User talk:MacGyverMagic/Archive/January 2009

Spam in User:Timrieger
Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on User:Timrieger, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because User:Timrieger is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting User:Timrieger, please affix the template to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that '''this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click here''' CSDWarnBot (talk) 06:20, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Vihang
Hoi Mac, en gelukkig nieuwjaar,

Will you have a look at Vihang? It is a carbon copy of Vihang Naik (or Vihang A. Naik, I forgot which), which has been deleted once or twice already. I looked through WP:AFD but couldn't find what to do with an article which was previously deleted. You have both knowledge and power; you'll know what to do. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 06:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, the article doesn't look so bad--because I edited the stuffing out of it (in accordance with MLA guidelines, haha) a couple of times before it got deleted. At that time, there were also articles on one or two individual (non-notable) titles by the author, which got deleted as well, I think. Drmies (talk) 06:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi Mac, I put in a period; the original article didn't have one after his middle initial. Here's the Afd: Articles_for_deletion/Vihang_A_Naik, and here and here are notes I left for administrators. I recognize some of my own phrases in the 'new' article' (he still doesn't realize that the phrase "what might be termed an uncomplicated perception of poetry" means it's naive poetry), but I don't have access to the one that was deleted (do I?). Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Drmies (talk) 20:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Alhazen
In my opinion, I believe that the Alhazen article should be ready for featured article status. However, it seems there is a debate currently going on in the talk page. I think we should only nominate this article once the debate has been resolved. By the way, out of curiosity, what BBC article were you referring to? Regards, Jagged 85 (talk) 12:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Do I know the first student film selected before Peege
To quote the Reverend Lovejoy, "short answer 'yes' with an 'if', long answer 'no' with a 'but'".

I know that Peege is alleged to be the second student film selected to the NFR. I also know that the previous year, student film A Time Out of War was selected. Unfortunately, I can't find anyone coming right out and saying that ATOOW was the first, and it wasn't for a lack of looking. It was also the first to win an Oscar when it was released in '54, and everyone seems too busy repeating that fact to mention any NFR precedent. It's one of those situations where, with no explicit evidence to the contrary, I just assumed good faith on the part of the press release authors, especially since it wasn't the most bombastic brag I'd ever heard.

If there's a problem I can try and come up with something else. I tried last night before I submitted the current hook, but it was getting late, and the 200-character limit was proving too constricting. --DeLarge (talk) 12:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Update: Darn it. You got me all paranoid and I started digging deeper; I discovered Killer of Sheep is a student film and was selected in 1990. Pffft, that'll teach me to be so trusting. I'll strike out the hook at T:TDYK and see if I can cobble something else together. --DeLarge (talk) 12:53, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Kapap Speedy
Thank you, I was trying to find something more applicable, but have been unable. It seems to me there is an unregistered contributor who will not allow anything but references in some way attached to Avi Nardia. Perhaps I am wrong, but this smacks of promotionalism. Is there another flag which can be used? If I may ask, to which reference are you referring in regard to the 'one that checks out'? I would like to look at it in order to ensure my own objectivity. Thank you again for your help. --KravTeacher (talk) 14:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Kapap
Hello,

Thank you for taking time to acknowledge my question.

Perhaps the article itself is not promotional. Most of the sources, however, are somehow linked directly to Mr. Nardia. He has written and or co-written most of the articles being cited. It would seem a conflict of interest, especially since someone near his current base of operation continues to delete any sources which do not propagate his current revival of the system. I have researched, firsthand, some of the references he uses for business purposes since his once mentor has been shown a fraud. I wanted to know if he was what he claims to have been. The fact is, he reportedly never completed YAMAM training and was only a part time contract instructor who was dismissed because they were not satisfied with his services. there is more, but I have been asked to not publish it. That aside, it simply shows a possible lack of integrity; which makes his inclusion in the Wiki-article, beyond mention of his revival of a previously obsolete term, less than educational/informational. I would then think anything else really is promotional. When looking at the history of the changes made on this article, you will see I have not deleted his link to the Kapap Academy, this is definitely promotional. I simply placed additional references, and an unregistered user continues to remove those reputable 3rd party links. Mr. Katz is known for his educational seminars about Israeli Martial arts all over North America. He has been to over 100 colleges and universities in the last 3 years alone. I believe this substantiates his knowledge of the subject.

If I may, Black Belt magazine has lost much respect in the Martial Arts community due to it's obvious bias toward anyone who pays for advertising. Some organizations who have been exposed as fraudulent due to their false claims (of IDF Special Forces involvement and such), are still well written about in Black Belt, it seems no coincidence to find they also advertise with full color, half to full page ads.

I mean no disrespect to Mr. Nardia's attempts to revive an Israeli system which is no longer used anywhere in any Israeli agency, but the articles which he writes state differently. This in another point which forces me to feel some of the sources are promotional in nature. I believe if they were to be deleted, they would be back in place in less than 24 hours by the same unregistered contributor who keeps deleting any source/reference/link which is not directly tied to Mr. Nardia.

