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Burlington and Lamoille Railroad
I've looked over Edward Lewis' book Vermont's Covered Bridge Road for mention of operations out of Cambridge Junction, but didn't find anything more than than this mention of the junction (on pages 34 & 36) and a few photos of the station at that location: By 1938 the passenger train was running from St. Johnsbury only as far west as Cambridge Junction where passengers could change to a Central Vermont Railroad (successor to the Burlington & Lamoille Railroad) train and continue on to Burlington. I'm sorry for the delayed response, but Lewis' book has no index; so I had the not unpleasant task of re-reading the text. Thewellman (talk) 01:28, 7 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Thewellman thanks for checking all the same, I really appreciate it. Mackensen (talk) 10:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello Mackensen
I found an article about Anoop Trevedi who's article is may not meet the notability guidlines of Wikipeida. You may decide what to do.Knowledgegatherer23 (talk) 23:49, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

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Is it time to close?
We've had six commentators on my Hank Williams sourcing question at the RS noticeboard. I don't know exactly how many it takes to reach a consensus, but I doubt we're gonna get any more. Tom Reedy (talk) 15:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

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Empire Builder crossing Lake Pend Oreille
Another fun puzzle: File:Empire Builder crossing Lake Pend Oreille, June 2005.jpg. It's unquestionably an eastbound (albeit physically headed northwest) on the Lake Pend Orielle bridge near Sandpoint. But four things don't make sense: Could this be a freight that happens to be moving Superliners for some reason? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 19:35, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The photo is dated June 2005, and since it's in an entire album of a single vacation, I'm inclined to believe it. But didn't Amtrak stop running head-end cars in 2004?
 * I'm not aware of Amtrak ever running TOFC, rather than roadrailers
 * Four Superliners is awfully short for the Empire Builder
 * The Empire Builder was scheduled to hit Sandpoint in the dead of night. The sun angle here suggests afternoon.


 * @Pi.1415926535 I agree that a non-revenue move makes the most sense. Four Superliners is plausible for the Portland section, but it's in the wrong place for that, and as you say the light is all wrong. That said, I was on a dreadfully late westbound Empire Builder in 2009 and crossed that bridge in daylight. Amtrak had roadrailers but not TOFC, not that I'm aware of. Mackensen (talk) 20:27, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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Chicagoan and Kansas Cityan
Somewhat by accident, I ended up rewriting the history of the Chicagoan and Kansas Cityan. At this point I might as well go for GA - adding a station list, RDT, route description, and map should be pretty easy. However, I'm short on sources for equipment; Classic American Streamliners doesn't have anything of note. Would you mind a quick perusal through your collection? It looks like you were the one to add the Wayner source.

Side note: I doubt it'll be necessary for this purpose, but should you ever want them, this title mentioned in this edit, as well as this title, seem to be available in person near you. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:28, 28 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @Pi.1415926535 looks like I added that reference when I wrote the Big Dome article; Wayner should have more on the initial equipment sets. I also own Reed's book. I have Wayner and Hough, Santa Fe passenger train consists, January 10, 1937, which is too old, and Passenger Train Consists; 1923-1973, which didn't sample either train. Yenne's Santa Fe Chiefs is another potential source. I can also check the Trains and Classic Trains archives. Mackensen (talk) 23:36, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

EMD page comment issue
"undo removal of my comment, which you ignored anyway" I recall getting "edit conflict" as I was trying to put in my own comment, so the removal of your comment was not intentional. Please assume good faith. I noticed you removed mine too, although maybe it was under similar circumstances. Cheers, Graywalls (talk) 23:44, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Graywalls I thought it would be reasonable to let you decide if your comment was still relevant, given that I addressed part of your argument. Mackensen (talk) 23:49, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

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Tyrol S-Bahn colors
Hey, I was looking at the S# colors at Module:Adjacent stations/Tyrol S-Bahn and noticed that they were different than those at Tyrol S-Bahn. Which one uses the correct ones? Gonnym (talk) 06:06, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @Gonnym the module; it's based on https://www.oebb.at/dam/jcr:dca525b7-241b-424e-be99-de42a9c3bb62/liniennetz-tirol.pdf. Mackensen (talk) 13:01, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Thank you for reaching out. I acknowledge your concern and I think you're reading a meaning that isn't there, though I could be wrong. Mackensen (talk) 22:16, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hey, do you know if Template:Davies-MidiPOLocoList is needed? It is currently unused. Gonnym (talk) 20:23, 15 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Gonnym Unused and presently unusable--I did a few searches to see if the source is used in the text. I checked on the French Wikipedia, and the only citation to any of Davies books appears to be on fr:P8 ex-Prusse, and it's not to the book in question. Mackensen (talk) 20:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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Fixing Lua error: Coordinates must be specified on Wikidata or in |coord=.
Hia @Mackensen, I noticed you fixed another similar error on a rail station back in May, I was wondering if you could do the same for Beliaghata Metro Station please?  Qcne  (talk)  16:40, 26 August 2023 (UTC)


