User talk:Madman/Archive 7

Hampton Theatre Company possible copyright infringement
MadMan Bot is correct that the text in question in the LinkedIn profile is the same as the text of the Hampton Theatre Company Wikipedia article. The LinkdIn profile appears to have used the same source material that was used for the Hampton Theatre Company Wikipedia article. The text in question was taken from the Hampton Theatre Company website with the permission of the Executive Director Sarah Hunnewell and the Founder James Ewing.Vrasulo (talk) 05:29, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
 * When contributing content that has been previous published elsewhere on the Web (in this case, the content on the Hampton Theatre Company's Web site), it is necessary to follow the Donating copyrighted materials policy so we may have the Company's representatives' permission in writing. We do this in order to protect their interests. Please let me know if you should have any further questions. Thank you, &mdash; madman 22:14, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Jodorowsky's Dune
Hey madman,

You pointed out that my article might be copied from a certain article from Breaking Time, but it's the Breaking Time article that explicitly refers to wikipedia with (in-text citations). In other words, both I and Breaking Time cut and pasted the same portion of the wikipedia article on Alejandro Jodorowsky for our own.

Here's the article you found: http://thebreakingtime.typepad.com/the_breaking_time/2010/01/jodorowsky-dali-and-the-dune-that-never-was.html

So the real question is how do I cite a wikipedia article in a wikipedia article?

(wikiception o_O ...)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by VincentXP38 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. I don't think you should be citing Wikipedia for any material challenged or likely to be challenged; Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, is not considered a reliable or secondary source. But you should put the template on your article for creation's talk page so the contributors to the Alejandro Jodorowsky article are properly attributed. Thanks, &mdash; madman 22:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect tagging by bot
When I created the Digital current loop interface by splitting out material from another article I explained this including a link to the source article in the edit summary. It seems unnecessary, if not inappropriate, for the bot to place a tag the article - it doesn't even wait a few seconds for the editor to complete the WP:SPLIT. Can the bot be changed to check the edit summary? If not can you advise at WP:SPLIT how to avoid the new article being tagged. DexDor (talk) 20:33, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You performed the split appropriately, and I apologize for the false positive. I'm not currently approved to add new functionality to the bot (just to duplicate the functionality of CorenSearchBot), but I'm going to get that approval as soon as possible; I'm working on a major rewrite. Thank you for your patience! &mdash; madman 22:07, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect tagging at AfC
It seems that the bot thinks that an article over at AfC is a copyright violation simply because it, at the time of review, contained a copy of some lines from a discussion forum. The lines that appeared to be a copy were nothing more than parts of a template for a new AfC article. Specifically, the only content on the page, other than the name of the subject and afc submission template was

==References==



which is what appears to have been tagged as the violation

see Old version of article

— Gmt2001 (talk) 08:48, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Saw the same thing [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Gibss&oldid=554079186 here]. Thanks for all your work on getting AfC tagging working, I've deleted quite a few so far :) Legoktm (talk) 13:15, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. The template is removed, but I'm pretty sure I've found a bug in the original code that prevents comments from being removed properly. I'll run a few tests and take care of it; in the meantime, I'm pleased to hear the bot at least seems to be doing some good. Cheers, &mdash; madman 22:05, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Were you able to implement the new code? I found 2 more that were "copyvios" of the same url: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/AlikeAds&direction=next&oldid=555162350 1], [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Undelete&target=Wikipedia+talk%3AArticles+for+creation%2F100000000000000000&timestamp=20130514161454 2]. Legoktm (talk) 08:37, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, the template and comments are both removed properly; I ran the original article through the normalizewikitext subroutine and all I got was 'Baghdad School References'. So I don't know what could have possibly happened; that input should have been thrown out as having too few tokens. The data should be XML encoded and that's what the subroutine assumes, but I'm going to put in fallbacks in case it's not; hopefully that will solve the problem. Do let me know if you see it again. Thanks! &mdash; madman 03:00, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! &mdash; madman 03:02, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

please stop the madness
I am really irked with Madmanbot's copyvio tags. If it were just the tag and it placed it in a category it would be easier to clean up. But it gets placed in multiple logfiles so cleaning up from errors is just too annoying and difficult. Most recently, article content was wrongly included in category space and had been for some time; so I created the article and sent the category to CFD. Sure enough Madmanbot was triggered. Not only are the notices spewed in multiple locations, but because the source (Wikipedia!) was a category, it's not even tagged correctly, and now the various copyvio logs show up in the category. .... A couple of weeks ago Madmanbot was triggered by a title of a book, which was an excerpt from a well-known quotation in a legal case. ... Prior to that, Madmanbot was triggered by a blockquote of a publisher's description of a book. I really, really would like you to set the MadManBot to be less freaking sensitive. It is a waste of my time to have to go around dealing with this. And I *have* to, because the tags that MadManBot places on the articles are so large and unsightly, and the copyvio allegations so oblique and painfully stupid sometimes that it would take another reviewer an unseemly long amount of time to figure it out. PLEASE calibrate or kill this bot. --Lquilter (talk) 00:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't really know what to say to this; I'm sorry you've been disappointed by MadmanBot's performance, but I think it's proven to be well nigh invaluable to recent changes and SCV patrollers. To take some of your points in order:


 * 1) The only report page MadmanBot uses is WP:SCV; WP:CP includes this report as a subpage, but that was the WP:CP patrollers' choice to make the reports more accessible. The bot also uses the contributors' talk page, but I assume you're not asserting that contributors of possibly copyrighted content shouldn't be warned that their contribution may be speedily deleted.
 * 2) The category issue sounds like a defect; I'll look into it and resolve it (it's probably just a template tweak).
 * 3) Can you point me at the article on which MadmanBot was triggered by a book title? I suspect there was more to it as MadmanBot has thresholds for number of tokens that must be matched and the Wagner-Fischer difference between sources.
 * 4) MadmanBot should have been triggered by a publisher's description of a book, because publishers' descriptions are copyrighted.
 * 5) I agree with you about the notices; I didn't write them and I was glad to see them included in the Wikimedia Foundation's A/B testing of more "friendly"/accessible templates. Unfortunately that testing did not complete successfully as CorenSearchBot went offline in the middle of it. However, the bot does make an effort to leave friendlier messages and welcome messages on new contributors' talk pages as a show of good faith. If we get another round of A/B testing, I'm going to make sure CorenSearchBot's templates are included again (they're not really mine, I just inherited them).
 * That was a big wall of text, so I'm going to end it there. Please let me know if any of the above doesn't make sense and/or if you have any further questions. Thanks! &mdash; madman 23:48, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

I know you're busy, but a possible task that might be of help....
I'm working through, by hand, a list of stale AfC Contributions that had been declined as promotional. User:Joe Decker/Promotional  I would guess that half of them turn out to be copyright violations when I look. Is there any way that MadmanBot could be turned to the task of identifying even a fraction of those so that I don't have to do them by hand? I'd still hand-verify, but even the "Hey, check this URL" indications for those that it was able to find a problem for would be awesome.

Alternatively, as a second choice, if you could handhold me through revising the existing so that I can do the tests myself, but perhaps not actually touch any articles (something that might not require a BRFA), ... I've done some very minor PERL/Mediawiki coding (e.g., User:Joe's Null Bot, User:Joe's Olympic Bot) ... and I'd be glad when facing trying to assault a 70,000 article backlog to have some technology at my side. Cheers, --j⚛e deckertalk 22:32, 28 May 2013 (UTC)


 * PS, thank you for the work on live AfC submissions. It's been a real help!  --j⚛e deckertalk 23:03, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Aha, there's a manual configuration... --j⚛e deckertalk 03:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, there is; glad you found it. Let me know if I can do anything to help! Cheers, &mdash; madman 23:37, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! One thing for now, just to double-check, MadmanBot looks off for the last day or two?     As far as my list, let me play with sending a dozen or two through the manual interface.  It may be, as most of these will already have seen a MadManBot or a CorenSearchBot in the past, that there isn't much more to pick up through those algorithms.   Or it could be there is. If there is, then I might come back to you and talk strategy, that's a big pile to dig through.  :)  Thanks!  --j⚛e deckertalk 00:53, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, wow, thanks for letting me know. For some reason Nagios didn't notify me this time. I've given it a vicious kick. Thanks, &mdash; madman 23:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem, thank you!  --j⚛e deckertalk 01:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Just a follow-up, I think I'm going to have to go through most manually, sadly--I think what's happening, and I should have figured this out in advance, is an obvious case of selection bias, most of the ones that are left here likely already passed by CorenBot or MadmanBot, and not much has changed since then (in the articles). So most that weren't caught by the 'bot are still not caught by the 'bot.   I do appreciate your help, and MadmanBot's--there is no question that this pile would be enormously larger without your (and Coren's) help!  Please let me know if I can ever be of assistance.  Cheers,  --j⚛e deckertalk 15:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Zeinal bava
Dear ,

Regarding the following message you left me:

"It seems to me that an article you worked on, Zeinal bava, may be copied from http://ir.telecom.pt/InternetResource/PTSite/UK/Canais/Investidores/GovernodaSociedade/Gestao/zeinal_bava. It's entirely possible that I made a mistake, but I wanted to let you know because Wikipedia is strict about copying from other sites.

It's important that you edit the article and rewrite it in your own words, unless you're absolutely certain nothing in it is copied. If you're not sure how to fix the problem or have any questions, there are people at the help desk who are happy to assist you.

Thank you for helping build a free encyclopedia! MadmanBot (talk) 15:39, 31 May 2013 (UTC)"

I felt free to publish that text because it was written by me and my team regarding that matter. I'm currently working at the Communication department of Portugal Telecom and we are currently updating and improving the information about our companies and main people in many websites, including obviously Wikipedia. Despite it is published on another website, it is not a copy, it is our intellectual property and almost every paragraph is referred to other independent sources.

I understand your concerning, but please consider these facts and let me know if we can publish the content again.

Thank you very much for your support,

DMCarneiro (talk) 11:34, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If you'd like to release content to Wikipedia that's been previously published on another Web site, it's recommended that you follow the procedure at Donating copyrighted materials. The easiest thing to do is post a notice on the Web site indicating that its contents have been released under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License; the second easiest thing to do is e-mail a permissions statement to permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org. Please understand that we require this procedure in order to protect your own intellectual property rights. Please let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks, &mdash; madman 02:40, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Ride the Wild Wind
Dear MadMan you can see that the material I took is from Queen's Innuendo album.You can check it out I didn't copy anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabbathbloodness (talk • contribs) 19:19, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * This appears to be a copyright violation to me. The content you contributed is structurally and substantively similar to the information on the last.fm page MadmanBot identified. If the information is from the album booklet or some such, it is copyrighted by the publishers of the album. &mdash; madman 21:18, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

International Code of Medical Ethics
Good Morning,

Just to inform that I will remove the tag about Copyright problem at the page International Code of Medical Ethics. I also inform that I already put the correct references in the page.