Thank you again for your time. As I am sure you are aware, I am still quite new to Wiki and am trying to learn. --KravTeacher (talk) 18:36, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Expansion of Rotsunda.
I have done a big expansion of Rotsunda, now moved to Rotebro. The Rolling Camel (talk) 12:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Articles for deletion/List of Jeff Dunham puppets
Hello MGM, apologies that this is a bit late. However, I noticed your closure at this AfD and would like to point you to Deletion guidelines for administrators, point 3: "As a general rule, don't close discussions or delete pages whose discussions you've participated in. Let someone else do it." While I agree with your closure and certainly wouldn't take it to DRV or anything, I just thought you may like to keep this in mind in the future. Thanks. :) Glass  Cobra  16:23, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK stability constants of complexes
I've moved the reference two sentences down. I hope that is what was needed. Regarding references at the end of each paragraph, I am following WP:SCG which states that references are not required for material that can be considered to be "common knowledge". The unreferenced parts of this article are covered in detail in the general references 2 and 3 and can also be found in many chemistry text-books at first-year University level. Petergans (talk) 21:13, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

We were all wrong
RE: Articles for deletion/Yara-ma-ya-hoo and Articles for deletion/Yara-ma-yha-who my AfD. travb (talk) 08:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Stan Frazier DYK submission
Thanks for checking the hook. I have added to the article and replied at T:TDYK in the January 6 section. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:17, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Karl Gustaf Hjalmar Armfeldt
→ I have already explained this to DGG. It seemed that we all saw a copyvio at Articles for deletion/Johan Victor Aarne, but maybe there's more to this? Anyways, you guys may know more about this, whereas I have been put on the spot on this AFD. I knew I saw a copyvio, otherwise, I wouldn't have !voted to G12 it (and I'm sure neither would DGG !vote for deletion, either). MuZemike ( talk ) 08:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Hoegaarden
The original text that Betty put in the article (which is an article about a brewery, not about a beer) was titled "Dietary Information". It included information on the glue which was used to attach the label to the bottle. I fail to see how that is "Dietary Information". Secondly, I asked Betty (in my edit summary) if she had a reason for inserting this. She ignored it and kept reverting. Finally, after reverting it three times she wrote something on the talk page. As I said on the admin noticeboard, I really see this as a case of possible spam. Her text includes a link to an advertising-supported website and she has placed that text on many, many beer articles: (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Betty+Logan&namespace=&year=2008&month=12). And finally, perhaps in ignorance (I am not a vegetarian), I always thought that beer was a vegetable product (water, yeast, hops and grain). Mikebe (talk) 11:35, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I find her actions extremely suspicious. She claims to be a new user, for example, however, by late December, she seems to have already mastered at least one of the more obscure requests: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&diff=prev&oldid=259952086
 * From her posts on the admin noticeboard as well as elsewhere, she seems to have a rather loose definition of fact. She also displays a pattern of doing something wrong, then denying it or explaining it away afterwards. Adding all this up together, I see someone of highly questionable motivation.
 * Thanks for the explanation of vegan vs. vegetarian, however, my reasoning still stands: why call glue "Dietary Information"? Mikebe (talk) 12:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


 * When you combine the number of articles she has placed the link on, the "bad choice of words" (to use your expression), her edit warring, her casual approach to facts, her denial of responsibilty - what do you get? An editor who is at worst a spammer and at best very disruptive. Why isn't something being done about her either way? Mikebe (talk) 13:56, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Street Sounds (Record Label) again
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Street_Sounds_(record_label)_(2nd_nomination)

Subject is notable, but the article is hopeless.
 * The contemporary name for the label was generally StreetSounds (one word)
 * There is little of relevance on the page aside from the ridiculously long discography
 * What is on the page is mainly blatant advertising, marketing and promotion, and links to more promotional material
 * Rather than rewrite the article, I have created another [here]

Your thoughts would be appreciated. Centrepull (talk) 13:18, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Talkback!
Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 14:27, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Another new one there for you! Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 19:44, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

More on StreetSounds
Thanks for your helpful comments. I must defend Discogs here. It has a good reputation amongst music collectors - please link me to reasonable discussions that claim othewise. They are somewhat in the position of WKP itself, and finding authoritative on/offline references for such a 'pop-culture' subject that peaked well before the coming of the WWW is always going to be difficult. Furthermore, Discogs is certainly more accurate on this subject than say, 'The Daily Mail' newspaper, which is generally accepted on WKP, and used as a reference for Tigriss (related example), even though they don't know what they are talking about. Finally, the particular page linked to is well-visited and accurate (I have comparison materials), and not being a wiki, it is unlikely to change for the worse. I would say discogs are above the bar of reputation here. I do wish I could add even better references, but even the contemporary reports in the press were mainly very poor and inaccurate, and I got not a single relevant hit from searching the | British Library website, which supposedly has a full UK magazine and newspaper archive online.

YouTube link: I've searched WKP discussion pages, and can't find anything definitive on the inclusion of YouTube links. My understanding (on external research) is that if there were to be copyright issues, those would be for YouTube, not WKP, so long as the WKP link is not a hot-link. Nor is YT a download site. If you know differently, or can link me to a WKP discussion of these linking issues, I'm interested. Centrepull (talk) 14:40, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Max, 13
I did not get the history, but I just copied the whole thing to User:MichaelQSchmidt/sandbox Max,13... just in case.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:22, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

List of improvisational theatre companies
Hi! I was the only one who worked on the page, the anon who contributed was me at work, not paying attention that I wasn't logged in. I was confused about going live and went to the New Contributors Help page and was advised to copy and paste. Thanks, though! SMSpivey (talk) 17:54, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Will do! Thanks for giving me a heads up, anyway. They are always helpful.SMSpivey (talk) 22:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Adeshina Olusanya
Hey MGM,

