notability? Albeit I do see that the author of that book was involved in the project as well. Would scientific papers that reference this project that are just places in "further reading" as well add to the notability? Gnobb (talk) 08:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I have found some papers that reference the ESys.net framework (or rather the publications about it) (Chopard, B. et al (2006): "A Conservative Approach to SystemC Parallelization". Monteiro, M. et al (2008): "GUI GENERATION BASED ON LANGUAGE EXTENSIONS - A model to generate GUI, based on Source Code with Custom Attributes"). Still, while they mention it and emphasize some attribute they consider especially noteworthy, I do not think that they qualify for anything but backing up ESys.net's notability (i.e. I'm having difficulties coming up with something that justifies quoting these sources that is related to the project itself and not covered by the primary sources). How would you advise to proceed? Gnobb (talk) 08:59, 28 July 2011 (UTC)