I'm updating all the pages related to the World Medical Association, since I'm an intern at this organization.

Regards, Agostinho.Sousa
 * Please keep Wikipedia's conflict of interest policies in mind; your organization may be better served by having a Wikipedia contributor not associated with the organization update the articles related to it. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; madman 21:19, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

False positive
Got the duplicated text warning because a Wikipedia mirror site, http://wikipedia.sfstate.us/, had the same material. ENeville (talk) 23:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Added to the list of known Wikipedia mirrors so you should not have this problem in the future. Thanks, &mdash; madman 21:21, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Sopra Banking Software Copyright
Dear,

I received a notification saying that information on the wiki page of Sopra Banking Software coincidates with information found on LinkedIn. That is true, we are also the owner of the content on LinkedIn.

Regards, Sofie Meremans  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SopraBankingSoftware (talk • contribs) 09:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If the content you are contributing has been published elsewhere on the Web, please follow Wikipedia's procedure for donating copyrighted material. You can either place a text release at the source of the content or e-mail permissions-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org to verify that the content has been released under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License. Please understand that we require this procedure in order to protect your own intellectual property rights; please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; madman 21:23, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

rewrite in own words
Hi Madman,

The article Nayyar Sultana has been rewritten in author's own words where necessary keeping in view the given reference.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muzammil786 (talk • contribs) 23:37, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The original article was deleted per CSD g12, but it looks like your Articles for Creation submission was approved and is now in the article namespace. Congratulations! Thanks, &mdash; madman 21:24, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Cinema therapy
I have posted on note on Talk:Cinema therapy. The article is absolutely not a violation of an entry from the dictionary. It is handled properly with "".

You will see that the article is properly cited.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 12:51, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks and my apologies for the false positive! Cheers, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:28, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

was moving the article from the Lana Nordin
please delete the old one with the wrong name http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lana_Nordin

K9x (talk) 04:58, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I've moved your move request to the talk page. We can only delete the old article based on consensus that it has the incorrect name; also, you should never cut and paste article content to a new article (please see: Copying within Wikipedia). Please let me know if you have any questions; I'm sure of your good faith in creating this new article but it's problematic for a number of reasons. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 07:35, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I cannot add webmii.asia to MadmanBot's exclude list because Wikipedia is only one of many sources that the site uses. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 07:37, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

1, CANVAS page
Dear Madman, The only reason I copied this first wikipedia page is that the title could not modified and it was an inaccurate one: the right name of the organization is The Centre for Applied Non-Violent Action and Strategies (rather than Centre for Applied Non Violent Actions and Strategies). This is verifiable on the organization's official website: http://www.canvasopedia.org/who-we-are. I therefore copied the whole page into a new one with the right title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raph.mim (talk • contribs) 14:42, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Please see Help:How to move a page for how to do this in the future. When articles are cut and pasted, all credit to contributors is lost. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 00:48, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Antidesma acidum
How is it possible to rewrite on my own words the binomial names of plants? The Plantlist is the world authority in binomial names of plants. Without using the synonyms of plants it will be absurd making plant related articles as others will start articles of the same plants in all synonyms.--Vinayaraj (talk) 15:20, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I apologize for the false positive. This is one of the instances in which information is not copyrightable; this is hard for a bot to detect. I don't currently have approval to modify the code, but when I do I'm going to attempt to add a heuristic to cover this instance exactly. Thank you, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:59, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

MadmanBot down?
Hi Madman, it appears MadmanBot has stopped editing as of about 2200hrs (UTC) yesterday. Could you take a look please? Pol430  talk to me  18:26, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I got a Nagios alert; unfortunately I wasn't able to get home for quite some time to restart the bot. It has since been restarted. Thank you! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:47, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Well, yes...
note: Request was made at User:MadmanBot/manual

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:MadmanBot/results&diff=561023589&oldid=560804237

Building information modeling‎, as of 06:06, 22 June 2013 (UTC), appears to be a copyright violation of Building information modeling.

Apologies if this is a "known issue", or my silly error in some way (I did screw up the formatting initially, then played with the existing requests because I thought the bot was stalled...(see history)), but I thought you might like to see it, so I'll leave it here for you. Cheers. Begoon &thinsp; talk 18:52, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That's weird; there's obviously a check in the code to prevent just that. I'll check this out in the next couple days; thanks for the report! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:50, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

I know
I just wanted to copy the style of www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki and i will change my edits to arabic Because the style of www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki is brilliant but i will translate every word in it into arabic for arabs thats it --Semo4499 (talk) 09:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

About Labconco Corporation
I read your message about the article of Labconco Corporation, the text I copied was referenced in the page http://www.labconco.com/company/company-history and http://www.labconco.com/company/about-labconco, and I had the authorization to copy the contain of the website from the owners, and the page sent has the same contain of the origin website http://www.pharmaceuticalonline.com/EcommCenter/Labconco because they talk about the same company, and I think they have copied the same text from the company website, it is indicated on the right of the page, Can you tell me how to restore my page please   ? Elboukharimu (talk) 15:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * (back from my two-week vacation; apologies for the delay) If you have permission to copy content that has previously been published on the Web, you'll need to follow the procedure at Donating copyrighted material so we can keep that permission on-file. That procedure is in place to protect Labconco's intellectual property. However, I note that the page was deleted due to advertising and promotion concerns, not due to the copyright concerns; I suggest that you wait for someone not in a conflict of interest with Labconco to write a more neutral article that will be suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. Thanks! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 23:18, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Sitala Mata material copied Issue
I had Received this massege

This is an automated message from MadmanBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Sitala Mata, and it appears to include material copied directly from http://tourism-independent-india.blogspot.com/2011/03/shitala-mata-hindu-goddess-widely.html.

