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The Downlink: Issue 2

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Talk:Indian Space Research Organisation
Just to explain why I placed it Top. There are ~5500 articles in Wikiproject Spaceflight and growing. Considering I've been the one adding most of these I've had a chance to compare all the different articles we have, I feel that we are large enough to consider that most of the agencies for example that spend at least a $1Billion dollars a year are of Top importance, this still leaves plenty of agencies under High, Mid etc. That's the rational when I created the Spaceflight sidebar. The importance criteria Mlm42 made when we only had 2000 articles may have worked then but it is far too strict now that If I were to follow it rigidly there would be only a handful of Top and High articles and everything else would be Low or Mid, I don't think that is particularly useful. ChiZeroOne (talk) 19:25, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Top should be reserved for agencies that are the most active and with the longest histories in human spaceflight and exploration rather than based on budget. NASA, ESA, and Roscosmos right now meet that criteria.  An argument could be made for including CNSA based on their limited success in human spaceflight.  I just dont see ISRO meeting this criteria yet.  They have no indigenous human space flight program and a limited unmanned history.  Their rocket fleet is notable but critical components come from Roscosmos in many cases.  Can ISRO reach top status, certainly, but I dont see them there yet.  In short top should be based on the subjects importance to spaceflight rather than the amount of money they spend.  After all some of that budget can end up in failed orbit (like the Russians this week) or in the Bay of Bengal (like ISRO over the past few months).  That doesn't contribute much.--RadioFan (talk) 19:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Permission Request
Dear RadioFan,

I appreciate your response. We would like to use the image in the Virginia Standards of Learning exam as part of a test question. For this test, we would need to request 350,000 print rights, secure web rights (for test delivery over a secure website) and non-secure web rights (to place the image in an eBook of the released exam.) Please let me know if this is permissible, and whether I may send you a license agreement. Thank you.

Best Regards,

Jim JhallidayETS (talk) 16:57, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Using that image in the way you describe is okay with me but it was taken in the 'Discover the Real George Washington' traveling exhibit at the North Carolina Museum of History in Raleigh, NC. The exhibit  was organized by the Mount Vernon Ladies’ Association (http://www.mountvernon.org/mountvernon/about_us/index.cfm/), you should contact them to see if any additional permission is necessary from them or the artist. --RadioFan (talk) 17:20, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

STS-134
RE: "STS-135 is on the program manifest being planned so labeling 134 as "penultimate planned mission" is appropriate."

It is accurate, but it's also wordy.

Hopefully Congress will cough up the money soon.

Thanks for your contributions. --Utahredrock (talk) 04:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hopefully it will be funded. Congress has been needlessly wishy-washy on NASA 2011 direction and funding. But thats just my opinion.  As for the wording of the 134 article, I agree its wordy and wouldn't mind seeing something better but I'd rather have wordy than wrong.

TLE
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Two-line_element_set Your edit was not all that good! Regards! Stamcose (talk) 10:36, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I disagree, it was a fine edit. Fortran code doesn't belong in the article.  If you've got problems with the code published by the Federal Government, find a reliable source that backs up your claim and add this information to the article, not corrected FORTRAN code.  Wikipedia is not a code repository and FORTRAN isn't all that relavent anymore anyway.--RadioFan (talk) 14:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Query
I thought this to be an issue of close paraphrasing, not copyvio.  ceran  thor 03:57, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought it was close enough to be a copyvio. Essentially a copy paste with names replacements with pronouns.--RadioFan (talk) 04:01, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications
Hi

The topic "Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications" is specifically designed for DNS and NTP. These two networking protocols use UDP for communication. Bundling Anycast with intelligence on a hardened Linux based appliance is what makes this article unique. Please assist in publishing this article.

Thanks Eric

Wagnereric (talk) 12:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)WagnerEric


 * I"m sorry but I dont see this subject warranting a dedicated article, subsection dedicated to UDP would cover it sufficiently. Also, please do not copy and paste material from elsewhere.  Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously this is why the article was removed.--RadioFan (talk) 15:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications
Dear RadioFan,

Please note that I have added references at the bottom of the article titled "Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications". This topic is not a well known topic because the folks who deal with the Cisco Routing technology don't know about the Platforms and Storage technologies and vice versa. An appliance, which integrates the server intelligence into the routing protocols is what makes this articles unique. UDP is a directionless and stateless protocol, which derives a maximum benefit from a robust design as described in the article. If you feel that I should do more to improve the article, please let me know.

