User talk:MacGyverMagic/Archive 30

The Deletion Of Bonerficationism
so i heard that one of my favorite bands finnally got an article on wikipedia, well i go and look for it and find that its GONE, well not taking my friends for liars i search and find that you had deleted the article.

i ask you, why? they are an extremely good band and they deserve a page just like everyone else, just because they arent "main stream" like brittney spears or any of those other bands they need one just as much because they deserve one.

if little bands like The Aquabats have one, (even as awsome as they are) shouldnt Bonerficationism get one as well?

please contact me back on this issue for i am deeply worried that you might be railroading people on here for reason that they dont deserve

Ssjaken 00:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)ssjaken

Sysop day
Congratulations MacGyverMagic! It's you anniversary! Wooohooo! You deserve some credit for all your hard work. Great job mate! Keep up the Good work! Dfrg.m s c 1. 2 . 3 10:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

archive
You might want to archive, your page is really, really long. :) &mdash; ¡ Rand  fan  !  01:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Advise please
Hi Mgm, since you are an OTRS volunteer, I thought I'd ask you. I had requested Mindspillage to add me to OTRS volunteers some time back. Not sure if she has seen my message. I see other similar messages pending on her talk page as well. Know of any other OTRS admins, who I can speak to? &mdash; Lost (talk) 06:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks &mdash; Lost (talk) 09:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Clerk
What would I need to become an assistant clerk on the ArbCom? Are there prerequisites to joining?  Culv e  rin  ?   Talk  09:22, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Movies that feature head explosions
I replied. —Doug Bell talk 11:36, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Boy you sure got busy "fixing" that. Sorry for causing you all the needless effort. —Doug Bell talk 11:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Fishing fo Pike
I make no judgment on whether it is suitable for wikibooks, only on the suitability for for wikipedia, thus the delete. -- Whpq 13:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)


 * After reading the article twice, I didn't feel as if it was suitable for Wikibooks. Others, more familiar with the requirements et al for WB can make that sort of call. --Elar a girl  Talk 15:01, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
 * If you mean this one, I didn't make any consideration for Wikibooks because I'm not familiar with it. I didn't think it should be merged into Pike. I voted delete because it's not suitable for Wikipedia. If it could be put into the Wikibooks as a how to guide I'd have no objection.-- John Lake 18:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Sword of Christ
Hi, I see you unblocked User:Sword of Christ with the reason unblock to change duration. I assume you meant to increase the time on the ban but you seem to have left it unblocked. I will leave it as it is until I hear from you or the user starts up again. Thanks, HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 15:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Adminship Anniversary!
-- lov e  laughterlife♥ talk?  23:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Puzzle (album)
I closed Articles for deletion/Puzzle (album) and redirected Puzzle (album) to Biffy Clyro. I've added it to my watchlist, so I'm not sure that preventively asking for a protect or sprotect is really necessary, but since you mentioned it I'm leaving this note ... There's something a bit odd about the edit box for your talk page. Doesn't seem to pick up that it's this page that should be edited if the subject is like page name. Not sure why that might be. Cheers ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I did edit the text in the box, so that explains it. Thanks ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

FAC of bacteria
An editor has made some major changes to this article, could you please return to the FAC and provide some feedback on whether or not these are an improvement? TimVickers 21:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Masts for deletion
Hello. As the closing admin, I'm notifying the most active contributors to Articles for deletion/University of North Carolina Tower Chapel Hill, which has now been closed, in case they want to take any action about it. Best, Sandstein 12:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your help...
with that Category link for Category:National Film Board of Canada productions. Shawn in Montreal 18:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Mind Bending
Given the MFD, I would have thought it was mind-bendingly obvious that we were talking about the same pages. Joking apart: "This part will involve creating a faux article"...a bad start. Why not create a real article/stub? I did 2 today, plus a redirect. There are hundreds more articles that need writing.

"After you choose your topic, proceed to write an article (in the subpage, of course, not in the main namespace) on the topic. Articles should try and resemble the style of actual Wikipedia articles as much and should strive for featured article quality. (Of course, this cannot be reiterated enough: do not confuse these fictitious articles with real articles, do not create the articles in the main namespace, and do not submit these articles to the featured article candidates process.)"

Worse and worse. Why not write real FAs? There are billions more articles that need improving to FA status. If you want to learn how to do good research and write well-referenced articles then do so on real topics in the mainspace, which is what Wikipedia desperately needs! WP:GA is a good start as it is slightly less rigorous than FA. But I fail to see need for these fictitious articles, which, quite frankly, strike me as bizarre.