 * @Qcne Done. The fix is to connect the article with the Wikidata item, where the coordinations are defined . Mackensen (talk) 16:58, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

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Railway guides
FYI, I've created User:Pi.1415926535/US Railway Guides as an index of the various guides. I'm focusing on the 1850s to 1880s for individual links, since the external indexes at the bottom are fairly comprehensive from the 1880s on. Feel free to add any others you find, especially early ones.


 * Awesome! I might break out the Hathi links anyway. They're less complete than I'd like; we'll want to try backfilling with Google Books. Mackensen (talk) 02:14, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * NAOTC did some of this work already. I added the first three. Mackensen (talk) 02:25, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me. My interest is primarily before 1880 - after that, there's pretty good map coverage for the areas that interest me - but you're welcome to make it suit your needs as well. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:16, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, I recently edited this template to hide minor stops, much like what I had done with The Canadian. I still don't quite understand the markup though - the line does not quite match up at Gladstone station. Your help is appreciated - thanks! 162 etc. (talk) 16:36, 24 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @162 etc. I find the collapsible markup tricky myself; I took a stab and couldn't get it to come out right. Mackensen (talk) 16:57, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

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Just to give you a heads up, I wasn’t the one that started the issue, 611fan2001 was the one that caused it. I was only trying to follow the policy and to prevent the article from being vandalized. He’s been doing this for four years already, when ever he sees and edit he doesn’t like, he would go to their talk page and send the user a rude and nasty message very aggressively. When users try to reason with him over his aggressive behavior, he will not accept criticism. But don’t get me wrong. I know yelling at someone and attacking them on their talk page is not ok. Because he still hasn’t been warned yet abd it still baffles my mind that you guys haven’t warn him about his behavior yet, because attacking users on their talk page is not ok and it’s against Wikipedia’s policy to do so. 199.180.167.20 (talk) 19:41, 23 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You should explain on the article talk page why your edits are correct. Mackensen (talk) 19:43, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

First off, you didn’t even acknowledge what I wrote and said about 611fan2001. He’s been doing this for four years already, he still hasn’t warned yet over his aggressive behavior. He literally attacks users on their talk page and tells what to do and what not to do, as I stated, he won’t take criticism whenever users try to reason with him. Because attacking users on their talk pages is not ok. 199.180.167.20 (talk) 19:54, 23 November 2023 (UTC)


 * You're making assertions without diffs. There's nothing for me to respond to. For me, the important thing is you're making a change that doesn't have consensus on the talk page of the article. That's what really matters. People don't agree with your reading of the sources. That's where you should focus your efforts. Mackensen (talk) 19:57, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with the article changes, again, it’s 611fan2001 that needs to disciplined for his aggressive behavior. This behavior of his is not ok, I don’t have a problem of him following the Wikipedia policy, that I’m fine with, it’s his aggressive behavior that needs to be changed. Because it’s not ok to talk aggressive to users on their talk pages. 199.180.167.20 (talk) 20:50, 23 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I've asked you for diffs in a few places; you're not willing to provide any. I've suggested that you engage on the talk page; you're reverting instead. This won't get you anywhere. Mackensen (talk) 21:23, 23 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for standing up for me. He’s still the same self-absorbed user for not listening to a word that I just said from late 2022. 🤦‍♂️ 611fan2001 (talk) 22:38, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

