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Block/Unblock
I just unblocked you. Although you were being disruptive at Sockpuppet investigations/MariaJaydHicky, after further investigation, I can now see how you were provoked by the filer. There's no need for you to post anything further at the SPI. I'm dealing it with now, and in any event, Mario Maraschi is temporarily blocked for their disruption, which was much worse than yours. Thanks for your understanding.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:23, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for understanding. I made a mistake responding negatively to such provocations, which I'll try to avoid next time. Maestro2016 (talk) 20:33, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Mario Maraiki
Why you said this, i have nothing to do with him, so stop please, i'm doing a great work here, and you do it so, so why you want that i have troubles, i don't pretend nothing, but stop with this accusations, do your edits and stop, did you see what my name is? I'm "Just editing with a smile", and also you should just edit with a smile :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Just editing with a smile (talk • contribs) 06:31, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * That depends on whether User:DoRD (or User:Bbb23 when he returns) want to pursue the matter. I was only reporting my suspicions. Maestro2016 (talk) 10:11, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh and, now what happens? I wanna be sure that i won't be punished because i didn't do anything wrong--Just editing with a smile (talk) 11:56, 22 March 2016 (UTC)


 * You might want to ask DoRD about that. Maestro2016 (talk) 12:22, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hey there, 10 is the max number of Review scores on the Professional ratings table. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 06:20, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I see. I've trimmed the table down to 10 reviews now. Maestro2016 (talk) 12:06, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Gunga Jumna. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you '''may be blocked from editing. SoniaKovind (talk) 11:27, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Stop adding inflated gross of films as per your own theories. Provide a reliable source, which says that a film has grossed as much. You are selectively adding inflated gross of films of your liking, particularly of Dilip Kumar, without any reliable source to back your claims. Wikipedia requires reliable sources otherwise it is just POV. SoniaKovind (talk) 11:35, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * A reliable source has already been given (Top 50 Film of Last 50 Years, Box Office India, 3 November 2011). The source clearly lists Gunga Jumna as the second highest adjusted grosser. Maestro2016 (talk) 11:43, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It doesn't say that these are the highest grossing films, it only assumes that these films would have been the highest grossing if the price of gold was standard. Gold prices are not the standard for comparing ticket prices or film's revenues. Gold prices rocketed in 2010 but have been stagnate since last 8 years it means that films revenue will automatically rocket in 2010? SoniaKovind (talk) 11:47, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Here is one more source which says that Sholay is the highest grossing film, should we add it now. The point is that their is no one reliable source which measures inflation adjusted gross, stop adding them selectively, specially which uses gold standard, a non-accepted technique. SoniaKovind (talk) 11:54, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Sorry, but that does not look like a reliable source. Maestro2016 (talk) 12:01, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * It is, IBOS is a known source. What is not reliable is using gold standard for box office revenue calculation. SoniaKovind (talk) 12:07, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * The consensus is that IBOS figures are unreliable. Maestro2016 (talk) 12:14, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * The figures of BOI that you have mentioned are not actual figures but hypothetical figures using a non-accepted technique, so can't be added either. SoniaKovind (talk) 12:23, 2 July 2017 (UTC)


 * It's the only reliable source we have that gives a list of adjusted gross figures for films before the 1990s. If you have an alternative reliable source (not IBOS) with a similar listing for films before the 1990s, then feel free to present it. Otherwise, we'll just have to stick with the BOI list. As for what is the "accepted" or "non-accepted" standard for adjusted gross, that's debatable. Maestro2016 (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

It is not about the "source" but content. I repeat again it is not ACTUAL adjusted gross, but a HYPOTHETICAL gross, using gold standard, which is not the norm. We do not have to "stick" with it, their is no compulsion. Unless their is a proper source, their is no need of adding an inflated, adjusted gross. SoniaKovind (talk) 12:35, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

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Stop adding your POV and deleting meaningful content from the pages, which suits your bias. Wikipedia is suppose to be neutral. Discuss before adding instead of reverting and edit wars. SoniaKovind (talk) 08:05, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Lol...instead of this childish counter warning, use talk page for meaningful discussion. I am aware of reverting and edit-war, I warned you first. SoniaKovind (talk) 08:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Warning you again, stop vandalism. Instead of blind reverts a and edit warring use talk page and discuss, you have been warned. SoniaKovind (talk) 08:35, 3 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I have sent you a warning because your edits and blind reverts are full of POV, are mostly unsourced, and have been persistently disruptive. Maestro2016 (talk) 09:04, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

July 2017
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Self-published blogs are not reliable sources for facts
Hello, I'm Worldbruce. I noticed that you made a change to an article, List of highest grossing Bangladeshi films, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Do you know any reliable sources for Bangladeshi box office numbers? Like, for example, Box Office India for Indian box office numbers? Is there anything of the sort for Bangladeshi films? Maestro2016 (talk) 08:20, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * There is no reliable source for Bangladeshi box office numbers overall. Very occasionally a major newspaper will print something about one or two films, which Wikipedia takes at face value if the newspaper generally has a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. The degree to which they are actually able to fact check the box office figures is likely very limited, however. They probably have to rely largely on the producer or distributor of the film, neither of which has a way of verifying the box office take, and both of which have reasons for lying about it. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:38, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * So you're saying there are no reliable sources available that could be used to produce a list of highest-grossing Bangladesh films? Maestro2016 (talk) 18:49, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * The six sources cited in List of highest grossing Bangladeshi films are reliable. With enough effort you might be able to find similar sources for another 3-4 films. But in several years of looking I've never found a reliable source that provides Bangladeshi box office numbers for a large number of films, no Bangladeshi equivalent to Box Office Mojo. --Worldbruce (talk) 02:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Original research in the XXXX in film articles
Please stop adding WP:Original research to the XXXX in film article such as you did here. How can you possibly know that Bobby ranks in fourth place if you don't know how much Papillon or The Way We Were made overseas? The reason only the US data is listed is because most of the worldwide data is missing. If the overseas grosses were known for all these film then these lists would include a worldwide chart like at 2017 in film. Composing your own chart is WP:Original research because it is impossible to determine the ranks from the data available. Betty Logan (talk) 01:31, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * The rankings are not original research, but are based on the rankings from this site. As you can see here, the overseas rankings on the site are the same as the ones I've listed, with the addition of Indian films. Maestro2016 (talk) 08:18, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Nevertheless, I think it might be best to remove the ranking columns for the international lists. Maestro2016 (talk) 08:19, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Firts of all WorldwideBoxoffice is a WP:SPS and therefore not a WP:Reliable source, and secondly it is incomplete. In some of the cases the numbers are incorrect and in others it does not have anything registered. Jesus Christ Superstar was a huge film, but that chart simply has "n/a" next to the international figure. Betty Logan (talk) 09:01, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I realize the data is incomplete, hence why I've removed the rankings column from the tables. If it's not a reliable source, then do you know any other reliable sources for overseas numbers? At the very least, non-American films need to be represented, as the XXXX in film articles currently do not represent a worldwide view of the subject. Maestro2016 (talk) 09:05, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There is no consistent source for overseas numbers, that is why only the American data is available. Worldwide charts only started in 1989 which is why 1989 in film is the first article to have a worldwide chart. If the data was available for years prior to 1989 then we wouldn't have the US chart we would have worldwide charts like the later articles. Betty Logan (talk) 09:08, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * But why only US charts? Why not also Indian charts, or Soviet charts, or Hong Kong charts, or UK charts? Again, the XXXX in film articles (pre-1989) suffer from a clear US bias, only listing US films (or films that were hits in the US) while excluding films from other nations. Maestro2016 (talk) 09:11, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't actually agree with having the US charts in these articles. I think where possible they should be moved over to the box-office articles such as List of 1989 box office number-one films in the United States. A complete list of box-office articles can be found at Lists of box office number-one films. All the US charts from 1960 onwards should be moved into those articles. Betty Logan (talk) 09:17, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * What about simply listing the highest-grossing film from each country? That should bring some balance to the US-centric nature of the articles. Maestro2016 (talk) 18:48, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't have any objections to that. If that is possible then that is ok, provided it is properly sourced. I still think you've got a tough task though finding non-US information prior to the 1960s; even the UK didn't start proper tracking until 1975. Betty Logan (talk) 22:27, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I already have data for India and the Soviet Union, but haven't looked into data for the UK yet. Maestro2016 (talk) 05:27, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Copying requires attribution
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 * The text I copied to the Economy of Bangladesh article is my own work from the Mughal Empire and the Economic history of India articles. Maestro2016 (talk) 22:31, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
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Notice of potential report to Administrator's noticeboard
Some of your edits to Industrial Revolution and The Great Divergence contain false and misleading statements and some are not in the correct section. Please use the Talk page to discuss edits that are counter to mainstream sources on this topic. Continuing to make controversial or false edits can result in you being blocked from editing these articles.Phmoreno (talk) 17:26, 19 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Where is the complaint? I don't see it anywhere on Administrators' noticeboard. Maestro2016 (talk) 19:51, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Will you please link to the complaint. I have looked for it too and cannot find it. Maestro has a right to defend himself. Betty Logan (talk) 20:48, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I am going to hold off on filing a complaint until I see if we can work this out. My first impression was that this was a POV problem, but it may be a case of careless treatment of sources and not understanding the leading works on the subject.Phmoreno (talk) 21:09, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Tip
Hi there,