How do you know for sure that the subject was in fact duped, I mean, that he paid for some honor? It's really easy to 'make' that award: here's yours. I'm not being facetious--I'd like to know, since writing is my business. Thanks, and congratulations on your outstanding achievement in poetry, Drmies (talk) 00:10, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, the fact you can create the award without actually earning it is a dead clear giveaway it's not one that should be covered here, but I think I also linked to a some pages in that AFD debate. I frequent a blog by people from the SFWA (and several others) and I also occasionally visit AbsoluteWrite. Both are dedicated to collecting complaints and outing scams and both have extensive documentation about poetry.com meaning that his work published by the International Library of Poetry is of no consequence because of its connection to poetry.com even though he was likely led to believe it was a reliable organization. He's duped in the sense that he's unlikely to have worked with them had he known the background. (The same is true for PublishAmerica, but that's a whole different ball game). - Mgm|(talk) 12:41, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Until it was suggested in the AfD, it hadn't even occurred to me that he may have been duped--especially since the award link gave some errors, I assumed that it was an intentional case of link fraud. I still think it's more likley to be a fabricated link (like the ones I included in the nomination) rather than one that was sent to him as a reward for paying money or entering into a prize given that he's not listed on the page. But it is a possibility, and hence I removed some of the stonger language that didn't AGF. By the way, I have achieved some small notoriety for this entry:
 * Inclusion or deletion?
 * labels appear twee.
 * Yet! On some simple matters
 * I think we can agree
 * Bongo matic  06:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Making you aware...
That I have opened an ArbCom Request for Clarification regarding your undoing of a BLP Deletion. . I urge you to redelete it. The community normally rules, I'm the first to admit it, but our Biography of Living People policy expressly forbids this kind of redirect. SirFozzie (talk) 00:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I think the arbcom clarification request is premature. I suspect it was at least partly intended to bring more scrutiny to the DRV. You (MGM) have the opportunity, now, to revisit your decision. I can't believe that you seriously restored the redirect because you honestly believed the word was intended to have a non-English pronunciation. Can you re-read the DRV and think about whether Wikipedia should have anything in mainspace that is intended to describe a living person as an idiot? Avruch  T 01:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was premature. Asking me to reconsider based on evidence like the information I have now been presented with would probably have been more effective. After digging through the resulting discussions and doing a Google search with terms as shown by an arbitrator, I've come to the conclusion that the misspelling is not a common one and may in fact have been spread for the disparaging purpose mention. I'll redelete. I still think my comment regarding the likely prononciation is sound, though.- Mgm|(talk) 12:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

You requested I fix a reference URL
I hope I did this right...Apologies in advance if I didn't. I fixed the requested URL on the Tammara Billik page. If this is still not done in the proper wiki syntax, please let me know and do not correct it for me...I would much prefer to try again and learn the correct way. Thank you for your time and for reading it. … ‘ “ ’ ” ° ″ ′ ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ± − × ÷ ← → · § Ann Couture (talk) 10:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Cambodian Districts
Thanks very much for the tip. I know I could probably just whip off the notability tags and run away - but I have some kind of crazy masochistic streak :) To prevent future drive-by notability tagging, I'm slowly working through the districts adding sourced info. THEN, and only then, I remove the stupid tag and boy does that feel good! I must enjoy doing things the hard way - for instance, Koh Kong (city) was delete/merged to Koh Kong Province by an admin in 2007 for being on special:shortpages for too long. Then yesterday it was on the front page getting zillions of hits - damn that felt good too :) Cheers, Paxse (talk) 13:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Fred Ajudua
I saw your comment in the AfD discussion on Fred Ajudua asking if it violated BLP. I am really uncertain. I have read the policy carefully, twice, and think that technically the article conforms. The sources seem high quality and I think there can be little doubt that the article is factual. There are many other sources, all of which confirm the content. On the other hand, the article does present a very negative picture of a living person, so perhaps violates the underlying BLP principle. I am very uncomfortable about the article - the subject disturbs me. In a case like this, when the subject seems notable but all the sources are negative, what is the right thing to do? Aymatth2 (talk) 15:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * People who are notable for corrupt dealings are unlikely to have flattering articles. Making sure the entry is encyclopedic and accurate seems to me to be the best approach. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Pooktre
Hi this is blackash, You may be interested to know that pooktre and Arborsculpture have been merged into a page call Tree Shaping, which I think is a good move. There is a discussion on the talk page about the over all name.

I wanted your advice, We had started an informal mediation. As there is now active discussions on the Tree Shaping talk page about the issues we had with the name of Arborsculpture for a the whole art form. Does the mediation thing still need to be there? Or should it be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackash (talk • contribs) 08:40, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm still wondering what should be done about the informal mediation. Do you have any recommendations?

