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Barnstar
I, V. Molotov, hereby give you this barnstar for participation in VfDs.

Molotov (talk)  21:14, 19 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Thank you. First time I've been decorated. --MacRusgail 15:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Minor Barnstar


In recognition of your many good minor edits. Reyk 22:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --MacRusgail 22:58, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. You deserve it. Reyk 23:18, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Dwelly project
Category:Dwelly This category is for articles incorporating text from “Dwelly’s [Scottish] Gaelic Dictionary” (1911) by Edward Dwelly, from that dictionary's encyclopedic entries (rather than just definitions). Where possible/suitable, an English translation is used as the title:

Done (22/03/06)
Aoghairean, Aois-dàna, Brownie (elf) (Uruisg), Canntaireachd, Ciud-siorraig, Clann-an-oistir, Clay-body (Corp-creadha), Còmhla-bhigein, Crann-nan-gad, Crois-iarna (Iron Cross is taken), Crom Dubh (Crum-dubh), Cuirm, Daugh (Dabhach), Druids' glass (Gloine), Druineach, Foot plough (Cas-chrom etc), Force-fire (Tein'-eigin), Half-foot, Lavellan (Labh-allan), liaghra], Long Èireannach, Lèine bhàn, MacGillonie (Sguaban-stothaidh), Matron's badge (Bréid), Muc-sheilch, Ounceland (Unga, Peighinn etc), Oxgang (do.), Pennyland (do.), Religion of the Yellow Stick (Creideamh...), Scottish Gaelic personal naming system (names appendix), Slinneanachd, Sunwise (deiseal), Taghairm, Traditional dyes of the Scottish Highlands (dath), Tulchan (Tulachan), Wonder tuft (Tom-an-ioghnaidh)

Also incorporating some text from Dwelly

 * Coracle + Currach (Curach), Drinking horn (Corn), Friday (Di-haoine), Sunwise (Deiseil),

To do

 * Aurora borealis (Na fir-chlis), bauk (leum-iochd), Cairn (Carn), Crofter (croitear), Fallaid, faoilteach (+ Faoilleach), gradan, muileann-bra (English title), posting (postadh), poit dubh, propataireachd

Additional
Improve Edward Dwelly's biography.

Places needing images
Islands: Ascrib Islands, Soay, Isle Ornsay, Barra Isles, Fladda, Treshnish Isles, Stac Biorach,  Inchmahome, Rough Island, Scotland, Eilean Liubhaird, Little Bernera, Muckle Green Holm, Rysa Little, Gunna, Kili Holm, Island Macaskin, Uynarey, Hermetray, Islands of Fleet, East Linga, Linga, Samphrey, Linga, Vementry, Gloup Holm, Uyea, Northmavine, Shetland, Brother Isle, Ramna Stacks, Handa, Scotland, North Ronaldsay, Yell (island), Grimsay,

Locations: Keith Inch, Cairn O' Mounth, King Edward, Aberdeenshire,

etc etc

Improved: Whalsay, Eday, Flotta

Esperanto
Saw your note re Eilean Aigas. You might be interested in the discussion about using audio files instead here. Ben MacDuiTalk /  Walk  19:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Edgeøya
This article clearly states that "Edgeøya is an uninhabited Norwegian island". But at last mention "It is seldom visited today". This last sentence needs some more clarification. Seldom visited means what? Who visits and why?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 12:28, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also if this island is uninhabited, then there should not be any port etc. Thus the people who occasionally visit the island, how they visit if there is no port or transportation in the island?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 12:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

-hou
Just in case you're interested in this one...(improvement welcome!) --Sionnach 18:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Probably should mention Norman language more, plus also the fact that the suffix -holm can be found in some Hebridean names, e.g. Lingeam.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Lingeam? The only one I could find was "Linga Holm", which would be in Orkney and not in the Hebrides. Do you know of any other Hebridean place names with the suffix –holm? It would be an interesting fact I would like to add.--Sionnach 06:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * A lot of the names have been Gaelicised. Lingeam is the name of several very small Hebridean islands - I think they may be mentioned at Linga (disambiguation) --MacRusgail (talk) 15:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

-holm

In Loch Roag - Gre\ineam (cf Greineim off Mealasta = Green Holm), Gousam, Liacam, Trathasam, Seildeim, Siaram.

off Mingulay - Geirum Beag & Mo\r

off Vatersay - Biruaslum

Monach Isles - Odarum Off Hermetray - Fuam, Greanem Off Killegray & Ensay - Vacam, Heslem, Coddam, Sleicham Off Scalpay - Greinem x2, Ruam an Tolla, Raarem Off Scarp - Ostem

off Gigha - Gigalum off Gometra - Eilean Dioghlum off Sanday - Ha\slam off Eilean nan Ro\n - Meall Holm

Proposed Merger of "Non-Trinitarian churches" with "Nontrinitarianism"
Hello! I wanted to let you know that I am proposing the merger of an article to which you have been a major contributor, Non-Trinitarian churches, with a parent article, Nontrinitarianism. Reasons are stated at the Talk Page. It has also been added to the list of proposed mergers. Since you created the page originally and have been it's largest contributor, I felt it fair to let you know myself about the proposal. Lioux (talk) 12:35, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

You might be interested in...
WikiProject Council/Proposals Ben   Mac  Dui  08:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Extinct settlements proposal
Thanks for your support on this proposal. Sadly, I don't there's enough support to make it a "goer". What I've done instead, is to set up a family of categories "Lost settlements in x" under "Lost settlements". Used "Lost" instead of "Extinct" as there were alreadty some "lost settlements in x" categories that could be included. Also tied in cats such as "Ghost towns" and "Sunken cities". Comments welcome. The first negative comment has appeared at Category talk:Lost settlements in Asia. Folks at 137 (talk) 10:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I was advised to propose renaming the "Lost settlement" categories. The discussion is at Categories for discussion/Log/2008 December 20. I hope that you will contribute. Folks at 137 (talk) 20:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

British political parties
I have made suggestions for inclusion criteria for Template:British political parties on the talk page, and I am about to open an RfC. Comments welcome. Fences and windows (talk) 00:00, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Graeme Davis (mediaevalist)
Hi MacRusgail, Just wondered if you were aware that the article Graeme Davis (mediaevalist) was created by Graeme Davis (mediaevalist). This doesn't seem right. Do you think anything should be done about it? And if so, what? You have a great deal more experience on Wikipedia than me. Please tell me if you think it is all above board, if you don't want to get involved, or if I should just ask someone else (although I would be grateful to hear any suggestion as to whom). Cheers, Daicaregos (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Davis even claims herethat he wrote his own article so that potential employers would not mistake him for another Graeme Davies on Wikipedia. I wonder how many potential employers would be impressed by someone who created their own entry? Talskiddy (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Eilean a' Chaolais
I agree that English names often use the plural but in this case we're dealing with the translation of a Gaelic placename and the Gaelic is without question just referring to a single one. Akerbeltz (talk) 17:58, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Rugby union in Tunisia
Re: wanting references, how am I meant to reference something that I have removed from an article for being outdated? The current reference, which states that Tunisia has half the registered players Morocco does, is from 1997, and given that it is from an encyclopedic book was almost certainly compiled based on even older information. Today the situation is reversed, Tunisia has more than twice as many registered players as Morocco. How would you like me to reference this when the relevant paragraph was simply removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.255.0.161 (talk) 06:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Sport
Why did you delete my piece on Sport in the Modern Celts article? Ausseagull (talk) 15:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Because we're trying to make it less UK-centric, not more so. That means we have to deal with Breton sport - e.g. footballers like Le Guen, and things that slip underneath the English radar such as Gaelic games...--MacRusgail (talk) 10:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well put some other bits in then. Incidentally, what Gaelic games are played between "Celtic Nations"? Ausseagull (talk) 15:20, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


 * You're on wikipedia. Look it up. And don't add anything unless you know what you're talking about, or giving a balanced viewpoint.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:38, 4 July 2009 (UTC)


 * And where do I "look up" examples of Gaelic Games being played between Celtic Nations? A five nations shinty championship in Tarskavaig, perhaps? Do tell me. Ausseagull (talk) 10:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If you can't work that out, you shouldn't be adding these things. Anyway, as I've told you, your edits are completely anglocentric. Patrick Gordon is more important in the annals of world history, than a lot of the people you've listed, but I doubt you've ever heard of him. You also don't have a clue about Breton history. --MacRusgail (talk) 10:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Coordinator Election
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Template:Defunct Scottish football clubs etc etc
Thanks for your message. The template is in embryonic stage, and I hope to clean it up somewhat as I continue to add stubs of 19th century scottish clubs (whether geographically, chronologically, or both). I had indeed noticed the other template: I have a feeling it is still worth keeping a "league only" template, because there are so many defunct but insignificant clubs out there (again, particularly in the 19th century). Thats why I made a new template - though im not against a merger if consensus/logistics allows. If you have any thoughts or ideas on this, id love to hear them.  Macarism  Talk   21:18, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ive had a wee think about it, and ive done a revamp of the template - which will attempt to include former league clubs. Feel free to have a look here. I'll pad it out over time.  Macarism  Talk   22:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, this is good work. I have put main reply on template page.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

independence of england
unfortunately Scotland et al aren't colonies, but part of a union. Colonies were never part of the UK - Scotland is.  DJR  ( T ) 10:41, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So what's your point? My point is that England would be better off independent of Scotland, NI and Wales, and leave you lot to fend for yourselves without us subsidising everything you do.  Nothing you've said bears any semblance of relevance to that.  As for this "shared capital" - I don't know where that's come from.  There is one capital.  I live there.  DJR  ( T ) 20:56, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's just dawned on me that your second message was being sarcastic - my bad. With that in mind, I pretty much agree that, conventionally at least, that is the case.  However, there is nothing to stop a precedent being made!   DJR  ( T ) 14:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - July 2009
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Channel Islands info box
Sounds like a good idea. I've been concentrating on images recently, and have been taking pics of Jersey's rocks and islets (see contributions in Commons:Category:Islands of Jersey - and I also encouraged a colleague to contribute some pics of rocks of Sark so we've also got some decent pics of e.g. File:L'Etacq de Sercq et Jèrri 1.jpg, File:Les Burons, Sèr.jpg). Now we just need the articles to go with the pics! Man vyi (talk) 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I currently have Coysh on my bookshelves (not actually my own copy, but don't tell anyone or they'll be wanting it back...). Man vyi (talk) 16:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

IP Vandal
Looking into it now. Looks like a vandalism-only account, with chronic vandalism for over a year, much of it of a libelous or racist nature. Will be dealt with shortly. Slàn, -  Kathryn NicDhàna  ♫ ♦ ♫ 01:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Outer Hebrides names
There are numerous names that keep cropping up in the Outer Hebrides list e.g. Greanamul, Bearran, Eilean Dubh na Muice, Mas xxx, Leathann. If you could suggest a translation or two I'd be grateful. Also, I apologise that the accents are by no means properly sorted in the small rocks section. I have no frame of reference at all I'm afraid. Ben  Mac  Dui  22:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Terraforming -- American viewpoints?
As far as I know, it is a discussion not susceptible to regional differences. What makes you say it has an "American viewpoint"? What exactly is or even could be and "American viewpoint" on terraforming? Please take your concerns to the talk page of the article, and spell them out in detail, elsewise I will remove your globalize template in a day or so. Water.writ (talk) 02:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

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Idi Amin and the 1955 Lions
Sometimes here you come across a fact that you've never heard before and makes you sit up! Interesting one about Idi Amin!!--Bcp67 (talk) 19:10, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Definitely worth putting up for "Did you know" - seems exactly the right sort of fact for that feature - good luck with it. And good luck with the non-mainstream rugby union stuff - I know absolutely nothing about the game beyond the major & second-tier nations and I'd suspect most other people are in the same boat, its great to see stuff coming in about countries outside the traditonal areas.--Bcp67 (talk) 19:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Does the 1955 Lions article qualify on length of expansion? I'll admit I don't exactly understand what the fivefold expansion rules means; do you think it qualifies?--Bcp67 (talk) 19:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Amin

 * The other article qualifies but needs to be 1500 characters of prose. Then we can include it. I'm sorry the rules are are like this. They exclude genuinely good facts like yours and tend to mean only new and dull articles which are 1501 characters long get featured. Get back to me if you can expand the other article a little Francium12 (talk) 20:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Rugby union in Israel
I'm sorry that you didn't like the tags I placed in the article. I've gone ahead with the cleanup and started a discussion on the talk page. --Ronz (talk) 20:05, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for East Africa rugby union team