Regards Wagnereric (talk) 04:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Eric

Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications
Dear RadioFan,

No portion of this article has any line copied from any website. This is my typed work.

Regards Eric. Wagnereric (talk) 04:29, 16 February 2011 (UTC)Eric


 * understood and removing the copyrighted material is appreciated. However concerns about the suitability of the topic for a dedicated article still persist and the article lacks any references to help demonstrate its notability.--RadioFan (talk) 04:43, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications
Dear RadioFan,

The existing article about Anycast gives a high level concept of Anycast.

The article "Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications" discusses how the appliances use intelligence in determining the health of the stateless protocol and make a timely decision and auto-recover from a network outage or an attack.

I feel that these two articles do not have a significant overlap.

Regards Eric. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wagnereric (talk • contribs) 04:58, 16 February 2011 (UTC) I and other editors disagree and feel that a dedicated article is not warranted here. If you would like to improve the anycast article, that would be great. Be sure to footnote your references to reliable sources however.--RadioFan (talk) 05:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications
Dear RadioFan,

You will not find many articles/references which go into the details that are mentioned in "Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications". Reason: The Cisco/Juniper experts and the Linux Experts are the masters in their respective domains. Overlapping these two is not a well known technology to many. Extensive searches on RedHat/Centos sites or Oracle sites or Cisco/Juniper sites does not cover on how to build a smart appliance leveraging BGP/OSPF routing protocols.

Regards Eric Wagnereric (talk) 05:02, 16 February 2011 (UTC)WagnerEric


 * Please add this level of detail in the anycast article. Please stop creating a dedicated one.  it is not necessary.  Also please remember to WP:CITE your sources.  Simply listing URLs at the end of the article does not provide the level of detail needed to see where you obtained the information from.  It's hard to see it as anything other than your own thoughts which is not something that can be accepted by Wikipedia.--RadioFan (talk) 05:05, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Intelligent Anycast appliances for UDP based applications
Dear RadioFan,

I will try my best to improve the quality of my article. I appreciate your comments and I'm feeling challenged to do a better job. I will be improving the content shortly.

This is my first article. If you can point me towards a good Wikipedia reference, I can get an idea about the gaps in my article and I can work on fixing it.

Regards Eric Wagnereric (talk) 05:05, 16 February 2011 (UTC)WagnerEric.


 * There is excellent information on creating your first article in the welcome message on the top of your talk page. Please start there.  Also please slow down.  Do a bit of editing in the sandbox first and learn how to properly cite your sources.  You'll have much more success that way.--RadioFan (talk) 05:07, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I removed your PROD notice for Paul P. Enns
I just wanted to clarify my reasons for removing your proposal to delete this article. It is my estimation that each member of the translation team for the New American Standard Bible is notable for that very reason. For instance, on page 90 of The Complete Guide to Bible Translations, it states "These theological conservative translators are now acknowledged, and a small sampling includes such well-known biblical scholars as Gleason Archer, Kenneth Barker, Charles Feinberg, E. F. Harrison, J. Barton Payne, Merrill Tenney, Bruce Waltke, Kenneth Wuest, Paul Enns, and Harold Hoehner." It is my goal to see to it that each of these contributors have at least a basic biographical sketch on Wikipedia that would include their academic qualifications for a project of this magnitude and importance, as well as some other work for which they may be notable. If you do a quick search on Enns' major other publication, you'll note that it is extremely widely cited, which is another qualification for notability on Wikipedia. I hope this helps dissuade you from considering him "unremarkable". Ἀλήθεια 05:07, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: UK Border Force
Hello RadioFan, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of UK Border Force, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Contains sufficient content to be a stub. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. SmartSE (talk) 17:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I disagree. I've now tagged it for sources and context, but if I had seen it before you declined the speedy I would have likely deleted it. Syrthiss (talk) 17:51, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Raj Musix logo.jpg
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Your deletion notice, Kristian Østby
How is an article about someone dead for 30 years a BLP? Don't pay any attention to the cat:1981 deaths and dod in the first sentence at all... Paaln (talk) 04:30, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Please check your PROD on this article. FWiW, the article is not about a living person, is a notable subject, and has references... Bzuk (talk) 05:02, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it was an oversight. Thanks for removing the prod notice.  Everybody makes mistakes and I made this one.  The sarcasm is not necessary.--RadioFan (talk) 13:00, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Gamaeshastra
Why are you deleting the gameshastra page repeatedly. If there is a content violation, then let us know we will take care. Repeatedly deleting something without any valid reason is preposterous and not in the spirit of wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldruff (talk • contribs) 06:07, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of List of call centre companies in Pakistan for deletion debate.
Dear Brother,