On my talk page you said about 'Pooktre is the name a private company gave to a pre-existing artform.' Pooktre is a name that is for a branching of a pre-existing artform of a couple of people. These peolpe never told or wrote how they achieved their shaping of trees. There has been multiple people around the world who started shaping trees at about the same time, each individual gave a name for their techniques of shaping trees not being aware of others who were doing the same thing. Blackash (talk) 22:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes I agree there needs to be a neutral name for the overall artform. But as this artform is so small and there is a number of different methods for shaping trees, it would seem appropriate to having different names for the different methods. Blackash (talk) 23:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Xangati AfD
Left comment, article looks better now. Also, the original article had external links to like half a dozen unrelated networking RFCs, that's what I meant. Not WP:RFC, [this] kind of RFC :) Fowartehlluz (talk) 19:07, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

List of African golfers
I don't have time to do it. michfan2123 (talk) 00:22, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Anthony Lozano
The nominations was withdrawn, I will work on the article to better establish his notability. Thanks, --J.Mundo (talk) 15:00, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello,. You can [ remove this notice] at any time by removing the Talkback or Tb template.

Articles for deletion/Tamding Tsering
It seems that soccer is the flavor of the day. Interesting. --J.Mundo (talk) 20:42, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

making an article about a lulu book
Just spotted your comment about it. Can you think of any examples of ones that have articles? Speaking as someone that's just about to publish with them, no I'm defo not biased personally but can't think of many that could have an article on wiki, unless they'd been in lots of other sources too? :/ ? Mine won't deserve an article that's for sure lol, I doubt even my mum would want to buy it. But I have bought books from there and they are surprisingly well presented, and some of them really interesting. Sticky Parkin 03:12, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * All of those authors ended up being published by more established publishing houses, which establishes their notability. I brought the book "living demonolatry" and I've read something else from there, which was about the Illuminati. :)  They look really good.  It did actually happen to someone I know, that he published through lulu, and then the book ended up being taken up by Capall Bann. Sticky Parkin 16:26, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ida Ljungqvist
Done. Thanks for the suggestion. Although, the other page has already been deleted. I guess, as an admin, you could recreate it... I'd like to mention though, I'm not the one who put the speedy tag on it. Dismas |(talk) 08:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, I made the edit... I started it out "null edit..."  I'll give it another shot. Dismas |(talk) 09:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Done... again. I really don't know where the first one went...  Dismas |(talk) 09:24, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Bosana
I found another one, same author but this one is from 2007. It says: "The island of Sardinia is covered with olive trees primarily of the variety 'Bosana'". Lampman (talk) 13:11, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Chennai Book Fair
So what? There are so many references about each edition of the Chennai Book Fair. So, it is evident that the article is not a hoax. And unless the article is a hoax, it is very much evident that Chennai Book Fair is an event conducted in Chennai. I don't have a book or news article which carries the exact wording, but I guess the press coverage of the event is enough evidence.- Ravichandar My coffee shop 13:34, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * No need to. You have a reference here: . Please check out the "References" section of the article. I've specified the book there. I thought that references are not needed while speaking of the main subject of the article. After all, the different refs speak of the different editions of the book fair. Then, why do we need to establish that it is an "event". Anyway, I guess this would do- Ravichandar My coffee shop 13:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)


 * "...that the Chennai Book Fair is an annual event in Chennai which takes place during the New Year-Pongal season". I guess this is okay- Ravichandar My coffee shop 14:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Charactacter count
I don't know the rules on character count, but many actually count the footnote characters within the main body. Thus adding a citation would add 4 or 5 characters even though it really adds a lot more than that each time you say precisely where a fact came from. I don't see any other very good WP:RSs right now. However, I could simply reword things to add 19 characters. I will also revisit the sources to make sure I did not ignore any notable fact.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Charles Scott Haley
Thanks for reviewing Haley's DYK nom. I've replied with an excerpt from Ref#1. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Sven Inge
The hook is based on public records. I've added a note about that with specific details as regards to the registration of the names, along a note by one of his former collegues. --Hapsala (talk) 18:06, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Futaba Channel
Hi there. You were a participant in the AfD discussion for Futaba Channel, which I closed as "delete." I have decided to relist the article at AfD; the discussion is here. Your further input is welcome. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  18:15, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: The Visitors (opera)
(I like to keep all discussions on the page where they started). Voceditenore (talk) 14:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

200 characters
200 characters means as everyone sees it, not as it appears on the edit page. See Template talk:Did you know under "Length": "... select the text from the article page (or, in the case of "Did you know" nominations, this Talk page) – not the edit page containing Wikitext – then copy and paste it ... ". Art LaPella (talk) 15:03, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

AfD nom
I wasn't sure, since physics/philosophy aren't my subjects, so I thought I'd leave it up to the people who commented. Tim Vickers (talk) 01:06, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Good point. Thanks! Tim Vickers (talk) 01:11, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Daybreak Pacific
Hi MacGyverMagic, I replied on the AfD page. XLerate (talk) 01:36, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Soggy biscuit
Thanks for the note; I left a comment at the DRV page. Cheers, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  14:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

La Question
Hello,

I have made some progress in providing inline citations for La Question. I plan to source citations directly from the book itself in the next days, as well as maybe information and comments from Raphaelle Branche's book and from Escadrons de la Mort, l'École française, but I though that having item that can be checked directly from the web would be convenient. Cheers! Rama (talk) 22:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