 * Well done, It'll be interesting to see the number of hits it gets. I've see mine get an appalling 200, to a healthy 13,000. FruitMonkey (talk) 14:49, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Belated congrats - would you believe I never got to see it on the main page! Well done anyway.--Bcp67 (talk) 16:45, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Rugby soccer
I'll be nominating this for deletion. It is obviously something made up by the original author.GordyB (talk) 15:04, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Rugby articles
Completly agree, websites are great for DYKs but not for longevity of proof. And lets face it, all information links to books for most historic events. I'm presently hitting the 1899 Lions tour, there's a couple of Scots in that one. FruitMonkey (talk) 23:21, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Help with Gaelic...
Hi, I was hoping you might be able to answer a question I've posed on the Battle of Dunnichen talk page regarding its Gaelic name. Cheers, Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 09:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you?
In the page Rugby union in Cornwall you appear to have made a Revision as of 16:01, 9 April 2009 by adding text and citations to the article. One of those citations is causing a cite error. Could you please go back and fill out the full source information for the reference tag ? Thanks. 75.69.0.58 (talk) 16:21, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Cornish in New Zealand
Under Cornish diaspora this now has a reference so perhaps a summary of it could go back into the Cornish people article. During the 1870s and 1880s, New Zealand had an immigrant drive spearheaded by Sir Julius Vogel of the New Zealand Government. At that time Vogel recognised that the young colony needed labourers, farmers and domestic servants to "bring the country in". Vogel initiated the Vogel Immigration Scheme (1871-1888) in which any New Zealand resident could nominate any British resident to immigrate to New Zealand for free if they qualified under the criteria. The criteria was for fit, healthy, young people with primarily labouring, farming or domestic servant skills. The recruiters were told to focus on Cornish and Scots who were known for their hard work ethic and were therefore deemed particularly ideal for colonial life. As the timing coincided with the downturn of the Cornish tin market, a large number of Cornish took up the offer. Many Cornish went to Auckland, Wellington or Lyttelton Christchurch), New Zealand. Many Scots went to Dunedin, New Zealand. Peak immigration under the scheme occurred between 1872 and 1874. Records of those who emigrated under the scheme still exist and can be searched at most large New Zealand public libraries."--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 18:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
 * "===New Zealand===

1888 British Isles
I've updated the image on the commons to give this info. As requested. Back row: Anderton, Kent, Bumby, Shrewsbury, Brooks, Lawler, Banks, Saul, Laing, Smith, Thomas, Mathers, Pinketh, Burnett, Seddon Front row: Speakman, Williams, Nolan, Stoddart, Haslam, Burnett, Eagles, Stuart, McShane

Hope this helps FruitMonkey (talk) 16:17, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I try to give as much love and attention to all those Victorian greats, but some are difficult to justify with so little known about them. I do have a book with a full head shot of Penketh (named Pinketh in the team photo) in bowtie and three-piece. But I'm never sure about the 60 year rule for images in books, even if the photo is from before 1923. FruitMonkey (talk) 16:38, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Disagreement
Which matters? -- Evertype·✆ 18:21, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I've disagreed with you over one or two things in the past, but can't remember specifically what they were. Anyway, I'm glad you support having the separate Cornish articles. I am having trouble persuading some of the people that the differences between them go beyond spelling. I hope you can provide some better evidence than me that this is the case.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Non- English place names
You may be interested in Requests for comment/Style issues re Talk:St. Johns, Arizona where "where someone has tagged the Navajo name of the town that was given with a "citation needed"-tag.". Ben  Mac  Dui  08:08, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Rugby in the Soviet Union
The problem is that the Victorians would refer to rugby, Gaelic, soccer, Aussie rules as "football" and thought of them as being essentially the same game with some minor rule changes, much like how we would think of Test cricket, limited overs cricket and Twenty-20 as being varients of the same sport. It wasn't until much later that soccer became known exclusively as "football" in the UK; and in fact there are even today some pockets where sports other than soccer would be referred to as "football".

Hence contemporary accounts are rather tricky because the text might refer to "football" and the translator or historian would naturally assume that this refers to soccer when in fact it could well have been a reference to rugby or another sport. This may account for why some sources list "rugby football" as having been played in the 19th century where others claim a later date.

I can well believe that rugby did predate soccer in Russia / the USSR as it tended to have been spread by expats and the British military whereas soccer tended not to have the backing of the British establishment; indeed rugby was a much bigger sport than soccer in the UK in the 19th century anyway. The rise of soccer and the decline of rugby came later with the RFU's refusal to allow professionalism and rugby only really retained some of its previous popularity in Wales (where they ignored the RFU's snobbery) and in the North of England (with the 1895 great schism).

I would imagine that rugby was adopted by the Russian military as this seems to be the pattern of development, for instance, Romanian rugby was primarily a military or police sport and rugby league in Russia today is mostly played by the Russian military.

Your article is a good one and it is hard to see how you could get it much better given that a) it is a minority sport b) the USSR no longer exists c) it is a non-Anglophone country. I don't think that there is undue emphasis on politics.GordyB (talk) 10:03, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Lausanne RFC
Hi there, I'm doing some research for a rugby article I'm about to write. Would you mind double checking a reference for me please? In Rugby union in Switzerland you note that Lausanne was one of the earliest clubs playing in 1869, could you please just check it doesn't refer to Lausanne Football Club (Dulwich) please? While doing research for my article ( includes Claude Ezoua), I came across the fact you'd done the Ivory Coast article as well, so hats off to you for such a breadth of work. Cheers Khu kri 18:19, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


 * It's quite possible this is the case, and thanks for pointing it out. Certainly there are clubs in Germany over a century old, but not heard too much about Switzerland. If there is a mistake, it's in The Complete Book of Rugby. It might be worth contacting (Swiss) Lausanne by email. --MacRusgail (talk) 14:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok thanks very much for the info. Lausanne RFC doesn't exist anymore, with three clubs currently Stade Lausanne, Albaladejo Lausanne & Lausanne University Club, I'll have a root around see if I can find anymore information. I'm going to tweak at some point as well the rugby in Switzerland article, as I think some of the information is slightly outdated, and on the Rugby Club CERN page I added information on the formation of the FSR, which could be added to Rugby union in Switzerland. Keep an eye, if anything doesn't fit in with the other rugby in country articles you've done just let me know. Thanks Khu kri 07:56, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Having a look at the articles, would you mind if I merged Rugby union in Switzerland with Swiss Rugby Federation? cheers Khu kri 08:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I'd rather not, I'm trying to make sure there are separate articles for all IRB member unions, and teams. (It also makes it difficult to link the unions template) I haven't looked at their website much, but I expect there must be some info in French/German/Italian or even Romansch (!) on the subject. I'd rather have stubs like that than most of the rubbish on Wikipedia, including the Shaun Jakelowitz article I got deleted (defamatory article about non-notable Maccabiah rugby player)


 * By the way, I meant to type the paragraph in question from Richard Bath's book. Very curious. He mentions rugby in Geneva being played in the late 19th century, and then goes on to say "Lausanne RFC" [sic] is pretty much as old as Blackheath. --MacRusgail (talk) 13:02, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * No probs at all. I know the coach and president of Stade Lausanne who would be the most likely contenders for this Lausanne RFC I'll have a word with them next time I see them see if they can shed any light on it. Their website only say they were in existance in 1972 when the FSR was formed. Alba was 1969, and LUC was 1971. Most of the rugby was in the French speaking part until Zurich came into being and Ticino on the italian side, can't think of any Romansch clubs though. I'm going to expand the FSR article anyway, including the four main areas, clubs etc, and I'll tweak your article. The main thing needs changing is that with the exception of Zurich and Wurenlos, most of the teams are predominantly expat, or nearby french/german in habitants. cheers Khu kri 15:25, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I think you're onto something here. I'll copy out the text for you, when I've got the book handy, it's pretty brief. I suspect the best thing to do here would be to mention Geneva, but leave some kind of query about Lausanne on the talk page. I haven't concentrated much on Swiss rugby at all, my main aim was to get the general level of European rugby articles up, and create them where they didn't exist. Like much of Continental Europe, rugby seems to have a pretty long history there, but hasn't taken root well. (I blame the fact that the English speaking rugby nations have been too introverted but that's another question)


 * You'll probably notice a Huw Richards ref at the bottom. I'm taking a break from it right now, while I'm writing the Soviet article, but I'm going to get round to putting in his refs to various articles at some point. I think there are a couple of mentions of Switzerland in there.


 * re The Ivory Coast - I think I've pretty much got everything I'm going to find on it now. It's definitely been the hardest RWC nation to find anything on. I don't think they've even got a website, and CAR's is fairly weak. Most IC references seem to be to how weak the team was and the tragic fate of Max Brito.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The Swiss Rugby Federation lists the following in the Lausanne region - * Albaladejo RC Lausanne * Alpine Rugby Yoga Association nr Chamoson * Ecole de Rugby Région Lausanne * Ecole Hôtelière Lausanne hotelier school * ER Aubonne * ER La Cote Nyon kids * ER Le Rosey showing up in winterthur ? * Lausanne Université Club Rugby * Ovalie Chablaisienne Monthey * RC Haute-Broye Oron-la-Ville * RC Nyon * RC Yverdon-les-Bains * Stade Lausanne RC

I've a hunch it's not the Yoga Association. Can you imagine what their rucks are like?--MacRusgail (talk) 15:36, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

If you need any specific information on Ivory Coast, I can ask Claude Ezoua, he might be able to find out for you should be able to get team info etc. I have edited your list above to show the locations. I'll work on it a bit tonight and add some info. Khu kri 16:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, not sure if you want to add it, but just for info on the Swiss article, the first rugby in the Geneva stadium (la Praille) was when we played in the 2005 Regions European Cup against Bourgogne see here. cheers Khu kri 21:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Llanelli books
Llanelli are the one big hole in my collection, and it's a major bugbear. Newport and Swansea have good web-sites, Cardiff has a very comprehensive history begun in the 1910s and recorded in major volumes, but Llanelli escapes me. The only book on Llanelli I own is Stradey Stories, which is a bit of a hotch-potch. I'll have a look around. FruitMonkey (talk) 17:26, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Right, I've managed to get my hands on a more comprehensive Llanelli tome. It does mention the tour, and I have the entire tour team and match results, but there is nothing untoward mentioned. FruitMonkey (talk) 21:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Hugh McLeod
If you're going to vacate an article you need to update the links. A better choice would have been to create the substub rugby article at Hugh McLeod (rugby player). I've moved it there and moved the politician back. –xeno<sup style="color:black;">talk 13:26, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Scots language help
Hello MacRusgail, hoping you can help with a Scots language query. I'm working on an article on the town walls of Edinburgh, and I wanted to put in James II's charter permitting the "King's Wall" to be built. Here it is, as reproduced in :

JAMES, by the grace of God King of Scottis, till all and sundry our lieges and subdictis to quhais knawledge thir our lettris sall cum, greting. Foralsmykle as we ar informit be oure well belovettis the Provest and Communite of Edynburgh, yat yai dreid the evil and skath of oure enemies of England, we have in favour of yame, and for the zele and affectioune that we have to the Provest and Communite of oure said Burgh, and for the comoune profit, grauntit to thaim full licence and leiff to fosse, bulwark, wall, toure, turate, and uther wais to strengthen oure foresaid Burgh in quhat maner of wise or degree that beis sene maste spedefule to thame. Given under oure Grete Seale at Strivelyn the last day of Aprile, and of oure regne the thretene yhere, anno 1450.

Now, I know it doesn't need "translation" as such, but someone will stumble over things like "foralsmykle" and "grauntit" and the like, so here is what I came up with (without the first sentence, which is less relevant):

Forasmuch as we are informed by our well beloved Provost and Community of Edinburgh, that they dread the evil and harm of our enemies of England, we have in favour of them, and for the zeal and affection that we have for the Provost and Community of our said Burgh, and for the common profit, granted to them full licence and leave to fosse, bulwark, wall, tower, turret, and other ways to strengthen our foresaid Burgh in what manner of ways or degree that be seen most speedful to them. Given under our Great Seal at Stirling the last day of April, and of our reign the thirteenth year, AD 1450.

I might put one in the article text and the other in a footnote, or something like that. Would you have a moment to comment on/correct my translation? Specifically, how would one translate "skath" here; I believe "harm" would do, but it doesn't sound right in this context? Any advice gratefully received! Many thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 16:21, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reference, injury may well work better than harm: "they dread the evil and injury of our enemies of England". Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 15:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Welsh devolution referendum, 1979
Hi MacRusgail, I'd seen the category changes, to Welsh devolution referendum, 1979 and others, and disliked both the process and the outcome - though not enough to do any thing about it. Do you think it's worth kicking off about, or is it just one of those things we have to live with? Daicaregos (talk) 08:42, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Future Rugby World Cups


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African rugby history
Thanks for the rugby balls thing - fascinating stuff!--Bcp67 (talk) 20:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

The Ouse
You reverted my edit with a smart comment. The user who inserted the ref. is the claimed author of the "work". I can find no trace of it in the ISBN catalogue, as I can find no trace of other "works" the user cites on other pages.. I'm in the process of assembling a "sock puppet" list for this user, and I'm currently up to a total of over 30 accounts he's used over the last 5 years, of which 5 of are current. I'd be grateful if you would leave any such edits of mine in place. Rambler24 (talk) 17:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, there is a problem, but I haven't quite got the full extent of it yet. User Hadrianheugh (or one of his several sock puppets) has created a number of stubs on the Scottish islands, mostly forOrkney mainland, but he's been spreading his net wider over the last few weeks. His clear aim is to get his name (C.M Hogan or C.Michael Hogan) wide exposure on Wikipedia. He creates a few stubs on trivial sites, geographical features, small villages etc. which contain nothing of real value, then links them with wikilinks and "See also" tags, then edits existing pages to link to them in the same way. All his stubs will have his name in a valid ref, to one of his web-pages, or as in this case, to a non-existent book.

His latest wheeze to get his name on pages is to add images to Geograph, which gets his name a credit there, then upload to Wikipedia (ignoring the directive to upload to Commons instead, which he's been told about). He then claims Geograph insists on a contributor credit wherever the image is used, whereas they only request a credit on the Wiki image page itself. He's inserted a few of these, quite validly in most cases, in existing pages, though including his name as a credit, and inserted far more in his stubs. It's been taking a bit of work to track him down, but I've just discovered the Toolserver link on the bottom of contrb, pages, and that makes the job easier. His activities go a lot wider than just Scotland and the islands. User Finavon (contribs) has removed several of his image credits. A Google site search for his name on Wikipedia is currently producing over 3000 hits.