I highly appreciate your comments regarding my article List of call centre companies in Pakistan my apologies as I am very much new in Wikipedia therefore I did not regarding that policy however you can view my article now the problem has been solve and kindly do not delete it the reason is The Information Given on article is truly correct and one can verify the source from Pakistan Software Export Board who is license issuer of Call Centers in Pakistan on their website which is already mentioned in the references of article as I am in call center industry it self for past 6 Years therefore I know what I wrote however quality can be major concern and I can certainly assure you that I will improve the quality of article and help me in that as my dream is to be the Wikipedia administrator one day therefore I love Wikipedia and do respect the polices from heart and soul.

I really appreciate the message and comment on my article I would love keep in touch with you in order to make Wikipedia more informative.

Yours Truly, --Faizanalivarya (talk) 06:12, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. I dont think anyone doubts that the information is correct, the concern is that it may not be appropriate for Wikipedia.  While articles consisting entirely of lists are common, directories of companies or similarly broadly defined lists are difficult to maintain with any completeness and are generally deleted as a result.  A discussion has begun on the article and you are welcome to share your thoughts there by following the link at the top of the page.  Please review the WP:AFD process before adding comments there.--RadioFan (talk) 11:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I appreciate your feedback regards my article however if you think this article is a type of directory so i think you all your due respect you should read this article List of call centre companies which is completely based on directory it has not deleted yet or ask for deleting because this is a list of call centers and same thing goes here as this is a list of call centers based in Pakistan, I can assure you that I will certainly keep an eye on this article and update and maintain with full responsibility as I do respect policy and standard of Wikipedia therefore I will request you to approve this article and kindly settle the issue, I highly appreciate your help quite thankful to you to guide me. :) --Faizanalivarya (talk) 05:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

B96 Pepsi SummerBash
Hi! I just wanted to strike up a discussion in regard to the B96 Pepsi SummerBash article which you redirected into the WBBM-FM article. While I might typically agree that the proper move would be to redirect, I believe that this event - like others such as 102.7 KIIS-FM's Jingle Ball and Wango Tango - have been around long enough and have run for enough years in succession that it is notable enough to have its own article. While I understand that this may be OR, SummerBash is very highly regarded in the industry as one of the premier events in the U.S., in terms of radio station events. I do recognize that the article as it currently exists is short and very stub-like, but it could be expanded with additional time and more eyes than my own taking a look at it. Strikerforce (talk) 05:02, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it should be moved under your user area so that you may have time to expand it to the point where notability will be apparent.?--RadioFan (talk) 05:05, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * If you take a look at my contributions, you'll see that the article was created in my user space first, then brought to the main. I would contend that notability is established in the lead paragraph, namely "The B96 Pepsi SummerBash is an annual concert, typically held on the second Saturday in June, in the Chicago area" and "The event is considered to be one of the premier annual radio station concerts in the U.S. by many in the radio industry, along with events such as the KIIS-FM Jingle Ball, Wango Tango, Z100 Jingle Ball, and rock station 105.7 The Point - St. Louis' Point Fest". The issue that I have had, thus far, has been in finding reliable sources with information about the event prior to 2006, its first year at Toyota Park. I have noted this on the article's talk page and asked for the assistance of other editors. As I mentioned above, the article is probably best described currently as a stub, but I believe that it is sourced well enough to this point that it can - and should - stand on its own. (FYI - I am watching this page, so you don't need to leave a TB on mine unless you're just aching to do so! :) ) Strikerforce (talk) 05:11, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * considered to be one of the premier annual radio station concerts in the U.S. by many in the radio industry is a very big claim and it's not sourced. This kind of language raises some red flags with new page patroller like me which is why the article is receiving scrutiny.  I'm still not seeing why this cant be adequately covered on the stations article.--RadioFan (talk) 12:17, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Using that theory, why would we not redirect KIIS-FM Jingle Ball into the KIIS-FM article? Both are major events attended by 20,000+ people each year, held in major metropolitan areas by notable radio stations in those metropolitan areas (and, in the case of both 102.7 KIISFM and B96, notable radio stations throughout the entire industry), typically covered in alternate forms of media (print news, television, and - in recent years - online), and are continuously-running events of 15+ years. If it were a once-off concert held in a small market, yes, I would say redirect it to the radio station's article or merge the content into a section of that article. But, this is a signature event of one of the heritage signals in the third-largest radio market in the United States... to me, that's enough for notability. Strikerforce (talk) 21:06, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Let's focus on this article and not worry about WP:OTHERSTUFF. I would think that an event this large would receive some print or TV coverage.  Hasn't there been anything in the local newspapers?--RadioFan (talk) 22:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Chicago Sun-Times and Chicago Tribune are both used as references in the article. Strikerforce (talk) 00:19, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, I am not trying to use OTHER. My comment is in regard to the fact that this event, like the example I gave, draws over 20,000 people each year, is an annual event, etc, which would qualify it as notable, the rest of my previous statement notwithstanding. Strikerforce (talk) 00:22, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

