User talk:Maculosae tegmine lyncis/Archive 2

Egg and spoon DYK
Hi: You wanted this to run in the evening on 27 July, but it's already in a prep. In case you'd still rather it run at the start of the Olympics (I presume that's the idea but I'm honestly not sure of the exact dates of the pesky things), I wanted to give you a heads-up to ask for the nomination to be unclosed and put in the special occasions holding area. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Welcome, Daughter of Yngvi (er, perhaps your Latin's better than my Icelandic); yes, that was my original hope - but it looks like there's pressure to keep the number of sporty hooks down over the period, so I'm not going to kick up a stink; thanks though, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 03:57, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup, Yngvi-Freyr '-) Your Icelandic/Old Norse may well be better than my Latin :-) OK then, pity, but it does make a fine picture hook. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:09, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Michael Portillo
The case pages should now be locked, since the case closed, so I thought I'd answer here. I picked Portillo deliberately - his timing was exquisite. That interview with the Times badly took the wind out of the sails of the rest of the press. Much better than trying to get a superinjunction, which just guarantees that whatever you're trying to hide is plastered all over the entire internet for weeks. Portillo must always have known that some day it would come out - realistically, Fae should have not expected to be able to keep his pre-Fae activities separate from his post-Fae persona once he had achieved a Wikimedia profile as a 'real person'. He was just too late in acknowledging this. Maybe Portillo just had better advisers. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 12:33, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time to drop by; interesting parallel - perhaps a greater understanding of how bloodlust is unlikely to leave any skeletons in the closet and lesser expectations of privacy; I know nothing of User:Fæ's misdemeanours, just have come across some of his articles and once spent a happy afternoon in his company plotting things GLAM; since blocks/bans are preventative rather than punitive, I just wonder whether it really is in everyone's best interests to ban someone sufficiently knowledgeable and capable to appear in Parliament, especially since he's explicitly undertaken to leave any more questionable activities behind; when searching for the diff for his apology I chanced upon some of the vile abuse his page attracts; I guess in the end it boils down to compassion, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 14:26, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know the chap really, and wouldn't like to say whether he was trying to avoid old problems coming to light or avoid being connected to the photos of himself displaying his more unusual - but perfectly legal - interests, or what his concern was. But he seems to be such a flamboyant and outspoken character that it was pretty inevitable that some faction would come after him - there's way too much politics on the go in this project. It is his attempts to keep a lid on it that blew up on him, not the original problems (or even the photos). There's a six month 'break' clause in the ban - hopefully putting six months distance between himself and all this controversy will allow him to return to editing and be left alone by both his current opponents and the peanut gallery. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 14:42, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Egg-and-spoon race
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Yanun
You wrote: Ciao, pourriez vous m'expliquer? Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 07:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The source cited does not exist. I believe its premise may have failed fact checking (but perhaps only after it was initially put online, then immediately removed?), in either, I hope you agree it is not a good source if it has been retracted by the publisher. 60.224.166.33 (talk) 03:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response - but you can find the article here ; just a quick word of advice: this general area is, as you can imagine, fraught with difficulties - and blocks and bans of editors are two-a-penny; it was partly to save you from being given a warning for being a vandal or sock puppet or something that I descended upon your page; in general, be doubly sure what you're doing abides by the rules bandied around here, like Neutral Point of View and Reliable Sourcing, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 05:38, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Hindemith
Thanks for the overture de:Ouvertüre zum „Fliegenden Holländer“, wie sie eine schlechte Kurkapelle morgens um 7 am Brunnen vom Blatt spielt, how would that be in English? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Good question - per The Rest Is Noise it's The Flying Dutchman Overture as Sight-Read by a Bad Spa Orchestra by the Village Well at Seven in the Morning ; per the recording I have knocking around somewhere  it's Overture to the "Flying Dutchman" as played at sight by a second-rate Concert Orchestra at the Village Well at 7 o'clock in the morning, but that seems to miss out the Kur bit, which I think's related not to Cur but to thermal cure; please, pretty please... Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 12:18, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That article is missing in English! "Kurkapelle" is a standard term for an orchestra playing in a spa to entertain the "Kurgäste". The first translation is better, but this English capitalisation makes it look less funny, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:37, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * ps: looking closer: "village well" may be the typical translation for "Brunnen", but I don't know a village that is a spa, "second-rate" is wrong, German has "zweitklassig", but this one is plain "bad", "vom Blatt" might be "prima vista", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:41, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed on all counts; the first looks better apart from the over-capitalisation; re Brunnen, "village" seems to be a slight embellishment/poetic license to emphasize the mediocrity and suggest this isn't a leading metropolitan ensemble - certainly sounds better even if not strictly accurate, and there's now good precedent... (or "local" as an alternative if there's an issue with spa-towns being towns? a nice point that could easily be missed by those without the relevant cultural background); "bad" seems much better/more accurate, and I think there's little risk of it being misread as the orchestra of a bad spa; and I really like prima vista for vom Blatt, although I guess it's going to have to stay as sight-read; The Flying Dutchman Overture as sight-read by a bad spa orchestra at the _____ well at 7 in the morning ? Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 13:31, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, how about Overture of 'The Flying Dutchman' as played at sight by a bad spa orchestra at the well at 7 in the morning as per Schott Music? I could make a start but would need your help! Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 14:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Watching with pleasure, you don't need me ;) When one of my red links was born, Hindemith, a friend of the Jung family in Rüdesheim, composed a Rag, music lost, but entry in the guest book, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And there was me hoping to farm you, fat chance! Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:50, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ali Abu Awwad
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well-done, ''gaetta pelle'! Thanks Nishidani (talk) 16:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This lonza leggiera returns the compliments, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:50, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nom
It has some issues with the image. Please respond there. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:59, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I 'd suggest looking further into the image, as it may be removed from the article proper. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right, will try to, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 15:43, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ichirizuka
Hello! Your submission of Ichirizuka at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! LauraHale (talk) 22:46, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've passed the article; IMO the hook is properly verified. Drmies (talk) 04:28, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks; I'm sure you're right about further expansion potential and I'll probably come back to it at some point, if and when I stumble upon something; I never lose hope that one of the purposes of dyk is to draw people into expanding and improving works very much still in progress, even if it doesn't often happen while on the front page, in my limited experience; sometimes, as here, there are big improvements while on the nominations page, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 02:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ludwig van (film)
Hello! Your submission of Ludwig van (film) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 04:28, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Have replied over on the template, thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 02:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Overture of 'The Flying Dutchman' as played at sight by a bad spa orchestra at the well at 7 in the morning
Yngvadottir (talk) 00:03, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! I hope you get a ton of hits. Drmies (talk) 04:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Certainly mine ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:59, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks both - hope it'll rival these viewing figures, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Only simple things get those counts, so you might be disappointed ;) I had my so far greatest successes in that (pure math) respect yesterday, both de: with Saphir (Yogo) (partial translation) and en: Laufen Hut (collaboration). - Consider Die Jungfrau züchtigt das Jesuskind vor drei Zeugen: André Breton, Paul Éluard und dem Maler ;) - My admin of choice is up for more ;) - Last: I am an alto, compare in this list the number of sopranos, mezzos and contraltos (5, counting the one who will appear later today, - I added 2 of the others) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I like Schon gewusst - but shouldn't there be an umlaut? I hadn't realized you were so active in both directions - and so many views for the Safir! Interesting picture, but including the Raphael is too distracting; as for altos - looks like you've unearthed another form of WP:BIAS, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 09:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Infobox museum:architectural details
MTL: thanks for all you do with Project Japan. Would you comment, by any chance on Template talk:Infobox museum? Architectural details in Infobox Museum are so lacking, I'm not sure the anemic museum infobox is worth using vs. the robust Template:Infobox building. Take care. Prburley (talk) 13:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Likewise - and certainly, will do, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 15:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Parthenogenesis
Hi, I've reverted your addition to the Parthenogenesis page for biological reasons, and wonder if you have ideas about how this can be dealt with in a more satisfactory way. It has long been a problem that people want to add the virgin birth of Jesus to the Parthenogenesis page, but biological parthenogenesis in mammals cannot produce a male offspring. Would you be happy with what I've just added to the page, a hatnote as follows: "Not to be confused with the Virgin birth of Jesus, sometimes called parthenogenesis, but unlike known biological processes"? (Please pardon my ignorance of theology.) Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:57, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That looks like an excellent way of addressing things - and perhaps also gives a succinct and easy-to-understand introduction for those who are looking for "just" the biological term, thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 15:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:59, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ichirizuka
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Title
I appreciate your goood-faith edit, and it is possible that other editors would have liked this title as well. But as far as I can tell, there hasn't been any agreement on the talk page about this, except for 1 editor named Nishidani. Can you please explain where you got this, as you wrote "per talk page?"