A couple of typical examples: Nerabus Muasdale Finstown (with a link to a Geograph image containing his name) Sands of Evie

His previous activities include creating a similar set of trivial stubs and minor articles for the Stonehaven/Aberdeen area, and he's quietly added links into the Scottish Highlands page (with web-link) along with the "Historical crossings" section on that page, which links to several of his "creations". He also uses and often inserts wikilinks for such words as beach, inlet, turf, church, changes any AD or BC dates to AD or BC etc.

He added to the now split-off List of towns and villages in the Scottish Highlands for that area, even though it's not considered part of the highlands. he raised that on the talk page, got no response, and began adding to the lists. I'm preparing a list of his trivia (which amounts to both vandalism and fraud in my view) and will post it on the Scottish Island discussion board as you request. Rambler24 (talk) 22:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm surprised you've named Hadrianheugh. I've found most of his edits to be useful. Wikilinks for beach etc - well that's a trivial matter, and I've no problem with that. Nor do I have an issue with him using his own images off Geograph - that at least means that we have good copyright permission. I have tried looking for his books in the Edinburgh library catalogue without success. I'd suggest that his contributions are not wholly negative, and are actually often positive, but if there is an element of self-promotion, then it must be dealt with.


 * By the way, quite a lot of the area around Stonehaven and Aberdeen IS part of the Highlands. Notably around Stonehaven, there is only a thin coastal strip running from Dundee to Aberdeen which is Lowland. With Aberdeen, if you start getting beyond Alford, you're in the Highlands, as is Braemar. A lot of Aberdeenshire is actually Highland. The "Highland Region/Council Area" has confused things, and only covers a fraction of the Highlands - Argyll and Highland Perthshire for example are not included in it. They've also put a sign up in Drumochter Pass saying "Welcome to the Highlands", when in fact they really start near Dunkeld much further south. The 1970s Highland Region boundaries really rewrote history - I notice they still confuses wikipedia editors on a regular basis.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:22, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The problem isn't that he's using his own images, I didn't say that, the problem is he's aiming at getting his name onto Wiki pages as often as possible. His activities stretch far beyond Scotland and the islands; Hadrian's Wall, West Country, Wales, natural history, ancient history, he's recently moved on to Ireland. A characteristic of his own pages, and many of those he's edited is the name C.Michael Hogan - on web links, images, in the text "according to Hogan" or "Tom, Dick Harry and Hogan postulate...", or "Hogan, Tom, Dick, Harry et al agree that". One of his most outrageous claims is on the Eassie stone page. It takes a real expert to decipher and date a Pictish stone, he seems to have managed it himself. Note how the picture's been cropped -it's an attempt to cut out the Historic Scotland display panels on the wall behind the stone - complete with analysis and date. On his web-page there's a landscape-format pic of the top of the stone, with a convoluted explanation why he couldn't get it all in the shot. Other people manage fine, as Google Images can demonstrate.


 * Links to his "Lumina Technologies" site are to a list of abstracts - only one page is linked from there. He cites a number of books published by Lumina Press, Aberdeen. It's a self-publishing site, where you can submit the text of a book and pay to have copies printed. Nothing wrong with that, but there's no trace there of the books they're supposed to have printed for him, and even if printed, it doesn't make them accessible to us Wikipedians or anyone else.


 * I've seen that some of his work has real merit, especially on ancient history and natural history, but the Hogan name creeps in frequently. I reverted two of his edits to pages (not to do with the UK) where he'd inserted a new section "Flora and fauna" when the articles had already extensive sections covering this, and the insertion had no merit at all, usually the phrase "The local area vicinity has many diverse flora and fauna, for example..". then a wikilink to one of his own or edited pages and the obligatory link to a web-page of his. At this point all his accounts went cold. A few users have tackled him on his talk page(s) about this sort of activity, but he's not replied (I checked the other user's talk pages for a possible response). He's edited several talk pages to remove such challenges, but of course the page history reveals all. If only he had stuck to what he knows about, and not take any and all possible measures to get his name aired, I wouldn't have an issue at all. Most of his creations are mere stubs with no apparent purpose than to display his name and link to other stubs or articles. He created dozens of stubs for the Hadrian's Wall area, for villages (some of only a few houses, one is a farm), loughs and roads, very few with anything about the place itself, but all including an "Early history" section with the same text, just the name of the place changed. There's a good example here  - I edited out the section, and a useless ref. to "Philip's Motorist's Atlas: 2004, Octopus Publishing Group, London, England" with no page or grid reference. The creator is another of his puppet IDs.   I can and will provide plenty of other examples soon, both for project teams and a sock-puppet investigation. Rambler24 (talk) 19:11, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Andreaea regularis
Hi. I have removed the "hoax" tag you put on this article. A good way to check on something like this is to search Google Scholar, and in this case that shows that there really is such an antarctic moss. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:43, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * ...and the same for Andreaea gainii, Dicranoweisia crispula and Didymodon gelidus. In fact I find these articles were created four days ago as part of this experiment, and Fergus MacTroll was a deliberately suspicious username created for the purpose by the veteran editor Durova, though the same day after the experiment was over an explanation was added to Mactroll's user page. Don't be discouraged from adding if you have grounds for suspicion, though - it will bring investigation, real hoaxes (of which there are all too many, and which IMO are very damaging to Wikipedia) will be deleted, and if the article turns out genuine the tag is removed and no harm done. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:16, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

about Bahá'í Faith in Scotland
When you say 'Only one convert? Not much to boast about...)' that certainly true. The point isn't so much to count each person. However the sentence continues noting the assembly. An assembly requires 9 people at least in a civili district to elect an assembly. So in a couple years they when from 1 to 9.Smkolins (talk) 16:24, 17 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The Bahais are a tiny minority in Scotland. I used to know two of them. One's of them has emigrated from Scotland, the other's lapsed (I don't think the Bahais look upon open fornication kindly), and I don't think either of them raised their children as Bahai. And I suppose I'm only a link away from their parents. Four people - that almost works out as 1% of the Scottish Bahai population in 2001! I've not much against the Bahais, I'm just pretty apathetic towards the religion, and not taken with what I've read about it too... They're not an important part of Scotland's religious make up and I really started the article for the sake of completeness. I'm going to get round to articles on Mormonism, JWs etc in Scotland some time, I think they probably claim bigger memberships, but the material's harder to get hold of.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

"Latter day" celts :)
Just a quick note to say that I think we got off on a bad foot on the Modern Celts article. So you know, I certainly amn't "anti" Celtism. The heart of the matter is that I think the subject would be better treated (and the page attract less criticism) if there was just one article.

I don't see the substantial difference between the two and I think others who come to the page do either. "Celtic nations" is a more established and respected concept so "Modern Celts" I think comes out worst for the two.

That's not to say that I think a merged article has to be at Celtic nations. If a better title can be thought of then I'd be for it. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 10:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year
Keep up the good work on the old rugby articles, look forward to working with you in the new year. FruitMonkey (talk) 23:16, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Pan-Celticism
I've put a lot of time and effort into tiding, referencing ,adding content, removing POV and peacock terms in this article, no admin is going to support your whole sale reverting of these changes. Edit the article or discuss on the talk page but your current actions are not acceptable Gnevin (talk) 19:09, 22 January 2010 (UTC)


 * You are pushing a personal agenda. It's obvious. You aren't taking other folk's opinions into account at all. If you think the British Council is a Pan-Celtic organisation you are waaay off course.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not pushing an agenda, no other user has offered up an opinion to take into account apart from the flag issue . I've added references and related content to the article. I never claimed the British Council/BBC was a Pan-Celtic organisation just an organisation who provided a definition of Pan-Celticism. All the while I'm improving the article, you've added nothing to the article, the article is a very poor state it would be better if we could work together as I've suggested by put the flag issue on the back burner . P.S don't be surprised when this happens Gnevin (talk) 17:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Cardiff Blues / Cardiff RFC
MacRusgail, I will be changing back all changes to the old Lions tours where the Cardiff RFC and Newport RFC teams have been changed to Cardiff Blues or Newport Dragons. These players never played for the Blues or the Dragons and the teams did not exist at the time. FruitMonkey (talk) 21:06, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

List of expressions related to death
Please be WP:BOLD and add them!  Kayau  Odyssey  HUCK FINN   to the lighthouse  BACK FROM EXAMS 11:59, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Lions tours
Hi there - I haven't been doing much rugby union editing lately (fascinated by the continual Irish flag debate but with no interest in getting involved!) but I've noticed a couple of edits on (for example), the 1924 British Lions tour to South Africa where you've added a country to Ian Smith and Roy Muir Kinnear. Most of the books I've used as references leave the countries off for players who weren't capped by a country at the time they toured. Maybe we could put a note to that effect against the players? What do you think? --Bcp67 (talk) 06:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh the flag thing is doing my head in. :( I thought it was over and done with! Anyway, regarding the caps, I have a list of uncapped Scottish players which includes CG Timms, Hosack, WA Robertson, and most of the original British Isles team. I don't see Smith and Kinnear amongst them, but that may be for the simple reason that they were capped later. (The list isn't clear on that score, whether they were never capped, or just uncapped at the time...) I hope to have articles on all Scottish players for the Lions within the next week or so - some of them a bit basic admittedly. Have to say I'm not big into the Lions, but most of the folk who've played for them (bar the early ones) are significant Scottish players. At some point in the future, we may be able to have an entry for every single Scotland cap...--MacRusgail (talk) 11:38, 1 February 2010 (UTC) p.s. By the way, it might be interesting to note on Welsh and Kinnear's entries on the tours that they both ended up in rugby league.
 * Remembered you weren't a huge fan of the Lions concept but fair play to you for sticking with it and trying to improve the coverage - I was working back through the years and trying to do at least a stub for every tourist (on the grounds that, as you say, that had achieved some significance in the game) but stalled with the 1966 tour and haven't picked it up since. Both Smith and Kinnear were uncapped at the time of their Lions tour but capped subsquently by Scotland. I'll stick a note on the 1924 article and tell me what you think. On the flag issue, well I think it's putting me off the RU project! Keep up the good work! --Bcp67 (talk) 22:13, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Moving Rugby Player to Rugby Union
Please could you not move (Rugby player) articles to (Rugby union) as it is incorrect and against WikiPedia standards. FruitMonkey (talk)


 * IMHO, "rugby player" isn't suitable, except perhaps for dual-code players, or pre-schism ones. I think adding "player" makes the names clunky. I'm mainly trying to standardise the Scottish articles just now.--MacRusgail (talk) 21:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It is against WikiPedia standards. Only the American sports articles have gone down this route. British sports avoid this labelling as it does not reflect the persons profession. FruitMonkey (talk) 21:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that "rugby (player)" on its own is not suitable for anyone but people who have played both codes. But "rugby union (player)" on the other hand is very clumsy. The main thing I'm doing here is making sure that they can all be reached through the same links. It saves having to second guess the links on other articles.--MacRusgail (talk) 21:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It's not a point as to whether it's clumsy or not, it's a matter of if it's correct or not. Multiple rugby articles were alreasy hijacked by a sock puppet in the past and switched to (Rugby union) to be changed back. This has been discussed on the Project page in the past. Could you bring your views there, as last occasion there was no consensus. FruitMonkey (talk) 21:13, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The main point is getting the links, rather than the renaming. I'm going to be creating 100+ rugby articles in the near future, and I keep on getting red links for articles which exist, but don't have the appropriate redirects. It's time consuming to hunt them down. I don't really mind what the articles are called just so long as "X (rugby union)" links back to them all.--MacRusgail (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Then you could set up redirect pages under X (rugby union). That would solve the problem. Also where are all these red links to articles that exist? Which pages are the main culprits?FruitMonkey (talk) 21:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm having trouble with the names of some of the new articles. What do you think this one should be called? -> Donald Cameron (Scottish rugby union) (The other DC is an All Black). Thanks.

--MacRusgail (talk) 21:42, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * It appears that your New Zealander was best known as Don Cameron, so maybe it would be better to rename him. But with an article that states Donald Cameron (Scottish rugby union), could it not be confused that he is an administrator of the SRU and not a Scottish rugby union centre. It's a continual problem in sport, and many articles then differentiate through position or date of birth. There are some international Welsh Rugby players who share their names with three or four other team mates. There are two David Jones both forwards who played for Wales, and were both born in 1881, that's a right pain.FruitMonkey (talk) 21:55, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Aye, the Welsh, a people who love their rugby, but a tad short in the surname department! --MacRusgail (talk) 15:14, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Irish and Scottish cricketers
Hi. This edit here among others, does not seem right to me. I have raised it for further discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket to see if some consensus can be found. Your thoughts would be welcome. -- Mattinbgn\talk 19:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Tag
Because your article needs some more reliable sources thats why i have tagged your article, if you put more references to your article then the visitors will have more trust on your article's content and your article will be trustful, your articles needs to be expanded so kindly add some more useful content.

