User talk:Maggott2000/Archive 1

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Micheal-Nick
Please Suffice This, From Backstreet Boys The Please Stand Right Now Than These (The Drosses) Please Don't Lie Me , Please You Are Now vandalising wikipedia , And To Now Don't You Know Backstreet Boys Really They the highest selling boyband of all time (Right) And You Don't Know Anything About Them Except The Old Sources Which You Have Or Which Taken Than Old Locations. And I Think You It's Too 60.234.242.196 Thanks 16:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi we need just one from Sources for Backstreet Boys, What about the new album for Micheal Jackson And Backstreet Boys And new singles too Thanks.

I am So Sorry And But I Promise You The iteration Nothingness Thanks.

I think be scenery discography BSB best with Images, And to know the albums and for comfort the scenes from search thanks.
 * Refer Wikipedia talk:Non-free content

Ok, I am with you and but one source we need. 

List of World Records
No problem, and I appreciate the note. If I had to guess, I'd suggest that perhaps you inadvertently edited an older version of the page. Thanks again! --Ckatz chat spy  19:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Confessions Tour (and User talk:Tiago35239016)
hey, stop sending me those messages, all the material added was sourced,and it is not vandalism, it is just a contribution to wikipedia!

You have continually been told that your edit is incorrect,madonna never grossed 260,1 million, this a big lie! and stop sending me those messages, they are becoming annoying like you.And i'll say again that all the material was sourced and that the changes in that article is not vandalism,they are contributions to the wikipedia readers. I can see that you really like to annoy the truly editors.

You have continually been told that your edit is incorrect,madonna never grossed 260,1 million, this a big lie! and stop sending me those messages, they are becoming annoying like you.And i'll say again that all the material was sourced, and the changes in that article is not vandalism,they are contributions to the wikipedia readers. I can see that you really like to annoy the truly editors.


 * the above comments were unsigned by User talk:Tecobelle, although I have never done any reversals for this User. I have however continually reversed edits by User talk:Tiago35239016 with details on why. Therefore these two Users are the same person and breaching policy of having multiple accounts. Maggott2000 05:51, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Hello, I see you've been dealing with this user. Thanks for putting in the effort. There are a few things I would like to make you aware of. Thanks for your contributions, I hope you keep up the good work. Regards, Deskana (AFK 47)  13:42, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Firstly, the difference between a block and ban. A block is a restriction from editing on a technical level. A ban is more of a "concept", the concept that a user is not allowed to edit a particular article or article set, which may or may not be enforced by a block. More information is available on WP:BP and WP:BAN. Vandals are typically blocked, not banned.
 * Secondly, please subst templates. This reduces server load. For example, consider typing as opposed to  . Both would look exactly the same, but the first substitutes the code from the template directly onto the page, preventing the page Template:test3 from being loaded everytime someone visits the page you put it on.
 * Thirdly, I see your userpage was created by a misguided user. I can delete it if you wish.

Rami John
I Know 60.234.242.196 It's Too You If You Don't Want The Stop Will You Be  Scandal In wikipedia And They Will Consider You Lie Of All Time Please Stop I Am Not Micheal Nick Or A.k.s.n You Are Can't Titter With Me, Take Care You Rami John Thanks.
 * User Ramu John is indeed Micheal Nick and A.k.s.n. It does not matter who you call yourself, you are still not allowed to use false references, references that do not meet wikipedia criteria, and go against concensus. Maggott2000 23:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

feedback to User:Salomaria
Comment added to her discussion page: Please do NOT add false accusations to my talk page. All you edits in the end have been removed that I had issue with, and the others it is I who mostly cleaned up the referencing and reconstructed the remaining detail into what it is now. That is evidence in itself that this was not vandalism, and the work of someone trying to achieve the correct balance. Here are the details on what you called vandalism 'tina turner is the top-selling solo act of all time' (removed),'biggest female artist in Europe'(removed), biggest solo act of all time'(removed),'sold 150 million albums'(removed), 'sold 80 million albums'(removed), 'the most amazing comeback in the history of rock'(edited to as I said it should), 'R&B music's first real diva'(edited to what I said it should), 'the most successful female rock artist of all time'(edited to what I said it should), 'tina turner embodies the best and the earthiest meaning of women in Rock...'(removed), as well as the accusations for deleting existing verifiable links, which were just resorted. Apology accepted Maggott2000 09:13, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Users false claims of vandalism
hi maggott2000 i want to know why are you changing the edits in tina turner's page.i can see in your talk page that you had problems in other pages by editing things about famous people. Get a life and stop your edits in multiple articles about famous singers or you'll be blocked too.i have been a tina turner fan for many,many years and i know everything about her life and careear and i'm sure about all the things that i state about her.


 * as with other contributers. You need to specify verified resources, otherwise the detail is point of view only. You have already accused me of being a vandal in your discussions with an admin, who rightfully pointed out that my edits are correct. Wikipedia is here to supply to all Users data that is credible and reliable. All my edits for all 'famous persons' as you put remain as they are as they are factual/verifiable. The detail that I edited/removed has been proven to be wrong. Maggott2000 03:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Much of you edits were reversed. Again for the reasons previously given. Please read up on policies on Verifiability and reliable sources, as you have already been suggested to do.
 * interestingly, this User has been told this and they do not listen. Maggott2000 04:23, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

check it out
 * And if they bothered to read about verified resources as asked to do. Blogs and forums cannot be used.

check it out too if you remove this sourced material again you can be blocked.
 * This is point of view. Also a no no for wikipedia.

this is not a point of view and you know it.i linked you to the source but you didn't read it.