The DYK template
Well, you seem to be right about that - I do recall botching it last time (though I don't recall how). Seems like a strange choice for the template - but there it is. Thanks for the headsup, anyhow. Wily D 22:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Did You Know problem
Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible. Art LaPella (talk) 00:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The redlink was the word "torture" in two of the versions. But it's blue now. Art LaPella (talk) 18:56, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Danny Pacheco
Hello. I just closed Articles for deletion/Danny Pacheco and deleted the article per a clear consensus. According to your request, though, I userified the last non-tagged version to User:MacGyverMagic/WIP/Danny Pacheco and inserted a noindex. Cheers! — Travis talk  00:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of unpowered aircraft
I think your recent response about histories referred to my response, so you may wish to move it further down the page. My apologies if I have misunderstood. JMcC (talk) 11:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok My mistake. I will heed your advice. JMcC (talk) 11:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Sigh. The histories of the article in the unpowered aircraft are actually that of the glider article, Rlandmann botched the move when he did the content fork to form the article from glider. That's why it appears to go back to 2002 or whatever, but if you look at the glider article history It was allegedly created last December (essentially, from a redirect), but in reality glider is the older article. It was probably an accident, but Rlandmann isn't that keen on people knowing what precisely they did, and I doubt he'll want to fix it.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 14:08, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought MacGyverMagic was talking about the inofrmation about the early history of unpowered aircraft when I posted this. I believe he was referring to the history of the edits to the whole article. No conspiracy involved. JMcC (talk) 12:22, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * No, there's nothing secret or organised going on exactly, it's mostly that it is abstruse and fiddly to change.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 13:39, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Danny Pacheco
Hi there, There is some confusion here. The Dani Pacheco article that was deleted was about the Liverpool Footballer, that this current Danny Pacheco article is now about, with the Dani Pacheco article redirecting to it. Dani Pacecho (footballer) was deleted because he failed WP:ATHLETE as he hasn't played in the Premier League yet. I believe that the Danny Pacheco that this article was about this time was a musician of some sort. I think the article was recreated about the footballer to stop the musician article being created in its place again. However, he (the footballer) is still not notable enough for his own article. I didn't realise this till after I tagged it. At the very least, it's the wrong way round as it stands, because the footballer's name is Dani, not Danny. Not sure of the best way to take this forward! --Ged UK (talk) 12:23, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Unhexseptium
Hi there, I was puzzled by your comment in this AfD. I looked at this webpage you linked to, but this source only goes up to element 118, while the "elements" in the articles up for deletion are in the mass range 167-173 (although they have similar names to some of the real elements). Which source from the IUPAC discusses these heavier elements? Tim Vickers (talk) 17:32, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Did you really mean to underline rather than strike your first !vote here? Yilloslime (t) 00:12, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

living word fellowship afd
hey there. i was wondering if we could talk about your recent snowball closure of this afd. i realise that many people were voting keep, but it looks like they were under the impression that notability was supported by multiple independent, reliable sources (required by wp:n and wp:v). a glance at the reference list did give this impression as at the time of the afd the article had six references listed. however, two of these were to the church's own website (not independent nor satisfying wp:rs). one was to another website not satisfying wp:rs. two were identical references (to the appendix of the same book, one referencing pages 360-362 and one referencing pages 360-361), and the final reference was to a people magizine article that mentioned the church in a couple of sentences. now i understand that ultimately consensus is what matters, but the reference list was really quite deceptive and i was going to comment on this in the afd before it was snowball closed. do you think the afd should be reopened for further discussion or would it be better for me to post at drv? thanks, Jessi1989 (talk) 07:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Question:
Have we ever crossed paths in the real world?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Me? Europe?? If only I could afford such a trip! But I noticed on of yourpostings and thought it possible. Keep up the good works!  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It was your comment at this AfD. I have crossed paths with a couple actors on that list too. Nothing major... but it got me to thinking that when I go into the local grocery store, I have no idea if the guy in front of me is a reknowned wiki editor or not. So... I thought to ask.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:23, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * (ROFL) Heck... I DO know some notables personally, and I still edit wiki. Not to worry. Keep smiling.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/It's Showtime (film)
Now that I have expanded and fixed the Fred Weintraub article, how might the It's Showtime (film) article be best merged? Maybe a blurb about his documentaries that includes it? Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it best fits as a separate prose paragraph in the "Films and television" section and perhaps give it a bit of expansion. - Mgm|(talk) 01:10, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Check the Weintraub article. Meets your approval?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * As easy said as done. Check it. (grin)  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:37, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ain't trolling for Barnstars, but I like them as the "pat on the back" they are. As for the Phillipines, I have no connection with that country... but have great respect for the prople and their work ethic. As for saving articles... if I can, I do. If I can't, I at least try. If I fail., I move on and do it all again.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:02, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the "pat on the back" :)  I'll make referencing stray articles one of the things on my "to do" list.  Best,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Sydney Howard Vines
Now expanded and sourced.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Stenella
Sourced. Fun stuff. I now know more about dolphins than I ever wanted to know.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 04:59, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Article
I added 3 sentences to it. I don't know what prose is. I messed up the refs and I don't know how to fix it. Schuym1 (talk) 15:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Christian Order
Hi,

You asked for some indication of influence on church politics for Christian Order. On the specific boycott of CAFOD the left wing paper "Positive Nation" qoutes them here.

As to influence (or distaste) within the English church, they have been condemned as "scurilous" and destructive by Bishop McMahon of Northampton, the "most influential of the conservative Catholic journals in the United Kingdom" and a bad example for the Catholic Herald to follow.

They do seem to be the bad boys of the trad world (and by extension rather unlovable to people who are generall against their worldview any way, especially if you disagree with them on evolution or sexuality for example) but that does not make the article worthy of deletion.