Nabil rais2008 (talk) 15:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Call for consensus/conclusion to current Ireland rugby union team icon
Hello, I am contacting you because you have been an active participant in the recent discussion on icon to be used for Ireland rugby union. I have tried to summarise the many strands and come to a conclusion based on what I perceive the consensus to be in this section - Summary of Ireland Flag discussion and suggested consensus conclusion. To move the issue to a conclusion I am asking all participants who have signed the discussion to read my summary and comment on the validity of the approach I have advocated, before the issue goes cold. I am keen that the enormous efforts of all contributors results in a tangible conclusion on this occasion.Kwib (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

New rugby union articles
Hi there, nice work on creating a number of new articles recently, I just have a couple of pointers. As discussed further up your talk page, (rugby union) is not the correct way to disambiguate articles, (rugby player) should be used as it conforms to Wikipedia standards. Also, when you use the nrut template, you should add subst: before it, like this: Name of team. This helps the pages to load quicker as templates are substituted into the text rather than reloaded each time the page is viewed. Thanks, -- Big  Dom  18:11, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

French
Are you intending to finish translating all those french articles you created?--<font color="Blue">Jac <font color="Green">16888 Talk 13:15, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I have done some translation of parts. However I just feel its a bit rude to create a lot of french articles, half translate them then leave the rest for someone else to do--<font color="Blue">Jac <font color="Green">16888 Talk 14:53, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The under construction tag is used to indicate that an article is undergoing a short period of intense editing, not that its unfinished. Yes wikipedia is a collaborative effort, but at the same time its somewhat annoying for the people at WP:PNT when someone does half a job then expects us to do the rest, you're right it is very tedious. If you want to write an article which is not ready you should do so in your userspace until it is--<font color="Blue">Jac <font color="Green">16888 Talk 21:50, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Help needed
I've just knocked up an article on Andrew Balfour, but there is some confusion in one of his obits regarding him being the President of either London Scottish or the SRU. As our Scottish Rugby expert do you have a list of Presidents of either orginisations to clear this up. Cheers FruitMonkey (talk) 20:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Hugh Duffy
I see you've added Hugh Duffy (rugby) here as a Scottish DCI. Nothing in his article suggests that he was ever a Rugby League international. If so could you add the rep details to his article and info-box. Cheers - <font style="color:black;background:white;">Sticks <font style="color:white;background:red;">66 11:56, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Ditto for James McLaren. Is there evidence that he played internationally in RL ?- <font style="color:black;background:white;">Sticks <font style="color:white;background:red;">66 12:20, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely yes, that appearances for Other Nats count as International caps and it's such appearances for Trevor Allan and Jack Rhapps that make them DCIs. Whilst not DCIs such appearances by Harry Bath and Brian Bevan appear in their article infobox as Nat Rep appearances and User:Jeff79 has done lots of edit work in this area on many other rep players. What I need for Hugh Duffy is the date of his Other Nat appearance. Can you put it in his infobox ? BTW have you considered using this type of infobox for dual-coders. It separates the RU and RL sections and allows club and rep sections for each. Rgds - <font style="color:black;background:white;">Sticks <font style="color:white;background:red;">66 11:01, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

List of Scottish rugby union players/List of Scotland national rugby union players
I agree with your suggestion. I had just made the change to include links from one to the other in fact at the top of the page...perhaps also a "Related articles" section would help. By the way, thank you for your earlier encouraging remarks. It really does appear that the gaps in rugby union coverage are starting to fill due to what appears to be a more concerted effort between a number of us.Kwib (talk) 14:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Members of the European Greens - European Free Alliance
I have nominated members of the european greens - european free alliance for merging into european greens–european free alliance. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. PanchoS (talk) 03:08, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Rugby tens
In your article (and I think your dominant contribution makes it still yours) on Rugby tens, you say the premier tournament is the Cobra Sevens. But surely that should be the Cobra Tens, niet? Earthlyreason (talk) 15:33, 3 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Well spotted. I have corrected it, thanks.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Falkland Islands English
Hi mate, I replied to your concern raised here, I'd appreciate your input re: my proposal. <font color="Black">Ryan <font color="CornflowerBlue">4314   (talk) 18:43, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Ninian Finlay
I'm glad to see you created this article. Ninian Finlay was my great-grandfather: I've added one detail under "family", which was that he was also the brother of Robert Finlay, 1st Viscount Finlay. I have other anecdotal family information but am wary of adding too much without WP-acceptable sources. I think there was at least one other Finlay brother, Gardyne (also the name of NF's youngest son), who played for Scotland at the same time as Ninian: I believe he (Gardyne) is mentioned in Philipps's "The Story of Scottish Rugby" (of which a copy is currently at my late mother's house).

Ninian was married fairly late (about 36) to Fordyce Aimee Warden, known as "Dycie". They had four children: Ida (my maternal grandmother), born 11 June 1898, died 1984, Anne (1900-1964), Robert (1902?-1970-something) and Gardyne (1904-1989). Both Robert (known as Rob or "Pobbo") and Gardyne went to Eton, probably at least part-funded by help from "Uncle Robert". Gardyne was a contemporary there of George Orwell, and appears in the photo on the cover of The Unknown Orwell by Peter Stansky and William Abrahams (front row, left, arms across knees). Ninian, and other Finalys, is mentioned in David Thomson's Nairn in Darkness and Light. (Thomson was another relative.)

As the article says, Ninian became a WS in later life, and apparently disliked being reminded of his youthful fame as a rugby player. In old age he suffered from severe depression.

I have some photos in the family vaults of him at various ages, which I could perhaps add to the article. I used to have his cap, but it seems to have been lost over the years. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 07:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your reply. I wasn't particularly thinking of including the above in the article, it was really just for your interest. I'll have a look in "The Story of Scottish Rugby" when I can, as I know there are a couple of good quotes about NF in there (something about dragging himself over the goal line with six Englishmen hanging on to him), and also information about the other brothers. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 15:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Incubation graduate
Congrats! --ThaddeusB (talk) 03:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Clarrie Wallach
HeyMac, love this article you've done and this area is right up my alley (from an Australian perspective at least). I've just fleshed out an article on Clarrie Wallach. As you can see from my notes on the talk page I have found some conflicting accounts of the date (and place) of his death. You referred in the article to a date of death of 22 April 1918. Can I ask where you got that from ? Obviously like me you've discounted the April 1915 date on www.scrum.com ?? Keen to know what you've got re 22/4/18 - <font style="color:black;background:white;">Sticks <font style="color:white;background:red;">66 12:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thx for the War Graves ref. Brilliant. It (& Neville Wallach's) confirms they were brothers, both captains and both winners of the military cross, both rugby players, killed within a week of each other on the Western Front. There were in fact four more Wallach brothers who all saw action in WWI. Amazing story and I'll try do them justice in an article. Cheers- <font style="color:black;background:white;">Sticks <font style="color:white;background:red;">66 21:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Portknockie
No problem, I'll keep an eye on it. We could consider having the article semiprotected if you think the vandalism is regular enough to warrant it. ALI nom nom 16:57, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

RE: Maccabiah teams
I understand what you mean. I myself was somewhat reluctant to add them to that section at first, exactly for the reason you have stated. I think it's a shame, however, to see the Maccabiah teams entirely out of the "national" section of all the templates. It strikes me as slightly misleading; aren't they national teams, after all? Don't they compete on an international basis representing their own countries? Here's an idea that, I believe, addresses both your and my concerns. The Maccabiah teams are included into the "national" sections, with a small text within parentheses after their names which clarifies that they are not selected by the rugby unions of each country, just like this: (not chosen by the national rugby union). Tell me what you think. By the way, thanks for the welcoming message, I appreciate it. :-) --190.19.24.98 (talk) 03:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Bahrain national rugby union team (sevens)
Hello Mac. I have fixed my wrongful move on the above mentioned article, which I carried out in February. Do let me know if there are any further negativities. Thanks. Regards. Rehman(+) 02:46, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Mais non!
En vacance, je visite Template:WWI French rugby fatalities. Le (la?) category n'est pas le plus correct. Visite-tu Category:Islands of Scotland navigational boxes aussi, s'il vous plait. M. Ben   Mac  Dui  14:17, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

User:MacRusgail/Rugby union in the German Democratic Republic
Hi mate, I've removed the categories from User:MacRusgail/Rugby union in the German Democratic Republic as I don't think the article should be categorised until you are ready to move it into the main space. Calistemon (talk) 06:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you planning to do any more work on this article? Do you mind if I contribute? I've added a East Germany section to German rugby union championship and found a fair bit of info on the Stahl Hennigsdorf Rugby website to enlarge your article, I think. Calistemon (talk) 06:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Categories
First off, I'm curious about Bennett: except for a category that was removed after deletion at WP:CFD, every category this article has ever been in is still in existence. Are you referring to this category, Category:English rugby union footballers? As far as the deletion issue — this is a flaw of the technical nature of categories that (as far as I know) can't really be helped. Since there's no way to watch articles in categories, there's no real way to ensure that the category hasn't been emptied out of process. My only suggestion is to watch the articles individually and to recreate a category that was deleted because it was wrongly emptied. Please remember that the repost CSD only refers to pages deleted in a deletion discussion — if you have a page that should go in a category that was speedy deleted because it was empty, there's no reason for you not to recreate the category. Nyttend (talk) 16:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I really don't know how a safeguard could be operated. There's no doubt that it would be helpful, but short of looking through articles to attempt to find people who should be in the category, I don't know how we could do it.  In some cases, we can look at the tagger's contribution history, but that wouldn't have worked here — the category was tagged as empty along with a wide range of other categories; it appears that the tagger had run some sort of database query and found a large number of empty categories.  Nyttend (talk) 22:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

List of freshwater islands in Scotland
Now nominated as an FLC. Ben  Mac  Dui  12:38, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Gisborne Gordon
Hello, I was in the processing of doing this having read about him in the Irish Times earlier this week, when I found that you had already embarked on the same. Great minds think alike! I was hoping to create a new article for WP:DYK to feature on the mainpage. Would you be interested in combining articles, moving it into mainspace and nominating it? <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 10:37, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeh thats grand, We need to try and get it up to 1500 characters for DYK, so thats the target I guess. I've also been looking for images to brighten it up, can't find any of him but maybe an old image of a rugby team of the era? <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 11:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I see that there now. Do you want me to tie it all in or do you want to work on it? <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 14:10, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

<= Ok, I've merged a lot of the stuff there now, also got some more family stuff. Have a look and feel free to add/delete/change what ever. Still needs a little bit more work but its getting there. <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 13:45, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've moved it into mainspace now and nominated at DYK. Thanks for letting me run with it and for all the assistance <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 19:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Couldn't have done it without you! I didn't have enough info to make a big enough article and you had it all researched before I ever thought of it! If you'd be up for it, perhaps we could collaborate on other rugby union articles in the future? <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 21:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

<= That actually sounds fascinating, has the making of a very interesting article. I have two in mind, one that I have in my work area at the moment on front row techniques, thinking of titling it the dark arts, just having difficulty finding references from reliable sources. (I'm a hooker/backrow, so its close to my heart!) The other I have in mind is retirement of professional Rugby players, read a fascinating report about amount that had careers shortened through injury and the aftermath statistics about how many were unable to play ever again at any level were a bit disturbing. <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥

Other stuff
Hello, started work on User:GainLine/Scrum machine if you want to have a look at it. <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 15:32, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Ireland flag discussion
I get it, I really , really do get it. You objected to the Irish flags discussion while it was happening. You made your feelings well known that you thought it was pointless discussion and for a long time it seemed like it was. I can understand this, what I don't understand is your constant need to raise this discussion every time our paths cross when it's entirly not relevant such as at Pan-Celticism and Arabian Gulf rugby union team. I admire you work and dedication in the field of Rugby union but your like a dog with a bone. You leave a message on my talk page asking for help and I go to the article only to find you've insulted me. I leave a message at WP:RU and instead of being helpful or ignoring me ,you think owe I shall have a other pop here. I respectfully ask you move on and and we work together or you ignore me and stop insulting and my efforts here because I am getting extremely tired of you lack of civility Gnevin (talk) 23:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


 * It is relevant, and you made the rest of us suffer it for a long time. I am still curious as to exactly what your motivation was, and suspect it was personal and political. I notice that you are starting it up again - hence the Sisyphus remark. --MacRusgail (talk) 17:16, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Your pathetic Gnevin (talk) 23:01, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. So why did you get so obsessed with it again? You never answered that one did you? Something political or religious you don't want to tell us? --MacRusgail (talk) 23:11, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Your really want to know . I'm a Republican loyalist . Has it here occurred to you that this agenda is in your head only ? I come here asking to work together but you can't get over your self to accept my offer. Stay away from me please . Don't post on my talk page and don't reply to my posts on WP:RU. Thanks Gnevin (talk) 23:16, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, here's what I don't get. You pursued this issue in a "dedicated" manner, but you've devoted precisely zilch to the South African flag issue, AFAIK. The Irish flag issue is insoluble, since it's will be guaranteed not to please everyone, and there are (c) issues with the IRFU logo. Rugby is one of the few things which has managed to rise above some of the grubbier aspects of Irish politics (with some notable exceptions) and I don't feel that it should pander to them.