I recommend that you add the relevant quotes from the sources that you cite: see, for example, citation 37 in the Peter Navarro article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Navarro#Views_on_trade). That would make it easier for other editors to review your edits, and could avoid some of the conflicts that you're getting into. I, for instance, had to add quotes in my sources in the Navarro article to reduce edit warring. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 14:23, 20 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tip. I'll keep that in mind. Maestro2016 (talk) 12:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

References formatting
I made an image guide on how to do this, and it's really easy. Thanks. 115.164.91.208 (talk) 14:03, 24 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Cool. Thanks for the guide. Maestro2016 (talk) 20:01, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for List of highest-grossing films in India
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 * Surprised to see it on the front page. That's pretty cool. Maestro2016 (talk) 20:07, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Links to years
Hi Maestro, re: this, it would be appreciated if you'd please not create links off of common concepts like a year. All wikilinks compete for reader attention, and generating solid walls of blue, especially for mundane ideas like a year. Nobody's going to read the lead and wonder, "what is this random number 2017?" because everyone that we're talking about a year. And anyway, we typically link to the primary topic, not a tangential idea like "2017 in film". If you want to drive readers to these tangential subjects, we have See also sections for that and various templates. Thanks, and regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:40, 31 October 2017 (UTC)


 * In that case, I'll remove the year link from the lead. Maestro2016 (talk) 03:41, 31 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Never mind, looks like you've already done it. Maestro2016 (talk) 03:42, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep. Did indeed. If you're interested in the guidelines on this, please see WP:OVERLINK. Thanks for your flexibility, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:43, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Burying film reviews
Hi there, re: this, was there a specific reason you reorganized the critical response with positive reviews at the top? This tends to look like we're trying to bury negative response, which would obviously not be consistent with WP:NPOV, since it would tend make the film look like it received largely good reviews. After all, anyone who would read that section would probably just skim through the first few. Perhaps a stronger approach that would promote neutrality, would be to focus on specific aspects like direction, cinematography, acting, writing, and then organise the reviews around those ideas? Ex:
 * The film's cinematography received attention from critics, several of whom praised the wide sweeping shots used throughout the dance sequences. "Brilliant," said John Doe of ABC Times, who gave the film 3 stars out of 5. "I felt as though I was flying." Rory Sen of DEF Bugle wrote, "I was transported to the crisp verdant hills of Switzerland. The techniques used by Salman Croix were astounding." These sentiments were not felt by Roy Smythe of DEF Times who described the photography as "dizzying ... I thought I was going to throw up. However, the acting was spot on and I found Mamta Bloggs to be believable and adorable." Bloggs' portrayal of the street urchin was described as "hilarious and lovable. I wanted to adopt her. Bloggs had amazing chemistry with Hrithik Jones, who did an excellent job of eliciting tears as the kind-hearted businessman."

At least in this poorly-written example, we avoid top-loading the section with the good reviews. Thanks for your consideration, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:57, 2 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Not sure what the guidelines for film reviews is, but I was arranging it along the lines of Metacritic, which starts with positive reviews at the top, average reviews in the middle, and negative reviews at the bottom. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:42, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Understood, but Indian film articles are notorious targets of promotion, and burying bad reviews at the bottom is a common tactic. (Not implying that's what you're doing.) The obsession with ratings seems to be largely an Indian thing. I don't see a lot of "2/4 stars" "4/5 stars" in well-written articles about Western films. Note: Captain America: Civil War, just pulling one off the top of my head. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:23, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I only just noticed this reply now. I agree that would be a good way to write reviews. But unfortunately, I don't have much experience in writing about the critical reception of movies. And it would require actually reading through all the reviews and understanding them. I'll leave it to other editors to deal with the critical reception stuff. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:54, 22 November 2017 (UTC)

INR
Hi Maestro, re: this, INR has a built in linking function. You can activate it thusly: ₹ This is slightly easier on the eyes than ₹. Thanks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:17, 7 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I see. Didn't notice that. Maestro2016 (talk) 17:50, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Genre
Hey there, re: this, there was nothing personal about my reversion. Indian film articles, for whatever reason, attract a lot of excessive detail about genre, like here where Iru Mugan is described as a "science fiction action psychological thriller film" or this "action comedy-fantasy" or this "supernatural thriller drama film" or this "neo noir action crime thriller film". Anyway, you get the point. Per film MOS, we typically only care about primary genre, and a sub-genre if warranted. But typically we stick with a primary genre, preferably one that the majority of outlets are using to describe the film. Thriller or action would probably fit the bill for a general description, and then any other information that would further clarify the spy themes could be presented in another context. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:33, 23 November 2017 (UTC)


 * A lot of Indian films tend to be masala films that combine multiple genres. So it sometimes gets difficult to classify them down to a specific genre. Maestro2016 (talk) 20:04, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Neil Nitin
Dear Maestro2016! Can you complete an article Neil Nitin Mukesh, what happened after Prem Ratan Dhan Payo and add his role i n Wazir how critic aid about his role, about his character in Indu Sarkar and his role in Golmaal Again, and he have been filming in Firrkie and about his Telugu debut in Saaho? Thank u! --92.100.20.242 (talk) 11:56, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I haven't seen the article, but I might get around to looking into it some time. Maestro2016 (talk)

Box Office details for Madhumati
Hello, I am planning to submit the article Madhumati for a GA review. I do need to expand its box office section for this, but am unable to find any sources for Soviet gross. Do you know of any such sources? Thanks, King Prithviraj II (talk) 21:10, 30 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I've listed Madhumati's Indian gross at List of highest-grossing Indian films. There, I listed it as ₹4 crore (US$8.4 million), and with inflation, US$ million (₹470 crore). You can see the sources I used there, with the main source being this 1958 list from Box Office India. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any Soviet gross figures for the film. Maestro2016 (talk) 22:04, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! King Prithviraj II (talk) 07:59, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

A toast sandwich for you!

 * Thanks! Also, thanks for contributing to those articles as well. Maestro2016 (talk) 21:14, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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 * You have already been warned by User:Kansas Bear for edit-warring and reverting four times in a row. Your counter "warning" against me is meaningless. If you have any issues with the article, take it to the talk page, instead of edit-warring. Maestro2016 (talk) 14:42, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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Problematic sourcing
Hi Maestro2016 In this edit, I reverted the box office data you changed to 630 crore at Bajrangi Bhaijaan. We need to avoid using multiple sources to try to cobble together meaning. We're really walking the line of WP:SYNTHESIS, which states: "Do not combine material from multiple sources (or different parts of one source) to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources. This would be improper editorial synthesis of published material to imply a new conclusion, which is original research performed by an editor here." In this case, we're adding one source's proprietary method for estimating gross and adding it to another source's method for estimating gross. Further compounding the problem, was the choice of bollywoodmoviereview.in. What do you know about this website? Who owns it? Who is the editor? What is their background? What makes them an expert in Indian film finances? What reliable sources care what this site thinks? Sourcing 101: We only care what reliable mainstream sources with established reputations for fact-checking and accuracy have to say about anything. I've restored the reference that was in the article circa late-October 2017. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Point taken about bollywoodmoviereview. However, the overseas figure from IB Times (2017) is more recent than the overseas figure from BOI (last updated early 2016). Isn't it possible to add the older domestic figure from BOI with the newer overseas figure from IB Times for an up-to-date total? WP:SYNTH seems to be referring to textual interpretation, while WP:CALC says calculations don't count as original research, suggesting to me that an addition such as this should be acceptable. Maestro2016 (talk) 00:47, 10 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I've updated the gross using Bollywood Hungama, so the above probably won't be necessary anymore for the film. However, I still feel it should be acceptable to add domestic and overseas numbers from different sources (which would fall under WP:CALC), since the methodologies for domestic and overseas grosses are very different to begin with. Maestro2016 (talk) 04:31, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it is a risky proposition to use figures from different sources for the reasons I noted above. Each source has its own proprietary methods and since they are all estimations, they are opinions, not facts. Cobbling together opinions from two different methodologies and presenting a conclusive total is really sketchy to me, and that's why I feel that it runs afoul of SYNTH. If you want another opinion, I will always urge you to run this sort of thing past WikiProject Film. The only downside, is that they generally are not as familiar with the problems inherent to Indian film finances. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:15, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