Thanks for your time on this.

JASpencer (talk) 17:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Darwin's Eating Habits
Hi there mgm,

I'm JumpingJack from QI. Back in November you sent me a PM on qi.com, which I didn't see because I've been so busy that I haven't had time to go on the forums.

This morning I sent you a PM back but it bounced, as I guess you don't post on QI anymore.

Anyway, I'm rather pleased with myself for tracking you down and here's the key to the list of sources that you asked for:

s: EBR Encyclopaedia Britannica (15th Edition, 1998)

s: OCF The Oxford Companion to Food by Alan Davidson (OUP, 1999)

s: LLD The Life and Letters of Charles Darwin by Francis Darwin (Appleton, New York, 1905)

s: FFF Fossils, Finches and Fuegians: Charles Darwin's Adventures and Discoveries on the Beagle, 1832-1836 by Richard Keynes (Harper Collins)

s: pin http://pinicola.ca/darwind2.htm

s: amh www.amnh.org/exhibitions/darwin/trip/neighboring.php

s: scm www.scientificamerican.com/print_version.cfm?articleID=0000A280-C734-13CB-873483414B7F0101

s: smn www.smithsonianmagazine.com/issues/2005/december/darwin.php?page=5

I imagine all this is far too late for what you wanted, but hope it may be of interest anyway.

Best wishes and Happy New Year.

JJx JumpingJack (talk) 18:56, 18 January 2009 (UTC)JumpingJack

Noella Marcellino
At your convenience, please review the Jan 18 DYK for Noella Marcellino. I have done further expansion and sourcing in hopes of ensuring its acceptance. Schumyn1 did a terrific job.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * She's definitely alive. And I will be adding an infobox to the article. Is there a tutorial on how to add cats? I usually copy suitable ones from similar articles.. but there's gotta be an easier way.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * A good infobox gives an article a "special shine". :)  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Reward Board
Hi,

I've taken on the task of fully referencing 3 stubs rather than an entire article (although I still will slowly work my way through 1995 in music). I've referenced mirin which was enjoyable as I was reading the article to get more information about this ingredient in Japanese cuisine. I learned enough to know what to look for in the ingredients list and purchased a bottle of the non-fake stuff this weekend. I also referenced Musgrave Ranges. I've been to Australia once, but didn't make it into the Outback. Researching this article makes me want to go for another trip there. I've also referenced Mackenzie Northern Railway. As a Canadian, it was interesting to read a bit about how this railway came to be. Please review my work and let me know if you feel I've fulfilled the requirements you've outlined. I chose stubs that were more than single sentences to keep to the spirit of your offer. Regardless of whether I met the requirements, I had fun trying to meet the challenge. Thanks for putting it forward to me. Cheers. -- Whpq (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

More sourcings....
Finished $30 Film School this morning and just sealed the notability of The Greatest Pharaohs. I did that one specially because I noticed you at the AfD. :)  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I am so proud of my expansion of The Greatest Pharaohs, and even thugh it is still resting at AfD awaiting closure, I proposed it as a DYK diff. What the heck....  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 07:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

DYK suggestion: Fanny Salvini-Donatelli
If you're still looking for something... Fanny Salvini-Donatelli was started as stub on Jan 15th and expanded x 13 on January 18th. Several possible hooks in it. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

This was fun.....
Articles for deletion/Midge and Bob Pinciotti. Gonna be a rip-roaring good time.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

another try....
Katrina Darrell has been sourced to the sky and back. However, I have opined a merge at its AfD.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Yung D
If you remember this rapper article that was repeatedly recreated, it has appeared yet again as a talk page only (Talk:Yung D). I notice that in its AfD you said you would "SALT" it (whatever that is). I've flagged it for speedy delete, but can the SALT thing be done for the talk page as well? Astronaut (talk) 06:30, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Please send the link again....
All I got was Patrick Skene Catling. Do you have it in a sandbox?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Ahhhhhhhhhhh............ now I understand. Will see what I can work up. What timeframe is there?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Check User:MichaelQSchmidt/Patrick Skene Catling. Its nearing completion. Surprise!  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm getting edit conflicts in my own sandbox?? Ouch! Overwrote some tweaks without realizing... but put back the fixes. I'm now adding his work as a reviewer. Patience... patience...  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay... my fingers are tired and my eyes areaching. I think its ready enough for mainspace. Might even be a nice DYK here. "Did you know that reviewer Patrick Skene Catling also writes children's books?" Now its time for advice and tweaks.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

It now has a new home: Patrick Skene Catling. What was it you had yourself found out about him that made children's books such a surprise/  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:13, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * First thing that came up in Google Books when I read he was a writer. I actually found he was a reviewer only in the last hour. And now I have to go source The Chocolate Touch before it gets sent to AfD. Look what you started. (chuckle) Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:20, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay. Sourced awards for The Chocolate Touch. Found a thrid and included it, then added 2 sources showing it is used in classrooms.. and there are a lot more. G'night.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:42, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible.