It is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article. The article will be reviewed to determine if there are any copyright issues.

If substantial content is duplicated and it is not public domain or available under a compatible license, it will be deleted. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material. You may use such publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. See our copyright policy for further details. (If you own the copyright to the previously published content and wish to donate it, see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for the procedure.) MadmanBot (talk) 13:17, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Sitala Mata was contributed by some one else but not me i had just corrected spieling I had nothing to do with Sitala Mata — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkatsaikrishnakumar (talk • contribs) 17:09, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * You did create the page, on 13:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC), so I'm not sure what you're saying. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:13, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Bot down
Hey. Just a heads up that the bot's been down for a week, and updates were spotty for a little while before that. It's made clearing the backlog at SCV easier, but not exactly the way I want to clear it :) Wizardman  02:17, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, when you and the bot return, can you put Judgepedia on the whitelist per ? Thanks, Wizardman  15:37, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Restarted the bot when I saw this message, but hadn't gotten around to replying until now. :x Judgepedia added to the whitelist. Cheers, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:12, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your help.
Thank you for your help. I am quite new on Wikipedia. Will make sure the content on Trust Women Conference is corrected. Annyabiz (talk) 15:48, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for taking care of the problem yourself. Cheers and welcome to Wikipedia! Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:14, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Request for Attention
You're listed as an active member of the Bot Approvals Group. I would like to draw your attention to the outstanding WP:BRFA requests (including requests that are specificly flagging as need BAG attention). Please take a few minutes out of your busy schedule and take a look at the open requests. Thank you Hasteur (talk) 18:13, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm aware I'm neglecting my duties, and I apologize. I'll try to take a look sometime this week (more likely this weekend), but we're in the worst period at work I've experienced in as long as I've been with the company. Once we meet our deadlines at the end of the month, I'm hoping things will be a lot better. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:08, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Suncrown
Dear MadmanBot,

Thanks for contacting me on such short notice. I didn't copy the material from the powerprogmetal website, but from the band's Facebook page and adjusted it, because of its grammar and misspellings. This wiki of Suncrown is still in progress, because I'm no professional in making wiki's. Thank you for the warning, though. Ruurd Woltring (Talk), August 6th 2013, 12:16 —Preceding undated comment added 10:16, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Please note that material on Facebook is absolutely subject to copyright laws. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 22:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Possible malfunction of your bot
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Hi, Your Bot has tagged the article I just created as a copy of cyclopygidae. To me, the latter page cannot be found. Not starting the title with a capital is a mistake, if this page existed. I hope this will be solved soon. Regards, Dwergenpaartje (talk) 19:52, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. That means Yahoo! gave the bot the url on a search, which is strange, as it normally indexes the destination URL for a redirect. Looks like this was a one-time occurrence, but I apologize for the inconvenience. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 22:47, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Powerhouse (1999 band)
has been incorrectly tagged as a copyvio of http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/powerhouse/biography.html. Lyricsfreak has begun copying and pasting warts-and-all Wikipedia articles, and I'll be obliged if you could tell your bot this. Do I copy and paste from other Wikipedia articles? Yes, regularly. Do I copy and paste from other websites? No! I await your response.-- Laun  chba  ller  21:19, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added a pattern that hopefully should just match artists' biographies as the lyrics on the site are still subject to copyright. Please let me know if this doesn't work. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 22:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Peter Buffett Discography
"Hello Sutcliffe10, It seems to me that an article you worked on, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Peter Buffett discography, may be copied from http://www.wacbiz.com/Peter-Buffett/artist/866. It's entirely possible that I made a mistake, but I wanted to let you know because Wikipedia is strict about copying from other sites. It's important that you edit the article and rewrite it in your own words, unless you're absolutely certain nothing in it is copied. If you're not sure how to fix the problem or have any questions, there are people at the help desk who are happy to assist you. Thank you for helping build a free encyclopedia! MadmanBot (talk) 20:42, 13 August 2013 (UTC)"

Hi MadmanBot, the reason this information is the same is because it is a discography. The items that match up are either song titles, or album titles, which should fall into the public knowledge category. That website is a licensing site, not anything I've copied off of. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Peter_Buffett_discography --Sutcliffe10 (talk) 00:27, 14 August 2013 (UTC)Sutcliffe10
 * My apologies, that's one of the more common false positives MadmanBot has. I hope to add some heuristics to cut down on those false positives in the revamp I'm going to be testing next month. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 00:37, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Sadat Institute of Higher Education
Hi Dear Wikipedia User, your bot has tagged Sadat Institute of Higher Education for speedy deletion because it thinks I am using copyright text from website Sadat Institute of Higher Education. And I think you should remove that problem cause I am the (owner/publisher/copyright holder/webmaster) of that website...... And I have right to do any thing I want with my own materials... thanks -- SayedAzeemSadat (talk) 10:13, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you wish to contribute material to Wikipedia that has previously been published elsewhere, please follow the process at Donating copyrighted materials. This process is necessary to protect your intellectual property rights. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 14:05, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Shri Bala Ji Maharaj
dear madmanBot , I have not vcopied any contaent from any web sites...these things are fact about our Lord Bala Ji Maharaj thats why it seems to copied. where as I am the administrator of a web site its also look like same.n so Please publish this wiki page to all users. In case of any clearification please reach to me : contact.ashish126@gmail.com