 * From what I gather, the issue of estimation only really applies to the domestic Indian box office, due to the lack of actual box-office tracking in India, hence much of the domestic figures are derived from estimations. For the overseas box office, however, it is mainly derived from actual box-office tracking in more developed markets like North America, Europe, UAE, China, etc. The issue of estimation is only inherent to the domestic box office, but doesn't really apply to the overseas box office, where the numbers are more firm. In other words, the methodologies for domestic and overseas numbers are entirely different to begin with. The same source would be using two entirely different methodologies for domestic and overseas figures (estimation for domestic and tracking for overseas), so I don't think it would make much difference if we get the domestic and overseas numbers from the same source or different sources. By the way, wouldn't WP:ICTF be a better place to discuss this, since it's more specific to Indian cinema? Maestro2016 (talk) 18:41, 13 December 2017 (UTC)


 * According to discussions I've seen at Talk:List of highest-grossing films/Archive 2017, it seems the consensus regarding this is that adding numbers from different sources is acceptable under CALC and does not violate SYNTH. For example, here is a comment from User:Betty Logan regarding this issue: "The guideline does not require that the figures must all come from the same source. Indeed, CALC stipulates that the calculation must be a "meaningful reflection of the sources"; therefore the guideline clearly permits us to draw the base data from a range of sources. I think the whole SYNTH issue is distracting from the main issue, because it is my interpretation of CALC that we can take a bunch of numbers from different sources and add them up. The issue here isn't whether we use one source or two sources, but rather how to handle the contradictory information." Maestro2016 (talk) 19:14, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Addressing several points at once:
 * Not sure how you're drawing the conclusion that box office estimate skepticism is mostly centered on Indian domestic when we don't know how international figures are being tallied for Indian films. For all we know, without any benefit of credible transparency, all international figures may be fed to outlets like Forbes bloggers and BoxOfficeMojo interns by producers. That would be interesting, right? Your assertion that overseas figures of Indian films are tracked officially is (thus far) unfounded.
 * As for your invocation of 's comment, I do respect Betty's opinions on a great number of issues, but I don't know that the opinion you've quoted was made with any reflection on Indian films, which has a profoundly different set of problems than most western films. Many of our regular film article editors would prefer to not be vexed by the drama of the Indian industry, and maybe they focus more on solutions to films they are interested in.
 * If we were to expose the seediness of Indian film financials by noting that Times of India discontinued box office reporting because of corruption, and if we required respondents to read this detailed LiveMint article, how do you think these people would respond? Is some data untrustworthy, but the bulk of it spot-on? With this knowledge out there, how would you expect people like Betty to respond?
 * Addressing your query "By the way, wouldn't WP:ICTF be a better place to discuss this, since it's more specific to Indian cinema?" No, I don't think it would, because ICTF is essentially a ghost town as far as Indian film discussions go. Attempts to unify the group were largely met with apathy and/or sockpuppetry. There is a fairly silent niche group who edit prolifically in the world of Indian cinema, and who are responsible for turning a great many mediocre articles into Good Articles. They do a fine job collectively, but there is little participation as an open community, and these days I don't know that anything casually run by this WikiProject would result in any responses, let alone changes.
 * Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:44, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Since I got pinged I feel I better clarify my comments. First of all WP:CALC is not a licence to add WP:SYNTHESIS to articles. The guideline says the calculation must be "obvious" and it is subject to consensus. In the instance I was advocating, we had a bunch of film grosses from two different sources and I was arguing it was acceptable to "add them up" and obtain a franchise total for the table. In other words you can't take the consensus from one debate and apply it to a completely different debate with different data, different sources, and possibly a different context for the calculation. I would need to study the specifics of the data, the sources and the nature of the calculation to determine whether my view still applies in another debate. Betty Logan (talk) 06:55, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I apologize if I may have misrepresented you in any way. I was just referring to precedents where similar approaches have been used before for film articles. However, point taken that such an approach may not applicable for different situations. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:43, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * While I agree there is corruption when it comes to Indian box office numbers, including the reporting of box office numbers from the media, my point is that overseas box office numbers can at least be verified through third-party trackers. The numbers for China, for example, can be verified through Maoyan and China Box Office, which gives detailed weekly and daily breakdowns of the Chinese box office. Likewise for Box Office Mojo, which does the same for North America, Europe, and Australia. Whereas the domestic Indian market relies mainly on estimates (sometimes subject to producer tampering). That's why I believe overseas numbers are generally more reliable than domestic numbers. However, point taken that the reporting of those overseas numbers may still be subject to corruption, as we saw with Kabali, with the media reporting numbers from producers exaggerating overseas numbers. However, later overseas numbers for the film were lowered as it was possible to verify the producers' claims through independent overseas sources. My point is that different methodologies are being used for different markets. The methodology being used for India especially is very different to the methodologies used for America, Europe or China. That's why I don't see how using one source for overseas and another source for domestic is really all that different to using a single source for both domestic+overseas. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:43, 14 December 2017 (UTC)


 * What did you really found in this opinion piece that made you describe Aaamir Khan as the "world's biggest movie star"? Raymond3023 (talk) 10:25, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

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Top 10 Indian movies
Pls update Malayalam movies collection also Alfinjose (talk) 13:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC)


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I noticed a lot of work has been done on viewership for Amir Khan over the last month. Thank you. I was wondering, I have been using BARB for a while myself, but there are certain figures, if too low on the weekly figures, they don't tend to show. Is there another way around this to view all figures? Thanks in advance. --Mahussain06 (talk) 13:29, 3 May 2018 (UTC)


 * I can't access those lower BARB figures either. It seems you can only access those lower figures by subscribing to BARB. The viewer numbers I added are from the top 10 and top 30 lists. For any numbers below that, I had to look around for third-party news/media sources. Maestro2016 (talk) 01:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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Do you not think the LA Times is a better source than a blog quoting Hearn with numbers "off the top of my head"? 80.235.147.186 (talk) 01:43, 28 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Fair point. I've now changed it to the LA Times source. Maestro2016 (talk) 04:04, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

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Hello? XD I have a question regarding this, could you please tell me from where do you get the source for sales and all? 94.128.88.199 (talk) 16:38, 24 June 2018 (UTC)


 * The source for each sales figure is given in the article. Maestro2016 (talk) 18:51, 24 June 2018 (UTC)


 * I can see that. I meant how do you search for them? Because I want to check how much Attack on Titan did on merchandise sales.94.128.88.199 (talk) 00:36, 25 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh, that's what you mean. In most cases, I usually just Google the merchandise sales (the main search engine as well as Google Books). And in some cases, I look into the IR (investor relations) library on the websites of companies that own the franchises, though only a few, like Bandai Namco and Toei Animation, reveal revenue figures for specific franchises. Maestro2016 (talk) 01:18, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

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Hey there, can you please give your inputs on a few issues here: 1. Talk:List of highest-grossing films in India(I, II & III) 2. Talk:List of highest-grossing Indian films 3. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force

Thanks in Advance. ~Rajan51(talk) 16:43, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Lynching
However I look at it, this is unacceptable, especially in a sensitive subject like that. Please do not repeat. Thanks. Kleuske (talk) 14:49, 7 July 2018 (UTC)


 * What is unacceptable? The linked article lists numerous lynchings. Would you prefer I described them in the article instead of simply adding a link? Maestro2016 (talk) 17:35, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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List of Japanese manga magazines by circulation
Hi, sorry for not explain things earlier. My biggest question would be why are you placing figures from 2017 rather than the newest things available? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:07, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


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 * I have now added quite a few sources to establish notability. Let me know what you think. Maestro2016 (talk) 02:38, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hello! Please enter the table of paid broadcasts in the UK, the battles that took place on the new PPV channel ITV Box Office. --- AndreyAtanasov (talk) 15:13, 8 September 2018 (UTC)