My main gripe is the time and space it took, which I felt could have been devoted to better causes, and that you are wasting your talents on stuff like that. I think the rugby coverage on Wikipedia is still patchy, although it's getting there.--MacRusgail (talk) 23:25, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no SA flag issue the correct flag is used or should be, as per the CON at WP:RU. Hence no need to discuss it Gnevin (talk) 23:36, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * The SA flag issue is that the current one only dates back to 1994. SA has also used three others in its rugby playing history, notably this one between 1928-94. --MacRusgail (talk) 23:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I am aware SA has had many flags. Show me an article where the incorrect flag is used. As I can't find one Gnevin (talk) 23:45, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * History of rugby union matches between Argentina and South Africa, Overseas Unions rugby union team, President's Overseas XV and there will be others. That's what I could find in five minutes. (Info correct at time of posting.) --MacRusgail (talk) 09:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:SOFIXIT Gnevin (talk) 10:40, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Can you have a look at Wikipedia_talk:RU. Thanks Gnevin (talk) 11:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Abuse Response - more information requested
Hello, I have made a few comments on the recent case you filed. Could you go ahead and answer them there? It would help a lot. Thanks. <font color="#3377AA">Netalarm <font color="#99AA00">poke  04:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

RU in GDR
Sorry, I havn't got anything on the other former countries. All I could come up with on East Germany is from club websites, not much, but it should be enough to get the article a bit further. I will add what I can find in the next couple of days. Calistemon (talk) 10:15, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Gisborne Gordon
The DYK project (nominate) 06:03, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * no worries dude, you deserved it! <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 20:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
~ mazca  talk 20:50, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Dealing with vandalism
Hello again. I did what you asked but I just want to comment about your message to that IP. Even if this is a long term abuse case, writing some words in CAPITAL letters only 1. gives them the attention and negative reaction they are looking for and 2. encourages them to continue vandalizing or 3. scares them away if they believe they are doing something constructive. It is always best to start at level 1 or 2, or 4im depending on the severity and leave a note asking for an explanation. Such edits like that can, in a way, lie within the "Assume good faith" policy. – Tommy 2010 11:37, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Stuart Adamson
Apologies, I had missed the part in the "final years" section where country music was mentioned. --JD554 (talk) 06:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * No problem. :) --MacRusgail (talk) 09:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Your changes to categories
By changing Category:New Zealand Māori people to Category:New Zealand Māori rugby union team players for many Kiwi rugby players -- such as Carlos Spencer, Zinzan Brooke and Troy Flavell etc -- you have removed many Māori people from the only category that collates them together. Do you want to fix? Moriori (talk) 00:14, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

My Barnstar (Thanks)
Thanks for the Barnstar, it's nice to be recognised, especially as I wouldn't really class myself as a Wikipedian. Am I meant to do anything with it by the way, or just leave it where it is and be happy? :-) Mbwa mwitu (talk) 06:53, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, would you be so kind as to give us support!
Hello, I hope you're doing fine and I sincerely apologize for this intrusion. I've just read your profile and saw that you're an enthusiastic Scotsman (I had the pleasure to be in Edinburgh not that long ago and really appreciated the people and the place! Beautiful and really nice!), so I guess that being Scottish helps you understand what are a minorized language and culture and maybe I am not bothering you and you will help us... I'm part of an association "Amical de la Viquipèdia" which is trying to get some recognition as a Catalan Chapter but this hasn't been approved up to that moment. We would appreciate your support, visible if you stick this on your first page: Wikimedia CAT. Supporting us will be like giving equal opportunity to minorized languages and cultures in the future! Thanks again, wishing you a great summer, take care! Keep on preserving your great culture, country and language! Slán agat (sorry I don't know it in Scottish Gaelic!) Capsot (talk) 20:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

SPRA
Hello again. I'm in the process of creating and populating a new category. I've Wales and Ireland done so far, next stop Australia. I' was planning on doing home nations firstly but I seem to be drawing a blank on your compatriots body. I know its called SPRA but I'm drawing a blank. Interested in becoming involved or pointing me in the right direction? <font face="jokerman" color="navy">G ain  Line    ♠  ♥ 16:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)  ‎

Rugby portal
Hi MacRusgail, I have noticed that you edit Portal:Rugby and expect that you will want to take part in this discussion: Portal talk:Rugby. Thanks, <font style="color:#999;background:#F5FFFA">LunarLander  <font color="#CC6600">// <font style="color:#999;background:#F5FFFA">talk  <font color="#CC6600">// 01:10, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

List of Celtic Choirs
Hello MacRusgail

I appreciate the care you have given to the Modern Celts page :)

Could you please review my first new Wikipedia page List of Celtic Choirs.

Any feedback you have would be appreciated.

It is only a start and designed to attract more attention (just as the List of celtic festivals has since I organised it by country and added some I knew of myself. Others are now adding their contributions.

Best Regards JembanaJembana (talk) 02:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks MacRusgail - that's great :)Jembana (talk) 14:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

There are literally dozens of them, I couldn't tell you them all. It's not a part of Gaeldom I have much to do with. There are a good many more in Wales too.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed and some performances are pack out - people will add over time. Thanks again.Jembana (talk) 22:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer
Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a a two-month trial at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).

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Any chance
That you would be open to discussing this off-wiki? If so, you can add email access to your wikipedia page (I can guide you through that, if you like). I think this may be a conversation most easily had entre nous. (If not, of course we can always have it here). Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:27, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds good.--Epeefleche (talk) 22:40, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

New Zealand Māori cricket team
You have added Jesse Ryder and Peter McGlashan to the category Category:New Zealand Māori cricket team players, yet neither of there profiles seems to mention them playing for the New Zealand Māori cricket team - does such a team even exist? Mattlore (talk) 04:35, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes there is such a team, but it is fairly recent in origin, and plays less often than the two rugby equivalents.--MacRusgail (talk) 09:11, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

rose street
how come you changed my edit on Rose street?

My POV is as a resident. I see how the street is every day, not just a couple of hours here and there. Yes, it seems like a pub street on friday and saturday night - but that isn't the truth.

Really, it's a business district. It's a shopping street. It's a residential area. That's not complicated.

like, on my section Frederick to Castle there are about 70 flats. like, a hundred, hundred fift residents. Okay, okay, there are four hundred drunks down in the night club on Saturday night, sure. That is reflected in the article, but it is also a living area.

Also, it wasn't servants access, that was on the lanes. The buildings on rose street were working men's houses. I KNOW. I have the title deeds. In 1790 the shop down stairs was a butchers and the upstairs wwas servants quarters. This isn't complicated.

I understand you may have a POV, but this is supposed to be NPOV. No?

If tourists and drunks read the page, I really want them to know that we LIVE here, we SLEEP here. It's not Budweiser Disney land. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.131.213 (talk) 16:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Rugby Union sub-page
Hi. I removed the categories from your sub-page because they are causing it to be listed in Wikipedia categories meant for articles. I see you've reverted my removals; could you please comment the categories out at least? Thanks. Regards. Zunaid 07:44, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

List of Celtic Choirs
Sorry to call on you again, MacRusgail, user Nuttah has proposed that the page List of Celtic Choirs be deleted for reasons that are obscure to me - can you please assist me with this ?Jembana (talk) 11:45, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about this - Ben MacDui has helped with this by pointing to the correct wiki policy that allows such as listing. I have upgraded the page also. Thanks anyway.

BTW: Would you be available for reviews of 2 new Celtic-related pages that I would like to do soon ? Jembana (talk) 06:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm having problems
I see you have had a problem with this user when you stated "Then again, some vandals go by the rule book, don't they now?" and "I'm sick to death of people on Wikipedia who like changing other people's work, but do little themselves."

I'd appreciate you having a look at our exchange and giving me your opinion.

Have a look at my talk page to see how many files he is deleting, I feel like he has started targeting my work. Maybe I'm over reacting. Mbwa mwitu (talk) 18:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Rugby in Jersey
I removed the blurb about not being ranked by the IRB entirely. The rankings apply only to national teams (and I was assuming the Siam Cup sides were de-facto representative teams), so given the lack of a rep. side, the sentence doesn't make any sense. All the more so since the previous sentence refers to the sport as a whole, not to any particular team. I also think the issue of governance is covered sufficiently in the following section. Majorclanger (talk) 20:51, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Copyright problem: Rugby union in Sri Lanka
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 * Hi. This listing has come up for evaluation at the copyright problems board. I see that what actually happened here is that you moved content from Singer Sri Lankan Airlines Rugby 7's to Rugby union in Sri Lanka, in August 2009. You may have discovered since then, but in case not I'll point out that when you copy content from one Wikipedia article to another, unless you are the sole author, you need to attribute in order to meet the requirements of our license. Attribution is at minimum supplied by a direct wikilink in the edit summary to the original article. Since this has been the source of widespread confusion, there is now a guide outlining the processes at Copying within Wikipedia. If you have copied content into other Wikipedia articles, please make sure these are properly attributed. Not only is this necessary to meet the requirements of our license, but it also will help determine the true point of origin of content problems later discovered, like this one. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:33, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Rugby/deletion of entries from list
fyi ... an editor is calling for deletion of a number of rugby entries that I believe may be your contributions or of interest to you, for lack of refs ... see here ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Jews_in_sports#Individuals_listed_without_citation

--Epeefleche (talk) 05:34, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

September 2010
Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Before saving your changes to an article, please provide an edit summary, which you forgot to do before saving your recent edit to Rugby sevens at the 2010 Commonwealth Games. Doing so helps everyone to understand the intention of your edit (and prevents legitimate edits from being mistaken for vandalism). It is also helpful to users reading the edit history of the page. Thank you. I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a message on my talk page. @ 21:07, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Roger Waters's dad
Hi, I noticed you removed the notability tag I added here. What would you say makes the subject of this article notable, apart from being a rock star's dad? Please refer to WP:N in your answer. Thanks a lot. --John (talk) 16:58, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The numerous references to him in that rock star's work. I can't think of many other rock musicians who have so frequently done that. Christian rock aside.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:00, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * If the contention that Waters made all these song references to his dad was verifiable, I would support that. Is it? Stuff like "Forward he cried from the rear and the front rank died / The general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side" being on the article without a reference is embarrassing to me. Can it (and the other lyrical factoids) be referenced? If not, I'd say we have a redirect on our hands. What would you say? --John (talk) 17:14, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

He's not always referenced by name, but he is inferred e.g. when Waters talks about "Company C" at Anzio - his father was in C Company and died in that place.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:19, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Right. My point would be, is that your own interpretation, or is it discussed somewhere? --John (talk) 17:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Of course it's not my own bloody interpretation - he died at Anzio (mentioned) in C Company (also mentioned). Now go and bother a real Pink Floyd anorak please. Or better still hunt down the references yourself... -MacRusgail (talk) 17:42, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

More Scottish contribution to Halloween
Hello MacRusgail, need assistance on Halloween discussion. A recent U.S. user stated to another user; "You've been making various assertions about the nature and origin of Halloween, but here you say you are not clear on the "role the Scots play in Halloween"? An understanding of the formation of the idea of Halloween in Scotland is necessary to understand what it became in the USA". Scotland has played a huge part in the history of Halloween, guising for instance, and it needs Scottish contributors to give a true overview of it. Can you help please?. I was prompted to register because of this, and i've already posted on Scotland Wiki Project for assistance.ColinBurchill (talk) 11:36, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Disagree about bias
Having looked at your edit, the Halloween article is not biased. Lacking a worldwide perspective is not bias. It merely means that wikipedians from the nation(s) in question have not given their perspective. Of the article itself, only the "around the world" section needs globalized as it contains a North American perspective, which is being worked on in Talk:Halloween. Thank you.LisaSandford (talk) 20:11, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Not even North American... the majority of content is about US celebrations.--MacRusgail (talk) 21:38, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WWII Scottish rugby fatalities
Template:WWII Scottish rugby fatalities has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:21, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Manx language
Hi MacRusgail,

I have left comments on the Manx language talk page which I feel should be addressed. Good work so far on the article, but these two points need addressing I feel. Gura mie eu, --MacTire02 (talk) 13:42, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

BLPN note
Hi, just a note to let you know that some of the content in an article your created has been disputed in a thread at the BLP noticeboard, your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 15:44, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Moving Press-up to "Push-up"
As a user who has participated in move discussions for the article Press-up, I invite you to weigh in on the move discussion currently under way: Talk:Press-up. -Clconway (talk) 01:12, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Ivory Coast in Rugby
The article for the Elephants has been moved to the English name, Ivory Coast, to be consistent, it should be listed correctly in templates. As I keep telling you, Ivory Coast is the English and common name for the team in English, if this were the French wiki, then you may have a point, but it is not. If you will notice, I have left the Rugby union in Côte d'Ivoire name of the country as Côte d'Ivoire, even though overwhelming usage of the Ivory Coast in English language media far outstrips that of the Côte d'Ivoire, but until that article changes location, should we leave it alone? --Bob (talk) 19:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The CIA Factbook refers to it as Cote d'Ivoire. Americans aren't noted for pandering to most local sympathies.--MacRusgail (talk) 20:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Doesn't matter what the CIA refer to it as, as WP:COMMONNAME and WP:USEENGLISH is the Ivory Coast, and in particular, in the case of the rugby team, Ivory Coast is more prevalent and is listed at the IRB as the Ivory Coast. Besides, the article has been moved to the English name and the templates are using the article names. You should have voiced an opinion at that time. --Bob (talk) 20:20, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Okey Geffin
I case you're not watching that page, I just re-reverted your recent edits, and placed a note on the talk page. Your reversion only had automatic edit summary, and thus I've got not way of knowing what about the referenced guideline you felt did not apply. Aaron Brenneman (talk) 01:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

New WikiProject Novels initiative
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Mistake
You have left a warning on my page that I am editing under "other names." I have done no such thing. The only account I have is Dr. Persi. What proof do you have of your accusation? Is this a mistake? Dr. Persi (talk) 20:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * An obsession with the Gulf? --MacRusgail (talk) 16:59, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * By your impeccable logic, you must be ever vandal in the Rugby pages right? Because of your "obsession with Rugby?" Dr. Persi (talk) 23:26, 19 January 2011 (UTC)


 * That's what's known as a "category error". --MacRusgail (talk) 21:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Scottish Uruguayan for deletion
The article Scottish Uruguayan is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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David Campese
Thank you for thinking to me, I would like to give a helpful hand, though I am not sure if my English could fit for the en.wiki's standards; I'd better provide reliable sources and let someone speaking English at a native level assemble the information in the article :-) -- <span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style,Palatino Linotype,Times New Roman;font-size:8pt;color:#C00000">SERGIO  <span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style,Palatino Linotype,Times New Roman;font-size:8pt;color:#000000">aka the Black Cat 17:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I am posting some useful links in the Campese's talk page. On the other hand, if he is a rather wealthy man, is because of the money he earned in Italy way before the professional era started (yes, Italy used to hire Southern Emisphere stars by providing them a job that somewhat justified the wage they used to earn for playing...). -- <span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style,Palatino Linotype,Times New Roman;font-size:8pt;color:#C00000">SERGIO  <span style="font-family:Bookman Old Style,Palatino Linotype,Times New Roman;font-size:8pt;color:#000000">aka the Black Cat 22:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Please be careful
I'll refrain from templating you as I know you are an experienced editor but I will have no hesitation in escalating the matter if you continue to misuse the revert tool to insert controversial unreferenced information on living people. For the meantime I have removed your rollback access until you show you understand what it can and can't be used for. --John (talk) 20:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Firstly, if you're going to "punish" me, at least allow me to defend myself by telling me exactly what you're talking about like any court of law. I presume this is a reference to "Hegarty", which is a corruption of "O hEigceartaigh", an Irish surname.