Regads , Ashish Gupta — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaishribalaji (talk • contribs) 11:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The Web page didn't just look the same, it was exactly the same, which is why your submission was speedily deleted by per CSD g12. If you wish to contribute material to Wikipedia that has previously been published elsewhere, please follow the process at Donating copyrighted materials. This process is necessary to protect your intellectual property rights. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 14:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Sadat Institute of Higher Education
Hi Dear Wikipedia User, your bot has tagged Sadat Institute of Higher Education for speedy deletion because it thinks I am using copyright text from website Sadat Institute of Higher Education. And I think you should remove that problem cause I am the (owner/publisher/copyright holder/webmaster) of that website...... And I have right to do any thing I want with my own materials... thanks -- SayedAzeemSadat (talk) 10:13, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you wish to contribute material to Wikipedia that has previously been published elsewhere, please follow the process at Donating copyrighted materials. This process is necessary to protect your intellectual property rights. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 14:05, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Shri Bala Ji Maharaj
dear madmanBot , I have not vcopied any contaent from any web sites...these things are fact about our Lord Bala Ji Maharaj thats why it seems to copied. where as I am the administrator of a web site its also look like same.n so Please publish this wiki page to all users. In case of any clearification please reach to me : contact.ashish126@gmail.com

Regads , Ashish Gupta — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaishribalaji (talk • contribs) 11:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The Web page didn't just look the same, it was exactly the same, which is why your submission was speedily deleted by per CSD g12. If you wish to contribute material to Wikipedia that has previously been published elsewhere, please follow the process at Donating copyrighted materials. This process is necessary to protect your intellectual property rights. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 14:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

NGC 3377
as soon as the bot told me I couldn't do this I deleted it. Why is this still an issue a month after I deleted it myself?. I don't do wikipedia well, I'm a rookie and when I ask for advice on how to do it better these inquiries for the most part go unanswered

elrondaragorn (talk) 16:18, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you mean about it being a month since the bot notified you; unless you're referring to another article or account, the only notification the bot's given you was on 20:53, 20 July 2013 (UTC), after you left this message? &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

1991 Sugi 500km / 1991 Sugo 500km
Quite similarly, the article titled "1991 Sugi 500km" is spelt incorrectly. The "1991 Sugo 500km" is the correct. Also, please that I am the original author of both these articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordAnon of Essex (talk • contribs) 22:10, 19 August 2013‎ (UTC)
 * My apologies for the false positive. This can be avoided in the future by using MediaWiki's move functionality instead of cut-and-pasting text; the latter is flagged because it can cause attribution issues. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:29, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Jean-Marie Speich
Thank you. But I am still finalizing this draft. I would appreciate it if you could wait some time before posting further comments.--Sulbud (talk) 14:38, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

I am redirecting the former article due error in spelling. --Sulbud (talk) 14:47, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * As above, my apologies for the false positive; the bot was triggered by the cut-and-paste move. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Kingdragon (band)
Hi Dear Wikipedia User, your bot has tagged Kingdragon (band) for speedy deletion because it thinks I am using copyright text from website []. I'm the general manager of the band and I think you should remove that problem cause I am the (owner/publisher/copyright holder) of my bands belongings... And I have right to do any thing I want with my own materials... thanks! Chris Siloma 16:05, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * If you wish to contribute material to Wikipedia that has previously been published elsewhere, please follow the process at Donating copyrighted materials. This process is necessary to protect your intellectual property rights. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 14:05, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Some nuts and bolts for you!