Thank You
I really appreciate your support for helping me out and paticipating in my article in the discussion page. Hope my articles will survive from deletion.   空手道®  Jjskarate (talk) 03:42, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Reply: DYK nominations
I tried in almost one hour to fix a template for the Konstantin Sokolenko nomination. And it doesent worked. I don't know how to do. The Rolling Camel (talk) 13:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Its getting like this


 * &mdash; Self nom at 10:31, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

| hook             = lsklodeforg | creator          = The Rolling Camel | creator2         = | creator3         = | creator4         = | expander         = | expander2        = Now i did not completed but that is how it looks when i have completed the template too. The Rolling Camel (talk) 10:31, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Mr. Xtreme
Just an FYI, I endorsed your merge proposal on the AfD.  Grsz  11  14:07, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Your vote on Jes Rickleff
Thanks for your vote on Articles for deletion/Jes Rickleff. I thought you might also be interested in voting on this one, Articles for deletion/Destiney Sue Moore. Thanks! Plastikspork (talk) 17:53, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


 * And one more, Articles for deletion/Jessica Kinni, perhaps less notable than Destiney, but more than Jes? Thanks for your input! Plastikspork (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Fiction Survey 2009
I'll be sure and let you know when it's ready to be answered. Does it ask the right questions? --Pixelface (talk) 20:44, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

The Big Gay Musical
How on earth could anyone have argued or agreed with Crystal???  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

PokéBall
Hi, Thanks for the message concerning my speedy delete tag on this article. Not being an expert on Pokemon, I read this sentence: "If yu want to catch a pokemon then you will have to fight it to make it weak or make it faint that way it will make it easier to catch" and thought it was childish vandalism. I realise now that it had some relevance to the overall topic. Anyway, I will take greater care with my noms in future. Thanks, WWGB (talk) 23:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/The Christmas Tree (film)
Took your "hint" to heart and fixed the heck out of that poor article. Sally Field's debut is sourced. Kind of a shame what some editors put up as articles. Yet another one done... just like I just fixed up and sourced The Big Gay Musical and Le Voyage D'Inuk. Seems with the right "magic", one CAN turn a sow's ear into a silk purse (grins).  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 03:15, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Reference desk
Hello, MGM! Just spotted a gap, and added your signature to this list. It is good to see you at the desks. I remember your warm welcome in response to one of the first questions I (non-)answered. I hope you don't mind being on that list. ---Sluzzelin talk
 * Ha ha, thank you for your kind offer. I had to look up the reward board and DYK-sized stubs (?). I will take it in the intended spirit, and try to pay attention to WP:ALS before spring. Remember that sloths move slowly, even when on fire ;-) ---Sluzzelin talk  12:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

living word fellowship afd
hey, just to let you know i replied to your comment on my talk page and it would be great if you could give me your thoughts on the matter. thanks Jessi1989 (talk) 14:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your comment--Ali nankali (talk) 15:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

writing "help"
Hi MGM, you were interested in issues related to the publishing industry? I just received an email (well, spam) from these guys: http://www.writersrelief.com/newsflash.asp. Happy submitting, Drmies (talk) 19:05, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Could you take a look and advise...?
Just fixed a double-header: Articles for deletion/Stuart Draper for Stuart Draper and a play called To W.H.. I am a bit out of my league with plays and playwrights. You advice would be appreciated.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 05:18, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah... I hate that 2 for 1 stuff too. As it is I am currently working more on the Draper article. Its gonna shine.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:47, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Look now. MUCH better. I am happy with the results.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:01, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * And I just left a "note to closer" at the AfD page. For myself, it was easier to fix them both at the same time. I think they're both strong and well-sourced keepers. Thanks.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Comment on my talk page
Hi. Thanks for the comment on my talk page. I'm a little unclear whether you actually wanted a response or whether this was just an attempt to get some frustration off your chest (I may just be misreading the tone). Let me know if you'd like to discuss in more detail the question of how to resolve the issue of inconsistency between the AfD decisions - I'm very open to ideas on this (incidentally, our views on how to resolve this are actually a lot closer than you might realise - kicking off a centralised discussion is already one of my planned next steps). All the best SP-KP (talk) 10:34, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. If you have any thoughts on where to hold the centralised discussion, let me know. I was going to do it via the Deletion Review process, but there might be a better mechanism which I'm not aware of. Cheers. SP-KP (talk) 10:53, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. That sounds like a better idea. Just to allay one concern, I've kept copies of the deleted pages in my user space, so they'll be available to all when we have the central discussion. I'll be in touch to let you know when the centralised discussion in up & running. All the best. SP-KP (talk) 11:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Sausage bread
Thanks for inviting me to comment. Looks like people have different mental pictures when it comes to sausage and bread. Mine is similar to what you've identified, where the bread has an ingredient baked into it or inside it. Interestingly, even "sausage roll" is ambiguous-- the first thing I think of is not rolls of bread, but the type of package you find in a supermarket. Mandsford (talk) 14:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Unreferenced Article Cleanup
As if I did not have enough on my plate... Okay. I joined.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 17:57, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Surprisingly, I can leave the keyboard for hours or days at a time and not go into withdrawals. But, yes, trust I will avoid burnout. (grin).  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Question
Why is there DYKs that sit around for days without any replies? Schuym1 (talk) 22:11, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * If you think that I am able to review yours then you're crazy. Schuym1 (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Lists of unusual things - centralised discussion
Hi. Please could you take a look at: User:SP-KP/Centralised discussion on lists of unusual things and let me know if you think this is OK as an opening contribution to the centralised discussion. If you can suggest any improvements, please do. Once we're happy with, I'll move it to the appropriate place and notify other interested parties. Thanks SP-KP (talk) 18:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I've done some rewording. How does it look now? SP-KP (talk) 22:29, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

