User talk:MacGyverMagic/In Progress/History of British children's television

Useful links

 * http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/1219668.stm - a possible alternative link for proof of Blue Peter being the longest running
 * http://www.80snostalgia.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=60 - details of lots of 80s programmes, most of them from kids TV
 * http://www.bbc.co.uk/heritage/more/resources.shtml - "The BBC Story"
 * http://www.screenonline.org.uk, including
 * http://www.screenonline.org.uk/tv/id/898446/index.html - "Factual Children's Television"
 * http://www.screenonline.org.uk/tours/childrens/tourchildrens8.html - "Teenage/'Youth'"
 * http://www.screenonline.org.uk/tv/id/446013/index.html - "Saturday Morning TV"
 * http://freespace.virgin.net/greg.taylor1/watched_it/citv.html - Children's ITV

Styles
Would we be able to include different styles of programmes, or is that too broad for here? There are several different formats:
 * Stand-alone animations
 * Animated series
 * Contestant-based
 * Adventures (ie. 80s Knightmare, 00s Raven)
 * Quizzes
 * "Fun" (ie. Fun House)
 * Soap
 * Informative (ie. Art Attack, Blue Peter, Newsround)

Not sure where something like T-Bag would fit in there! violet/riga (t) 16:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Dates
From http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/history/history.htm


 * 23 April 1950 – First televised Children's Newsreel
 * 11 July 1950 – Andy Pandy first televised
 * 18 December 1952 – Bill and Ben, The Flowerpot Men first televised
 * 10 September 1953 – Rag, Tag and Bobtail first televised
 * 14 February 1955 – Picture Book first televised
 * 13 April 1955 – For Deaf Children (later called Vision On) first televised
 * 9 September 1955 – The Woodentops first televised
 * 14 September 1955 – Crackerjack first televised
 * 19 November 1956 – Lenny the Lion first televised
 * 24 September 1957 – BBC television for schools began
 * 20 October 1957 – Pinky and Perky first televised
 * 16 October 1958 – Blue Peter first televised

violet/riga (t) 19:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

First programme
I have included For The Children, shown to be the first programme aimed at children. That article states that it was "[f]irst broadcast on the BBC Television Service at 3pm on Saturday 24 April 1937", but I don't yet have a source for that, only the 1946 start. violet/riga (t) 21:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * http://www.ppo.co.uk/pelham/info/media/tv-film.htm is one, but I'm looking for a better one. violet/riga (t) 21:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * (copied from Violetriga's talk) Nice work on the controversies - there are many more (Blue Peter, The Sooty Show) but we don't want to swamp the article with that, so a future split may be worthwhile. Also, there must be hundreds of kids educational programmes in the UK. Something Special, Dora the Explorer, those by Johnny Ball...  We could combine "educational" with "informative", thus include The Really Wild Show and the news programmes.  violet/riga (t) 10:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Another one: How 2. violet/riga (t) 12:26, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Saturday morning timeline
I've tried my hand at making a timeline for kids TV shows on BBC and ITV, but I've come across two problems:
 * 1) Before ITV became more unified each region had their own show.
 * 2) BBC programmes have alternated quite a bit, with a Summer show and an, umm, non-Summer show.

I'm not entirely sure how to fix these problems at the moment. Perhaps a different type of timeline will be needed violet/riga (t) 11:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I've redone it, but am quite uneasy about the information I've used so far. Need to research when they were all actually broadcast.  violet/riga (t) 12:25, 25 August 2006 (UTC)