 * Thanks! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:54, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Critical_realism_(philosophy_of_perception)
I just created this page, to split up the previous page Critical realism. The bot immediately posted a copyright infringement notice. I've removed this, as the blog post postdates http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Critical_realism&oldid=114533618: so the blog copied WP --- in fact it cites it --- not the other way around. Omicron18 (talk) 12:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Understood. My apologies for the false positive. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:53, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Part_Two_of_the_Constitution_of_India
Hello ! Part Two of the Constitution of India is not copied from http://www.thisweekbangalore.com/law-made-easy-p7.html. Its copied from http://lawmin.nic.in/olwing/coi/coi-english/Const.Pock%202Pg.Rom8Fsss(5).pdf. Which is not copyright protected ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mitrabarun (talk • contribs) 17:48, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, looks like laws, judicial opinions, and reports are indeed in the public domain. So your article was deleted in error. However, you might find that Wikisource is a better repository for such material; it's not really encyclopedic. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:57, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I posted an explanation on their talk page - the material is free to copy but restricted (and I quoted the actual wording from the site). It is not available for modification or use in derogatory contexts, which puts it in conflict with CC-BY-SA to my mind. It is only available for copying by sending them a mail, as well. They blanked the talk page a few minutes later, whereupon SwisterTwister posted a welcome. I'm not sure about WikiSource - is that CC-BY-SA like Wikipedia? If so, I don't think this would be suitable there either. Peridon (talk) 09:57, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Now I understand better why the article was deleted, though I'm seeing a lot of statements that are in conflict. You were referencing the National Informatics Centre's Terms of Use whereas I'm now referencing the Legislative Department Web Site's Terms of Use. The latter has less restrictions but is still restricted. says laws, judicial opinions, and reports are in the public domain, but that conflicts with the Legislative Department Web Site's Terms of Use, the Handbook of Copyright Law, and a simple reading of the Indian Copyright Act of 1957, all of which state that the government holds copyright for sixty years. Unless I'm missing something, I think  needs to be changed. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 17:26, 25 August 2013 (UTC) I've brought this up on 's talk page. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 17:34, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * (ec) ::::I was working on the .nic.in terms, because the site cited is lawmin.nic.in, and I felt sure that a restriction on the base site carried over onto the subsidiary sites - unless a disclaimer was shown on the subsidiary site (and I couldn't find a status notice at lawmin). The Government probably do hold the copyright but allow free and unmodified copying. This would mean I could copy it onto my website as it stood after mailing them, and there's be no problem. But copying to a site licensed under CC-BY-SA would not comply as future copiers (all those mirrors...) would fail to mail or prevent modification. Someone more expert than me needs to investigate, anyway. I'm going back to wood chopping - easier to understand and I must get it done... Peridon (talk) 17:45, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Dr. Mustafa Shameel article
Hey! I'm sorry I'm new to Wikipedia articles and I was actually just testing this :S I mainly wanted to gather all the information from other sources and organize them accordingly and then I would give the proper citations in the end. Actually Dr. Shameel is my grandfather and my mom told me to make a Wikipedia article with all the information already posted from his friends about him. But I don't know if I can do that... can I? :/ But thanks for your remarks! Also, is it possible that I can delete it for now? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rashmi Khaliq (talk • contribs) 02:04, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately you can't use the biography published by the Pakistan Academy of Sciences; they most likely hold the copyright to that biography. And when creating a Wikipedia article about a relative, please consider closely our guidelines on Notability and Conflict of interest. You may wish to wait for someone else to write a neutral article in their own words that's much less likely to be deleted. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:50, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Adminship
You placed a notice on my talk page. Please do not remove my adminship privileges. I am still around and have control of this account. PedanticallySpeaking (talk) 15:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Your act of editing has taken care of this. Thanks! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 01:20, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Copied sections
Thanks for your critics, Madman. I was just trying to create The Biggest Loser's new season on Wikipedia, because nobody had done it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idolcreation (talk • contribs) 00:56, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing this was a false positive due to the list of names; my apologies. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:46, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

anacbanua
we are currently updating the page. i have both authorization from the authors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malagilion (talk • contribs) 05:47, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If you have permission from the authors to republish material that has previously been published elsewhere, please follow the procedure at Donating copyrighted material to put that permission in the record (e-mail it to permissions-en at wikimedia.org). This procedure is necessary to protect the intellectual property rights of the authors and to make sure that they understand the implications of licensing their content under the CC-BY-SA 3.0 License. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:35, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

The Return of Philip Latinowicz
Yes, I see this page now, the text is very similar, however there isn't any copyright on it, so I think it is OK. Wouldn't you agree? Vila Velebita (talk) 18:24, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It says right on the page: "A book review by Danny Yee © 2005 http://dannyreviews.com/". Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:32, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Question regarding the CorenSearchBot tools
A question was asked at User_talk:Hasteur about integrating the CSB tools into the User:HasteurBot engine. Since I wrote most of the HasteurBot on top of Python and CSB is written in perl, I don't think I can directly call CSB without doing a shell out. I'd like to get your approval to do a python implementation of the core functionality of checking for the same types of violation and flag the page for human review.

I'm thinking of making the implementaiton such that it will be fed off a list of articles provided to it (so it's not locked into the NewPages feed) and support a configurable set of templates to not be as warning (and be able to use AfC targeted templates). Thanks Hasteur (talk) 14:12, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if this is viable right now... I'm working with Ocaasi and West.andrew.g on re-implementing MadmanBot's CSB task in Java, upon which we're going to make a lot of much-needed improvements, add new heuristics, and add new sources of material for copyright infringement detection. So the task is going to be in flux for the next couple of months at least. Also, you would need to get permission from the Foundation to use their Yahoo! BOSS account or acquire one yourself.
 * If you want any changes at all to MadmanBot functionality, please let me know and I'll be happy to implement them for you; I'm also going to be happy to share the source code of the reimplementation once it's reached a stopping point. I'm not saying that you can't use the original CSB code and User:MadmanBot/csb.pl for a reimplementation, but I think it's going to be more effective if we centralize our efforts on one bot. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:31, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hrm... How is MadmanBot invoked?  I see 2 potential options.  If it runs on the tools cluster, I'd like to be able to invoke a command line one off request of a specific enwiki page and get a yes/no or a threshold/evaluation response to determine that if MadmanBot had evaluated the page in mainspace, it would have applied the CSD:Copyright tag and etc.  If it's not on the tools cluster (or doesn't have a command line interface) I hope that it has a web trigger that can return the same effective results.  The idea is that admins want additional ammunition in the toolchest when HasteurBot goes around nominating for G13. I know that makes for a great many invocations for the amount of input data, but this would still keep your threshold limit and I can stay single threaded/blocked pending your response. Hasteur (talk) 14:10, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. It does currently have a trigger, User:MadmanBot/manual, that triggers that check and a response with the percentage confidence, but that probably doesn't meet your needs as an approach that is easily automated. I can try working on another Web trigger. The problem with a command-line approach is that the script is currently written in Perl and thus there is no way (that I know of) to allow it to execute without also allowing all the bot and Yahoo! login information to be read. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 16:49, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