Oh, and one more thing. If people want to let off some steam by social networking - which does seem to be main point - per WP:NOT, they can do so elsewhere. Moreschi 19:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Re. User:Chempep
Thanks, I was not aware of the discussion on WP:ANI. I have reblocked indef this user on the grounds of inappropriate username. Regards.-- Hús  ö  nd  22:05, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Request
Hi there,

Would you mind taking a look at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Bryan_Brandenburg

Thanks Linux monster 00:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

b:Transwiki:Fishing for pike
It's there, just not on that log yet (everything gets auto-logged at b:Special:Log/import, I update the transwiki log once a week or so, though it's sort of redundant now). -- SB_Johnny |talk|books 14:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

thank you
Just wanted to say thanks for stopping by the AFD discussion. It needed an outside perspective. I've made some basic changes to the structure. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.

Thanks again.

Linux monster 22:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Heads Up
Hi again,

I think |Dallben isn't through yet and I think there's something fishy going on. The day after your decision, this appeared on the discussion page of Zygote Media Group:

"Bryan Brandenburg worked at Zygote Media Group from January 2005 to April 2006. User 3dscience respectfully declines to comment on any inquiries regarding his employment at Zygote Media Group."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Zygote_Media_Group

This is not what Wiki is for, is it? There are a number of edits from 3Dscience going on, which is fine, but this one seems out there.

Now the same day here's what Dallben put on his talk page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dallben/BrandenburgRewrite

There seems to an agenda with Dallben/Zygote to smear Brandenburg.

I jumped in on his deletion because there were red flags going up and I knew of some his companys.

This is bigger than me at this point.

Thanks for looking into this.

Linux monster 02:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Not reblocked uzer User:Sword of Christ
Despite the userpage which says he's been blocked, the block log seems to show that he was not reblocked after you unblocked him. 68.39.174.238 04:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey long time no visit!
Hey dude! I see you work some on the commons regarding which is certainly not a Luge, as the uploader added: "Note: The title was my own mistake, this is a BOBSLEIGH, not a Luge." , so I ask, is there a way to correct and rename images on the commons? The issue occurs more often than I'd like with maps and such, so I thought I'd ask and touch base as well. Drop or Xpost your answer on so I see it soonest, assuming we're both on. Have a great holiday season! Best regards // Fra nkB 16:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks -- as I feared. Guess that improvement is still awaiting wishful fullfillment, no matter how long I take 'off' for RL matters!  Thanks // Fra nkB 21:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

White Deer Hole Creek
Thanks for you input. I will change it to "two etymologies have been suggested" and agree that you "settle in" an area.

Perhaps it is an older (archaic?) usage, but people can also "settle on" various bodies of water (in the sense that they settle on the banks of the creek, river, on the shore of a bay, etc.). Meginness (published in 1892 and one reference for the Farley story) uses "settled on White Deer Creek" and a search on Google with "settled on" in quotes and "creek" found many instances of this usage. The same is true for a "mill on a creek" (and one could argue that a water powered mill is at least partly in / on the water itself, though definitely not floating as you pointed out). See also the title of George Eliot's novel The Mill on the Floss (where the Floss is a fictional river). Since it can be confusing, I will change the sentence in question to "settled on the banks of White Deer Hole Creek". I prefer to keep "built a mill on the creek" as that seems to be the preferred usage (and saying "on the banks of" twice would be awkward).

As for the relation between the two paragraphs, they are two different sources that give two different reasons for the name. My interpretation of WP:NOR is that I am not supposed to make a connection between them in the article, unless it is verifiable elsewhere (and it is not that I have found - Donehoo does not mention Meginness, and Meginness does not mention the Lenape name). What I tried to make clear by citing Donehoo's map names is that the earliest map name (1755) is the slightly garbled Lenape words for White Deer Hole Creek. A more corrupted version and its translation are on a slightly later map (1759), and by 1770 "White Deer hole" is the name on maps for good. The land was only opened to non-Native American settlers in 1768 (Treaty of Fort Stanwix) and the earliest settlers are 1769 or 1770, about the same time as the map with the modern name. We don't know a lot about the first settlers as they were all chased out and their homes burnt (and some killed) in the Big Runaway of 1778 and again in the Little Runaway of 1779. The Farley family arrives in 1787, 17 or 18 years after the first settlers, 32 years after the first mention of the Lenape name.