CHECK IT OUT http://oldies.about.com/od/soulmotown/p/tinaturner.htm if you remove this sourced material you'll BE BLOCKED.
 * It says 'Soul Music's first diva. Nothing about Rock Musics first diva as you put.

check it out Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages and delete sourced material you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
 * This is an old wiki clone. That is that it originated from wikipedia and prior to all the mistakes on it being cleaned up. A non verifiable source as per wiki policy as you were told to read up on.

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
 * And add User:189.11.102.179 to the list. Nuisance factor only. Maggott2000 05:41, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Please do not delete sourced material. It is considered vandalism. Thank you.If you continue to vandalize pages by removing material with reliable sources(tina turner embodies the best and the earthiest meaning of women in Rock....), you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
 * sigh ... some people just will not listen or understand. Read the advice everone is telling you. Again just someone who it fnding it very difficult to understand why their edits are being corrected. Read her discussion page Maggott2000 23:15, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. salmoria 3june 2007 (UTC)

note:this material was sourced and has a reliable source, do not remove it or you can be blocked.


 * The issue is not that it is not refereneced, the issue is that it is pov. Maggott2000 03:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --> You have already been told to not delete this material,it has verifiable source. 
 * This is shear vandalism. I have tried to assist, I have tried to ensure that the edits are sourced and useable. I give up. You are truely a troll (internet terms), and therefore need to be dealt with. Maggott2000 03:49, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

please stop deleting the following material you already have been told to stop but you're not listening :"tina turner embodies the best and the earthiest meaning of women in Rock and remains the truest Rock diva of all"http://www.kennedy-center.org/calendar/index.cfm?fuseaction=showIndividual&entitY_id=14582&source_type=A... Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. salmoria 4june 2007 (UTC) plese at least read the informations given in this site.salmoria 4june 2007 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --> you have already been told to stop removing material with verifiable sources from this page.do not remove the following materal anymore: Tina Turner has garnered numerous awards and honors including a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1986, induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1991http://www.rockhall.com/hof/allinductees.asp rockhall.com she is a member of the St. Louis Walk of Famehttp://www.stlouiswalkoffame.org/inductees/tina-turner.html and was inducted twice into the Grammy Awards Hall of Fame   Tina was chosen as one of People Magazine's annual 100 Most Beautiful People in the World, Beauty over 60, in May 2007.. Rolling Stone Magazine has also ranked her #61 on its list of the greatest artist of all time.100 Greatest Artists of All Time. thanks. User:salmoria|salmoria 4 june 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment: The data was not removed. It was put in an appropriate location (under 'Awards'). Again, this User is just not understanding wikipedia. Maggott2000 10:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

the correct changes were made in the page by Isotope23 and me if you wish to change something again please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do.SALMORIA5JUNE 2007

sockpuppet
the above edits were done by User:Tiagotuain, yet the reversals have been for User:Salmoria. One can therefore assume they are the same person (sockpuppet), as both user names edit the same pages. This needs to go via admin. Maggott2000 04:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)


 * As per What is a troll "Dealing with pestering and misplaced criticism", it is my intention to remove all this Users edits. Maggott2000 10:20, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem... and some light reading
If you are not already familiar with the essay... WP:TE.--

tina turner
i agree with you to edit the page that way to keep the "peace" in the page,although all that material are true,but i don't mind, i just want that the page stay in that way that was edited.i'm taking some providences in madonna's page too to achieve the correct balance(POV).IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK THERE,PLEASE DO IT. Salmoria 13:02 5 june 2007 (UTC)

helpme
I am wanting to delete the above "attacks" on my talkpage, as they were created by a misguided User. I however do not want to breach wikipedia policy, so can someone inform me if I am actually allowed to? I list my justifications as follows:
 * Most said warnings are non template created
 * All issues are not vandalism, or meet vandalism criteria. This was a content issue with this User believing that anything they found anywhere on the net or they had heard was acceptable for inclusion. Refer their discussion page also. When others also informed them, this User deleted their comments from their talk page. (I rv the deletions).
 * As per statement I wrote to their talkpage (copied here under header User:Salmoria), all the detail I listed as inappropriate for being pov, from non verifiable links, for being repetitive detail have all since been removed or amended to as I suggested.
 * The two "test4" templates used, one was for moving content to a better position in the article and this User believed it had be deleted. The other was for a reversal I did where this User had removed all the reference tags and set up proper links for "their" edits.
 * There is a probability that this User is a sockpuppet, as half these reversals/comments were done by User:Tiagotuain (see history), who is likely to be User talk:Tiago35239016 as name is so similar and all three used names edit identical articles. User talk:Tiago35239016, I had blocked for making slangerous remarks to the Confessions Tour article. This is likely a revenge attack (pov). Maggott2000 23:08, 7 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I haven't looked deeply into the issue, but the general advice is that you can archive your talk page at any time. Some people even just blank their talk page after a while, since the page history keeps an archive of sorts.--Commander Keane 23:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Backstreet Boys
Why You are do this ? Tell me please, the source so vivid.