User talk:Madchester/Archive11

Sales of Coldplay
Still I find it weird that you reference to WP:CHARTS because clearly you too have over 18 charts, actually you got 22. So don't start with me please. And WP:CHARTS doesn't say anything about Certifications and Sales. So my research and long work should be up there. Even if the album has more then 18 certifications. (Electric Storm89 (talk) 15:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC))

Okay true....that is the price you have to pay or something. But you haven't comment on the fact that I'm putting certifications on the page. Certifications is something different then chart. Mediatraffic is not considered as a reliable source anymore on wikipedia and to give a picture how many sales worldwide there are I think it's good to show all the certifications. Don't you agree? I'm not saying this because of my "hard work" but for the perfect picture of sales on this page

Electric Storm89 (talk) 13:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Why are you deleting my art reference in Coldplay?
Why are you deleting my reference to the meaning of the art referenced in the new coldplay album? If the art is referenced, it is fair game to mention what the painting stands for is it not? Apologies, but this has been deleted 5 times and I am tiring of fixing it. Thanks for your consideration. Dcahillusa (talk) 17:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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TAR Taskforce
Hello! As you seem like a regular contributor to The Amazing race articles, I thought you might like to join the TAR task Force. Click on the link and reply if you want to join. Cheers! ♥ Shapiros10 Wuz  Here ♥ 18:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Request user to ban (Starfm1027)
Hello! The username Starfm1027 will be request for banned from Wikipedia. Because, the username had vandalized the Fox Crime article to Filipino actor articles page (JC de Vera, Yasmien Kurdi) when the articles copied to Fox Crime page. -- ApprenticeFan, 07:52, April 11, 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, here is the Fox Crime article copied from other Philippine actor articles:


 * Fox Crime on Yasmien Kurdi article; vandalized
 * Fox Crime on JC de Vera article; vandalized

Admin Coaching

 * Would you be willing to be my admin coach? I have 780 edits, and I am probably going to RFA by the end of the year.  ♥ Shapiros10  Wuz  Here ♥ 12:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Re-naming Rice shortage article

 * On the discussion page for Rice shortage, I agree with you that the article could or should be re-named, but not that it should be merged with another article. Could you go ahead and re-name it then? (it takes an admin to re-name articles doesn't it?) My suggestions are along the lines of Rice Shortage Crisis or 2008 global rice shortage or 2008 rice shortage crisis but I'm uncertain as to which words should be capitalized. Riceshortage (talk) 13:24, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Durant
My bad I thought I read on Espn that he WILL be, instead of he is EXPECTED to be--Yankees10 00:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Kobe
Kobe has won the MVP Award:--Yankees10 15:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * yeah your right, I read a quote in it that says: "We have not been told anything by the league"--Yankees10 15:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Future single
Template:Future single has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. (Notification to you, as the creator of this template) -— Yellowdesk (talk) 04:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Carlisle
There is no doubt that he will coach the Mavs. A verbal agreement has been reached. If only the latter needs to be in the article, then it will be placed there. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 17:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

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Coldplay tour
Ya, sorry, I only realized afterward how to change the name of an article. On the other hand, I received an e-mail from the Coldplay official website today with the upcoming European dates, and according to the e-mail, the tour is titled the "Viva la Vida world tour". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neorge (talk • contribs) 03:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Genius!
I think you hit an excellent idea that we can likely use a lot of free Commons images to pretty up the Amazing Race pages as you did with the castle pic in TAR3. I wouldn't have more than 2-3 per season to add to the lists, but I think that's a great way to make these more interesting without violating WP:NFCC. --M ASEM 21:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Behemoth
However, all the headers and flyers, you see that Canada's Wonderland uses all caps. It was how they fed the information at staff briefings. -- cncxbox June 15, 2008 16:37 (UTC)

Coldplay
Hi - if you look at the reference I put for the English description, you will see that Chris Martin described them as English. Also, the user "Justin A Kuntz" who has joined the discussion is "wiki-stalking" me and reverting all my edits. He wouldn't have been on that page if it wasn't for the fact that "I" edited it.

92.12.17.5 (talk) 19:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Jefferson
Although the trade is not confirmed at teams' official websites, realgm confirmed that it's official. That's why I edited those pages. Tamburello 26 June 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 21:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Cats
thats not how its done with the MLB and NFL players, so I dont see why it should be different with the NBA players--Yankees10 01:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I disagree, but whatever, I won't add them anymore--Yankees10 01:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, first round picks have guaranteed contracts, so it is appropriate to add the categories for first rounders at a minimum.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 03:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest not jumping to conclusions per WP:CRYSTAL. Players aren't really part of a team until they sign an actual NBA contract.  For 1st rounders, there's a 2-3 day lapse between the draft and the signing.  For other draftees, it may take longer.  It's a bit of a jump to claim that a player with no contract is automatically on a club's roster. --Madchester (talk) 04:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No it isn't really a jump to any conclusion to say that Derrick Rose or any other first round pick is on a NBA roster due to the fact that the players have guaranteed contracts with the team holding their rights.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 04:40, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Yet, I noticed you also reverted my edits for 2nd round draft picks??? I've brought up the topic for discussion at WP:NBA.  I noticed that editors there recently turned down a Celtics championships template that was created ahead of time due to WP:CRYSTAL - I think the draft pick/signing situation would also fall under that policy. --Madchester (talk) 04:59, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protect T.J. Ford?
Hey Madchester, can you semi-protect the article of T.J. Ford as well? He and O'Neal seem to be getting most of the basketball fans'...attention. — LOL T/C 02:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