Thank you. -- Activism  1234  01:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * There's reasoning enough and to spare on that page, but it's pretty self-evident is it not? Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 01:07, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Not at all - that's why I asked you. Look, I'm not interested in an argument, I have no need. I just want to discuss in a friendly and cooperative way here. I suggested one thing, and another editor Nishidani suggested another. You chose the latter to name the title as.  If you felt "there's reasoning enough," then that's wholly different than "per talk page," which implies it was agreed upon there, and it'd be more appropriate for you to add your comment to the talk page itself, so we can see how many editors support that naming.  But it's not self-evident at all, since only 1 other editor, Nishidani, simply stated that's the title he/she likes.  Why his/her title, why not mine? Why not wait till mor editors can contribute their opinion? That's what is not self-evident. Thanks. -- Activism  1234  01:09, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Abreuvoir 3.jpg about bibulous equids]], Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 16:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your answer. All I needed to know was you couldn't answer the question. That was all.  Have a terrific day/night. -- Activism  1234  17:23, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Margarita Luti
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:02, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ludwig van (film)
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Freude! Freude! Ludwig, Ludwig ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I read your Ludwig with great interest while on the nominations page; by coincidence I'd been swotting up a little about the ruins of the Frauenkirche preserved as a monument to barbarism that very day; interesting parallel with the Parthenon here, apparently left in ruins for a generation or so in accordance with the "oath of Plataea" before Pericles came along; I spent a weekend with an old flame in Dresden a while back, squeezing in Die Zauberflöte at the Semperoper while we were about it, but am not entirely convinced it's an improvement on [[File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-60015-0002, Dresden, Denkmal Martin Luther, Frauenkirche, Ruine.jpg|150px]]? Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 17:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Your apparent WP:OR
Hello You edits at The murder of Yehuda Shoham is WP:OR as sources doesn't contain any of the things you added to article. Such behaivor may lead to sanction please read this warning.

Thank you.--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 13:41, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Returning the compliment of MTL's bookmarking my page, I bookmarked his and saw this. I read the article. Its creation violates WP:NOTABILITY and specifically WP:BLP1E. The irony in this, dear Shrike, is that at Shlomo Sand you suggested a few hours ago that the article be eliminated and its contents  merged on the grounds of WP:BLP1E since in your view ‘Sand not famous for anything else but for his book.’ I.e. the link refers to ‘Subjects notable only for one event.' It doesn't apply because Sand is a distinguished scholar with decades of work in the public purview. The article The murder of Yehuda Shoham does fall under  WP:BLP1E as do sister articles like The murder of Shalhevet Pass, created solely for the purpose of highlighting some putative Palestinian thirst for Jewish infants' blood. Given this new article, I look forward to seeing this put up for Speedy deletion. You should certainly in any case not go round waving policy on one forum for non-notability, and then ignoring its application to an article just created which you appear to approve of, which contains the very vice you deplored a few hours earlier.Nishidani (talk) 14:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * "highlighting some putative Palestinian thirst for Jewish infants' blood" - can you please explain where the article describes the Palestinians as drinking the child's blood? Otherwise, you're assuming too much. Thanks. -- Activism  1234  15:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The article is not WP:BLP but about a notable event and this is allowed per policy.--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 15:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * All deaths are notable, but not encyclopedic. This article is not encyclopedic.Nishidani (talk) 16:14, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * If you think so then go ahead and propose AFD.--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 16:22, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * (ec) Flattered, thanks, and quite; not quite sure what you (Shrike) are on about - is OR not about mad professors bubbling up nutmeg and lemonade in their garden sheds? My tweaks per talk are immediately verifiable in the cited sources. Nevertheless I skimmed the page you link at your bidding: seems the only possible issue relates to degrees of "explicit", but we already had "made headlines", the equivalent? I tidied the chronological confusion, clarified the context, reduced the emotive fluff; the "id" and "war" points are already there in the infobox and category, as discussed in talk. I hoped my wording would be clearer, read better, and most importantly provide greater insight to uninvolved readers about what makes this incident notable, namely how it serves as a reminder that even dying and dead babies may be hijacked by political and commercial interests and sold to the devil by their families. On a personal level, is there any need to start squealing about policy rather than discussing content? This warning notice seems tailored rather than an FYI - am I right about that? Finally, is there any reason why any of this discussion is happening here rather than on the article talk page, if at all? Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 16:18, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The sources didn't said that "unknown assailants" committed the crime and that "stone which chanced to ping off the back seat into his head; and also that "death were exploited by politicians " these is clear source misrepresentation to promote certain POV such edits may be considered disruptive.Please include in the article only what sources actually say now you own interpretation of events--Shrike (talk)/WP:RX 17:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

FYI - WP:BLP1E applies to biographical information of living people. Also, we typically do not name articles "Murder of...". Instead, we use "Death of...". For example, John Lennon was murdered by Mark David Chapman, but the article is titled Death of John Lennon, not "Murder of John Lennon". A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 17:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

August 2012
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at The murder of Yehuda Shoham, you may be blocked from editing.

See |this and | this edit. ''  Activism  1234  15:48, 9 August 2012 (UTC) :Fuck off you ungrateful moron, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 16:18, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but these provocations - there was absolutely no vandalism, and the threatening templates posted here falsified what happened - nor the response, blowing off steam, should smudge the page of an excellent editor. Nishidani (talk) 16:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No vandalism?
 * Mac wrote that the stone "chanced to ping off the back seat into his head." Completely false, and the refs don't back that up.
 * The fucking passage MTL used is in your own refs. What on earth are you trying to fake here?
 * "As they passed the village of Luban a-Sharkiya, Arabs suddenly appeared from behind a building close to the road, and hurled stones at the car. From almost zero distannce, one managed to hit the front windshield with a ten-pound stone. The stone passed between husband and wife, hit the back seat, and rebounded with enough force to destroy the base of the brain of Yehuda, asleep in his child seat, facing backwards.Note 3 = Yehuda Shoham'. Shilo. http://www.shilo.org.il/shoham/yehudaShoham.htm. Retrieved August 07, 2012."
 * 'chanced' interprets the report to mean that the stone wasn't thrown directly at the child but at the windscreen. 'ping' is rebound, and 'into his head' is where the stone ended. Nishidani (talk) 18:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Mac wrote about Yehuda's death, "exploited by politicians and the media in Israel at the time of the Second Intifada and is still advertised by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs." Completely false, it was not exploited, and saying so is an extremely biased opinion.  The part about the ministry is WP:OR (and unreferenced), a personal opinion, and neglects that most government agencies keep archives for people to have information from.
 * Yes, that's vandalism, and inserting personal biased opinions.

-- Activism  1234  17:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I believe the second part, even if true, not documented, but I haven't checked round. It is called, not vandalism but WP:OR or editorializing, and what you do here is put that in your edit summary as you elide the WP:OR. You do not go round smearing pages with wild accusations.
 * As you will see from the first example, which you call 'vandalism', MTL paraphrased the source you yourself entered into the page. So, as it stands on count one, you and Shrike are repeatedly calling him/her a vandal without even troubling to read the evidence. So retract the first part of your accusation immediately.Nishidani (talk) 18:49, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * The first example, meaning the first bullet point? As I said, I went through each reference and couldn't find the word "ping" used at all. And I used ctrl-F just in case. Per WP:VANDALISM, "Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia."  It seemed pretty clear cut that was Mac's purpose - to add unreferenced personal opinions into a properly referenced article.  Whether it's vandalism or not I don't really intend on arguing, the warning still stands, and the warning is a generic one created by a gadget I use, so not much I could control there. -- Activism  1234  18:54, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism is the insertion of obscenities or nonsense, or the blanking of articles. Good faith edits - even bad edits - should never be described as vandalism. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 19:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Activism. You persist in not recognizing what all native speakers of English know, that ping means to knock something, and in computerese, to ping is to bounce a message back. I might contest the choice of synonym, but it is perfectly obvious that this was quite a straightforward paraphrase of what the source you guys have cited, but not for this piece of information (which is quite specific), actually says. The child was hit by a rock that bounced or pinged back from the seat and crushed his brain. Technically, that is not an act of murder, but second degree killing. I don't know how frequent this is in I/P, but such acts are common where I live, especially in summer from flyovers. You guys classify it as terrorism, fine. But outside of the highly charged ideological world we're editing, these acts of juvenile violence are not considered political acts of terrorism. MTL was, I presume, trying to tone down the political slant you and Shrike, using your local sources, imposed on the page. That is why he made the pissed-off comment. You couldn't see the merit of the first part of his suggested rewriting, but merely ganged up to slap charges of vandalism on an editor who, elsewhere, has done consistently good and distinguished work for wikipedia. He's a newbie here, and this kind of intimidatory overreaction is not appropriate (unless of course the point is to deter newbies). Nishidani (talk) 20:20, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah as far as I know, throwing rocks at cars with the intent to harm isn't taken as just a joke or a prank. Sorry.  The article, as far as I know, doesn't mention it as terrorism though.
 * The Washington Times - says "striking him in the head." Doesn't mention "pinged" or "bouncing."
 * MFA - says "A large rock crashed through the front windshield, striking the infant in the head."
 * Jerusalem Post - "A rock had smashed into the skull of the infant, sitting in a rear car seat next to his mother Batsheva, 25."
 * The Independent - "who was hit in a Palestinian stoning attack in the occupied territories. The case of Yehuda Shoham, and his six-day battle for life, has made headlines in Israel, since the car in which he was travelling was hit by a large stone last Tuesday."
 * Shilo - "rebounded with enough force to destroy the base of the brain of Yehuda, asleep in his child seat, facing backwards."
 * The Yehuda Fund - "striking their only child, five-month old Yehuda on the head."
 * Ha'aretz - "skull was fractured by Palestinians."
 * The two books used as references don't mention "rebound" or "ping" either. One mentions "critically injured by a rock," and the other mentions "struck in the head by a rock."
 * So out of 8 references, only 1 of them says that it "rebounded." And I don't know how trustworthy that reference is either, as I don't know whose website that is (technically, the reference isn't that necessary, since it's always used in conjuction with other references).  If we discount The Yehuda Fund as well, that's 7 references.  So why choose 1 over the others, reliable or not?  And if you are going to write rebounded, why not include the whole thing - "rebounded with enough force to destroy the base of the brain of Yehuda?"  Why change the wording? Why choose 1 ref over 7/8? -- Activism  1234  21:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, an admin said it's not vandalism, but rather, I believe, source distortion (correct me if I'm wrong), so I retract what I said about "vandalism" and will keep this in mind for the future. I thought it was vandalism, but I now understand why it is not, and I appreciate that clarification. -- Activism  1234  21:52, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, snow yourself under with googling hits. The site both MTL and I cited is one hosted by the community where that family resided. It was written by people who knew the family, and were intimately informed of the forensic details. It therefore contains material which generic outsider sources fail to mention or overlook. And, nota bene, though as a local community source it was in a position to give very specific details about the incident, you ignored them, unlike MTL. When he appeared to have read this closely, and corrected the vague standard terrorist version in the broader sources by basing his paraphrase on that close source, he got the standard treatment. Some advice. Over a hot summer, the quality of edits drops as the external climatic temperature rises. One should remind oneself of this over these months, when switching onto wikipedia, and keep some scotch and ice on the table nearby the keyboard. Nishidani (talk) 22:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Simply put, we have 7 or 8 reliable references that report it as either a "smash" or a "strike." A "rebounded" stone would still result in a "smash" or a "strike," so writing "smash" or "strike" and complying with 7 or 8 references is not wrong.  You're assuming that they knew the details about the attack and we should trust them.  We don't know that's the case.  Unlike The Jerusalem Post, The Independent, Ha'aretz, etc, which are reliable sources, we don't know anything about this website, and generally, reliable media outlets are preferred over people-created websites.  I could easily say that The Yehuda Fund, created by the parents, simply said that it struck the child, and did not mention it "rebounding" or "pinged." -- Activism  1234  22:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * To repeat, the huge amount of personal detail on that page comes from family and community members of Shilo (you've forgotten to disambiguate that). The site it is on is hosted by the settlement of Shilo, where the child and her family were based. The family thanks the Shilo settler website for hosting those pages. What more do you need to understand that the information you don't want to include comes from the family, and the community where that family lived? You really believe a snippet edited and shorn to the sparse generalities of all those 7 articles by reporters far away are more reliable than the detailed testimony of parents and friends. Hmmm.Nishidani (talk) 22:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for List of painted churches in Cyprus
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pindar's First Olympian Ode
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:02, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Bunka database
Hi! Do you happen to know how often the database is being updated and/or when the last update was? I am updating the lists of cultural properties mentioned in Template:Cultural Properties of Japan and would like to write the date of last database update in sentences like: As of February 20, 2012, 94 districts have been classified as Important Preservation Districts for Groups of Traditional Buildings, bamse (talk) 19:43, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid not, it doesn't seem to say (and as you've noticed it doesn't yet include the latest designations); however this page, which lurks behind the 文化財指定等の件数 link on the database front page, might help with that kind of statement, as it gives both a count and a date (eg 98 Important Preservation Districts as of 1 August 2012); on a more prosaic note, I don't suppose you still happen to have that email I sent you a few weeks back with those attachments and so know my email address? I'm somehow locked out of the gmail account I use for wikimail and don't know whether I've misspelled my username or what... Thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 20:27, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply and sorry for this late reply. As for the email address, that appears to be the same as your wikipedia user name, but without spaces and "ci" -> "ic" in the last part of your name. Does it work? bamse (talk) 22:06, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It does - thanks! Must have even managed to replicate the typo the next time I logged in, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 09:59, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYK review request
Back in July, you graciously undertook to check the DYK-nominated Alfredo Zalce article for close paraphrasing with regard to its Spanish sources, since the article had contained significant close paraphrasing in its English sources, and did a fabulous job.

Can I ask you to please take a look at another such DYK nomination? There have been close paraphrasing issues with the English sources for Template:Did you know nominations/María Soledad Iparraguirre, and while they have been solved, Nikkimaria thinks it's important to have someone who knows Spanish to check the sources in that language to make sure there are no paraphrasing issues with them. Thank you for your consideration. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, sure, have done, and sorry for the delay; thanks again, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:53, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your help! It was so good to see it being promoted to a prep area today. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Kamiyodo Haiji
Did you notice my minor question regarding nom Kamiyodo Haiji? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

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IDP event
Glad to see another signup before I've written any details :-)

Do you know what day you might be free to come on? Andrew Gray (talk) 17:49, 22 September 2012 (UTC)


 * At the moment any or all, but this may change - sorry not to be more helpful, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 09:59, 23 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello again!
 * I'm just doing some of the advanced work for next week's event - have you decided which day you might like to come over? If you can let me know a couple of days in advance I can arrange a security pass. (Note that you won't need to register for a readers pass)
 * One of the other things we're looking at is images. The IDP has a very large collection of manuscript and artefact images, as well as a lot of site photographs, historic material from expeditions, etc. We're hoping to upload a lot of this during the week, but if there's anything specific you'd like to request, please let me know and we'll bump it up the list.
 * Thanks, and looking forward to seeing you next week! Andrew Gray (talk) 18:41, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Will reply on your page, thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 22:32, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Have added a gallery of the images you asked for on Dandan Uiliq, please arrange as required and thanks again for coming along. Vicswift (talk) 12:37, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Japanese Imperial treasures
Since objects held by the Imperial Household are generally not included in Cultural Properties of Japan, I was wondering whether you'd be interested in sharing work to create list(s) on such items. This is very preliminary, as I would first like to complete this article which I started a long time ago, and I haven't really looked into the topic: How many such "treasures" are there? What are they called? Are there any distinctions like ICP, NT,...? Are they listed online somewhere? Perhaps creating a List of Treasures of the Shōsōin could also be useful. What do you think? bamse (talk) 19:08, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
 * On second thought I am not sure it is such a great idea to base the list only on ownership as there would be plenty of "boring" items in there. So, unless there are some selection criteria for "better" items, I am not that eager anymore. bamse (talk) 15:44, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Bamse, sorry for the delay; according to Museum of the Imperial Collections and related info on the Japanese and kunaicho pages it looks like there's many thousands of these objects; I'm not aware of any ranking system; I'd basically be interested, but in the v.distant future. Detailing the holdings of the Shosoin would be extremely appealing, although again the holdings are super extensive (thanks for the link; hadn't seen that before); I've checked out several books in the library and there's the same issue as with the NTs etc, of one entry comprising multiple items; apparently fragments of cloth run into six figures; one categorization gives c.900 headline items; guess it could make sense to work in accordance with the way your link works; however, while I am super interested, time is all too short, and I've already made a start on listing the monuments by Prefecture and would like to continue with the lists of ICP structures by period (have got as far as mid-Kamakura period as far as I recall); so in short, I fear time may be short; I found a bilingual dictionary of Shosoin treasures giving what seems to be semi-official names, so if you are interested I could photocopy and send, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 22:32, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I guess you are right. Too much stuff there. How about a more manageable list of only 124 items like this? Could get a table with: number of emperor, name, year of death, prefecture/city/..., geo coordinates, image. If you decide to join, I'd offer to do at least half of the tombs. If not that's also fine, as I am quite busy at the moment as well and it is not really a must have list. bamse (talk) 19:08, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I started here in my sandbox, as perhaps it will be good for WP:DYK later. Will slowly work my way down. Let me know if you have any suggestions on content or layout of the table. bamse (talk) 21:38, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * All the way from the age of the gods and only another 750yrs to go; looks really good and no real suggestions; trust all's well with you and yours, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your words here. It was especially good to read what you pointed out here. Your gesture is appreciated. --Ansei (talk) 17:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm just pleased you're back (though en wiki's gain is simple wiki's loss), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 22:32, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Please notice the reasons for a username change here. A simple name change was done here --Enkyo2 15:59, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

Zurückgesetzt
If you please, are you willing to suggest an opinion about my diffs in a one-sided "discussion" here. --Ansei (talk) 14:26, 5 November 2012
 * Aha -- it seems that there is nothing for you to do. I wondered about
 * (a) a series of format changes in articles about the early emperors; and
 * (b) removing a JSTOR cite from Jinnō Shōtōki.
 * In the absence of any response, any possible causes for conflict or dispute remain unresolved. Some questions have no answers.  Some problems have no solution. It now seems clear that I reached out to you too early, too soon. Do you know the phrase, "Better safe than sorry"?  The words describe tentative guesses about when it is best not to take risks even when it seems boring or difficult to be careful?  --Ansei (talk) 20:41, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Era style
Hello. Because you participated at some point in this lengthy discussion about the wording of MOS guidelines pertaining to the use of BC/AD and BCE/CE, I thought you might want to contribute to the current discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers. I'm trying to notify all the individuals who took part in the earlier discussion but haven't weighed in yet for the current one. Cynwolfe (talk) 17:00, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello User:Cynwolfe, guess I missed the boat, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Back? Good :-)
Hi, I see you edited again recently? Good :-) --Yngvadottir (talk) 13:55, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, daughter of Yngvi - and am glad you're back at DYK, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Notification of discussion
A few months ago, you participated in a discussion on Wikipedia talk:Did you know about Gibraltar-related DYKs on the Main Page. I am proposing that the temporary restrictions on such DYKs, which were imposed in September 2012, should be lifted and have set out a case for doing so at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Gibraltar-related DYKs. If you have a view on this, please comment at that page. Prioryman (talk) 22:11, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, likely unnecessary, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Precious again
  dignity

Thank you for covering Japanese tradition, culture and beauty, with its history of integrity. "No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine" - thanks for that as well, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 14 April 2012 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 95th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks User:Gerda Arendt and keep up the good work, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Tenmei
Please give some thought to the reasoning here. If you have anything to say about it, please contact me off-wiki. --Ansei (talk) 13:45, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Shall try to keep up with all the era changes! Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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Monument lists of Japan
Hello Maculosae tegmine lyncis, I am a member of the international team of Wiki Loves Monuments who takes care of the upload campaigns used with the picture contest Wiki Loves Monuments next month. I also am working on the monument lists of the participating countries. I saw you created fantastic lists for the contest! Both the Historic Sites and Places of Scenic Beauty qualify for Wiki Loves Monuments. We have set up recommendations for creating lists for several reasons, read: What to keep in mind with creating a list of monuments?

In short a key component of Wiki Loves Monuments is that each monument has a unique identifier. On other Wikipedias we enable people to participate by putting upload links in the table itself, which automatically is filled in based on the unique identifier and other information. Also we have a Commons:Commons:Monuments database in what we add all the monuments to enable all kinds of tools to be used based on the unique identifiers with the help of template rows. It would also be good to add coordinates to the table and perhaps more information, but that can be a step later in time. We recommend you to transform these tables in the coming two weeks so that they are ready and to fully participate in Wiki Loves Monuments. If there are any questions, please ask at the talk page, mailing list or chat (access webchat). I will also send a mail to the mailinglist to ask for help for Japan. (If you want to finish creating lists in wikitable format first, please do!) Thanks! Romaine (talk) 19:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks User:Romaine - and good luck with the image drive. Certainly hope these lists get populated with some more some day. Sadly the database I am working from appears not to have unique identifiers, as eg here . If you right click and view source there is an item id I use for the reference, but I'm not sure this is the official asset number as such, which I guess means no one can do the work of making them compliant with the requisite format, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:20, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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List of Historic Sites of Japan (Okinawa) and List of Places of Scenic Beauty of Japan (Okinawa)
Several of the items on these lists were romanized incorrectly, particularly when the article on the subject is at the proper title. Please note that the local language/dialect in Okinawa has a different phonemic set than mainland Japan. Tamaudun is not "Tamauduun" or "Tamaudoun" in Hepburn anyway. and Sefa-utaki is never "Seifa-utaki".— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 14:13, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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