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Hello, can you edit the Khabib Nurmagomedov article? I can't edit it myself due to page protection. There's misinformation in the "UFC 229 Nurmagomedov-McGregor post-fight incident" section. It says "McGregor was then attacked by two of Nurmagomedov's cornermen, Zubaira Tukhugov and Islam Makhachev." When in fact, Islam Makhachev wasn't even in the cage when Conor was attacked, he was in the crowd trying to help Khabib. The guy in the red shirt that was mistaken for Makhachev is Èsed Èmiragaev (Эсед Эмирагаев in russian), he attacked Conor from behind after McGregor attacked Abubakar Nurmagomedov. Èsed Èmiragaev is Khabibs older friend from childhood that accompanies Khabib everywhere, helps in his camp/other stuff, he also helps Khabibs dad with his MMA school. The strange thing about that is that Esed was very respectful towards Conor in every interview (and humble in general), so it's really unknown why he'd jump into the cage to attack Conor, I guess it's because McGregor punched Abubakar. Anyways, there's almost no information about this guy online, but I gave you a lot of it in this message. By the way, this guy was also involved in Khabib vs. Diaz brawl at WSOF tournament in 2015. Lastly, here's Esed Emiragaev's instagram. I hope this helps and you correct the section, thanks in advance! Dmig2332 (talk) 04:35, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Russian source article Dmig2332 (talk) 04:43, 9 October 2018 (UTC)


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Just to let you know
That doubleday book you use as a cite is full of misinformation. Just reading the text alone. "By the late 1970's Toho was making 2 films a year". If that applies to Godzilla then yeah its wrong. Toho stopped making Godzilla films by the mid-70s (1975) and the only time they made 2 Godzilla films in one year was 1964.Giantdevilfish (talk) 17:20, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I believe what it meant to say was "releasing" or "localizing" rather than "making". The localized Godzilla movies were releasing in North America in the late 1970s. If you interpret the word "making" as either "releasing" or "localizing", then the information in the book is accurate. Also, Doubleday is a reliable publisher. Maestro2016 (talk) 17:30, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * What are the citations that Edelson uses? Doubleday might be a reliable publisher but that doesn't mean that the writer is reliable. I've encountered many misinformation's by authors in books published by reliable publishers. In The Japanese Fantasy Film Journal it was stated that Godzilla vs Gigan made just over $2 million worldwide and that Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla made $2.8 million worldwide. Maybe Edelson meant to say $2 million rather than $20 million because $20M would be extraordinary for films that got limited releases in The U.S (with the exception of Megalon) and only played in a handful of International markets across Europe and Latin America.Giantdevilfish (talk) 17:45, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * If you have a citation for The Japanese Fantasy Film Journal source which gives those numbers, we could use that instead of the Edelson source. He didn't specify which late-1970s releases he was referring to specifically, but it probably could've just been Megalon he was referring to. Maestro2016 (talk) 18:00, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * It was either issue 12 or issue 13. I'll have to dig them out of storage. I remember I added the numbers to the IMDB way back in 2001.Giantdevilfish (talk) 18:02, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * In the Hum Aapke Hain Koun..! article, I did update the sources to match the new numbers. The new numbers are now referenced to India Today and Guinness World Records, which are definitely reliable sources. And the previous currency conversions were incorrect, using current 2017 rates for 1994, so I changed to proper currency conversions sourced to World Bank rates from 1994. Maestro2016 (talk) 15:49, 16 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I have now added the references to the lead, to avoid confusion. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for updating them everywhere. Bollyjeff  &#124;  talk  20:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Highest grossing musicals and musical films
How about putting the two tables together in their own article instead of putting one in the musical films article and the other in the lists of musicals article? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:27, 19 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Not a bad idea. Maestro2016 (talk) 00:35, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * I've now added a reliable source. Maestro2016 (talk) 17:47, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

DB Manga Figures
The News and others Sources provided are report from Toei Animation part owner of Dragon Ball IP and Shueisha the publisher of Dragon Ball and the 230-240 million copies world wide (2012 - 2016) directly comes from them. and other major sources supports the figure.

If you want to directly dispute the accuracy of those sources's reporting, then either take it to the reliable sources notice board or to WikiProject Anime and manga. However, until then, we must go with the figure that is directly stated by the source, which is the publisher/owner, as the official figure. Thank you.

619XXXX (talk) 11:39, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Your sources are third-party sources, some of which are WP:QUESTIONABLE. Where did Toei or Shueisha directly say it sold 250 million worldwide? Maestro2016 (talk) 11:42, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Also, the Japanese Wikipedia article on Dragon Ball has a regional breakdown of sales figures from various countries across the world, and they add up to 280 million official sales that can be accounted for (or 380 million including Chinese pirate copies). The 250 million number is clearly too low or out-of-date. Maestro2016 (talk) 11:54, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Same japanese wikipedia states 250 million as official figure but just says the sales is around 280 million by local publisher sources.619XXXX (talk) 11:58, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Giving full range of figures seems good and
 * Just stating publisher/owner official sources here


 * 230 Million
 * 2012 ANN Stating Toei as source

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2012-12-03/2013-dragon-ball-z/battle-of-gods-film-story-outlined
 * Toei Source

http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/movie/2013_dragonballz/introduction/
 * Toei Press release source - 2016 april

http://corp.toei-anim.co.jp/en/press/detail.php?id=521
 * 240 Million
 * Matan-Web stating Shueisha as source - 2016 October

https://mantan-web.jp/article/20161012dog00m200016000c.html Many major sources cites this figure which is consistent with the official figure
 * 250 Million
 * The 350 Million figure source from 2008 and recent sources are inconsistent and contradicts with the official figures

Personally i believe the figure is around 250-300 million
 * and till (2012 to 2016: 230 million), (2016 to 2018: 240 - 250 million) considering DBS anime started and peaked this period which kinda justifies the figure
 * and it is said this official November 2018 book from Shueisha cites 250 million worldwide but sadly its inaccessible for free
 * DRAGON BALL Shonen Jump Magazine Best Scene Top 10 (Shueisha Mook)

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOBK-2292571

Thank you:-) 619XXXX (talk) 12:30, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for understanding and being willing to compromise. I have also made a similar update to the Dragon Ball article, noting that the full range of estimates given range from 250 million to 350 million. I'm not sure if the Shonen Jump magazine itself really does give that 250M figure, but if it does, then it's worth noting that most of the copies sold overseas are licensed to third-party publishers, so Toei or Shueisha may not have the information of how much is being sold by those third-party publishers. I would personally peg the total at around 300 million, keeping in mind the 280 million the Japanese Wikipedia added up from local publisher sources in various countries, and that the overall figure would be slightly higher when considering other countries that haven't been accounted for. Assuming Toei/Shueisha really did say 250M, that may only be referring to copies sold directly by them, not necessarily copies sold by licensee third-party publishers. Maestro2016 (talk) 12:39, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Well Toei/Shueisha does give figures for other manga like One Piece, we can't just assume what they refer to is directly sold or overall. So its good to stick with the official figures. 619XXXX (talk) 12:54, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I haven't noticed any such contradictions for other manga such as One Piece, whereas there are such contradictions for Dragon Ball. The overseas distribution of Dragon Ball is a mess, licensed to various different local publishers who publish the comics independently from Toei/Shueisha, and there's no indication those local publishers are reporting back to them. Either way, the Japanese Wikipedia added up the local publisher figures and they came up to 280 million, so I would argue that's much closer to the actual number sold. Toei could also just be saying more than 250 million, which would mean anywhere between 250-300 million, as you mentioned. Maestro2016 (talk) 13:01, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * We cannot use those figures based on Japanese Wikipedia which is series of disjointed links that do not directly state 280M, and as you said the overseas distribution of Dragon Ball is a mess, so relying on official figures is reasonable. 619XXXX (talk) 13:23, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * According to WP:RS, reliable secondary sources are preferable over primary sources. And among reliable secondary sources, the numbers vary from 250M to 350M, so it would be best to give a full range of 250-350M, as mentioned previously. Maestro2016 (talk) 13:45, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The 350M Bogus claim sources most of them are from December 2008, one from 2014 (cites 2008 figure) and the recent source you posted is from Jan 2019, The fact that this number has remained same for the last 11 years is easily WP:QUESTIONABLE and doesn't follow WP:RS AGE. so they are not WP:BALANCED and contradict with many major secondary sources and primary sources which are consistent. 619XXXX (talk) 14:27, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * and On a side note that Jan 2019 source also states $23 billion franchise, the figure $23 billion was DB's figure in List of highest-grossing media franchises, which are just mostly estimation entered by users like us (WP:NOTSOURCE), there is no other source claiming that. so this makes this source more and more WP:QUESTIONABLE and WP:NOTRELIABLE. 619XXXX (talk) 17:02, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I suggest whatever our personal beliefs maybe, we should just use 250M or as you cited need to get all the reliable sources from Japanese wiki of local publisher info which are mostly approximate figures, then need to cite both sources and state the figure range as 250M-280M, which seems more sensible. 619XXXX (talk) 17:16, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * After looking more into Japanese sources, it appears the 350M figure was reported by Toei and Shueisha at the 2009 Tokyo International Anime Fair (see here and here). In other words, Toei are contradicting themselves. It does not look like Toei actually knows how many copies are sold worldwide, but are giving estimates. But instead of giving a full range of estimates, Toei are staying on the safe side for now and simply reporting "more than 250 million" which could mean anything above 250 million. Alternatively, it's possible the higher 350M number may include unofficial pirated copies, since Japanese Wikipedia notes more than 100 million unofficial pirated copies were sold in China and Korea. Either way, I think the most reasonable solution would be to translate the Japanese Wikipedia list of official numbers sold in various countries and give 280M as the total number sold, while at the same time mentioning in a note that both primary and secondary sources have given numbers ranging from 250M to 350M. Maestro2016 (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I have now copied and translated the sales table from Japanese Wikipedia to the Dragon Ball article. Feel free to have a look and let me know what you think. Maestro2016 (talk) 21:16, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * As a compromise, I have lowered the range of estimates down to 250-300 million. Feel free to let me know what you think, so we can settle this issue. Thanks. Maestro2016 (talk) 22:00, 24 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Since it turns out 619XXXX is a sockpuppet, and has been indefinitely blocked, it looks like the comprimise is no longer necessary. Since the local publishers' numbers clearly show the manga sold at least more than 280 million, I am changing the worldwide estimate back to 300-350 million. Maestro2016 (talk) 04:21, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Whoa, wait am not a sockpuppet and I use alternative account for different purposes, now i have been forced to use only one account for everything. even if i was a sockpuppet I don't understand why you are trying to disregard the compromise that you have already accepted, you are losing your credibility.

anyway back to the topic

Okay, now we can easily say 350M claim is just Circular reporting WP:CIRCULAR from 2008, and its just toei and its been 11 years but since then and there are have been many other primary and secondary sources which are consistent and supported with figures claimed by Shueisha and Toei which is 230M->240M->250M. so anyway you see those 350M reports doesn't follow WP:RS AGE and can't be used as source in the articles. and we also cannot use pirated copies sales WP:NOTRELIABLE, we can just make small reference side note as it was did in that japanese wiki. for example in Top selling books list, there is one book with given range of 100M to 300M as per primary and secondary sources but in a small reference note it says 'one source states the pirated copy sales is 1 Billion'. so to be rational we can only use the range 250M-280M, we can't just assume it to be 250M-300M or like the change you made 300M-350M which makes no sense when you yourself cite 280M, so stop pushing your opinions which could be interpreted as vandalism and also as per WP:RSC, Include that November 2018 book from Shueisha which cites 250 million worldwide as source (DRAGON BALL Shonen Jump Magazine Best Scene Top 10 (Shueisha Mook) and lets comprimise with that, be rational and and revert your changes. Wiki KuthiVaiyans (talk) 06:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * As per WP:REVERTBAN, it is recommended for edits made by sockpuppets of banned users to be reverted (usually as a way of discouraging sockpuppetry). However, if you are not a sockpuppet of a banned user, then we can continue our discussion. As for the discussion, the local publisher sources clearly demonstrate the bare minimum sold worldwide to be more than 280 million. So I don't find the 250 million number to be plausible, since it contradicts the bare minimum number we get when adding up the regional sales figures. Which means the most likely figure would be around 300M. Nevertheless, I don't mind comprimising and going back to stating 250-300 million. Maestro2016 (talk) 06:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

The problem with 280M local publisher report is just collection of disjointed links, it does not directly state 280M.

250M is supported with WP:RS AGE and primary and secondary sources

280M is not the best WP:RELIABLE source, but worthy of a note, that's why we should give 250M-280M

meanwhile 350M & pirated copies as said above its clearly WP:NOTRELIABLE and 350M doesn't follow WP:RS AGE, remember its a 11 years old source, be rational. and you keep saying 300 million, when its just your assumption. we can't assume and decide these infos.

so yeah, understand that and use 250M-280M as the figure. Wiki KuthiVaiyans (talk) 07:10, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * As stated above, Toei and Shueisha themselves reported 350M back in 2009. And there are many reliable secondary sources reporting 300-350 million between 2008 and 2019. You can't just pick-and-choose which RS sources to accept and which to reject, so the best solution would be to give a range of estimates. And the best way to determine which RS sources are closer to the actual number is to do a WP:CALC and add up the regional figures to determine a total figure, which gives 280M+. From this, we can determine that the most likely actual figure is around 280-300 million. Which would be right in the middle between the lower-end source figures (250M) and higher-end source figures (300-350M). Also, the numbers given in the sources are 250M, 300M and 350M, so the range would have to be either 250-300M, 300-350M, or 250-350M. In other words, it makes logical sense to give a 250-300M range. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:19, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

As per WP:RS AGE, those 2008 source can't be used even if it was toei since they have been changed the report after that been consistent for past 11 years and supported by many primary and secondary sources, and you say 2008-2019 ? when they are clearly just circular reporting like that 2014 book source (which cites 2007 here, clearly doesn't follow WP:RS AGE) and that 2019 source is clearly WP:NOTRELIABLE as concluded above based on its report about $23 billion franchise figure and even after 11 years reported as 350M? again doesn't follow WP:RS AGE, so stop citing that 2019 source or any other 11 year old source which are clearly inconsistent.

so as per WP:CALC, 250-280M range is the meaningful reflection of the acceptable sources.

and again as per WP:PAYWALL and WP:RSC you can also include that November Shueisha 2018 book from which cites 250 million worldwide as source (DRAGON BALL Shonen Jump Magazine Best Scene Top 10 (Shueisha Mook)  Wiki KuthiVaiyans (talk) 07:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * You're completely misinterpreting WP:RS AGE. Nowhere does it say newer sources cannot use older data. The point of the guideline is that newer sources can analyze older data and give an updated interpretation of the older data, not that newer sources cannot use older data. For example, when a contemporary historian analyzes older evidence and gives a modern interpretation of the older evidence. That's the point of the RS AGE guideline. Either way, you can't just pick-and-choose which sources to accept or reject based on your own personal opinion. There are numerous recent sources from the 2010s which give 300-350 million, e.g. this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, etc. This is just from a quick search, and we could find plenty more sources. 300-350 million are widely reported figures, so you can't just disgregard them just because you prefer the lower-end 250 million number. Also, the 280M is the bare minimum, since many of the local numbers are incomplete, not up-to-date, and state more than the numbers given. The total actual number is more than 280 million, hence why 280-300 million is the most accurate range of what was actually sold. However, I'm willing to compromise and just settle on 250-300 million, as mentioned above. Also, it's much easier and simpler to reference 250-300M, since there are numerous sources directly stating 300M+, whereas 250-280M would require referencing a very large number of local sources and adding them up to get 280M, which would be needlessly complicated. 250-300 million would be the easiest and simplest solution. Maestro2016 (talk) 08:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

as i said stop citing that 2019 source, which is WP:NOTRELIABLE, can you explain that source's figure of $23 billion franchise? and am not misinterpreting WP:RS AGE, its says 'new information, new discoveries or developments', there is no developments or new information in those 350M sources for the last 11 years, which makes it obviously to be unreliable. that said 230M->240M->250M is the bare minimum which is strongly supported from latest sources from both primary and secondary sources and 280 is just accumulated number, nowhere does any source directly state 280M, hence why 250-280 million is the most accurate range. (and you can reference a very large number of sources or just make 'see' note, this should not be a reason to not use those source)

anyway I am kinda exhausted now, we may need to resolve this later with WP:THIRDOPINION/WP:RSN, so for now I'm willing to settle on 250-300 million. Thank you Wiki KuthiVaiyans (talk) 09:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

and by the way I am adding this source - November 2018 "DRAGON BALL" jump best scene TOP 10 (Shueisha Mook) as per WP:PAYWALL/WP:RSC and here more clear images from the book stating 250M worldwide. See Full pageSee figures Thank you. Wiki KuthiVaiyans (talk) 10:35, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Okay, we'll leave it at that for now. Thank you for being understanding. Maestro2016 (talk) 12:51, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

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Box Office
Please stop adding false grosses to the Dragon Ball pages please. They were correct as they were and now they need to be corrected again. You're putting a Japanese gross through a currency exchange and that is not how that works at all. Thanks.Scabab (talk) 02:17, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


 * As I already explained in the edit summary: "None of those cited sources report a complete final gross. Only the Toei source gives a complete final gross. Also, it's a Japanese film, so the gross should be given in yen." ¥7.7 billion is the correct complete figure given directly by Toei, whereas your $64.8 million number is an incorrect number not stated by any sources, but is just an incomplete number added up from multiple sources. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:43, 4 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The Toei gross does not give a complete final gross because the article was published before the movie even released in China. You're taking the ¥7.7 billion figure and putting it through an exchange rate site for the time the article was made. It does not work that way in the slightest, that is extremely inaccurate.


 * The $64.8 million gross is explained on Resurrection F's talk page. It is what all the grosses add up to.


 * Box Office Mojo reported it's international gross at $53.76 million as of 9/23/15. After this date it was reported at making $300,000 in Germany, $280,000 in UK, $150,000 in South Korea, $290,000 in Spain and $1.6 million in China to give an international gross of $56.4 million. With the domestic gross it's made $64.8 million. This is what the gross adds up to across multiple sources. The $70 million figure you're putting is just an incorrect figure you're getting through an exchange rate that's not even including China into it.Scabab (talk) 03:56, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * 1) If Toei's gross is before the China release, then you can add the China number onto it, not subtract it.
 * 2) According to MOS:FILM: "Provide a summary of the film's commercial performance (box office grosses), denominated in the film's national currency". And according to WP:CURRENCY: "In country-specific articles, use the currency of the country. On first occurrence, consider including conversion to US dollars, euros, or pounds sterling, at a rate appropriate to the context." In other words, the box office gross should ideally be given in Japanese yen (since it's a Japanese film) and then converted to US dollars.
 * 3) How do you know your $64.8M number is what "all the grosses" add up to? That's a huge assumption on your part. BOM does not have access to all of the global up-to-date numbers from all possible international markets. And BOM doesn't even have a single gross figure available for the film, but its numbers for the film are a mess, split across two separate pages. In comparison, Toei's ¥7.7 billion figure is directly attributable to a single source. Also, your $64.8M number is not adequately explained in the article itself. It's not good enough to explain it in the talk page, but the article itself needs to explain it, either in the "Box office" section or in an EFN note.
 * 4) And finally, this edit you made is completely inappropriate. You just changed the number without even bothering to WP:CITE any sources. The source currently in the article states ¥7.7 billion, not the $64.8M number you're trying to push. But if you are going to push that number, then at least make an attempt to update the source to reflect that number, instead of just lazily changing the number without bothering to cite the sources for that number.


 * Maestro2016 (talk) 04:57, 5 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Except that isn't how it works and goes against the reported figures that were announced for the movie. It making $70 million is just a plain incorrect figure. Going by your method of doing things, it accounts for Resurrection F having grossed $34 million in Japan. It never made that amount, it was reported at doing $31 million, so that's already giving it an extra $3 million that it never made.


 * This is all explained on the Resurrection F talk page and the sources are given there and on the article page. The last International gross officially reported was $53.76 million. It was released in several countries after this date and their grosses were officially reported and where added on to the last overall gross given. Some of these are mentioned on the Box Office Mojo pages under Resurrection F and Fukkatsu No F, even the website The Numbers. It's awkward but these are actual bonafide reported figures with sources to back them up. Your $70 million is just what you got after plugging ¥7.7 billion into some exchange rate website.Scabab (talk) 08:43, 6 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Like I said, BOM and The Numbers do not have all the up-to-date numbers on all markets. BOM and The Numbers sometimes have outdated numbers for certain markets, as they occasionally stop tracking certain markets for certain films. Also, the Japanese box office never reports its numbers in dollars, but always gives its numbers in yen. The Japanese box office reported its number as ¥3.74 billion. Any dollar amount given for the Japanese market is a currency conversion, not what the Japanese box office itself reported. Both $31M and $34M are what you get from plugging in the yen amounts into a currency convertor, according to your own logic. And finally, you cannot just reference the talk page, but the article itself needs to explain where your number came from. You can't just expect readers to go to the talk page, but the article page itself should provide an explanation of how you came up with your $64.8M number. Or else, it would just look like WP:SYNTH (rather than WP:CALC). You may want to consider using EFN notes or #expr tags to show how you worked out $64.8M in the article. Maestro2016 (talk) 13:07, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if they're not up to date, they are official reported numbers. It is what the movie was reported to have grossed. Resurrection F was reported to have grossed $31 million, not $34 million. That is not what Box Office Mojo or The Numbers converted it to, that is what they were given. Your figure was never reported in anyway, is utterly false and something that you alone came up with by using a currency conversion site, just like how Broly might convert to $35.2 million but that is not what was reported.Scabab (talk) 01:04, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * The official reported number is 7.7 billion yen. There is no official reported dollar number. The $64.8M number is something editors got from adding up numbers in multiple sources, not what has officially been reported. The only officially reported number is 7.7 billion yen. It should either be left as 7.7 billion yen, or the dollar amounts should be given as a range of estimates. Maestro2016 (talk) 01:09, 18 February 2019 (UTC)


 * And from that ¥7.7 billion, no accurate dollar amount can be given, any number that would be used is incorrect. The $64.8 million figure, is the combined sum of the multiple reported figures, they might have been added together by editors but the figures can all be sourcedand are official. Of course that wouldn't actually be it's exact total gross, just like no other movies listed gross is exact but that is what was reported of it. You can't give a range, only what was officially reported for it.Scabab (talk) 01:24, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

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Tsubasa's grossing
Hi, I noticed your edits in the films and wondered if by any chance the film Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle the Movie: The Princess in the Birdcage Kingdom (yeah, long name...) made it to the box office. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 20:32, 20 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Not sure. It doesn't seem like Japanese Wikipedia has any box office numbers for it. Might have to look into it. Maestro2016 (talk) 21:21, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia the musical
do you knew if we can exepend Highest-grossing musical theatre productions anymore (maybe a nice round 50) Fanoflionking


 * We could expand it beyond a top 25. I would personally set $100 million as a minimum threshold, rather than top 50, but either way is fine. There is a list of Broadway gross figures here that you can feel free to reference, if you wish to expand the list. Maestro2016 (talk) 06:31, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

i went with $100 million threshold if there any musicsl missing feel free to added. Fanoflionking

Flop
Hi there, re: this please avoid hyperbolic language like "flop" or "hit" or "blockbuster" or "super-hit" or "failure" or "disaster" or any of that stuff. Most quality articles do not try to label everything. For perspective, even though Rotten Tomatoes labels failures as "rotten", we virtually never use that labeling, because it's not only non-neutral, but it places an undue emphasis on the hyperbolic opinion of one source. Keep it neutral, please. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:56, 14 March 2019 (UTC)


 * I didn't add the word "flop", but was toning-down what was already stated in the article, from "biggest flop" (which is an exaggeration) to "box office flop". Nevertheless, thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind. Maestro2016 (talk) 05:19, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Maestro2016! Can you check an article Space Pirate Captain Harlock (film)? Thank you! --217.66.157.234 (talk) 17:05, 22 April 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅. Maestro2016 (talk) 01:46, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you complete article Item number? Thank you! —-217.66.156.110 (talk) 11:15, 28 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Can you specify what needs to be checked in the article? Maestro2016 (talk) 01:46, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Need update history and our times, and the most popular item numbers example Nora Fatehi or Sunny Leone and about item number of recreated songs! Thanks! —-217.66.156.110 (talk) 09:55, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:11, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * and add about Sunny Leone and Jacqueline Fernandez, and add about Bollywood actresses South Indian item songs! Thanks! —-217.66.156.110 (talk) 14:48, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not too familiar with the work of Jacqueline Fernandez, or South Indian item numbers, so I can't really help with those. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:11, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Dear Maestro! Can you add about info about remake of song Sara Zaamana from Yaarana 1981, which titled in Kaabil Haseeno Ki Deewana which dancer Urvashi Rautela? Thank you! —-92.100.212.105 (talk) 18:05, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. Maestro2016 (talk) 19:19, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Dear Maestro! Can you add about info about remake of Ek Do Teen from Tezaab or Gali Gali from Tridev? Thank you! —-178.71.167.234 (talk) 18:56, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you check an article Space Pirate Captain Harlock and Galaxy Express 999? Thank you! ——217.66.156.110 (talk) 14:57, 29 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Again, you're going to have to be more specific about what needs to be checked. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:11, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * About overseas success, creation about character Captain Harlock, in Galaxy Express 999 about overseas success and backgorund, legacy! Thank you! --217.66.156.110 (talk) 16:28, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not too familiar with the history of Harlock or Galaxy Express. Maybe I might look into it some time later. Maestro2016 (talk) 02:22, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Anime
is it possibble to make Highest-grossing anime films and List of Highest-grossing anime films by year longer Fanoflionking


 * Not sure how we could make the highest-grossing anime films by year any longer, since we don't really have any data prior to 1977. As for the main list of highest-grossing anime films, I think it's fine as it is, but I guess we could extend it to a top 50. Maestro2016 (talk) 20:14, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

i think a top 50 for the main list will be fine (like the animted page or main page) as long as we can find sources for it, we should give it a go at least Fanoflionking


 * ✅. Maestro2016 (talk) 18:32, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you check an article Happy New Year (2014 film) and Mom (film), The Happy New Year of Shah Rukh, was released in China! Thank you! —-92.100.212.105 (talk) 09:06, 14 May 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅. Maestro2016 (talk) 18:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you check an article Dabangg and Hotel Salvation, which released in Japan and Raid (2018 film) was released in China? Thank you! --178.71.174.238 (talk) 14:54, 17 May 2019 (UTC)


 * I've updated the known box office performance of Dabangg and Hotel Salvation. However, I couldn't find any Japan gross numbers for Hotel Salvation. And Raid doesn't seem to have a China release date yet. Maestro2016 (talk) 07:02, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Bungo Stray Dogs Dead Apple
A few weeks ago I created the article Bungo Stray Dogs: Dead Apple, a movie by Bones. Apparently, it aired in multiple countries besides. Could you give it a look in regards to its box office? Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 23:02, 31 May 2019 (UTC)


 * ✅. Maestro2016 (talk) 23:37, 31 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks.Tintor2 (talk) 23:55, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you check an article Puneeth Rajkumar? Thank you! --89.110.5.127 (talk) 15:32, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you update in 2.0 (film) will Release in China, and Barfi! was released in Japan, can you check an article The Balkan Line? Thank you! —-78.37.250.104 (talk) 09:51, 12 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I've updated the gross of Barfi and The Balkan Line. But 2.0 hasn't been released in China yet. And I'm not familiar with Puneeth Rajkumar. Maestro2016 (talk) 15:57, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you update Sanju, Padmaavat, Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Enthiran was released in Japan, update box office gross of Kaabil and Half Ticket (2016 film) was released in China and Baaghi 2 was released in South Korea and Japan? Thank you! --92.100.211.154 (talk) 15:54, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Lion king
you kept change The lion king gross form $968.5M  to $986.2M changing the source form Box Office Mojo to The Numbers  beacue you said it was realible (witch i never said it was not) but Disney issued an erratum to the gross for The Lion King, correcting its gross from $987.5 million to $968.5 million. . so can you change all the pages you made this change to P+T Fanoflionking


 * I see. Okay, I've now changed it back to the previous number. Maestro2016 (talk) 10:46, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks for your work
HI!. You appear to be normalizing the dates in Template:Semiconductor manufacturing processes. Thanks! May I ask what your criterion is? Whatever it is, it's almost certainly better than the vague "pick some random one of the dates in the article" that we had been using. If you are comfortable with your criterion, I would appreciate it if you could please document it on the doc page of the template so that other editors will not be tempted to change the dates. -Arch dude (talk) 01:58, 30 June 2019 (UTC)


 * My general criterion is roughly the year in which the process began commercial production. Particularly in terms of memory chips. Most of the processes appear to have first been used for memory chips, before they were later used for CPUs. So I've pushed the dates back to the years in which the memory chips began production with those processes. Maestro2016 (talk) 02:03, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Excellent choice. For all the early nodes, the size was the half-pitch of a memory cell, so memory makes the most sense. Does each article actually have a reference for the "year in which the process began commercial production of memories? If not, can we find these references? Do you wish to modify the template documentation or shall I? -Arch dude (talk) 02:53, 30 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I've updated the respective articles to reflect the dates in which memory chips started being produced with those processes. I'm not too familiar with the template documentation, so you can feel free to modify it. Maestro2016 (talk) 03:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC).
 * The documentation is at Template:Semiconductor manufacturing processes/doc, which is not edit-protected. Please check my work, and thanks again. -Arch dude (talk) 14:34, 30 June 2019 (UTC)


 * I've slightly modified the text to include both processors and memory chips. A few of the processes were used in processors first, but in most cases it's usually the memory chips that come first. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

New section
Dear Maestro2016! Can you update Sanju, Padmaavat, Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Enthiran was released in Japan, update box office gross of Kaabil and Half Ticket (2016 film) was released in China and Baaghi 2 was released in South Korea and Japan? Thank you! --178.66.108.7 (talk) 12:04, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Spirited Away
Hello, Regarding Spirited Away, the best source i found is someone who know a lot about the Japanese box office and he went and calculated the gross for the movie and with the weekly dollar-yen exchange and it was 249M usd(http://worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2240975#p2240975), Spirited Away didn't stay in theaters after 2002 and didn't have any big re-release and the BOM is only wrong in exchange rate so i think going with 249 is the best choice, what do you think ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AIGA997 (talk • contribs) 14:52, 30 June 2019 (UTC) AIGA997 (talk) 14:57, 30 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Like the user says, BOM's number is all wrong. It doesn't have any tracking before 2002, and its 2002 numbers don't even add up. While the forum's $249M number for Japan is an improvement over the BOM number, we can't cite an online forum as a source. I think the best solution would be to take the Japanese gross of ¥30.8 billion and convert it at the average 2001 exchange rate, which gives us $ million, which is very close to the $249M number calculated on the forum. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:25, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

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SRAM table move
Your big move at this diff was among things reverted by me to get back before today's messy edit war. I did not review it, but it seems orthogonal; I'll leave it to you to decide whether to re-do it or discuss it. Dicklyon (talk) 21:44, 10 July 2019 (UTC)


 * That's understandable, considering the problematic edits made by Ilias48rus. But thanks for letting me know. I've now restored my previous edits to that section. Maestro2016 (talk) 21:54, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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Can you help me expand the opening weekend and year  charts on List of highest-grossing musicals page I started them a few weeks ago P+T Fanoflionking  11:49, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

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Psycho-Pass: Sinners of the System
This is a film trilogy that was released in early 2019 in Japan_ Psycho-Pass: Sinners of the System. By any chance if you have time, could you add its box office result? Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 16:51, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you check Dance Dance (film) in USSR? Thank you! --178.71.161.212 (talk) 13:41, 5 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I couldn't find any Soviet box office numbers for Dance Dance. It appears to have been a success in the USSR, but I can't find any box office numbers for it. Maestro2016 (talk) 15:37, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

New page
I am in the middle of doing a draft witch you might be interested in helping me develop Draft:List of films by Box office admissions Fanoflionking 10:02, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Federico's article
Since you know so much about the history, you might consider working on the Federico Faggin article, which is mostly over-polished by a dedicated IP editor. I tend to avoid it since he's my ex-boss. Dicklyon (talk) 20:38, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Dicklyon (talk) 02:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)


 * No problem. That's probably all I can do for now, as I'm only familiar with Faggin's work on the SGT and the Intel & Zilog processors. BTW, I just realized you were one of the inventors of the optical mouse. Thanks! Maestro2016 (talk) 02:19, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Maestro 2016! Can you check an article Il Bisbetico Domato and Raja Jani, which became popular in Soviet Union? Thank you! --178.71.206.156 (talk) 19:09, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you check Sanju, Padmaavat, Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Enthiran in Japan and 2.0 (film) in China will release in September 7 and was released in Russia? Thank you! --178.71.206.156 (talk) 19:11, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Passivation
I saw you are doing good work to the passivation article. If you would like, I can try to make time to setup a better photo than the one I included on the page. I have citric and nitric acid to work with, and can do a variety of concentrations and lengths of time. I can also try to induce a passivation failure if higher quality photos are needed there. Let me know if there is anything I can help you with in that regard. I also would not be hurt at all if you do not like the photo I included in the article and you removed it.  Kees08  (Talk)   07:25, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


 * That sounds like a good idea. If you want, then sure, you can go ahead and post the photo. I have no issues with it. Maestro2016 (talk) 20:01, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Anything in particular? I suppose I can clean three pieces of metal the same way, leave one unpassivated, passivate one in citric, and passivate one in nitric, if that works.  Kees08  (Talk)   20:43, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I guess? I'm not too sure, to be honest. I'm only familiar with the surface passivation process by thermal oxidation, used for silicon semiconductors in the electronics industry. Other than that, I'm not too familiar with other types of passivation. I think I'll leave it to your discretion what you think the best approach might be. Maestro2016 (talk) 21:45, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

The Raid 2
The Box office information you added in May 2019 seems to have been throwing errors ever since you added it. Could you remove or simplify it please or find some way to correct your errors. -- 109.76.134.165 (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2019 (UTC)


 * There was no error when I added it. The error was due to a recent change in Template:To USD, which I previously added to the article. Maestro2016 (talk) 16:55, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Ah, I see. If they're not changing the rules they're breaking the templates. Please also note MOS:SMALLFONT. Avoid using smaller font sizes in elements that already use a smaller font size, such as Infoboxes. -- 109.76.134.165 (talk) 20:58, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

List of films by Box office admissions
Thanks for helping with List of films by Box office admissions I am planning to move it to the main space tomorrow evening is there any last minute thing you want to do before I do go ahead and make them. Also thanks you for helping with this page. Fanoflionking 08:10, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Maestro2016! Can you check Sanju, Padmaavat, Bajrangi Bhaijaan, Enthiran in Japan and 2.0 (film) in China will release in September 7 was released in Russia? Thank you! --178.66.114.9 (talk) 12:53, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

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Anime Box office admissions
Can you help expend Anime Box office admissions? Fanoflionking 13:33, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

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Dear Maestro2016! Can you update box office of Dhoom 3 in Japan and South Korea and 2.0 (film) in China and Russia? Thank you! --95.55.106.2 (talk) 15:06, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

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Do you know if it is possible to create a timeline of highest-grossing anime films Fanoflionking 08:45, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


 * It's plausible for the Japanese box office (in yen). But not sure if it's plausible for the worldwide office (in dollars). Maestro2016 (talk) 12:36, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

I think we go back as far as possible with worldwide gross than just mention that “until year X only Japanese gross are reported after year X foreign gross started to be reported and film X is the first film to out gross film Y” Fanoflionking  12:55, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Worldwide box office is tricky. You could give it a shot. But I think it would be a lot easier to just stick to the Japanese box office. One way around it could be to report the worldwide box office starting from 1997, when worldwide numbers (in dollars) started being reported for Princess Mononoke. While for films prior to 1997, only report the Japanese box office figures (in yen). Maestro2016 (talk) 12:59, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

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Hi. A topic about internet censorship in iran needs to become update on Wikipedia. Please add "How Iranian people access to block websites and use social medias" Wikipedia needs your attention to become better place. Thank you. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Iran Omid6578 (talk) 14:03, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


 * That's not a topic I'm familiar with, so I don't really think I can help with that. Maestro2016 (talk) 14:32, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

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It seems that some others find too much detail being added to articles that are not supposed to have that much detail. I also slightly wonder about WP:COI, though in many other cases I have not noticed it when others did. Could you say a little bit about what you actually do that might be CoI? In most cases, there are more specific article where the details might apply. Gah4 (talk) 00:58, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


 * There is no COI. I just have a strong interest in the topic, and in the technical details. If you feel there's too much detail in the article, then feel free to suggest what you think should be trimmed down. Maestro2016 (talk) 01:06, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


 * For now, I suggest looking over the article and seeing what level of detail is used. When the article covers over 100 years of history, there can be very little detail without it becoming a book. As a specific example, but only an example, I don't believe that AAC needs to be indicated and even DCT is likely too much. Gah4 (talk) 01:49, 12 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I've removed AAC and MDCT from the summary. If you have any other suggestions, then feel free to mention them on the article talk page. Maestro2016 (talk) 02:29, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

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On a tight budget
i wondering if you can help expend List of most expensive Anime films Fanoflionking  22:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)


 * You can check out List of highest-grossing anime films for some budget numbers. Maestro2016 (talk) 09:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Dear Maestro2016! Can you update box office of Dhoom 3 in Japan and South Korea and 2.0 (film) in Russia and Japan? Thank you! --95.54.103.156 (talk) 12:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

New page
I starting a new page Highest grossing Comedy films and just wonder if you would like to help out on it. Fanoflionking 17:05, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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@Maestro2016 i staring working on a new page just wonder if you want to help out it is List of animated films by Box office admissions Fanoflionking 16:48, 18 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I won't be able to check the article now. But I might have a look some time later. Maestro2016 (talk) 21:47, 26 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I've started having a look at the new article, and am doing some formatting and cleanup for now. Maestro2016 (talk) 15:49, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

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I see that you have found a lot of sources about FFVII's materials. There is something that I've been looking and it's possible design or promotional information regarding Cloud's Hardy Daytona. According to the wiki, it's a direct reference to a real brand known as Harley Davidson. However, I can't find anything about other than merchandising. There is material about Cloud's bike from the Compilation bikes, Fenrir, so I wondered if any magazine explained something about the Daytona considering how it was a given a minigame for the cellphones. Cheers.Tintor2 (talk) 22:08, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, I don't really know much about the Hardy Daytona bike. It could be mentioned in some review or preview in a magazine somewhere, but I haven't looked into it. I don't have physical copies of magazines, but only digital uploads I've found online. I wouldn't mind sharing info on where to find them, if you want to look through some magazines yourself. Maestro2016 (talk) 21:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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so with super Mario bros 3 there is super Mario advance 3 which is the exact same game. Also there is advance 2 super Mario world which is the same as super Mario world. but what about games like super Mario all stars which are just the NES super Mario bros in 16 bit should those count as sales of each game that was on them? Should these count in the numbers for best selling games of all time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

On Your Tetris (EA)
While yest it did make that 100 million mark Tetris EA shouldn't be counted as most of it time on the ios and google stores it was 99 cents meaning you add this game means you have to add games like angry birds in which would same very unfair to games that did really well at the 60 dollar price tag because all the best selling games would be cheap mobile games — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.182.179.111 (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2020 (UTC)


 * See my reply at Talk:List of best-selling video games. Maestro2016 (talk) 10:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

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Hey, Witcher 3 sold over 50 m cookies, not only 27 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.47.131.109 (talk) 10:16, 29 May 2020 (UTC)


 * 50 million is for the entire Witcher series, not Witcher 3 alone. Maestro2016 (talk) 15:46, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * I had assumed your "undue weight" claim was based on Ottoshade's edits, which had deleted a large chunk of content and reduced that section down to a single short paragraph. Is there any other reason for your claim about it being "undue weight"? Also, as mentioned in my recent edit summary: "As per WP:FILMLEDE, the lede should cover controversies. The Kimba controversy is by far the most notable controversy surrounding this film." Maestro2016 (talk) 04:29, 5 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, that makes sense. As far as your question is concerned: While major controversies can and should be covered in the lead of articles, the Kimba controversy is relatively obscure in the grand scheme of things, which the quality of sources in the Kimba controversy section attests to. As I'm sure you know, the fact that it's worth covering somewhere in the article does not necessarily mean that it merits being covered in the lead. In the interest of seeking consensus though, I'm willing to leave it in the lead for now. This might be something worth bringing to the talk page though. --Drevolt (talk) 05:35, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

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Do you by any chance have any connection to the authors of this Bez and Pirovano paper I've seen added in many places? Nemo 12:12, 26 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Nope, I have no connection to those authors. Maestro2016 (talk) 14:44, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Regarding your recent update to the PUBG player count, I believe this number of 734 million is only the mobile downloads/gamers. This is discussed on the Sensor Tower page. It doesn't include the player count from PC and console versions of PUBG. A more complete and accurate number is 804 million. I have yet to find a credible source that has this information on 1 page.


 * Do you have any sources that mention the number of players more specifically? Maestro2016 (talk) 02:07, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Streaming service provider
could you help expend Streaming service provider P+T Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 19:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC) 19:25, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

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