75.83.239.83 (talk) 03:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC) Minx (band)
Hi, I am a major contributor to this article What can I do to make this article acceptable for Wikipedia. I am quite sure it does have enough credibility-
 * I'm sorry, I really cant tell from the above post what you are referring to.--RadioFan (talk) 04:10, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minx_(band) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.83.239.83 (talk) 04:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, 75! Just glancing at the article, I would suggest references from reliable sources. Also, it appears that the creator of the article may have a close connection to the article's subject, which is typically frowned upon because a situation like that has a tendency to lead to original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Strikerforce (talk) 05:27, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

About article "RSDUY"
A lot of information about RSDUY contains in Russian-language web-sites. If this is enough - no problem, I'll add links on Russian. Yes, on English not many information about RSDUY.

What can I do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skilpaddle (talk • contribs) 15:42, 26 February 2011 (UTC)


 * You can start with signing your posts, it helps me know who I'm responding to. I'm certainly no expert in Russian politics but those references look problematic.  The 2nd one definately does not meet the requirement of reliable sources, it's a self published blog.  The first one has a broken URL so it's hard to judge either way.--RadioFan (talk) 01:00, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I prescribed one actually reference. Pages on this site was move to another link. We have problem - information about Russian politics not published on English - only about officials. --Flyge Skilpadde - Flying Turtle (talk) 14:53, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * When this article was brought up for deletion discussion, that deletion was withdrawn based on references in [ru:Российский социал-демократический союз молодёжи|the version of the article in the russian version of Wikipedia]]. Could you use some of those references to improve this article.--RadioFan (talk) 15:46, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Amy Harris (English athlete) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Amy Harris (English athlete). Since you had some involvement with the Amy Harris (English athlete) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Hobit (talk) 04:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Philadelphia Science Fiction Society
The PSFS, as clearly stated in the article, is one of the oldest such organizations in the United States if not the world; it was not an appropriate subject for an A7 nomination.

It has been suggested in a recent article in File 770 that you are part of some kind of vendetta against science-fiction-fandom-related articles. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  16:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)-- Orange Mike   &#x007C;   Talk  16:15, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a very serious accusation and all involved must assume good faith. Such an accusation would be appropriate against a flurry of deletion requests on well sourced articles, but that's not the case here. This particular claim is not referenced at all.  This isn't a case of a simple boastful claim in an article, the entire article is completely unreferenced and reads like a fan page, thus the deletion request.  Each of the articles mentioned in this "vendetta" are very poorly referenced, often with the club website if at all.  My only problem is with articles that do not meet notability guidelines, nothing else. Many of the editors involved are either new or very infrequent contributors who have proven to be very territorial here.  They are taking any suggestion that the article not meeting guidelines very personally.  The focus needs to be on Wikipedia notability guidelines and either providing the reliable sources necessary to meet those guidelines or delting the articles, not on individual editors.  While I appreciate that these are new editors, and we must be careful not to attack the newbies, that's got to be balanced with notability guidelines.--RadioFan (talk) 16:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)