84 or so years later, John Farley talked about his life and related the story of someone killing a white deer near the hole where his father Caleb built the mill. The full quoatation is: "I was four years old when my father came here in 1787. We had plenty of red deer at that time. They could be seen every day when we stepped out of our cabins and went along through the valley or over the mountains. I never saw any white deer here, but a white deer is said to have been killed at an early day in a low hole or pond of water that once existed where my father built his mill, and that was the only white deer ever known in this valley." I think it is worth noting that Farley does not say who killed the deer - it could be a settler or a Native American (so could he perhaps be referring to a Lenape tradition passed down through the previous settlers?).

Sorry to be so long winded. I will make the changes and also put this on the article's talk page. Please ask if there are more questions you have. Thanks again, Ruhrfisch 17:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


 * My apologies. Having worked on the article so long I tend to get a bit myopic - thanks very much for pointing out my failure to make the relation of Farley's story to the name clear (especially when I didn't get it the first time you told me). I have edited the section in question and hope it is clearer and more understandable. If it is any consolation, my spouse (who is a native speaker of English) did not know the usage "settled on a creek" when I asked. Is it OK that I put our earlier exchange on the article's talk page? I was being bold. Thanks again, Ruhrfisch 22:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your support at Featured article candidates/White Deer Hole Creek. I have made the suggested changes. Please let me know if you have any concerns or suggestions for improvement. Yours, Ruhrfisch 17:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Adminship
Hi. I see that you're an admin, and as someone who wishes to be recognized as such, I'd greatly appreciate your advice on how to go about achieving it. "It's not a big deal," but the process certainly makes it out to be so. I just want to be able to, for a start, close uncontroversial A/T/Cfd/m/r's. Later I'd move onto more heated debates that are reaching rough consensus. What do you think I should do now? Thanks a lot. Xiner 15:10, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Bad Idea?
I could use an assist (maybe two). I have a pet peeve, and thought I'd come up with a good concept for making chides to editors who leave incomplete documentation trails by creating sort of a wet diaper award. It seems to be drawing some adverse reactions, and even before I'd spammed a request to some others like this for brainstorming on how to shorten same and evolve it, as I'm not happy with it either. Subsequently, it's already drawn fire (here) before I could ask in help and get suggestions. Can you take a look and comment here. There has to be some way to let people know 'shallow edit actions' that reflect poorly on our pages need a talk note justification, no exceptions, thankyou. Much appreciated // Fra nkB 22:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Points taken.
Thanks. Xiner 14:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

re Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Reference desk/rules
I think you're missing some context here. This is not a case of forking an existing, in use, page to work on a copy. It's a case of forking a page under discussion because of a content disagreement. Neither of these pages is more "current" than the other, both are under active development. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:01, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Image upload broken?
Thanks for the tips. Still no joy. The image is properly tagged .jpg, and I replaced the &.

Maybe I'll try it with a different browser -- though Firefox worked before...,

Thanks anyway -- Pete Tillman 18:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Cory Doctorow quote
You asked if I'm aware of Wikiquote. Vaguely. Feel free to post this one there. I have an addition to the Doctorow page re his free e.texts on my to-do list.

Cheers, Pete Tillman 20:46, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for help page response.--Droll 04:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Ayatollah (producer)
RE: Your Message The language used on the page makes it nonsensical. Jonomacdrones 14:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Mastermynd
I don't have the audio, he just posted up the link to the interview on a bulletin of his Myspace License2Kill 20:03, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Colouring snag on infobox musician
If the infobox is being used on an individual who is solo and part of a group then you should use the "solo_singer" option in the infobox. Does that answer your question?--NeilEvans 20:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Alexis Bledel and Samaire Armstrong pictures
Hi, I was quite distressed that you deleted those two pictures, but I want to let you know that I've thoroughly researched image copyrights and am going to upload them again, this time with adequate info, I hope. Happy Evil Dude 00:01, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Becoming an arbitration clerk
I'd appreciate it if you showed me how to become an arbitration clerk. Yes, I know the general procedure: I'm interested in learning how the system works, and I'd like you to teach me the basics, if you don't mind. ŞρІϊţ ۞ ĨήƒϊήίтҰ (тąιк 02:45, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

{ {succession box} }
There is some misunderstanding here. I do not want to change that box but was interested in creating a similar one with different wording as a tradebox for professional sports:

The "preceded by" doesn't make sense here so I wanted to change the box (actually create a new box on the same model) Lost Kiwi (talk) 09:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Alexis Bledel and Samaire Armstrong pictures
Yeah, don't worry, that's what I did, I edited them. Hopefully, everything's fine now. Happy Evil Dude 16:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

About Sorin Cerin
Thank you!Is unacceptable what is happening with Sorin Cerin in contrib.page open by Jmabel!Please read. Thank you again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.114.26.107 (talk) 19:43, 19 December 2006 (UTC).