C.J. Stryver
Hello! By any chance, might you reconsider the redirect, because if you check what I have been doing to the article thus far, please note in particular that external link, I believe I can compliment the section on "Depiction in the novel" with one on "Depiction in film, television, and broadway" as the character has been portrayed at least ten times in those various mediums (IMDB doesn't list the broadway productions) and I am fairly confident that a scholarly reception section can be added. Thanks for your time and consideration! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 02:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Boot Camp (film)
Could you close this one as a speedy keep? I improved it. There have been no delete votes. And even the nom now votes keep. Thanks.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Figured out what happened. Likely an honest error, but there has been a continued and repeated misinterpretation of guideline that is creating a growing harm to the project. The section of WP:NF which had been set up specifically as a guideline as to when and how one might expect sources to likely be available, has been itself repeated confused with the specific guidelines determining notability. And when this source determiner is confusingly presented as a point by by point refutation of notability as it has been at Afd after Afd after AfD, it tends to quash any further acceptance of actual notability. When I saw the source advisory being misused yet one more time and quite out of context as a notability advisory, I became quite disheartened. I am now getting close to burnout and abandoning wiki. Its hard to keep lighting candles in the darkness when the shadows are full of blustery winds that pointedly snuff out the light.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:37, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * It is my first experience with a dedicated case of UGH and someone who is a devout deletionist. I tried to be gracious.... only to have my face slapped.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 08:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Your urgent help required!
Friend MacGyver, I thank you warning 203.206.128.19 (I checked out that he was using a fake IP and gradually caught sight of your warning to him. But he insulted me and user-Dismas badly. So, can you suggest what to do? If this thing recurs in advancing future, what should do to stop such nonsense? And, where should we report to? Since I've recently joined Wikipedia, please help me out. Anirban16chatterjee (talk) 10:17, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, for your help and reply.


 * From this diff I have some concern, echoed by Capricorn42, that this user might be directly involved in the vandalism reported above. I don't think any further action is required at this point, but I wanted you to be aware of this should a similar drama play out in the future. -- 74.137.108.115 (talk) 12:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Confused
Thank you for dealing with my Archive page. I am slightly confused though, I requested the User_Talk:Demortes/Archive_1 be left there for the archiving of talk page comments... yet it's gone after you archive User:Demortes/Archive_1. Since it seems, obviously, you know much more about this, is there anyway you can help me complete this, and recover those comments I archived already? Thank you (Please leave a talkback if you reply here). Demortes (talk) 18:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it works as designed... Demortes (talk) 18:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
MuZemike 19:12, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Aleksander Cepuš
Thanks for the note. It seems that Twinkle did everything but tag the article itself when I AfD'd, so when I saw no AfD template I grabbed the template from my last edit, which was the PROD one, thinking it was a removed AfD template, grrr. I do know the difference and the processes, honest, just had a bit of a brain fart. Thanks for straightening it out. Regards, TrulyBlue (talk) 10:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Mark Libbeter
Can this page be unprotected? 194.81.151.145 (talk) 12:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Aleksander Cepuš
I wrote references, links, proofs for every single releashed Aleksander Cepuš album. Cheers. Kukovica3 (talk) 14:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

For info
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Victoria_School&diff=266512011&oldid=266483297 The IP address used is a common one. Not by known vandal. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.12.219 (talk) 14:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

A centralised discussion which may interest you
Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Dustbin Baby
Hello, you noted at the WP:GAN page that Dustbin Baby (film) was being reviewed, but there does not seem to be a review underway. Are you planning to review the article? I was just wondering, since I've given people at WikiProject Films a heads-up about the articles on the backlog. — Erik (talk • contrib) 23:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, just wanted to make sure! :) — Erik (talk • contrib) 23:11, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

IDon
Redirecting didn't work. The article was simply recreated at IDon (album). JamesBurns (talk) 02:53, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Referencing
Hi Mgm

In re: Reward board please see this diff. And this one. Still lots of unreferenced claims which are unlikely to have references any time soon--flag them as or delete?

And another one.

One more.

Fully referenced.

Yet another.

I feel the need.

Regards, Bongo  matic  05:08, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * So, not to put too fine a point on it, could you either indicate in what way these annotation fail to meet your criteria, or satisfy the rewards promised? Bongo  matic  13:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Parc de Belleville
I've added the "longest cascading waterfall fountain" fact into the "Description" section where the fountain's mentioned. CA387Talk 16:52, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Dustbin Baby (film)/GA1
Thanks a lot for the review- I have dealt with or replied to all of your comments. J Milburn (talk) 22:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I readjusted one of your edits, expanded the section on the DVD with another reference and some more details (couldn't find any reliable reviews) and I have no idea why a BBC film was released by ITV DVD- struck me as odd too, but no sources mentioned it. Also, thanks for the heads up about my recognised content page, that was my own careless mistake. J Milburn (talk) 18:12, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That's great, thanks very much for your time. J Milburn (talk) 21:21, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

MoonWalk
Ping, just in case your interested. You know, we have so many articles on Wikipedia, hard to believe we only just created an article for the autobiography on one of the worlds most recognized living people. — Realist  2  23:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

AFD for Frank Smith (fireman)
I've opened a second AFD for Frank Smith (fireman). As a participant in the first AFD, I thought you might want to review and contribute your opininion. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 12:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)