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Protect North St. Paul, Minnesota
Hi Madchester, could you protect the North St. Paul, Minnesota page again, please? That same loser is still continually spam-linking to his blog, under several different names. Thanks! Iulus Ascanius (talk) 02:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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Regarding Ronaldinho
He has agreed and sealed the deal. This is official. Stop taking it out because this is confirmed. Source: www.acmilan.com

This is where you are wrong again. He has signed a CONTRACT. This contract was agreed on. You want a source? http://www.nationalpost.com/sports/story.html?id=656866

Gcarini (talk) 02:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Quoting from your source, "The player will be tomorrow in Milan to undergo the medical examinations and sign the contract that will bind to Milan until June 30, 2011"
 * Again, please wait until the official signing and contract announcement before adding his full Milan details. Again refer back to WP:CRYSTAL.  Wiki's not a news service and we don't rush to report "breaking news".  Thanks. --Madchester (talk) 02:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Absolutely ridiculous. Some editors here are rubbish. Have it your way. This is an OFFICIAL CONTRACT reached with Barcelona. Fact. Gcarini (talk) 02:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Wow your logic is absolutely astounding. The deal has been reached between both parties, and is not going to fall through. This is past the "crystal ball" criteria. Go talk about something you actually know about. Good luck. Gcarini (talk) 02:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, he won't sign his contract until the 16th. The contract signing and transfer are two different things.  Per WP:BLP we must conservatively edit an individual's biographic details.  According to the policy, Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons — whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable — should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion.  This ties back to WP:CRYSTAL; we simply don't jump to conclusions to change such a significant detail about a person's career, without it being properly cited by reliable sources.  Currently, the reliable sources indicate that he has yet to sign a contract with Milan - hence he's not on the club just yet. --Madchester (talk) 02:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Christian Bale
There has been a long, on-going edit war on the Christian Bale article. He was born in Wales, United Kingdom, but grew up mostly in England (also Portugal and the US), has English parents (I believe), and most importantly considers himself English (which is shown on the 2 refs in the lead sentence) but the lead sentence has gone from like 'British actor' to 'Welsh-born, English actor' to 'English actor' to 'Welsh actor,' and now it's frequently changed between the latter 2. I realise there are surely better ways to have this sorted out than asking for help on an admin's talk page, but I'm not sure how - it seems on the admin noticeboard people only report edit wars when someone's in violation of the 3-revert rule, which is not necessarily the case with this article. Could you help sort it out please? Thanks --Bloodloss (talk) 00:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Seán Travers
Ha. I've had edit conflicts before but never a user-block conflict. Thanks for jumping on this, his bad edits are just ongoing and he doesn't want to listen to anyone, apparently. - eo (talk) 23:19, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Dance-pop
Hello. I wanted to inquire about the changes done to the entry on Dance-pop. I noticed the section on Notable Dance-pop artists was removed, and I noticed that you left a "Removed unsourced material" message there. Was there a specific reason why this section ws removed? All of the artists are recognized as dance-pop artists... (Mirror Ball 14:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC))

Can you block User:Officially Mr X again
He continouing vandalising the Coldplay discography, can you please block him again. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 12:02, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppet resurfaces
Northsaintpaulresident has come back at Maplewood, Minnesota. They also appear to be inserting the blog link in other pages about nearby NSP cities Oakdale, Minnesota and Woodbury, Minnesota. .:davumaya:. 22:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

yo
slightly oversensitive aren't you there, eh? i guess you consider anything a personal attack, even me saying, eh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.117.146 (talk) 03:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Funny enough, I wouldn't term it ORIGINAL research...
Since that same method of counting is also used by plenty of news outlets, as stated by several people on that thread. That surely counts as being "established," if not by the IOC. It is not a personal improvement; I didn't invent it. It may be fairly presented as an alternative to the flawed method of organization currently used, and I am presenting it as such. --68.97.115.26 (talk) 06:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * In any case, regardless of our differences on this issue, didn't you suggest that the "medal count" be called instead the "medal table"? I support that.  I have added a section break immediately below yours stating as much, and giving an IOC-related citation to support my position.  I would appreciate it if you would back me up.  --68.97.115.26 (talk) 06:39, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Never mind. Someone did it.  I'm satisfied, and I'll make no more trouble there.  --68.97.115.26 (talk) 07:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Medal Table Page
I trust you warned the user who continually referred to the Amerikkkan media. Kingnavland (talk) 03:44, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Power abuse
According to Administrators I shall express my concerns directly to the administrator responsible. You were not neutral in this matter. You were fighting to keep my edits away from the article. You first threatened me and later blocked me. I didn’t notice that because I was following Triathlon. You somehow managed to make a fake unblocking while my account was still blocked. If we assume it was a mistake you must learn how to unblock properly.

The athlete Kim Jong Su from North Korea was disqualified due to doping and his silver and bronze medals were taken from him and North Korea. In 2008 Summer Olympics medal table you can read that he was stripped of his two medals and that two non-Koreans got his silver and bronze medals. In the 2008 Summer Olympics medal table you can see that North Korea is tallying 1 silver and 3 bronze medals (which is correct). Volunteers write the Wikipedia and the quality is obvious changing. If nobody cares about North Korea, the figures could be wrong. Wikipedia is also full of articles where sections, tables and captions contradict each other so people reading Wikipedia must have a sound suspicion regarding facts. In this case readers learn that North Korea has lost one silver and one bronze medal so they could doubt if Wikipedia has remembered to subtract these two medals from the Medal table. I inserted an asterisk at North Korea and a line at the bottom of the table stating "exclusive the two medals of Kim Jong Su who was disqualified for doping.". Now readers could be convinced that his medals were subtracted. Opposite the Swedish wrestler who lost his bronze medal there is no doubt whether the wrestler's medal has been subtracted from Sweden or not since Sweden has no bronze medals left.

My edit was removed with remarks as "See: Changes in medal standings section" which is problematic as I've mentioned above.

Your removal "medal changes already listed in its own section... also there are never "asterisks" in the IOC tally" fails to comprehend user's doubt and introduces IOC. Since this is Wikipedia and not IOC it was a strange argument.

Your second removal "we follow IOC conventions; adding asterisks would violate WP:NOR... plz discuss your proposed changes on the talk page... thanks" introduced a request to discuss my change on the talk page i.e. ask for permission to edit our article. Why not turn the issue upside down: unless edits are nonsense, wrong or pure vandalism the new edits shouldn't be reversed right away and the opponents should open a discussion regarding their aversions against the newcomer. An instant removal of new edits is an arrogant way of saying "I posses the ownership to this article".

I reinserted my edit without the asterisks in question. According to the summary the asterisks were your major problem and since I omitted them, my reinsertion must have pleasured you. I also inserted a hidden message to avoid good faith editors in subtracting Kim Jong Su's medals a second time.

Scorpion0422's removal "There is already a changes in medal standings section, which explains exactly what happened. Doing it twice is overkill, why not also note which nations gained a medal or Aras Abrahamian?)" showed a lack of understanding to the issue. There could still be a doubt regarding the total number of North Korean medals. Furthermore two unrelated edits were reverted (perhaps Scorpion0422 was trigger happy with the [undo] button ;-)

I reinserted the small edits reverted contemporary with the disputed line because they were not part of the disagreement but I didn't reinserted the disputed line again because the Triathlon was starting (in real life). Then you sentenced me a 24-hour blocking in order to help you opinion.

Tell me what is it exactly that are upsetting you regarding my edit? Is it because an otherwise beautiful table becomes ugly with this extra line? Is Wikipedia reserved for readers who has got the information already?

Take one step back and imagine that you are a reader seeking information. Wouldn't it be better if you got an answer you feel comfortable with instead of this preying feeling whether Kim Jong Su's medals are included or not. Don't answer 'I would look it up in a newspaper' because then you could might as well delete the whole article.

Often articles are edited by different people - some focus on tables, some on images and some on certain paragraphs. A note in the table indicates that his medals are excluded in the table. Tables are for information at a glance so what’s the point of this table if readers are going to dig out the information anyway. The paragraph "Changes in medal standings" is only telling half the truth so my edit isn't redundant. Image captions are necessary even if they are redundant information. It's all about communication. --Regards, Necessary Evil (talk) 21:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

While I'm sorry that the unblock procedure did not work properly, the fact is your contentious edits have been removed by multiple editors. (See page history) This suggests that you should be discussing your proposed edits to sway consensus in a different direction. I've created a section in the talk page allowing editors to discuss your recent edits. --Madchester (talk) 23:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Link Removal
Please stop removing links that I add for the benefit of Wiki users. They are not factually incorrect nor are they spam. Therefore, you have no right. Please explain why you can decide what is and what is not appropriate, detail how the links can become considered appropriate according to the so-called rules or else please stop deleting them. Thank you. Raincoat50 (talk) 21:43, 4 November 2008 (UTC)