 * I replied to you on my talk page. Let's try to keep the substantive parts of our conversation abou this in one place. And if you think what I'm doing is "unacceptable", please say so, I value your opinion much more than that of what appears to be the same anonymous user who keeps raising this issue. Thanks. - Jmabel | Talk 23:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

getting info from deleted pages
In the help desk you stated that you could help get some deleted material if a reason was given.

The topic is "Cycle_studies" and I wish to review the page as it was before deletion so that I can consider whether a new article should be written with the same topic. The reasons for the original deletion were spurious to say the least. The talk page would be useful also. Please put a note on my talk page about where you put the material. Thanks. Ray Tomes 22:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. The reason I say spurious is that the account put forward in the proposal for deletion was full of factual errors. I quote "There is no recognized field of study called "cycle studies"; this article was created by User:RayTomes, who has created a number of articles pushing his own cranky theories, which derive from the vapid numerological mysticism of one Edward R. Dewey. In his UseNet postings, websites, and WP articles, Tomes attempts to present this material as a respectable mainstream science, which amounts to attempting to mislead our readers."
 * Error 1 - Hillman states There is no recognized field of study called "cycle studies". Do a google search on "cycle studies" to find hundreds of thousands of pages.
 * Error 2 - "RayTomes, who has created a number of articles pushing his own cranky theories". This is a lie. There was only one article on my theory, I did not create it, and it is not cranky.
 * Error 3 - "vapid numerological mysticism of one Edward R. Dewey". This single phrase has an error in every word. The Dewey article is now in a quite good state. Dewey worked with and was supported in his work by many famous men including nobel prize winners. He never practiced numerology. His work was always clear and based on sound statistics and mathematics (as advised by experts).
 * Error 4 - in his web site "Tomes attempts to present this material as a respectable mainstream science, which amounts to attempting to mislead our readers.". Hillman grossly distorts everything, even claiming that I started the FSC - remarkable as it started in 1941, six years before I was born. There are thousands of articles published in peer reviewed journals that report cycles found in every branch of science. The best of these look at the wider interdisciplinary relationships.
 * The lies put forward by Hillman severely tainted the voting of people. If he gets involved again in the same manner I shall ask for him to be removed from wikipedia.
 * Before I attempt to reinstate the pages I do want to see them to consider what form a new article might take. That is why I request being able to see the historical page before initiating any action. It would be silly to reinstate an inferior article and Hillman did much to butcher pages before putting them up for votes of deletion. Ray Tomes 11:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
 * My remark about Hillman was a general one. I am not in a position to state with regard to the particular article (as you are). The question still remains - can you please supply the article somewhere (perhaps in my talk space) so that I can see what it said just before it was deleted? Then I can take account of any valid criticism (unlike Hillman's) before considering writing a new article. Ray Tomes 21:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

MacGyver
Angus MacGyver is cool. I just saw your user name on the section listing what pages use an image on Image:Cake.jpg... I figured I'd leave this trivial note. :) The Duke of MacGyverMagic 14:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Film identification
Possibly A Step Toward Tomorrow (1996) IMDB --Steve (Slf67)talk 00:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Your article, Oliver Smith (UK politician), was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! ++Lar: t/c 22:45, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Mike Mendoza again
Hi Mgm. You responded to the problem surrounding this article, regarding the fact that Mike Mendoza founded a radio station, but is no longer involved with them. After weeks of peace, an IP has now started to remove the sentence stating that he is no longer involved, saying "The fact that he is not a presenter on Shalom does not mean he is not associated with it" - this is total nonsense, we know for certain that he is no longer associated with it because the subject told us, and while that doesn't meet WP:V we've sourced it as well as we can. I've already reverted once, but the anon persists. Could you help out? I may be the only one watching, and I can't be the only one reverting. I've no wish for the subject to get himself involved again. --Sam Blanning(talk) 00:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Sam Blanning(talk) 11:05, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Genious!
Thanx MGM, I'll take a look at the code version to see how you did that. Crisco 1492 10:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
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 * Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays ! | A ndonic O <i style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:Tan;">Talk</i> 01:04, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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Re: Collapsible boxes
I tried playing around with a mock-up of the page on my sandbox and attempted transcluding a caption, but it didn't work; I'm not really sure how to make it work at this point. Apologies that I wasn't of more help - perhaps someone at the Village Pump can be more useful? Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note? ) 03:38, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I did not realize that this wasn't allowed. I apologize. Infomanager 00:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC)