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Polo Piatti, if you think you are notable, you can raise the matter at deletion review. -- RHaworth 16:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

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Old town week
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A tag has been placed on Winkle club requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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Winkle Island merger
Magiko, I can see the rational for keeping the Winkle Island article separate from the Hastings article. The Hastings article has grown fairly large already, and adding a little information with a link to Winkle Island seems like it would be a good thing. As a matter of fact, I think it would be good to do with the Hastings Old Town article as well. I'll go ahead and remove the merger notices from both of the articles and mark them as stubs for future expansion. If you want to add a bit of information to the Hastings article about Winkle Island so it can be linked, go right ahead! In the future, you can just leave a message on my user talk page rather than sending me an email about it. Cheers! :-) --Ioeth (talk contribs friendly) 01:52, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hello...
Hello Magiko,

First of all you thank you for some of the edits you've been making so far, and well done for uploading so many good images, however I've noticed you've had an article deleted and one nominated for deletion. You may have a had a look through some of the links on my welcome message, but I think it would help if you had a look at Manual of Style and Featured articles you should get a feel of how a good wikipedia article is written, I don't expect you to read all of it as it is quite a long read! But hopefully you'll pick up the basics of how to make good constructive contributions to Wikipedia.

I see you've uploaded a few pics, which is brilliant! However there can be too many images on an article which become more of a nuisance than constructive, I did a rewrite of the Hastings Old Town article, so it looks better presented and doesn't have an excess of images. Please don't feel that you should stop uploading, as you can still upload images onto this site.

Regards

 The Menace  17:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Tango
Please find published references to reinforce your changes to the various tango pages. Thank you. Binksternet (talk) 20:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

December 2007
Please do not delete content from pages on Wikipedia without explaining the reason for the removal in the edit summary. Unexplained removal of content does not appear constructive, and your edit has been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox for test edits. Carl.bunderson (talk) 07:26, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Please stop. If you continue to blank out or delete portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Carl.bunderson (talk) 07:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Carl.bunderson (talk) 07:54, 19 December 2007 (UTC)


 * This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. If you vandalize Wikipedia again, you will be blocked from editing. Carl.bunderson (talk) 08:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Please provide references for each and every change you make to the Tango pages. There are many opinions about the history of Tango and very little absolute truth: all we can do is compare and contrast the various referenced opinions. You can't simply change the text to be what you prefer it to be. You must have reputable sources and cite them. Binksternet (talk) 01:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of The tides of time
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Sockpuppetry case
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deletion of The tides of time
I deleted the article The tides of time, because it id not in any way indicate how or why the album is notable or significant. Have a look at our Guidelines for music notability. There woulds need to be published reviews or comment from a reliable source or one of the other criteria would need to be fulfilled. I didn't see any indication in the article you created of any such notability. This isn't the same as proving that the album exists. Nor of whether the article as written was or was intended to be promotional (although that can also be a problem). Similarly, the problem with an article about composer Polo Piatti is the lack of any notability indicated in the article.

If you can tell me, even in general terms, why the album and/or composer is notable, and particularly if you can point me towards independent sources that verify this, I can see about recreating the article(s). But remember that Wikipedia is not for bringing things to notice that are presently unknown. It is for summarizing information about things that have already been written about in reliable sources. If there are, for example, published concert reviews (online or in print), that would make a difference. But, for example, blogs, forum posts, and interviews with the composer do not count as reliable and independent. DES (talk) 19:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hello. The links you provided on my page look like they might be helpful in establishing the notability of the album and perhaps of you as a composer. Some confirming data will be helpful. For the "Observer review18.12.09" I assume this was published on 18 December 2009, but can you tell me which "Observer" published this quite favorable review -- there are of course many different newspapers known as "Observer" or "The Observer". The file "File:observernewspaper11.12.09.jpg;" says it is from the "Hastings Observer" -- is that the source for the first as well? And can you indicate the page numbers for each news article?
 * Who's Who is not generally considered a highly reliable source, as they get most of their info from the subjects, but it has some value. One of the articles describes you as "award winning", can you indicate which awards you have won that are of general significance?  It isn't so much that I question your notability as that it must be established for a Wikipedia article to properly exist, and verifiable awards are one way to establish it. if you have other sources that can be cited that will help also. You need not scan and upload -- story title, author, date, publication title, publisher if available, and page number and a relevant quote will do.
 * It is true that there are Wikipedia articles in place that shouldn't be, but because Wikipedia operates on volunteer labor this may jsut mean that no one has reviewed them recently. The argument "This is better than existing article X, so this must be let in" sometimes leads to deleting X, but almost never to not deleting "this" unless there are other, positive reasons as well.
 * It is possible for an admin, such as myself, to restore deleted articles with a good reason, such as finding additional references to establish notability. The tides of time may now be on the way to that goal. I am sorry if the process is frustrating to you, I do actually want to assist you. DES (talk) 20:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note that simple concert listings with little or no critical comment are of lesser value, unless they are for a very prominent venue, where the mere act of appearing indicates a degree of notability. Note also that page numbers, dates and other publication information is helpful in allowing others to verify the references. Note further that scans of newspapers, even if you make the scan yourself, will usually carry the copyright of the paper, and so will not persist on Wikipedia for long. But they aren't required, so that isn't a major issue. DES (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh and you mention "been on radio and television worldwide". Dates and programs of the more significant broadcasts would be helpful. If there is a published listing or transcript that would also help, particularly if it is online, but offline transcripts can also be cited. DES (talk) 20:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * One further point. Starting a media link with a colon inside the double brackets creates a link rather than a display. This is a more useful format for the kind of links you have been providing me. DES (talk) 20:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * English-language sources, when available, are preferred here, because there is a greater chance of a reader begin able to verify them, since this is the English-language wikipedia. And I must admit my personal ability to read other languages is quite limited. DES (talk) 20:28, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No one is suggesting that you are a liar or that your recordings and performances do not exist, although sources for verification are important to Wikipedia articles. What was questioned was your notability. Frankly Wikipedia get lots of newly created articles on bands, singers, and other performers and composers, many of whom have done nothing more significant than play at the local bar, if that. We have thus established the rule that such articles must affirmatively state their significance, and failing that be deleted on sight, so that volunteers don't have to spend endless hours proving that a garage band is only that and nothing more. Your articles have been sort of caught in this unfortunate flood. DES (talk) 20:57, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have created a draft based on the previously deleted article at User:DESiegel/drafts/The tides of time I have used in it the two Hastings Observer stories you pointed me to. But given that this is apparently a fairly local paper, for the area where you reside, which might have covered you in part out of "local interest" I would be happier if you could find any published reviews or commentary from other sources, especially regional or national sources. None of the other items on your website seem to be copies of or citations to independent reviews or critical articles or commentary, or if they are I missed them. I attempted a Google search but found nothing useful beyond what i already have. DES (talk) 22:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If sufficient information on you as a composer can be established to clearly make an article Polo Piatti notable it would support the existence of an article about the album. For this purpose any reviews or critical comments about your preformacs, espically in major newspapers or publications; any specific dates of performances at highly notable locations; details of any significant awards (date, name of award, body giving award, and if available news cite confirming the award); publication details (author, title, publisher and page number) of books which mention you in any detail (more than a mere 1-2 sentence passing reference); any of these would help. DES (talk) 22:11, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If sources are not in English a rough translation of significant quotes would help. DES (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Dear DESiegel. You have been extremely helpful and understanding (and have managed to restored my faith in Wikipedia). In fact you should receive an award for this!

In any case and in the meantime many thanks for creating the draft based article. After reading what you and Airplaneman have written to me, I guess that everything will be simplified if an article on myself would be created also so that both articles can support each other. The only small problem I can see is that the majority of my info and reviews are in foreign languages (especially Spanish and German) and would take a bit of time to translate. However, I can do this, no problem. Also, I have now understood that to protect Wikipedia’s integrity you do need specific proof, reliable sources, precise dates, names and venues that support everything. That is no problem either, I just need a little time to do it (I am working on a composition deadline at present). Fortunately Airplaneman has declared his willingness to help and mentor me! I guess the best to do now is to stay in contact with him directly and provide him with all the information needed for both articles (the The Tides Of Time and the Polo Piatti one). I would be very grateful if you (and Airplaneman) could please let me know if you are both OK with this? I would hate to make any more mistakes. Thanks again. 86.142.31.193 (talk) 08:08, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


 * That will be fine with me. You may work directly with him or with both of us, as you please. I suggest creating a draft for the Polo Piatti article in userspace also. For that one we might need to go through deletion review, I'm not sure, because of the previous deletions. But it shouldn't be a problem. DES (talk) 03:10, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Talkback
Airplaneman talk 23:14, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

A final question
Great, thanks for that to both of you. I just need your help one more time so that I can work on my own from now on. If you can open (or tell me how to open) a Draft Page for the Polo Piatti article I could start. The only important thing is for me to be able to work on the articles by SAVING info on the Draft but OFF-LINE and therefore WITHOUT uploading to the internet. That way I will avoid making any more mistakes before any of you have approved the articles. Can you help me do that, please? Many thanks again. Magiko (talk) 06:33, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I have restored the most recent version of the article to to User:Magiko/drafts/Polo Piatti. Please do edit it there. Changes that will be needed:


 * The "PERSONAL DETAILS" section should be converted from a bulleted list to running prose.
 * the LECTURING & TEACHING ACTIVITIES section should be converted from a bulleted list to running prose and should not read like a personal resume. Items not relevant to the subjects notability can be reduced or omitted.
 * More details should be given on why the subject is significant.
 * Section headers should not be in ALL CAPITALS, but rather in Sentence case like this.
 * Specific quotes from reliable sources should be used that indicate the subject's importance. The more the better.
 * If there has been negative critical comments or reviews they should be quoted too. This will answer arguments of conflict of interest, and will actually help with notability. The more evidence there is of independent third-party discussion, positive or negative, the clearer notability is.
 * Significant performances, and any tours, compositions, and publications should have dates listed.
 * Published books, articles, and scores should show the publisher, and if there is an ISBN or similar ID number that should be shown too.
 * Non-English sources should provide English-language translation of relevant quotes, and the source of the translation should be indicated.
 * Words like "pioneer" should be either removed or, even better, attributed to a specific quote from a source.
 * If any of the films in particular are themselves notable, citations to show this should be provided. If any already have Wikipedia articles, they should be linked.


 * You should be able to edit this without undue interference. However if it sits unchanged for weeks someone may notice it and think that it is an attempt at stealth promotion.


 * I urge you not to try to move it back to the main article space without having me or some other experienced editor, preferably an admin, review it. Since an early version of this was deleted by AFD, we probably want to go though deletion review to restore it.


 * Please keep the requirements of WP:COI in mind and be very careful to write as objective and neutral an article as you can manage.


 * I hope this is helpful. DES (talk) 16:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for everything DESiegel. I truly appreciate your help and advice. I will start working on the Draft Page as soon as possible and wait for your advice (and Airplaneman's) before moving it to the main article space, of course. Airplaneman suggested I should stick to just one account from now on and I totally agree with him. Hence I'd like to declare this openly and keep the Magiko account as my only one. Unfortunately I don't know how (and where) to declare that the two accounts are from the same source? Otherwise I don't have any problem with shutting down my other account - the Polo Piatti account - altogether. I would be very grateful if you could help me do this. I will then do the rest on my own and contact you once my article has progressed enough to be reviewed by yourselves. Many thanks again! 86.142.31.193 (talk) 05:45, 14 January 2010 (UTC)


 * on the user page of your other account (User:Polo Piatti) place the following:


 * This will indicate that you acknowledge that that account and this account were run by the same person, and that you don't plan to use that account again. Alternatively, just place a note at or near the top of that user page saying this in your own words. And then don't log in with the other account. That is really the ony important part -- the not logging in with the other account and editing using it. If you are going to use it, then place a note on the user pages of both accounts indicating that they are run by the same person, and then be very careful to not use them on the same articles or in any way which might make it seem as if you were trying to count for two people. But it is better not to do that. See WP:VANISH and Sock puppetry for more details. DES (talk) 17:28, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

recent changes in the Polo Piatti draft, and work still needed
Phrases such as "His work is highly evocative", "Piatti was considered a musical prodigy", and "eminent choreographer" should not be included unless there is a speciifc independant published source to which you can attribute these opnions by name, in a cited reference. See our guideline on "peacock terms".

In connection with two positions you note "Provide Wikipedia With Contract". Don't bother. A contract is of no value to a wikipedia article unless it is verifiable which would normally mean published. To verify thqt you held a particular position at a particular time a published artilce mentioning this, or a published directorey or anouncement from the institution (either on-line or off-line) would be a proper source.

The text "His main intention as a creator gravitates towards the philosophical and spiritual impact of music on human emotions in both the performer and the audience." shoulkd not be included unless you have said this in an interview or on your own web page or in some simialr place to which this can be refered. Otherwise there is no way for anyone else to verify that this is your intention, and it becomes a case of original research.

The section Training-Education-Diplomas shul,d be convereted from an itimized list to prose so that it reads less like a resume.

I would suggest that the sentance "From a very early age, Piatti has devoted his entire life to music in practically all its forms, working not only as a professional composer and concert pianist but also as an arranger, musical director, conductor, singing coach, teacher, artist developer, artist manager and music publisher in many countries around the world." be revised to read "Piatti has devoted his life to music, working not only as a professional composer and concert pianist but also as an arranger, musical director, conductor, singing coach, teacher, artist developer, artist manager, and music publisher in many countries around the world." This makes the point but sounds less promotional.

I would suggest editing "At the age of 3 he was sent to the Grassi Conservatory in Buenos Aires to attain his first tuiton in piano and music theory. There he finished the Piano Teacher Training Qualification with just 12. At the same age and despite his very young age he was then sent to Argentina’s most prestigious/major musical institution" to "At the age of 3 he started to attend the Grassi Conservatory in Buenos Aires where he first studied piano and music theory. There he finished the Piano Teacher Training Qualification at age 12. At the same age he commend studies at the Conservatorio Nacional de Música Carlos López Buchardo in Buenos Aires (now the Conservatorio Superior de Música de la Ciudad de Buenos Aires ‘Astor Piazzolla’). He graduated with distinction as Professor of Music [Provide Diploma] in [DATE].

(again a diploma is not useful, a published lsit of graduates would be, or an independant article of any date that mentions this fact. For this sort of biographical fact, failing any better source a citation to your web site would do)

The Solo Concerts section needs dates, adn references where avaialable. recies would be nice, but even published notices that the concernt was scheduled would do, given date, name of publication, and page number. If online so much the better, a urkl will also help.

The Original Compositions section also needes dates, adn if any of them have been published, publication information (publisher, publication date, ISBN if available). Again, if ther can be suporting references for any of these it will help, even a published notice that the production is taking place and that the music is your composition.

Above all, additional published references are the key thing.

I hope these suggestions are helpful. DES (talk) 06:50, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks for that, DESiegel. I am fully aware of all your recommendations and suggestions. As I mentioned to you before, I am just "practicing" and adding info before contacting you for a proper and final revision. All comments will definitely be backed up by published articles, newspaper reviews, academic publications, etc. I will now take out all I've written in the article and continue working on a file on my own computer. When finished, I will come back to Wikipedia and paste it into the article and let you know. I guess, this will be best. Thanks again. Magiko (talk) 12:59, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

One more question, please
Can you please tell me how do I send you (and where to?) the files you need to approve specific quotes in my article? (such as publications ISBN numbers, photocopies of articles, links to relevant websites, etc.)? Do I include them in the article itself for everyone to see or shall I send them to you for approval first? Magiko (talk) 09:24, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Include all citations in the article itself. Generally you should not upload copies or scans of articles, but merely give reference citations to them, showing when and where they were published (title, author, date, magazine or newspaper title if relevant, page number, and generally the publisher if available). If copies are already posted online (outside of wikipedia), you may provide a link to them. Online archives run by the original publisher are best. If you choose to scan them and post copies of scanned articles on your own website, outside of Wikipedia, you could link to those copies. But that is not required. (However if the source is not available online, including a relevant quote is helpful.) If a source is not in English, including a translation is helpful (if you do, say who did the translation). See Citing sources and particularly Citing sources for more details. The object, as per our verifiability policy, is that anyone reading an article ought to be able to verify it. Books (and any other publications) with ISBN numbers should have the text ISBN nnnnnnnnnn somewhere in the citation (where nnnnnnnnn is the actual ISBN), this will automatically create a link to a page providing lookup facilities. DES (talk) 20:39, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

OK. Many thanks. I will start writing the article bit by bit now then. Please remember this is a Draft and that I will be providing you with all the necessary quotes, etc. if you need them. And that I will wait for your final approval before moving the whole article to the final place in order to avoid making any mistakes. I am very grateful for your help on this. Magiko (talk) 08:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * I have briefly looked at the current draft. You have obviously done a good deal of work in it. Several points:
 * Inline bare hyperlinks to identify institutions or entities are discouraged. Where a Wikipedia article exists, a wiki-link to it should be used. Where it doesn't a footnote reference to an element of the External links section is a good idea.
 * Inline hyperlinks to serve as source citations are somewhat discouraged, use of the footnote system is preferred. See also Citing sources.
 * In the Orchestral Works section, if these works have been performed, including information about the performance(s), such as the orchestra or troupe who performed them, the dates of performance, and if available a citation to a published work that mentions the performance would be helpful. If these works have been published, full publication details, such as the publisher, date, publication location, and ISBN if any would be helpful. If any have been reviewed or discussed in independent published sources (not press releases), citations to (and, if not available online, quotes from) such reviews or discussions would be very helpful. If any of these pieces were commissions, the source of the commission should be stated.
 * The same apples to the Choral Compositions section.
 * For the "Film & TV Soundtracks" section, if "Copyright Control" means simply that the work is copyrighted, it adds no value. The name of the firm, library or institution that produced each particular film should be supplied. There should be enough information that a user could look up the film in a relevant library or archive. Again, if there were any published independent reviews or discussions of any of he films, particularly ones that mention the score, but even ones that do not but help establish that the film was notable, such reviews or discussions should be cited. Even if this is not possible, a citation that establishes the verifiable existence of the film is highly desirable when it can be provided. Each such citation helps establish the overall notability of the subject.
 * For the "Compositions for Stage", remarks similar to those for the Orchestral Works apply. An indication of what theater company performed the work (if it has been performed), and the date or dates of performance, is helpful. Again this should be supported by a citation to a published source whenever possible, but the information should be given even if no source is at hand. (Others may be able to find a citable source later, given the basic information). i see that some of the works have an ISBN and a publisher listed. This is good. If others have been published, similar information should be given for them.
 * "Compositions for Piano Solo" much the same remarks apply as to the Orchestral Works. If they have been performed, indicate who performed them (especially the premier), where (specific theater or concert hall, not merely the country), and when (specific date or dates if possible). If any have been published, give publication information sufficient to find them in a library or to purchase them, including the publisher's name, date of publication, title of publication if part of  of a larger work, and ISBN if there is one. Again if any published reviews or discussion can be found they should be cited.
 * For "Solo Concerts", specific dates and venues (concert halls or theaters) should be provided. Published reviews or discussion should be cited. If there are several similar concerts without separate source citations, they should be combined. If this section can be done as prose rather than as a list of items, that would be better. Much the same applies to "Choir Conducting", except that the names of the specific choirs should be listed.
 * For "Musical Direction", "Artist Management", "Academic Lecturing", "Teaching", and "Other Activities" prose would probably be better than a list of individual items. Again, any published independent sources to support the facts stated would be helpful.
 * The "Notes" should be automatically generated by reference items, as described in WP:FOOT.
 * I'm not sure what you have in mind for the "Listening" section.
 * Remember that the finished article should not read like a resume or vita, it should read like an encyclopedia article. Examples of featured articles on classical composers are Rebecca Helferich Clarke, Bradley Joseph, Witold Lutosławski, Dmitri Shostakovich, and Leo Ornstein. Obviously we are not going to get this to FA status in one jump. But take a look at those examples and the use of references and lists versus prose in them. Have a look also at WikiProject Composers, which lists some style suggestions for articles about composers.
 * I hope this give you some indications of a useful direction. If it is not clear please drop a note on my talk page.
 * I will edit the draft to to improve the formatting of the existing links and references.
 * I hope this long comment is helpful. DES (talk) 21:31, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

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