I've redirected SDi UAVs to SDi UAV
Thank you very much for pointing out the issue of SDi UAV and SDi UAVs. I created both by mistake because by Wikipedia convention, singular form should be used instead of plural form. I created SDi UAV in singular form to meet the convention standard and after that, I've redirected SDi UAVs to SDi UAV. You beat me into it because you've worked so fast that before I completed the correction job on my mistake, you've already caught the mistake I made. Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XdeLaTorre (talk • contribs) 01:19, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, and my apologies for the false positive. You may be able to avoid these in the future by using MediaWiki's move tool; moving pages by cutting-and-pasting their contents has the potential for severe attribution and copyright issues, hence the bot's report and request for a human contributor to look into it. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 16:54, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Update needed for desysop notification task
Thanks for your efforts with Madmanbot. Could you update the bot's copy of inactive admin if you haven't already? Thanks – xeno <sup style="color:black;">talk 04:22, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey xeno, sorry I didn't see this in time to do it by the notifications on the 1st; was in the hospital with my father for four days (unexpected, but all is well now). Things have shifted around in Labs, the instance that script was running on got deleted yet it's still clearly running from somewhere, believe it or not I just don't know where. I'm going to try to catch some sysops in the morning in #wikimedia-labs and get everything sorted out including this update. Thanks! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 01:22, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I have updated the e-mails and notifications (the notifications now just use and  ; the e-mails were updated in the same way  was. I've also moved from bots to labs; hopefully this won't cause any problems but I'll be keeping an eye out. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 01:19, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Title spelled incorrectly
Thank you for your message

I am new to this and would appreciate your showing me how to create the redirect and attribute the first page. I am the author of both pages and the first has an incorrect title. The correct name is Frank Massar.

Is ir also possible to remove the first page entirely as a means of resolving the conflict? If so please advise.

Best Wishes

Antonioyap (talk) 16:39, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This appears to have been taken care of by . Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 00:22, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

List of members of the Parliament of Norway, 2013–2017
This article was tagged as a copy of List of members of the Parliament of Norway, 2009–2013. The article has the same structure, but the content is updated for a new parliament. Sjakkalle (Check!)  16:05, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * My apologies. The bot by its nature is designed to catch articles that are structurally and substantially similar in case there are attribution issues, but this sometimes leads to false positives. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 00:23, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Question regarding the CorenSearchBot tools (Continued)
Hrm... I guess what I could do is write to the "Individual request" page, do a page fetch on the individual request page 15 sec later (and 15 seconds after until) a result is available, blank out the request once I get a Yes/No. It'll slow down my bot's processing, but give more reasons for an admin to CSD the AfC pages. Hasteur (talk) 15:06, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Probably a Web service is a bit better, though there'd have to be a relatively large timeout for HTTP as the bot conducts its queries... but it's always possible the bot won't be editing Wikipedia; it sometimes gets caught up in the spam filter and dies a horrible death. Hmmm. But if this is about CSDing the AfC pages, MadmanBot already checks all new pages in Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/* as of 14 March 2013. If this is just the backlog, we can always do a special run. There's no need to duplicate efforts when articles have already been checked. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 01:31, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * The problem is that some admins wanted additional nomination vectors if HasteurBot is going to nominate the page for G13 (i.e. CSD:Multiple(Spam & G13)). I'm going to go ahead and say that the feasability of doing it is so low that it's impractical. Thanks anyway Hasteur (talk) 00:53, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

HighBeam 8
Hey Madman! Hope you're well. We have a round of accounts ready to go out: Let me know if/when you can send them out. Thanks! Ocaasit &#124; c 15:31, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Codes, starting at 1007:
 * Users: User:Ocaasi/HighBeam8
 * I've moved the relevant scripts off the Toolserver; I'll try to move them onto Tool Labs and send out notifications either tonight or tomorrow night. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 23:15, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Done! Updated the spreadsheet. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 04:28, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hey Madman, thanks so much for your fast work. We have a little quirk in the process.  This round there were many account renewals, folks whose original 1-year account were already given and then expired and reapplied for.  All these folks qualify for new accounts and should get new codes.  Is there a way I can set up the spreadsheet so it doesn't trigger a duplicate error?  Thanks again, Ocaasit &#124; c 14:13, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah. Obviously I didn't want to send out more codes than seemed necessary without your say-so, but that makes sense. I'll disable the duplicate checking for now (or I can have it start over with this run) and I'll send codes to those who were flagged yesterday. Cheers, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 01:29, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Done. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 01:48, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Brilliant, thank you! Ocaasit &#124; c 02:45, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Your bot is clearly malfunctioning
I don't know how you are doing the check, but I am most certainly not inactive. I may not be the "most active" person out there, but I certainly have not made no edits/admin actions in the past 12 months. Your bot is flagging me as a possible admin to desysop in the next month. -- Sh i r ik ( Questions or Comments? ) 00:40, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No, the bot e-mailed TorNodeBot, who indeed hasn't edited or made any admin actions in the past year, but that's for obvious reasons. I have removed TorNodeBot from the inactive administrators list; now that I'm on Tool Labs and have access to a database replica, the next run will automatically exclude all members of the 'bot' group. Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:07, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Whoops! Yeah that makes a lot more sense. I think it would be a good idea to put the username that it's sending to in the email. That would have made this a hell of a lot clearer what's going on. Thanks for tracking it down, Sh i r ik  ( Questions or Comments? ) 02:14, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll look into doing that. I had been relying on the "This e-mail was sent by user 'MadmanBot' on the English Wikipedia to user '' " footer in the Wikipedia e-mail template, but I notice now that Google Mail hides that footer by default, making it utterly useless. Sigh. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 01:57, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