 * Secondly, most of my rollback edits have been anti-vandalism, so I do "understand what it can be used for". When I say "vandalism", I am not just talking about edits I disagree with, but ones with swearwords and personal slanders against living individuals.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hegarty+surname


 * Enough said.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Hegarty is certainly an Irish surname, but not everyone in the modern age who bears the name may safely be added to ethnic categories solely on the basis of their name, see WP:BLPCAT for details. A nice example from fiction is McIntyre from Local Hero, who reveals midway through the film that in fact he has no prior Scottish connections and that his Hungarian grandfather changed his name when he immigrated to the US, thinking that McIntyre was a typical American name. Another thing to think about is that, genetically, almost all modern Scots will be descended from some degree of Irish ancestry, due to all the migration that has taken place. Yet another would be that modern science regards it as highly probable that Homo sapiens originated in Africa (see here), yet it would be silly to categorise all biographies as being of African origin. In summary, we can only use these ethnic categories when there is independent third-party evidence for it, and talkpage consensus that the person's ethnicity is significant enough for a mention on the article. In cases of doubt, we omit it.


 * Regarding rollback, it can only be used for reverting vandalism or vandalism-like edits; edits you disagree with must be undone and debated in talk (as we are now doing) in the regular way. So long as you are clear about that I can happily restore access. --John (talk) 15:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * As a matter of fact, I did consider your edits unhelpful and disruptive, that's why I reverted them. Most of Scotland is part-Irish somewhere down the line anyway. (I watched Local Hero a couple of years ago... can't say I got much out of it. It seemed to have dated badly, although I like Knopfler's music)--MacRusgail (talk) 18:15, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, thanks for being honest at least. Sorry you've made no attempt to substantively reply to my argument on BLPCAT. I'll be honest in return; I'll be keeping an eye on your edits from now on to make sure you don't add any more ethnic cats where they are not appropriate. As a piece of advice, if you find an edit by another established editor "unhelpful and disruptive", it would be smarter to drop them a message than to revert or undo. Food for thought. --John (talk) 22:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)


 * "if you find an edit by another established editor "unhelpful and disruptive", it would be smarter to drop them a message than to revert or undo. Food for thought." - I don't know you from Adam, in fact I wasn't even aware you were anything to do with the Hegarty thing, until I went back and looked at it. I think you overestimate your self-importance. You're just one of dozens of editors I have dealings with. It would help, however, if you chose a more unusual username than "John"... it doesn't make you memorable enough.


 * I didn't find your edits particularly helpful, and I stick by that. In the past I have dropped dozens of messages on people's talk pages. Sometimes it helps, sometimes it doesn't. --MacRusgail (talk) 19:16, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Spender
Hi, The God That Failed maybe "one of the most famous anti-Communist tracts ever written" but it's not referenced as such in the article. It says that he wrote of his 'disillusionment', which is quite different from 'anti-communist'. Please add a ref. As is, the cat doesn't fit. Sources need citations too. I'm sure they are not to hard to find. Best wishes Span (talk) 20:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying the book doesn't exist, I'm saying that there is no citation in the article that says that the book is 'anti-communist'. Cats need sources, not just a bibliography. Readers may well not have read the book nor know it. See WP:Cite. Best wishes Span (talk) 20:17, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Why don't you put one in then? You don't need to wait for someone else do you? --MacRusgail (talk) 20:21, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * That's not how Wikipedia works, I'm afraid. "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material." See WP:BURDEN. I note that the Poetry Archive profile doesn't mention anything about anti-communism, just disillusionment. Best wishes Span (talk) 20:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Don't blame me for your own intellectual sloth or inability to do your own constructive research. The God that Failed is an extremely famous book - Spender is in it. It is extremely anti-Communist. I think the title is a slight giveaway. Which part of that can you not understand? -MacRusgail (talk) 20:46, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. This really isn't about me but about the article. As WP:BURDEN says, the onus is on you, not every other reader. Three or four thousand people view the article every month and you can be assured that most will never have heard of the book. the Categorization guidelines says "It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories." Civility is a cornerstone of Wikipedia collaboration. Span (talk) 04:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Strange request
I'm in urgent need of recording some Manx for something I'm doing. I don't know where in Scotland you are geographically but if you'd be at all willing to hear me out, could you email me off Wiki? I'm fios@ [username] .org Gura mie ayd! Akerbeltz (talk) 10:47, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

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Albert Speer & rugby union
I didn't know about Albert Speer having played rugby! There is nothing in the article, but, him having lived in Heidelberg, it would make sense. Have you got a source? I will have a look myself. If yes, I would like to add it and place him in the category. He would easily, for all the wrong reasons, be Germany's most famous rugby union player! Calistemon (talk) 22:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I found the same source ad added him to the German rugby player category, but this was quickley reverted. It seems, when one was a Nazi, he can't possibly have been anything else, too, like a rower and rugby player. Calistemon (talk) 22:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Scots law
Hi MacR - just dropping a query by a handful of prominent Scottish editors (you, Mais oui! and Ben MacDui, to be precise) to see if you can help solve a naming problem... I understand that is at that name because it's officially Scots rather than Scottish - but the subcategories seem to be a mix & match of the two demonyms ( but, for instance). Is there a reason for this or does it need to be made uniform with one name of the other? Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  08:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that - I thought it was meant to be Scots, but just wasn't sure whether it was meant to be the same for all of them. I should've guessed that the Holyrood/Westminster duality was the reason for the differences! Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:08, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

List of Scottish Gaelic surnames
hello,

I really liked this list, but I think this should be split into two articles due to large lag; the first could be List of Scottish Gaelic surnames (A–M) and the second could be List of Scottish Gaelic surnames (Mac–U). What do you think?-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 10:49, 26 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. But I reckon it would best to keep it in one list, easier to keep an eye on. There are actually longer lists and articles on Wikipedia. I think as long as it is divided into subsections it should be easier to edit.--MacRusgail (talk) 18:42, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Eilean Liubhaird etc
I don't know if you saw my post at WP:ISLET, but Monro's Hebrides is now available. This has all the islands on Monro's 1549 list and attempts to identify them. Any suggestions for modern names based on the Latin and "Erische" are most welcome. I identified Monro's "Ellan Hurte" as Eilean Liubhaird based on an edit of yours to the latter. If you can clarify the connection I'd appreciate it. Ben  Mac  Dui  12:37, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

On possible sockpuppets
I'm not too familiar with the case, but it seems to me that Kayyond is the opposite of Mmboed. Melchoir (talk) 07:33, 15 March 2011 (UTC)


 * There have been a lot of similar edits by both sides. I even wonder if they're the same person (not as unlikely as you might think if mental illness is involved) I just refer to the place as "the Gulf" anyway. If it was called the Indian Ocean Gulf, both lots would take the hump at that as well.


 * I've got some sympathy with the complaints (both sides), but it's better if it's dealt with a note within the article, but people have been removing that too. --MacRusgail (talk) 15:38, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Service award level
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:9px;" class="plainlinks"> There has been a major revision of the the Service Awards: the edit requirements for the higher levels have been greatly reduced, to make them reasonably attainable. Because of this, your Service Award level has been changed, and you are now eligible for a higher level. I have taken the liberty of updating your award on your user page.

Herostratus (talk) 08:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Actually, you went up two levels - and in another month, you'll be eligible to go up another. Congratulations, and thank you for your many contributions to the Wikipedia! Herostratus (talk) 08:12, 24 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! --MacRusgail (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Bloodgate
I've a left a comment on Bloodgate's talk page. Please give it a look. Cheers. Dbpjmuf (talk) 20:04, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Please check this talk page again. Thanks Gnevin (talk) 11:21, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

About pronunciation of the word "Bonawe"
Would you like to say me how to pronounciate the name of the hamlet of Bonawe? Which variant is the correct? [boneɪw] or [bonɔː]? And one another quation yet. How to pronunciate the Scottish Gaelic name of this settlement which is Bun Abha, [bʌn ʌbʌ] or [bʌn æbə] or any how else? I need this information beacose I want to write an article about Bonawe and its Furnase on my native language.Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 14:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Edits to Indigenous All Stars (rugby league)
Seeing one edit to this article that was flagged as an addition of "Negro league" to an article about a sports team I jumped in and reverted it, accidentally getting rid of some constructive edits as well - I've reversed that, but I've left out the link to Negro league as it just redirects to Negro league baseball, a 1920s baseball league, and appears to not be related to this rugby league. However, I'm happy to say that I'm not very knowledgeable at all about the subjects, so if you feel it should be in the article then I have no objections to that - the two subjects just looked to me as if they weren't related and the linking could be seen as defamatory. Hope this is OK, if not please let me know. Cheers, -- gtdp (T)/(C) 14:14, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

A question
I noticed your conversation with User:Kayyond, could you tell me what you suspect his previous user-name was? Is he the reincarnation of a banned user? Kurdo777 (talk) 22:21, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Mount Muir merge
Hi. Sources indicate that Mount Muir is located on the Alberta-British Columbia border. So when these were merged, Mount Muir (Alberta) should have been a redirect to Mount Muir (Canada). Is there a reason why you made the redirect the other way? RedWolf (talk) 04:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Douglas Bader
Do not tell me what to do. I will do whatever I feel is right on this page that I have contributed much to. There is absolutely no information - nothing - mentioned in any published source that says Bader was a played professional cricket. The sources are unreliable (in fact awful) and should not be used to assert 'facts'. Dapi89 (talk) 21:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Stop removing referenced material. If you don't like the references, source better ones. The information seems fairly well attested. My interest is more in the rugby than the cricket anyway.--MacRusgail (talk) 12:29, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't like being called a vandal. My contributions to Wikipedia earn me enough kudos to prevent people like you, who are too stupid to understand simple logic, from using it. I'll remove it, and I will keep doing it. In case you hadn't noticed, I have added secondary sources which are reliable. No mention of cricket is made in the vast majority of the bibliography sources, save for Jackson and Lucas. Jackson in particular points to one game of rugby, played by Bader for HQs against a local team. He also was picked for the cricket RAF team, though it seems as if he did not play. Had he scored 65 it would be noted - Lucas loves Bader and would not miss an opportunity to lift his legend to even higher pedestal. Further, it was not a "first class game"; it was not even a pro-contest. Dapi89 (talk) 13:57, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Regarding the cricket aspect. I think this should be taken to the cricket wikiproject for the folk there to deal with. I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on it, but I included it because he seems to have been a decent all round sportsman. He was certainly a notable rugby player.


 * By the way, there are plenty of licensed vandals on Wikipedia. They remove a lot of interesting and informative material, making the articles worse... but unlike the other kind of vandal, they try and make recourse to the rule book, as if it justifies that behaviour. In my experience, they rarely try and chase up better references - they leave that work to other people. Not so long ago, I went to a list of people on wikipedia for some information, only to find some licensed vandal had removed 70% of them. He couldn't be bothered finding references for them all.


 * Personally I am generally against online references, and prefer print references. I use them either when I can't find information in books which are available to me, or I am at home. I am going to look up Bader in some rugby books at the National Library in the next few days.-MacRusgail (talk) 15:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:André Gide
Category:André Gide, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Richard Wright (author)
Category:Richard Wright (author), which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:47, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Please read this
I would suggest you read this WP:OC policy statement before making any more comments on wikipedia category deletion debates. Your comments show that you are unaware of the relevant rules for category making.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:31, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


 * On a somewhat gentler tone, I posted this on the CfD of William Makepeace Thackeray and just in case you don't read it there, I thought I'd post it here. I really think there's a misunderstanding here. You seem to believe that a few of us are conspiring against that category and the others in the May 2nd log or that we're favouring deletion because of our plain ignorance of the authors involved. I'll confess that William Makepeace Thackeray is only a name to me but that is very much besides the point. In any case, here is what I wrote at the CfD. Best, Pichpich (talk) 01:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Nobody here is passing judgment on the importance or talent of this or that author. These are not under consideration when determining whether an eponymous category should exist or not. You'll notice the absence (and please don't go out and create them) of Category:Italo Calvino, Category:Truman Capote, Category:Raymond Chandler, Category:Russell Banks, Category:Albert Camus to name a few of my favourite. On the other hand, the existence of Category:Sylvia Plath and Category:Mikhail Bulgakov is not an indication that Plath or Bulgakov are more important writers than the previous five. These categories exist to hold articles that can't be placed in the more typical "Works of X" categories for writers. In the case of Bulgakov, two museums and one particularly celebrated character as well as a few images that cannot be moved to Commons for copyright technicalities. I really invite you to browse Category:Works by author and see that the vast majority of authors do not have an eponymous category. The same is true for actors and musicians. This is not because nobody ever thought of creating them. Many were, only to be deleted time and again as an undesirable layer of categorization. Exceptions are made when there's no other sensible choice. Pichpich (talk) 01:04, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh, I'm all too aware of what goes on in Wikipedia. Not only are a lot of the rules cooked up by self-selected groups in obscure corners, which only a handful of people know about, they are also decided by people who rarely have that much knowledge about the subject area in question. I could set up a few pages on Wikipedia, get a group around me, vote, and then claim that I have the right to set the tone for the entire encyclopedia... It's like the worst kind of trade unionism, everything's decided for you beforehand, with a veneer of supposed democracy.

Why would anyone want to go around deleting categories named after people? Seems to me overkill, or at least too much time on the old hands. Completely pointless and of no benefit to Wikipedia, whatsoever.--MacRusgail (talk) 17:13, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that your preferred solution is that you choose while all the idiots around you shut up. I prefer the clunky system we currently have. You are more than welcome to start a discussion at WT:OC since consensus can and often does change. People do listen (though they might disagree) and they are open to new ideas, although you'll get a more productive discussion if you don't start from the assumption that they're all dimwits. I know that this choice of minimizing the number of eponymous category was also made on the French and German Wikipedias and the group of idiots who made that choice there is, as far as I know, distinct from the group of idiots who made it here. Pichpich (talk) 19:39, 6 May 2011 (UTC)


 * My problem is a) major decisions about Wikipedia are taken in obscure parts of the website, and that b) people with specialised interests (even knowledge?) are rarely consulted. There's little transparency in such a system. I have a big interest in literature, but only found out about some of these decisions by accidents. The votes about the categories named after authors should have been announced on the relevant wikiproject(s).-MacRusgail (talk) 16:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Gordon "Dod" Gray
Hi, MacRusgail. Just over a year ago you added that Gordon "Dod" Gray played for the Other Nationalities rugby league team. Would you have any details of the game(s) he played? The reason I ask is that Other Nationalities don't appear to have played between 1933 and 1949, and as he seems to have moved to league from union for the 1937/38 season, he would have not been available for the 1933 match, but I assume would have been about 40 by the time of the 1949 match. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 07:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Willie Welsh
Hi, MacRusgail. Similar to the above, you added that Willie Welsh played for the Scotland national rugby league team. The reason I ask is that Scotland don't appear to have played any games before 1995. Could it be that he played for Other Nationalities rugby league team in the 30 March 1933 against England at Workington? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 09:52, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Thomas Wright
Hi, MacRusgail. Similar to the above, you added that Thomas Wright played for the Scotland national rugby league team. Could it be that he played for Other Nationalities rugby league team in the 1940s and '50s European Rugby League Championship matches? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 10:24, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Taoisigh's Irish names
Yes it does, see "An Irish version of a person's English-language name may be given in the first sentence of the lead of an article on that person if it is a well-known, commonly-used name for that person. If there is no commonly-used Irish version, it is not appropriate or encyclopaedic to "invent" such names, as this constitutes original research. On the other hand, the mere fact that an Irish name appears in certain sources, such as databases, is not sufficient evidence that it is commonly used." See also the discussion on the talk page. Snappy (talk) 20:28, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
 * This was the consensus agreed after a detailed discussion on IMOS a few months ago, the result was clear that Irish names are not to appear in the lead unless they are commonly known by that name, which does not apply to Taoisigh, e.g. Pádraig Parthalán Ó hEachthairn. Snappy (talk) 17:27, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Saudirugbyassociation.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Saudirugbyassociation.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude2 (talk) 04:13, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Those four tildes...
Per this edit to User talk:NadQatar, please sign your edits. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 16:44, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Falkland Islands Article in Arbitration
Having briefly reviewed the article's discussion history, I've identified you as a potentially aggrieved editor whose contributions may have been negatively impacted by the actions of a group of editors who are alleged to be POV-pushing and engaging in WP:GAMES. I invite you to peruse the arbcom request and voice your opinion and experiences, at your leisure. The link is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#WP:NPOV_and_WP:GAMES_in_.22Falkland_Islands.22_and_related_articles

Thank you.Alex79818 (talk) 22:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

2008 Heineken Cup Final up for deletion
If you have any comments please leave here: Articles for deletion/2008 Heineken Cup Final --Bob (talk) 20:45, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Scottish Gaelic place names
Hi, your name was mentioned by in reply to the message I left on his talk page. I notice you are on wikibreak, but I don't know any other Gaelic speakers.

It's probably better to reply to the threads either at Catfish Jim's page or at Michellecotter's talk page, both of which I'm watching (and here now). Thanks. Tim PF (talk) 16:19, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Apologies, the wikibreak tag should be off...--MacRusgail (talk) 17:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries, in any case, I had checked your contributions, and there were some very new edits. I've updated Catfish Jim's page with a list of other altered place names which you or Akerbeltz or someone may wish to action. Thanks. Tim PF (talk) 22:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

List of French words and phrases used by English speakers
Hello, could you please define what you mean by unhelpful edits ? In my book, it means listing the same word two times, or imprecise definitions, but as you reverted my edits, I must certainly miss something ? Thanks for your help. Carthae (talk) 17:05, 19 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Remove the duplicates, but don't remove "auteur", "differance" and the like... these are both French words used in English. So what if one's a "neologism". "Television" and "internet" are neologisms too.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * As for the neologism, the fact that it's not in any French dictionary, especially the dictionary of the French Academy, makes it not French. Also, besides its author, nobody used it, unlike internet and television. As a French myself, I would say that this is a difference of culture between Latin languages and Anglo-Saxon ones. There's very, very few alterations accepted in French, unlike English. In order for a neologism to be accepted as pertaining to the French language, it must have made it to the press or books (no other media accepted) at least 10 times in one year in order to be picked up by dictionaries. Therefore, no, differance never was French (unless you can prove it made it to a French dictionary that I wasn't aware of). But it can be added in the list "only found in English".
 * Besides differance, I didn't remove any word that wasn't a duplicate (and auteur was one of those, as I indicated in the commentary).-86.66.139.96 (talk) 18:24, 20 June 2011 (UTC)


 * The French Academy may be the official body for the language, but it has little power to stop people inventing or using words. They've had mixed success with their anti-Franglais campaign for example.--MacRusgail (talk) 22:33, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Snow rugby for deletion
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Speedy deletion nomination of Snow rugby
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Removing Speedy at Snow rugby
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Lymphad merge
Lymphad was recently split off from Birlinn,you have proposed it be merged back. yet you have not said why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinynanorobots (talk • contribs) 04:16, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Are Jehovah's Witnesses pacifists?
I see you added a section for them. Your input would be appreciated here. Nirvana2013 (talk) 13:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Footie in Bute
You may be interested in Talk:Stuart Macrae - I am certainly out of my sports depth here. Ben  Mac  Dui  18:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Rugby union in Yugoslavia and Rugby union in Serbia
I've been doing a bit of pruning on these two articles.

The bit about rugby union in Croatia starting in '54 isn't true because rugby league was introduced into Serbia in '53 and union predates league in the former Yugoslavia (though not in Serbia since 'rugby' wasn't played before league's introduction).

I deleted the uncertainty about the reasons for Serbian RL switching to RU. It was because of Yugoslavian unity though for a while there was a stand-off with union promoted as a Croatian game and league as a Serbian game. Though obviously both were fringe sports at best.

I also deleted a bit of Serbian rugby league offering cash to union players to switch codes in the 90s. Not sure where you could have got that from because rugby league disappeared in the 60s and didn't return until the 21st century. Not only that but cash inducements and a "professional ethos" are rather odd claims since Serbian RL has only ever been a fringe sport that couldn't possible pay any of its players due to a lack of cash. It is considerably weaker than Scottish RL and that's saying something.GordyB (talk) 21:25, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Bahá'í Faith
Hi. I saw that you had asked for the neutrality of Bahá'í Faith paper. I had the same problem with this article. Would you know any Admin who can handle this subject? There are some POV pushers who do not let anybody ask for neutrality in this subject.P. Pajouhesh (talk) 08:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


 * My main issue is that the succession crisis. (A similar situation after the death of Joseph Smith in Mormonism is quite well handled.) There are also issues about women, homosexuality etc. This is a common problem with religious articles. The article on Sangharakshita has similar problems... his followers keep on altering it to their viewpoint.--MacRusgail (talk) 18:53, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

A Palestinian rabbi for you!
Thanks for your support at the Afd on Palestinian rabbis. Chesdovi (talk) 14:25, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Adam Bede
Category:Adam Bede, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:25, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Taoiseach
No problem with your revert, but I just wonder - you know that, but does the rest of the world know it? Van Speijk (talk) 16:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, they can follow the link if they don't. Or use a dictionary.--MacRusgail (talk) 13:49, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

CfD
What? I honestly have no idea what your problem is here; I'd appreciate you explaining yourself. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:47, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * MacRusgail, see my comments here (the second section only). I really think you should reconsider the precise words you are choosing to use. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's a question of being within the rules or not, it's a question of how you frame other editors' intents. If you call something "vandalism", even if it's "licenced vandalism", you are implying that the person's intent is not to improve the encyclopedia. That is not an assumption of good faith. I don't always agree with User:Koavf's nominations, but just because I disagree with him doesn't mean his intent is to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. If that's not what you mean, then I suggest you drop the use of the word "vandalism" in WP forums, even if you restrict your usage to the neologistic "licenced vandalism". Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:01, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Stephen Spender
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Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Ignazio Silone
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Blogs are not allowed as references
See Talk:Teribus ye teri odin. 91.5.58.119 (talk) 22:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

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Laws
Hey MacRusgail. My response at Talk:Laws of rugby union was poorly worded and I can see how you thought I was being sulky. I can assure you I did not take any offence and was trying (although failing badly) to be light hearted. In fact I am glad other people are looking over these articles, sometimes it feels like I am talking to myself out here. I will take more care with my wording in the future. Thanks and keep up the good work. AIR corn (talk) 21:14, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

About Queenshill
Hello! I need your help. I’d like to ask you about pronunciation of the name of the “Queenshill” wich is near Kirkcudbright. Scottish inventor James Beaumont Neilson lived there. His estate was at Queenshill. So, how to pronunciate this word? [kwi:n ʃɪl] or [kwiːnz hɪl] ? Which variant is correct? The quation may seem strange to you but it is realy incomprehensible. There are no article about Neilson in Ukrainian Soviet Encyclopedia or another modern Ukrainian Encyclopedia. Therefore there no mention of the “Queenshill” wich is near Kirkcudbright there. Great Soviet Encyclopedia has an article about Neilson so there is the mention about Queenshill on Russian language as Куиншил [kwi:n ʃɪl]. But Googlmaps reproduce Queenshill of different sites of Britain on Russian language as Куинсхилл [kwiːnz hɪl]. So wich variant is correct? I am sorry to trouble you. Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 13:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the answer. Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 20:35, 7 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hiya! Be looking here once more please. Blast furnace chip worker (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Maybury


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Arthur Koestler navbox
Hi! I was going to create a navbox for Koestler, but discover that you already had made an excellent one - although it's kept in you user space, at User:MacRusgail/Sandbox11. Why not move it to the mainspace? Smetanahue (talk) 17:52, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Great! I'll just remove the unlinked text. The unlinked titles will still be there in the article history, so they're be easy to re-add whenever a missing article is created. Smetanahue (talk) 17:21, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Hamishhenderson.jpg needs authorship information
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 * Free images have all been tagged by bots to be moved to commons - I've added an information template to help make sure it's OK. I've called the source own, - if you known who sculpted the head, it would be nice to add or just "unknown sculptor" - please at least add the location (I'm assuming somewhere in Scotland), in some countries (France Belgium, modern USA), you can't publish photos of sculptures - in the UK, we are well spoilt for freedom of panorama :-). Thanks  Ron h jones (Talk) 14:30, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

File:Hamishhenderson.jpg
Hi! Where is taken this pic? :-) --Pequod76 (talk-ita.esp.eng) 01:16, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


 * See details at File:Somhairlemacgilleain2.png - it's the same location.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:58, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

George Q. Cannon
See here. Just so no one violates the 3RR over this. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Pat McEvedy
What is your source for the birthplace of Pat McEvedy? It seems unlikely that he was born at Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu as it's just a minor hill and does not have a population as far as I know. I wonder if he was born at Taumata, which is a locality in Otago north-east of Clinton, New Zealand.- gadfium 22:38, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've changed the article to just say Taumata without the assumption either way.- gadfium 19:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

List of rock formations in the United Kingdom
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of rock formations in the United Kingdom. Bejnar (talk) 20:52, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you
Trying to determine the origins of football is difficult enough without nonsense about coconut chasers. The article makes it clear the game is not Rugby. In my opinion it should state the game has no connections with any code of football or the medieval ball games played in Europe that influenced the development of football. Running with and passing the ball featured in the football games played in towns and villages in Britain since the 12th centaury. So did playing in two teams, the scrum, throw in, use of goals and pre-defined playing area. There is an abundance of evidence to demonstrate public schools adopted and applied rules to these games. There is a strong possibility these games were a form of the Roman ball game Harpastum introduced by the Church to celebrate Shrovetide a football type game played over 2000 years ago which involved running with the ball. Therefore, whether Webb Ellis broke the Rugby school football rules of his time is irrelevant. The very idea running with a ball needed to be "invented" is itself ridicules. For millions of years carrying has been the natural way for humans to move most objects from one place to another. Hominids hunting with spears come to mind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrian Roebuck (talk • contribs) 08:36, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

What part of the world and from which language do you think the word 'football' comes from? Laws were passed in medieval England banning a ball game specifically referred to as "football". Have you got evidence this word was used to describe a ball game played anywhere outside the British Isles before the 14th centaury? If so I would like to see it.

There were of course other versions of this game played in medieval Britain, Ireland & France under different names such as Anglia Campball, Cornish Hurling, Welsh Cnapan, Irish Caid and French La Soule. These games played at Shrovetide or times of other religious festivities are the true forerunners of modern football. They were played by peoples with close historical and social connections. The earliest recoded game was indeed played in England in London during Shrovetide c.1175. And there is verifiable documented evidence to support the history of these games as required by Wikipedia.

The origin of the Shrovetide ball game is unknown. However, circumstantial evidence points to Roman/Greek /Celtic/Viking sources. I have never seen a shred of evidence that supports alternative origins theories that stand up to scrutiny. What you are doing by re-branding games played in other parts of the world as "football" is distorting the history of those people and misleading the reader. By any academic standards that has to be unethical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrian Roebuck (talk • contribs) 07:00, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Rugby deletion discussion
''In case you haven't noticed, Wikipedia is more bureaucracy than democracy, and a lot of the time these things are deleted/judged by people who don't have a Scooby Doo what they're talking about. I've been reminded of this recently on an article about Scottish art recently. I'm also being reminded of it the way that your articles are being treated just now, so I have voted for the article's retention. I for one, do appreciate the effort that you have put in''

Many thanks for the post and your support. Right at the start of this Janet said that this was disruptive and that's exactly what it is as well as being disrespectful to those who have made the effort. It was only when I realised just how much was at stake for me in terms of what would be deleted and when nobody backed me up (apart from yourself) I decided to stop contributing and if the administrator does decide to scrap my articles then I shall almost certainly ask for my account to be deleted and I would actually say to this administrator this is the reason why because apart from anything else I don't see why i should have to keep defending my efforts especially when I've not broken any rules. This is not something I want to do but if the administrators have no appreciation of the effort that people put in then they will loose people like me who do give the time and effort.(Rillington (talk) 20:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC))


 * I definitely second Jowan's comments. Thanks again for your workItalic text

Many thanks for that. It's appreciated.(Rillington (talk) 18:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC))

Notification
Please see: --Mais oui! (talk) 08:26, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_November_28

Globalize Template
There's a fine line between having an opinion and rehashing the same issue. Your repeated rejection of consensus is well into the latter. Please accept the outcome. Toddst1 (talk) 14:50, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

On a technical note, please put "added _____ tag" in your summary when you do this - it's hard to see what you are doing otherwise. Thanks.HammerFilmFan (talk) 14:49, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Both of you are completely abusing your position to make sure only your POV is heard.


 * "Please accept the outcome." - There has been no outcome, since you keep on shutting down the debate. This issue has not had an outcome, other than you using your privileges to shut down the opposing opinion.


 * You may throw as much bureaucratic rubbish at me as you wish, but you are deliberately stifling any debate here for your own purposes. This should be taken to a higher level, and I am disgusted by the bias you are displaying over such an otherwise non-contentious matter.--MacRùsgail (talk) 16:23, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * MacRusgail, if you want to persist living in dreamland, where what we call consensus is referred to as POV-pushing and repression, you are welcome to do so. You are not, however, welcome to make personal accusations about abusing positions, which is a senseless remark anyway--HammerFilmFan is a regular editor and Todd has not used their administrative privileges against you. Your persistent attempts to insert what the majority of editors have rejected are disruptive, and please consider this a warning: such attacks as you made here on the Sandy Hook talk page and here on Todd's talk page and here on your own talk page will not be tolerated--I will block you if you continue with these baseless charges of abuse et cetera. If you wish to bring up matters for discussion on the Sandy Hook talk page that pertain to improving the article, you may do so, in a calm and non-accusatory manner. If you do it belligerently, you may find yourself blocked as well. This article is too big, and talk page discussion too important, to have it be disrupted by accusations of partisanship that only you perceive. I hope this will be the end of that. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 18:27, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I am not in "Dreamland". I'm very much awake to the fact that a) there has been no debate, and b) if there is any "consensus" it is manufactured consensus. (If you don't know what "manufacturing consensus" is, I suggest you google it. That seems to be the main reference tool on Wikipedia.)


 * Bureaucrats are killing Wikipedia just now. I am perfectly entitled to point out when I believe that a user is using administrative privileges to maintain their POV. In this case, there was no debate, because one side of the argument kept on shutting it down, and refusing to let one happen. --MacRùsgail (talk) 14:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Strangites and Bickertonites
Hi, I was recently looking at the sections you added to the Black people in Mormon doctrine article. While the Strangites and Bickertonites are part of the larger Latter Day Saint movement, they are generally not considered "Mormon". (See MOS:MORMON) As a general rule, sects that split from Joseph Smith's church before or around the time of his death and did not follow Brigham Young to Utah are not considered Mormon (and often would rather not be called such), while sects that split from Young's church in Utah generally are considered to be at least branches of Mormonism. Because of this, the Strangites and Bickertonites are mostly outside the scope of articles specifically about uniquely Mormon doctrines. This is also briefly discussed here if you're interested. ~Adjwilley (talk) 19:20, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Opera in Scotland and square brackets
Sorry, didn't realise what you were doing there. Your revert makes sense. Viva-Verdi (talk) 18:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem! --MacRùsgail (talk) 19:01, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

A table of Canntaireachd
Way back in 2005, when you wrote the bulk of the Canntaireachd article, you made reference to a table (for instance, the section name "Explanation of table"), but there is no table to be seen. Was there a table in Dwelly's dictionary that you didn't transcribe over? It'd be nice to have that... 4pq1injbok (talk) 03:12, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedian in Residence at the National Library of Scotland
I'm just dropping you a quick note about a new Wikipedian in Residence job that's opened up at the National Library of Scotland. There're more details at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scotland. Richard Symonds (WMUK) (talk) 15:25, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for this infomation.-MacRùsgail (talk) 16:40, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Cape Carysfort


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MfD nomination of Article Incubator/Scottish Uruguayan
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Lyell Glacier, South Georgia
I have removed a paragraph from Lyell Glacier, South Georgia that was unreferenced and (to my eyes) context free. I note that you added it when you created the article in 2007. Do you think you could have a look and consider whether it still stands, and if so, put it back along with some helpful context and a reference? Thanks and best wishes. Jan 1 naD (talk • contrib) 14:24, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Save Scotland's mercat crosses campaign!
Hi there. Back in 2007 you posted a comment on the Mercat cross talkpage opposing the merger of the Mercat cross and Market cross pages. This and a similar comment by another contributor prompted me to beef up the mercat cross article to put the distinctiveness of Scotland's crosses beyond doubt. Now I find a new attempt is being made to propose a merger of the pages, so I'd like to call up reinforcements, namely yourself and the other contributor who opposed last time. If you're in the mood and willing, you might like to let your voice be heard again. You'll find the current discussion here [] where I attempt to fend off the latest manifestation of imperialism by the Auld Enemy. Kim Traynor | Talk 19:21, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Portuguese graveyard at Leith Harbour?
Hello, can you remember the source of the name 'Portuguese graveyard' by which you say the older cemetery at Leith Harbour, South Georgia is also known? Any new information I can put in my website about the cemeteries is always welcome. Thanks. PatLurcock (talk) 02:13, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

New Wales Coast Path WikiProject
I see you're a member of WikiProject Wales and have contributed to Welsh articles. There's a new project, Llwybrau Byw!|Living Paths! under development which you might be able to contribute to. Lonely Planet rated the coast of Wales "the best region on Earth" in 2012, yet there is a very low number of articles on the history and culture of places along the Coastal Path and the many and various activities and attractions. This promises to be an exciting project as it gathers momentum with many Users joining in. Let's make this WikiProject, like the path itself, the best on earth! Cymrodor (talk) 08:53, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Irish sevens players
Hi MacRusgail, over-zealous editor here (althoug I note you didn't contest the tag at all)! I think you are making a slight mistake here, simply because a player is notable for WP does not mean that they then attract some degree of notability that warrants a particular call out in a team article. If what you are trying to do somehow is list players who meet WP notability, then a link to the category suffices. If you are trying to make the point that these are somehow prominent players for the team, then without reference to reliable sources, this is just OR. Not sure there is any real reason why this unverified list needs to remain, it gives the impression that these are key players for the team without any indication that there has been any external discussion to confirm this. Fenix down (talk) 16:19, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I get the impression that sevens has never been Irish rugby's forte, so that there won't be that many notable players. Most of the international sevens teams articles are practically stubs so could do with filling out.


 * I'll reverse the question here... what do you think would make them notable? If you can answer that please, then we can probably find some kind of compromise. Thanks.--MacRùsgail (talk) 16:24, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * What would make them notable in the sense that they would be worth calling out as opposed to being WP-notable would be a reliable source discussing their performance and noting that they are some of the most prominant players to represent the team. Although a football article, this is a good example, a link to the official club site that discusses who the very best players were. If no such source can be found then there should be no such list as per WP:V as for a reader it is currently not possible to tell whether these are genuinely some of the most prominant players or whether this is simply just a subjective list drawn up by a fan. Fenix down (talk) 16:33, 18 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm thinking along the lines of going on to the XV team, setting some kinds of records etc, or having fame for other reasons (which doesn't seem to happen with these sevens players - although Richard Harris and De Valera are examples of Irish rugby players who were notable for other reasons and never made the full national side)-MacRùsgail (talk) 11:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't have any issue with a listing of sevens players who have also played for the full XV. If players have set records as well, as long as it is sourced again no problem. I would be a bit concerned with "fame for other reasons" as a potentially subjective criteria tha perhaps would be better discussed in prosei n the main body of the article? Fenix down (talk) 11:38, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Nuclear labor issues
Hi MacRusgail, Thank you for nudging me to add more international references to the Nuclear labor issues page. You are correct that this is not just a US issue. The page already contains sections on Japan, USSR, Namibia, UK, and France, however these need development, as well as the inclusion of other nations. In the meantime, I'd like your sage advise, as I'm a new Wikipedia editor, and am eager to learn. I have two questions:

Would you suggest that for now I organize the page differently to achieve a better global balance (until I find the time to add more sections)? Is it permissible for me to remove the tag placed on the page after I add appropriate content? Thanks again, Netherzone (talk) 19:51, 23 October 2014 (UTC)


 * I've no problem with this. Thanks!


 * I don't know much about the issue itself. I notice that there are references to Fukushima, but most of the rest revolves around the USA.


 * The one thing I'd advise though is that if you're new to Wikipedia, that you can try out a few things on the Sandbox page to see whether they come out the way you want. -MacRùsgail (talk) 15:25, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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Can you please look here? <font color="#663300">  ~ Nahid   Talk  10:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Please use Gaelic on the Gaelic wikipedia. Your edits were unhelpful and counterproductive.-MacRùsgail (talk) 13:20, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * You still didn't explain the reason of revert and block. I know Gaelic is not enwiki but curious how duplictate, unused commons files and broken redirect pages are useful there. I was blocked there without being notified or defend myself. That's not the wiki-culture. I've tried to contact with blocking admin but he has no emailuser option nor have a global account. I'm waiting to hear your explanation and Creachadair's action. Sorry to reply here because you just remove your own reply from my talk page on Gaelicwiki. <font color="#663300">   ~ Nahid   Talk  13:46, 10 December 2014 (UTC)


 * There is no such thing as "wiki culture", apart from in the minds of a few self-appointed individuals. You went and put a whole load of tags IN ENGLISH on various different articles. I'm not sure it's appropriate for you to be editing large amounts of content on there without being able to understand any of the language.


 * I have seen many folk like yourself blitz into various parts of English wikipedia and cause more harm than good.


 * By the way, please do not delete forwards from English language terms and placenames on the Wiki. They get left there. This is partly because a lot of Gaelic speakers do not know the proper terms for certain things, and the redirect means that the article gets created at an appropriate namespace.


 * "because you just remove your own reply from my talk page on Gaelicwiki" - Because I'm not going to have a conversation with you in English there. Scottish Gaelic is an endangered language, there ought to be somewhere it can be used without constant interventions in English.-MacRùsgail (talk) 14:02, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Gaelic wiki is a global one and My edits were non-controversial, all of them were tag related. I don't need to know Gaelic language to perform those edits. Those files or pages should be deleted anyway. But the more serious issue is the blocking admin did not warn me before perform the block and there is no way to contact him/her for me who has no emailuser or global account. Now can you somehow tell him the situation? I'm going to be busy next couple of days for conducting some wiki-workshop and may not able to comment here. Till then if there will be no decision, i will open a discussion at Steward's noticeboard.  <font color="#663300">   ~ Nahid   Talk  15:25, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

"I don't need to know Gaelic language to perform those edits." - Erm yes you do. I don't edit the Bengali Wikipedia, because I don't know that language at all. And if you are going to put tags on articles in Gaelic wikipedia, please do not use English language ones. It's rude. -MacRùsgail (talk) 15:35, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Any news from blocking admin? <font color="#663300">   ~ Nahid   Talk  15:47, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Joseph Addison (Scottish writer)


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Nomination of Rugby Alberta for deletion
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Sorry to revert you at Stefan Zweig. Do you want to talk about it there? I will put the kettle on. Cheers DBaK (talk) 17:15, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

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