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Oskar von dem Hagen discussion
Why did you reopen the discussion. A concensus has been reached, so I closed the discussion. Antny08 (talk) 13:13, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Antny08 Please have a look at WP:CLOSEAFD. If I were closing the discussion, I would say that a consensus had been reached to delete, not redirect. As a participant in the discussion, it wouldn't be proper for me to close it. You're both a participant and the primary author of the article, so it's not proper for you to close it either. Deletion discussions typically run for seven days. Be patient. Mackensen (talk) 14:02, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I don’t want to lose my edits though, because if they get deleted then they don’t account when applying for administratorship. Antny08 (talk) 14:38, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Self-outing advice
Hi Mackensen, I came over here because you're already interacting with an individual who's been trying to contact Amanda duPont - they're using the accounts User:Sikobuhle and User:Mavela buhle as well as an IP. At one point, they added their name. Since Canterbury Tail had a theory they could be a minor I did a quick Google and although they are an adult, it appears they may have some intellectual difficulties. To me it feels like the self-outing should probably be revdel'd if this is the case; I didn't want to post on AN/I because of how visible it is, hence this comment. If this isn't revdel-worthy, sorry for taking up your time! StartGrammarTime (talk) 04:27, 14 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @StartGrammarTime I think you make a good case, and I've referred it to the Oversight team. Mackensen (talk) 10:03, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you Mackensen, I appreciate it. StartGrammarTime (talk) 02:45, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

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Icons in |zone= parameter of Infobox station
Hey, should icons be used in the zone parameter of Infobox station like in Mammendorf station or regular links? Gonnym (talk) 09:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Gonnym I don't think there's consensus one way or the other. I haven't seen icons used very often for fare zones, though we likely have them for Central European tariff associations. Certainly they should be smaller. Mackensen (talk) 12:24, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Glencoe station diagram
Hello, I noticed your deletion of the station diagram for Glencoe station today, and while I noticed some errors with the diagram and your reasoning was justified, I do not fully agree with it but was wondering if a proposition was possible.

I understand that Wikipedia is not a guide, but the intention was to show a top-down layout of the station and immediate surrounding area, similar to the photograph(s) shown on many other station pages. The diagram and others like it are not intended to provide wayfinding.

Additionally, you had a valid point in that a station with two tracks does not need such detail, but one notable caveat with this line is that it is left-hand running, and may be a notable quirk for those that visit the page.

Finally, when I looked at the most recent version of the diagram prior to deletion, I noticed some problems with what got published. There are no excuses for that and I will have to polish it up, but the main question is… considering the points I made, and if I ironed out its errors and made it collapsed by default, could I restore it to the page?

I suppose I am making a mountain out of a molehill, but I wanted to give my side of the problem and hear yours before adding it back, or conceding and not adding it back.

Thank you for your time, sorry for the long read at a late hour, and I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you. Hotdog with ketchup (talk) 04:05, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Hotdog with ketchup thank you for your kind and detailed note. I'm guided by the 2020 RfC on station layouts, which was skeptical about diagrams in certain cases: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains/Archive: 2020. I wasn't concerned about potential errors in the diagram--I don't know the area well and wouldn't have spotted them--but simply that a two-tracked station doesn't need an explanatory diagram. I agree that left-hand running is a notable quirk of the ex-CNW lines, and can and should be explained in text, but I don't know that a diagram is necessary to convey that information. Whether that takes us into trivial territory is another matter. I don't think it does, because that is unusual in the US.
 * I don't feel strongly on the question of including the diagram; if you would like to restore it I won't revert. Mackensen (talk) 09:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you ...
... for using language like "impassioned rhetoric" here rather than language like "hysterical histrionics" which 2-3 contributors to that discussion seem to want to keep repeating to no end! Sincetely, SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)


 * You're welcome, and I hope you'll consider my advice. Mackensen (talk) 13:39, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Definitely! Your wording did the trick. You noticed, I hope, that further up I had apologized sincerely for the text formatting? --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:59, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

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User page libraries
Hi, I noticed a while ago that you had a subpage for the books that you can help reference, so I shamelessly did the same. I was just made aware of WikiProject Resource Exchange/Shared Resources and just wanted to let you know of it as well if you weren't aware. Cheers, Fork99 (talk) 02:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

RFA2024 update: phase I concluded, phase II begins
Hi there! Phase I of the Requests for adminship/2024 review has concluded, with several impactful changes gaining community consensus and proceeding to various stages of implementation. Some proposals will be implemented in full outright; others will be discussed at phase II before being implemented; and still others will proceed on a trial basis before being brought to phase II. The following proposals have gained consensus:

See the project page for a full list of proposals and their outcomes. A huge thank-you to everyone who has participated so far :) looking forward to seeing lots of hard work become a reality in phase II. theleekycauldron (talk), via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:09, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Proposals 2 and 9b (phase II discussion): Add a reminder of civility norms at RfA and Require links for claims of specific policy violations
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 * Proposal 13 (in trial): Admin elections
 * Proposal 14 (implemented): Suffrage requirements
 * Proposals 16 and 16c (phase II discussion): Allow the community to initiate recall RfAs and Community recall process based on dewiki
 * Proposal 17 (phase II discussion): Have named Admins/crats to monitor infractions
 * Proposal 24 (phase II discussion): Provide better mentoring for becoming an admin and the RfA process
 * Proposal 25 (implemented): Require nominees to be extended confirmed

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Chicago, Madison and Northern Railroad
I just created this article and I see that you have access to offline sources, so I think those should be added. Cyber the tiger (talk) 14:23, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @CyberTheTiger I've started a discussion at Draft talk:Chicago, Madison and Northern Railroad (1886–1903). Mackensen (talk) 01:40, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

A fox for you!
Your contributions are just amazing! Thank you for all of the information!!! :)

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Oregon (town), Wisconsin
i just added content to this article and know you have access to offline sources. Cyber the tiger (talk) 15:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @CyberTheTiger There are plenty of decent online sources as well; especially for modern railroads. I believe the line in Oregon is actually owned by the city and isn't abandoned. Mackensen (talk) 21:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Trans-Siberian Railway
Hello, I noticed that you reverted my edit on Template:Trans-Siberian Railway. Your revert was justified and I will only be going back to fix one particular row, but I will add that collapsible sections within diagrams are very finicky, and almost never line up, especially between browsers and/or devices. Both before and after my edit, the end station was about half a space off when viewing the template, and a full space in the article (using Safari on an iPhone.)

I will leave the spacing as-is, but I encourage you to look at the same diagram with a different device, as it may look completely different. It is why I avoid working with collapsible diagrams.

Thank you for your hard work, cheers. Hotdog with ketchup (talk) 12:52, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Hotdog with ketchup I agree completely regarding collapsible sections. I'm not a fan of them in general and never use them with diagrams that I've started. The Trans-Siberian, admittedly, is a special case. My involvement there was limited to migrating it to the routemap style, and IIRC I had a hell of a time getting the spacing to line up as well as it does now. Cheers, Mackensen (talk) 13:28, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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Chicago, St. Paul and Fond du Lac Railroad
I'm starting this article. Cyber the tiger (talk) 20:08, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Category:Rome Braves players has been nominated for renaming
Category:Rome Braves players has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. BullDawg2021 (talk) 21:02, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Henri Gouraud (disambiguation)


The article Henri Gouraud (disambiguation) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Disambiguation page not required (WP:ONEOTHER). Primary topic article has a hatnote to the only other use."

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Grand Rapids and Indiana Railroad
Template:Grand Rapids and Indiana Railroad has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. DB 1729 talk 23:46, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

TfD for Template:Warsaw central stations
Any thoughts about the use of enlarge there and in other RDTs? (Templates for discussion/Log/2024 June 19.) Useddenim (talk) 04:01, 24 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Useddenim I think Gonnym has a point. It seems unlikely that a reader would follow such a small symbol to view the more detailed template. If by chance they do so, they're no longer in the article space and might have some difficult getting back, and the template page itself doesn't have all the article context. In paper maps, you'd indicate a inset with a bounding box and such, but that's not really feasible here. An RfC may well be called for; I don't think there's ever been a broad discussion about this pattern. Mackensen (talk) 09:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

EMD SD9E
You may have noticed that the disruptive PROD on this article references the Australian Railroad IP. The IP address geolocates to Melbourne, one of the two Australian cities this editor frequents. This is pretty clearly that editor evading their block yet again and telling on themselves in the process. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 13:53, 24 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Trainsandotherthings yep. I'm suspicious of the sourcing on EMD SD9E; I have an ILL request open for the Diesel Era article. We'll probably wind up redirecting it. Mackensen (talk) 16:58, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

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Ambiguous rail links
Apologies for forgetting that you fix Ambiguous rail links when I turned off automated reports in my retirement tidy-up. The simplistic query throws up a few false positives. Links from portals are often in an automated "new pages of interest" section aimed at editors and will go away after a while. A few genuine but non-rail targets like Fashion line appear. Disambiguation pages with links/Guide has some hints on fixing the problems; you probably knew everything in there but may be able to improve it. Thanks for continuing the good work, Certes (talk) 23:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)