cyclopaedia.net
Two messages at User talk:Vmjaishankar saying that the article was copied from, which in fact is a copy of our article. Dougweller (talk) 20:27, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Eesh. That Web site incorporates a lot of content from multiple sources. I suppose I can whitelist it, but I'd hate for false negatives because the source material was included on that Web site but is not in fact CC-BY-SA compatible. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Bernews
I've edited it and removed the copied material. Rennah (talk) 17:33, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Please let me know if you should have any questions regarding our copyright policies. Cheers, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

MadmanBot and DBpedia
See [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Stanley_Fester_Reed&diff=576478802&oldid=576478686 this edit]. Since DBpedia gets its contents from Wikipedia and is therefore a "mirror site" of sorts, your bot should ignore it when checking for copyright violations. Thanks!  Theopolisme ( talk )  18:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * To add, I'm seeing readtiger.com pop up a lot recently, which is also a Wikipedia mirror. Also, the bot's down again as of partway through the 10th. Wizardman  23:10, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've added both sites. I know it's taking me a while to respond to these requests and I apologize. It may be quicker to edit User:MadmanBot/exclude in the future if you're comfortable using regular expressions; if not, I'm happy to help. Thanks! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 02:06, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Great, I didn't know there was an on-wiki location for that. I'll add sites directly there in the future. Thanks!  Theopolisme ( talk )  02:42, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

suppression florentine mulsant
Hard to do an original briography of a French Woman composer. Maybe a synthesis of the two wesite sources. Though it seems difficult for me to rewrite the biography (I tried but it was deleted, Do You know who will be able to do it ? Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Savoy17 (talk • contribs) 20:25, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. I don't know who would off the top of my head (I'm not much of an article writer, and I'm pretty inactive these days), but you could list it at Requested articles; perhaps a Good Samaritan will see it and appreciate the chance to highlight her accomplishments! Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 23:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

MadmanBot + SpamBlacklist
Looks like MadmanBot is having a bit of trouble:. Maybe it could leave the url in the edit summary or something? Legoktm (talk) 04:34, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Yeah, it does this sometimes and "this kills the bot", so they say. The bot does need to leave the URL in the edit as a parameter to the tag template. But maybe I should tell it to detect the spam blacklist result (the original code I got does need a lot more error checking) and just drop it instead of dying horribly. Thought I'd already made some strides in that direction, but apparently they weren't enough. &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 05:06, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

your bot
Hi Madman, when I splitted content from an article, I got a tag from your bot accusing me of potentially having perpetrated copyvio. I didn't appreciate that. I think that message needs to be changed. Cheers, Azylber (talk) 09:42, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I apologize for the false positive. It's worth MadmanBot detecting splits at the moment so a human may make sure there wasn't a cut-and-paste move and/or that the split doesn't have any attribution issues, but I hope to add a heuristic soon to skip that if a page is split properly (the edit summary on the edit creating the destination page includes a wikilink to the source page). Thanks, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 01:59, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Madman. Since I too got a message from your bot, I'd like to point out that I don't really think you adressed Azylber's concern. This isn't about the positive being false or not, it's about your bot's accusatory language. Please use more humble language. Saying "Content copied from one page to another must be properly attributed; see Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia." comes across as insulting to those that very well know this. Saying "It will soon be reviewed to determine if there are any copyright issues." is an outright threat, and I find it inappropriate to use for a bot that very well might be utterly mistaken.

As it was in my case. (I created a disambig; moving an article to a new page. I fully understand why the bot reacted and do not object. This isn't about my example; which is why I'm not responding on the article talk page. This is about me asking you to tone down the language (or at the very least, reminding you that this is what Azylbert tried to say), at least until you have improved the bot to not make simple mistakes like this)

Thank you and best wishes, CapnZapp (talk) 21:01, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi CapnZapp, thanks for understanding what I was trying to say and explaining it better. Azylber (talk) 01:41, 26 October 2013 (UTC)


 * As you've accurately pointed out, I'm embarrassed to say I missed the end of what Azylber was saying and responded on the topic of page splits in general. (I'm pretty passionate about the improvement I described; I just need to find the time to code it and get approval for it.) As it happens, CorenSearchBot/MadmanBot was involved in A/B testing experiments performed by the Wikimedia Foundation and is in fact still using the A/B testing language. When a page includes another page, it will leave User:MadmanBot/Csb-notice-wikipage-rand for new users and User:MadmanBot/Csb-notice-wikipage-exp-rand for "experienced" users. I think you'll agree that the new language that was tested is much friendlier ( and ). Unfortunately CorenSearchBot went offline before this experiment produced results indicating such, but I think it's within my remit to more heavily weight or switch to the new language entirely; I'll look into doing so within the next week. Thanks for the feedback! &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 23:11, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

New REFBot
There is a proposal on Bot requests for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Maybe you could work on it like you did it with other projects? That would be fine. Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- 10:29, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that at this time I'm simply too busy to take on any additional projects, and even once I have greater availability, I've sworn to do a complete revamp of MadmanBot first. My apologies, &mdash; <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">madman 17:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC)