User talk:Magnolia677/Archive 12

Your reinstatement of 7 year old data for North Fayette school tax
If you want to keep unimportant, unupdated 7 year old data that I deleted, that's fine. I'm trying to do Wikipedia a favor by deleting bulky and unupdated information. But then you delete the brand new information below??? This makes zero sense.

Deletion of North Fayette School Tax information
Why do you say that this information is inconsequential? Have you ever paid taxes here? It is HARDLY inconsequential. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.221.6 (talk) 15:37, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of West Allegheny School Distrist statewide rankings
Of course the material was referenced. Why do you say it wasn't? Your reasoning makes zero sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.221.6 (talk) 15:35, 9 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Please discuss this on the article talk page. Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 15:45, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of the article for music producer "The Purist"
Hi, under the deletion talk page it was suggested the biography was self published on the site Bandcamp, however this was not the case. The artist in question was selected for an editorial which is something the music service's own staff hand pick and write/publish, this is different to an artists Bandcamp site which would serve as self promotion (which was insinuated). Could I ask if this would still deem the original page as viable for deletion.

If this is the case, I have more sources on hand to cite the artists relevance but I'd like the know the correct channel in which to communicate this rather than just republishing the article.

Regards

ASAPBobbyHill (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:10, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Durham Live and 21st Century Pickering entry
In time, with Durham Live's development, the article section will likely expand with other contributors.

Base geological information
Geometrically Ordered Data. There's so much of it. Woilorio (talk) 08:18, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi - Please don't remove the base geological information being added to the Geography section. We are looking to expand ecological information for Windham and that is the logical place to put it. You previously complained that reference was cut-and-paste, so this has been rewritten from the original source. If you follow the citation you'll find that it is by no means cut and paste. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Watford1955 (talk • contribs) 00:10, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for writing. Who is "we"?  Also, the information you added bordered on nonsensical and appeared to have little or nothing to do with the articles you added it to.  If I didn't delete it, I'm pretty sure someone who leaves less polite edit summaries than me would have.  Thanks.  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:55, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

U of Tulsa article
Added a citation to support, thanks for the pointer, I'm new! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jobin334 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Sylvester Magee Jet article
You pointed out that the text quoted was not from the Jet article after removing my edit. Upon reviewing the article, the quote did not appear in the article and so was incorrectly attributed and needed to be removed. Southern Forester (talk) 23:10, 29 May 2017 (UTC)Southern ForesterSouthern Forester (talk) 23:10, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Montréal Police Article - picture
These stickers are put on by the Union in a protest manner. They do not correctly represent the police force or it's vehicles normally. Hence why a picture with stickers should not be on Wiki.

Mtlfiredude (talk) 20:13, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If you could please next time, just add that to your edit summery. I wouldn't have reverted had I known.  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:21, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

In regard to list of Texas cities nicknames
Please pardon my re-editing. I'm brand new here. Just set up my account a few hours ago. Still learning the ropes. I didn't see your first message until after you had sent me your second message. Bkerr68 (talk) 01:02, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Harold B. Lee Library links
Let me be clear that I'm bothered by the spamming of links to the archival collections of this library by a library employee. It clearly seems promotional (and a conflict of interest). And if I recall correctly, another employee from the same library was engaged in the same enterprise a few months ago. (A WP:COIN report may be worthwhile.) Nevertheless, links to archival collections can be valuable resources to readers who wish to do further research on topics relating to the article. They're used legitimately in many WP articles, as I've tried to explain on the Smoot Dusenberry talk page. 32.218.34.198 (talk) 21:49, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I have commented there. Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:02, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Wallace Rider Farrington
how do i even access the 'talk' area? I've read a few of the protocols and no real guidance there. cheers, jollywally (Wallace Rider Farrington Close) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.187.182.89 (talk) 02:30, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * If you look at the tabs on the top left, all Wikipedia pages have talk tab. This is where editors discuss issues.  We are now using the talk page of my account.  I reverted your edit to Wallace Rider Farrington because you had not added a source.  Where did you get the information you added?  I will help you add the text and the source to the article.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 08:06, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Inuse template Reply
Thanks for letting me know you want to make an edit to Norwalk, Connecticut. I'll leave the template there as I take a break. Please let me know when you are finished! ––→StephenTS42 (talk) 12:24, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll let you know. Thanks.  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:26, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Trey Songz
Hello, my edit to the Trey Songz article did have a source, but apparently you didn't see it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wessantana (talk • contribs) 19:53, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You added Ty Dolla Sign, which was not supported by the source you added. Also, MikexAngel is not notable, yet you added a link to "MikexAngel" .  This isn't how it works.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:04, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Unsourced Content
I am sorry. I am a new user. All of the data that I have changed has come for the US Census American Community Survey. I have just recently figured out how to add sources to my changes and I am adding sources to all of my changes including the Dinwiddie County Article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jahraymoore (talk • contribs) 23:25, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

I would however like to note that I did add a source when I edited the demographics for Petersburg, Virginia, but it has been deleted and switched back to the edit without a source. I do not know why this would happen. My source was the US Census American Community Survey and it had a link. --Jahraymoore (talk) 00:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)Jahraymoore

Please let me know if this is not the proper way to message you. It would also be nice if you could tell me weather that is a correct signature.
 * Thanks for contacting me and the signature looks great. I reverted some of your edits because they were unsourced, but some of your edits also removed decennial census data, which should not be removed per WP:USCITIES.  Please have a look at that document and if you need help please let me know.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 01:01, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * . It's quite alright to add the latest estimate. Just do not remove the official decennial figures. They are what count for important things like election districts, federal funding shares, etc. John from Idegon (talk) 03:42, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Samuel Hollingsworth Stout
Do you think you could upload this picture please?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:44, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually it says "museum property," so maybe not. But it's so old, they're surely wrong about copyright, aren't they?Zigzig20s (talk) 19:45, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Any photo of him will be in the public domain, but that pic has that unsightly watermark across it. I searched for another photo of him but no luck.  Magnolia677 (talk) 19:53, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it would be better than no picture at all? Are you able to upload it please? And the caption could say it is owned by the American Civil War Museum (which used to be called the Museum of the Confederacy before political correctness hit us).Zigzig20s (talk) 19:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * It would really look awful with the watermark. I could crop out the watermark, and the picture would still be big enough to use.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:10, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll let you do it. I don't know how to do this...Zigzig20s (talk) 20:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Do you think it's a start now?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Way too detailed to be a stub. Nice work.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:48, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:07, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I wonder if any of his 7 children were notable...Zigzig20s (talk) 23:32, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I found a genealogy at Wikitree and there didn't seem to be much detail on them. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:45, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Link please?Zigzig20s (talk) 11:18, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe this brother is notable?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:20, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Want to nominate Stout for DYK?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:29, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Josiah Tannehill
Possibly a landowner in Detroit. If we can find out more, I think we should create an article.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Unadilla boldness
Thanks for the edit. But I really see no reason to remove the bold from the section Tripp155 (talk) 16:47, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I left an edit summary explaining my edit. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk)

Briarcliff
Hi. Can you please respect that FAs go through an extensive process to comply with the MOS among other things? This article even went through two FACs and one FAR. The image placement was correct. Images can be placed on the left side, and are actually preferably staggered left and right throughout the article. Look at all the other FAs for examples, and look at MOS:IMGLOC. Thank you. ɱ (talk) · vbm  · coi) 01:43, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There is no need to stagger images at Briarcliff Manor, New York. The layout is fine with the images right justified, and less disruptive for readers.  Being a featured article does not preclude future editing.  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:51, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Are you just trying to attack my contributions? It seems so, as you haven't edited any other New York municipality articles recently, nor any only to right-justify images. Listen - this article underwent extreme scrutiny over every single detail during those processes. It's by far correct to stagger left and right. And when you search for stagger images on the Wikipedia namespace, literally every user recommends staggering, and not a single user complains that they are staggered. This is a problem that only you have, and it's not in accordance with the Manual of Style, which totally allows any left and right staggering. It's also not at all less disruptive (How???), and your way means images relevant to a section are no longer in the correct section, which is disruptive. No policy or guideline says that it has to be that way, so please defer to the regular contributors of the article. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 15:12, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Please familiarize yourself with articles here: Featured articles. They all use basically just as many on the left as they do on the right. Would you like to "fix" all of them, are all of those hundreds/thousands of editors/reviewers wrong? I should also note that I placed the images not only with their relevant content, but also so as not to break up text, e.g. stick out from paragraphs, interrupt flow. These are much more important than the idea of sticking everything to one side, which I think of as a lazy way to prevent text wrapping disasters, which aren't an issue on this article anyway. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 15:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hike The Monicas also said it well: "It's not about preferences, it's about balancing the look and feel of the page to improve readability. If you look at any edited encyclopedia, you will see that exactly zero of them put all of the images on the right side. It's just not done in publishing. I'm at least leaning on historical placement practices used for hundreds of years in professional publishing to support the argument."  ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 15:37, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Even take a look at All the most recent to pass as FAs and then honestly tell me they're all wrong. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 15:53, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Ralph Waldo Emerson said "Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted". MOS:IMAGELOCATION is a guideline, which means a consensus of editors created it.  Editors can always edit contrary to the guideline, but a consensus has already been reached about the best way to do it.  In this case, the guideline says "in most cases, images should be right justified on pages, which is the default placement. If an exception to the general rule is warranted, left can be used".  A valid exception would be if there were too many images to fit in a section of the article.  In this case, the images could be staggered left and right, or placed into a gallery.  What's your exception?  If you tell me again that you moved the images to be closer to their relavent sections, your nose is going to start to grow. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:14, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * So you're just going to plainly ignore all of my evidence and likely thousands of Wikipedians in favor of an Emerson quote? And thousands of years of publishing standards in favor of a poorly-worded guideline? I was looking at the MOS talk page, which has lots of conversation on the issue. Seems the "most should be right-justified" thing came from articles with only one or two photos, where of course it should go on the right. But I'm not sure if you've been an FAC creator/nominator; it's been a longstanding standard to stagger images. For God's sake, look at some of those FAs. All of them. Any of them. Anyway, yes, the "too many images to fit in a section" idea applies. Your placement makes all sorts of problems, where the image of the village founder is not in History but in Climate, where the image of the river is not in Geography but in Neighborhoods, where the Climate chart is also in Neighborhoods, and where the Scarborough, Chilmark, Downtown, and Central Briarcliff West images are not by their respective paragraphs, but instead get pushed down to irrelevant areas, creating a lot of white space in the process. The Historic sites section also gets unnecessary white space. Overall it's very poor formatting, and no real encyclopedia would make such a mess just to follow one less important (and honestly silly) rule. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 16:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That whole "nose starting to grow" comment is honestly rude and obnoxious. No, a climate chart should never belong in a Neighborhood section, no an image of the founder accompanying text on the founder founding should never be moved to the Climate section, nor should such an obscene amount of white space exist in an article, where instead staggering images is perfectly accepted and used ON EVERY FA. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 16:30, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm right in the middle of trying to decide if The Big Book Of Lesbian Horse Stories meets WP:NBOOK, but ok, I'll look at some of the FA's since you asked me to. Actually, tell you what, this will likely take me a while, so when I'm done I'll start a discussion on the article's talk page about this image placement thing.  All the best.  Magnolia677 (talk) 16:42, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think a more relevant discussion would be at an MOS talk. Nobody follows or edits the Briarcliff article except me, so I'm not sure what you're looking for there... ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 17:07, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Anyway, I want to line up the arguments here:

Does this accurately summarize? ɱ (talk) · vbm  · coi) 17:17, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

about links to special collections
Hi, I noticed that you have been reverting the links that User:Katelyn Sun (BYU) made to our special collections to various pages. The cultural professionals page on the Wikipedia Library specifically states that adding a link to a special collection is appropriate when it's a useful or definitive collection. Perhaps not all of the links she added were definitive sources, but for a page like Oak City, Utah, I believe the centennial history in our collection is probably one of the best sources on the subject of Oak City's history. A subscription to the library is not required to view the finding aid for the object in question. Anyone who comes to special collections can view it. We make very little money off of our patrons--even overdue fines go to a general university fund to avoid COI.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:16, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Editors need to be cautious of spamming links to their website across multiple articles. Most of the links that editor added required a subscription, and I doubt most Wikipedia users are prepared to travel to BYU to view your resources.  I started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:External links.  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 09:57, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

So-called "Disruptive Editing"
Magnolia677, my editing has not been disruptive. I don't see why my addition of an 'Associated Acts' section on Kodak Black's page is being removed as it seems every other artist in his respective field has this section, and so it seems strange that Kodak does not have one. The acts that I put on this section have collaborated with Kodak three times and twice, and so, can be seen as associated acts. I hope you revise your removal. Benarnold98 (talk) 13:00, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I reverted my edit. My apology.  Magnolia677 (talk) 14:11, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Map
I'm not sure why you added the pushpin map back to the Norwalk article. We still never got any consensus for it, and you're not following the good and proper procedure WP:BRD, which I think would be proper in this case. Regardless, please seek consensus on controversial changes before implementing them, and especially before re-implementing them. ɱ (talk) · vbm  · coi) 23:31, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Seek consensus to add information to an article template? You're joking right?  If the town came up with a new motto, or elected a new mayor, or added a new area code, you'd expect those editors to seek consensus before adding that information to the town's article?  Consensus has already been reached by the editors who created that template, and included no fewer that four perimeters for adding a pushpin map.  That template is now used on 460,000 articles.  "Controversial", oh please.  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:58, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You're being rude, while I'm just trying to work out this issue. Most editors on Norwalk did not want the map, and now that some are banned from editing it due to disputes, you feel you can now do whatever you want there? You can't. Someone creating a template, and some people mass-adding it to articles doesn't mean it has global consensus. I am going to take this to a higher forum later, partially because your conduct is improper, offensive, and not following standard procedures here. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 00:04, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Part of the problem here is that on this very talk page you've called me or my edits "disruptive", "silly", and "rude". In a recent discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline, you described the arguments of those who opposed you--including me--as "irrelevant" and "silly, excessive, and ridiculous".  When I encounter people, either here on Wikipedia or in real life, who regularly use insults, threats, shaming, flamas or humiliation to get power; or people who, after I have interacted with them, make me feel worse or "dirty" for having done so, then I do my best to avoid them.  Basically, I follow The No Asshole Rule.  Therefore, please stop reaching out to me here on my talk page and take your concerns to one of the many discussions going on about this.  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:45, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I mainly referred to your edits, if I recall. However we're all human, we all get tensed up and aren't 100% super civil. But that's no excuse for your level of improper conduct here. I will take this elsewhere. ɱ  (talk) · vbm  · coi) 00:49, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Historic Buckeye
The references and sources are within the article. I do not understand why you have been having issues with me and the article since the beginning. I am a respected photo journalist and a historian which has been recognized by the government. I would really appreciate it if you stopped taking issues with me as if you had a personal agenda. Take care. Tony the Marine (talk) 03:00, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for writing. I'm concerned that images and places at List of historic properties in Buckeye, Arizona, have been added to the article with the claim they are "historic", though their historic notability is not obvious or sourced.  For example, the grave of John G. Roberts.  Is this grave recognized anywhere officially for its historic importance?  Also, much of the bolding in the article needs to be removed, per MOS:BOLD.  Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:27, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response. What a day! I've been busy documenting historical structures. In accordance to the Pioneers' Cemetery Association, which is a member of the Association for Graveyard Studies, the Yavapai Cemetery Association, and the Arizona Genealogical Advisory Board (AzGAB), a historic cemetery is one that is fifty+ years old. The Palo Verde Baptist Church Cemetery was established in 1903 making it 104 years old. The only person whose grave is in the cemetery and who is of historical significance is that of John G. Roberts. This is because he was a founding father of the Palo Verde area and because he played a historical role in the development of Buckeye and it's surrounding areas.

When I took a look at the article of Buckeye Airport, I asked myself "is this an Ad?" the reason being that it lacked substance which most people expect to find in an encyclopedia. The substance it lacked includes the history of the place. The airport started as a base for the United States Army Air Force, Luke Aux #5. It's historical significance comes about it's association with World War II. Only two images of the planes which are now historical artifacts were included. There are many things which have been omitted from many articles and our history books in general, I believe that is one of the reasons that the Pentagon asked me to write articles related to the omitted historical facts related to military.

The historic Highway 80 and pictures of it through Buckeye is a given. Even though I do not see anything wrong with the "bold", it is only my personal opinion and if policy requires "no" boldness, then out with the boldness. Hey, I hope you have a nice day. Tony the Marine (talk) 19:26, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Cleaning up Maryann Keller...
Hello Magnolia677: I see that you edited this article before, thank you for that. I'm volunteering my time to cleanup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryann_Keller, but I can't make edits as I work for the subject, for details see (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maryann_Keller). If you can, I'd super appreciate it if you can review the article and make edits/comments as updating this article is super important for all parties. I've also made some suggested edits here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maryann_Keller#Request_edit_on_12_June_2017. Thanks in advance for your help!
 * Who are "all parties"? Magnolia677 (talk) 20:04, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. As I mentioned on the talk page, your efforts will be genuinely appreciated by me, my colleagues, and future visitors to this article. I explained the whole situation on the talk page, but long story short, although he says he didn't, my nephew(a programmer) may have hired a third party to write this article. He was just trying to helpful, I've explained the whole situation on the talk page. If you are still interested in making edits, that would be awesome and very much appreciated. Thank you.
 * Why are you blaming your nephew? You're the managing director of Maryann Keller & Associates, and you actually created the first draft of the article here.  You're a paid editor too.  If there's something inaccurate in the article, it would be best to leave a message on the article's talk page.  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:38, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
 * My preference is for Wikimedia to delete the article, but they suggested I find editors to clean it up instead. Yes, what you wrote is mostly true, as I explained on here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Maryann_Keller#Solving_issues - I even posted my phone #, so I'm not trying to mask my identity. Regardless of fault, I recognize that mistakes were made and I apologized for them on the talk page, including my failed draft page. Also, I'm not a paid editor; I'm not paid to write on Wikipedia or for my work on resolving this issue. With that said, I do have a partial party conflict, which I disclosed in my intial message to you. If you are unable to help, I understand, and I appreciate your past efforts. Thank you.
 * Yes, mistakes were made. I'll have a look at the article. Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:11, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You work for the subject but are not being compensated for editing Wikipedia? That doesn't exactly make sense. John from Idegon (talk) 00:52, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Majid Jordan contribution
Hello, I added some information on Majid Jordan that you removed because it was awkwardly worded. I really wanted to add this information to the page. How can I word it better? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TaniaR001 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for writing. Most of what you had added is already in the article.  It's best not to add too many minor details, like who sent who an email, but the basics of what you had added is already there with a source.  If there's something missing let me know and I'll try to help.  Thanks.  Magnolia677 (talk) 21:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Pfff
...And what happens to the rest of the article? You might wanna take it all down since it's unsourced. I add nothing but true info, your block-threat is very unnecessary. Still, I'm not gonna insist. Peace. --Kemal K. (talk) 16:09, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That's actually very good advice that I've started to follow. Both Starlito and Doggy Style Records appeared on my watchlist today, and at both those articles the majority of content was unsourced original research.  Both articles had also been tagged as unsourced long ago.  I therefore removed the unsourced content.  I have many times in the past tried to confirm the unsourced content in articles like those, only to discover a lot of half true information.  For the readers of Wikipedia, no content is surely  better than unreliable or potentially untrue information.  Again, thank you for contacting me about this.  10:08, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

American Airlines Arena Music Section
The List of Concerts in this section is way too long. Is there a way you can create a seperate article for it? Megacheez (talk) 04:18, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Eau Gallie Arts District
This is the arts district trying to build its own page. We are not editing your page so please leave ours alone. Furthermore, I am entitled to edit the Brevard County FL page. Please explain to me how you can just delete what you want? The section there is inaccurate. Not only that, the link for Cocoa Main Street is DEAD and the one for Melbourne isn't live and has nothing to do with downtown Melbourne.

Lcpackard (talk) 16:55, 21 June 2017 (UTC) --Lcpackard (talk) 17:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for writing. What you did was start an article on a page that had already been "redirected" to another article.  You also included no source, and your edit appeared promotional.  Please take a moment to read Notability as well as Your first article.  Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:03, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Collin County, Texas. Fort Bend County, Texas. and Denton County, Texas
You reverted the edits that I did to the above articles. I added the 2016 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau to the lede paragraphs. You reverted all of them and then you put a nastygram on my talk page. What you did not do was actually read the articles because if you did you would have seen that all three articles already had a citation to the information in the population infobox. That's why I did not add a second unnecessary citation because the citation was already in the article. You should actually read the article befor you made the reverts and before you placed the nastygram on my talk page. I have reviewed your edits and generally you just go through randomly and blindly reverting edits of others and then giving them a nastygram. I suggest you learn to actually read the articles that you revert on before you revert. Revert if you must but you should check and see if the citation is actually in the article first. You are not assuming good faith when you revert blindly, ignorantly, and randomly. It is inappropriate.--SlackerDelphi (talk) 16:13, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You are correct. Please accept my apology.  The random addition of demographic and climate data is heavily vandalized on city articles, so perhaps next time you may wish to add an edit summary "added population estimate cited in article", or something like that.  Also, the edit summaries you used when reinserting your edit: "Restored correct info that was removed by User:Magnolia677 blindly", followed by another edit with the summary "added unnecessary citation to stop Wikipedia Editor User:Magnolia677 from making irrational and blind and inappropriate edits and irrational and incorrect comments", made me feel even worse for having upset you so much.  Anyway, I'm right in the middle of trying to decide if The Big Book Of Lesbian Horse Stories meets WP:NBOOK, but thanks for your comment.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:53, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * If you just had simply reverted me and explained on the talk page of the article I would not have added the extra commentary. But you did not do that. You reverted me and then you sent me a nastygram. The nastygram was way over the top. Good luck with The Big Book of Lesbian Horse Stories.--SlackerDelphi (talk) 18:50, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Your talk page is littered with "nastygrams", and some of your edit summaries border on pottymouth. Perhaps I could suggest you read Help:Getting started.  I gives new editors an overview of how the community works.  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 16:51, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * That's just an excuse for your behavior. It doesn't wash. You acted inappropriately and you got busted and now you are crying.--SlackerDelphi (talk) 18:10, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

This user is polite?
Def. Gonna call that into question. --47.19.185.138 (talk) 18:56, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Alabama mansion
Should there be an article about this? Or the owner/seller? Or his company?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:04, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Three-way bridge revert
I may be missing something. How can an article about "three-way bridges" have any bridges with more ways? If you want a "n-way bridges" article, please feel free to create it, but this particular article is about three-way bridges. What am I missing, please? - Denimadept (talk) 23:52, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You are quite correct. The article should have been titled "multi-entrance bridges", or something like that.  Many of the bridges indeed have more than three entrances.  In the article's lead I've tried to address this.  Personally, I think every city should have one, they are that cool. What shall we rename the article?  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:20, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see you've already started to butcher the article. It's one of my favs too.  Could you at least start by removing the wikilink from inside the quote, per MOS.  Adding back the sizable information you cut would be nice too, especially if a more fitting name for the article could be found.  Yes, you are right, they are not "3 way bridges", but really, who cares?  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:24, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
 * What quote? The name of the article is fine.  Adding non-3-way bridges is not. - Denimadept (talk) 03:48, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Casey Veggies
Im sorry lol. Just did it for a meme then changed it back. Wont do it again. Do you like casey veggies? GoobyGlop (talk) 06:44, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Air & Sea Show
An article that you have been involved in editing&mdash;Air & Sea Show &mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. WikiVirus  C (talk) 04:59, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Coldwater, MS
Hi! Why do you keep changing the Notable history section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:3C9:4180:D00:6C05:E7CD:6C9D:3918 (talk) 18:29, 8 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I removed names from the section that are not notable. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:33, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

William Hester
Hello. Are you remotely interested in expanding William Hester please? He was from Mississippi. There is more to add about his views on the South African team under apartheid for example.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:59, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey Zigzig20s, I've been overwhelmed with real life lately so have had little time to edit. I likely wouldn't have much time but I'll see if I can find an image.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 19:01, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I, too, have been editing less--the new president is bringing back jobs!Zigzig20s (talk) 19:21, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * No beef about the new guy here. I created Trump, Colorado.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:09, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you think it was named after Frederick Trump?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:13, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I added everything I could find to the article, and didn't come across who the town was named for. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:16, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I've added a bit more about Hester. Please let me know if you think the lede is too long.Zigzig20s (talk) 06:23, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The article looks good. The lede seems just right.  I looked for a photo, but they're all copyrighted.  Cheers!  Magnolia677 (talk) 08:31, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I also expanded this.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:21, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

about the unnecessary revert
Ill Niño started their career under Roadrunner Records back during the nu metal era. As Roadrunner is owned by WMG, the band's material under the Roadrunner label is owned by WMG. There's nothing really to prove. Sorry for the trouble. -- ULTRA-DARKNESS ''' :) 2 CHAT 18:52, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. Perhaps a line could be added at the top of the article listing all the subsidiaries of Warner.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 18:56, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The issue is that there's too many subsidiaries of WMG. It would be better to put a notice with a link to all the major labels under WMG. Sorry for the inconvience. -- ULTRA-DARKNESS ''' :) 2 CHAT 19:00, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Hollywood Forever Cemetery
Hello. Do you know why the Hollywood Forever Cemetery is nowhere to be seen at National Register of Historic Places listings in Los Angeles County, California or California Historical Landmarks in Los Angeles County, California please? I would like to read the PDF because apparently there is a Confederate monument there. ("So will Hollywood Forever Cemetery, where the Long Beach chapter of the United Daughters of the Confederacy maintains a Confederate monument.")Zigzig20s (talk) 21:35, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Here is the listing. Interesting place, but no mention of a Confederate monument.  Magnolia677 (talk) 21:57, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It is there. I've added the LA Times quote and hopefully will find more later.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:07, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I've just found a YouTube video of the monument and some graves. Obviously not an RS, but still interesting.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Miltimore House
Let me know if you are able to expand this please. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 22:47, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Baldridge House
You might enjoy Baldridge House!Zigzig20s (talk) 02:58, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Very nice. I tried to find a public domain photo but no luck.  Magnolia677 (talk) 11:49, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Dan Haren
Dan Haren no longer plays in the league, and my edit reflected that. I am relatively new to editing Wikipedia so you could you please tell me why that was removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GoPackGo1227 (talk • contribs) 20:14, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for writing. There's no need to say "former" because what he did doesn't change now that he's no longer doing it.  It's like saying "George Washington, former US president".  More importantly, it would require thousands of edits to be updated daily as notable people retire from their jobs.  I hope this makes sense.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:20, 14 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I understand now. I'm sorry if I sounded rude. Thank you so much. User:GoPackGo1227
 * You were downright polite. If you have any questions feel free to ask.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:26, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Neva Eva
Sir, this is Bushido Brown. I actually did the "music video" article of "Neva Eva" by Trillville. So, to say I may be blocked from editing for this is malarkey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BushidoBrown (talk • contribs) 23:02, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune revert
You did the revert and this is what I have to share with you for your further thoughts.Mcb133aco (talk) 19:03, 15 July 2017 (UTC)mcb133acoMcb133aco (talk) 19:03, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

An archivist at the Seabee Museum archives sent me the attached document.(IT IS NOT POSTED ONLINE as far as I know - SO YOU EITHER HAVE TO GO THE ARCHIVE OF HAVE IT MAILED)

This is the response I received to a request for help:
 * This should likely be discussed at the relevant article's talk page. That said, Wikipedia content should be based on reliable published secondary sources. The memorandum is a primary source, and whether it's "published" seems debatable. And you didn't even cite "Construction Batallions with Marine Corps, memorandum written by Lt. Cdr. A.J. Pay, USN, 5 August 1942, document No. XYZ at the Seabee Museum Archives, Port Hueneme, CA" but merely "Seabee Museum Archives, Port Hueneme, CA". I rather do not think we can expect our readers to read the entire archives to verify a specific claim in a Wikipedia article, and I doubt Magnolia677 could infer which document you were referring to. Huon (talk) 17:49, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Please discuss on relevant talk page. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:19, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Notability check of articles
Can you check notability of the articles under Template:Painters_from_Kerala.61.1.217.242 (talk) 01:43, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems ok. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:36, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

ocean grove, nj
Magnolia677, do you live in og? I do. The 4 major fires in 7 years have literally left hundreds homeless. I noted this, citing the Asbury Park Press 3/4/17. But, some people would rather discuss Hurricane Sandy and gay relations in Ocean Grove at great length and eliminate any discussion of important issues. Thus, the Wikipedia cite for Ocean Grove, NJ has become jejune. Sufferingsurfer (talk) 01:38, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I reverted just one of your edits here, because you added unsourced content and removed sourced content. Another editor removed your content because it was unsourced and questionably encyclopedic, which led you to make uncivil comments about that editor.  Take a few moments to read about how editing on Wikipedia works, and then find a reliable source to support your edit. Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 09:51, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

JFK, Jr. Article
Thank you for the "thank you" on my edit to the Kennedy Curse. Unfortunately, but rather predictably, a Kennedy worshiper reverted it.John Paul Parks (talk) 16:26, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It was kind of POV, but hilarious and so true. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:00, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Manitoba
Hi there, I put in the "sometimes considered" that you reverted on Manitoba because so little of Manitoba's land is located in the Prairie bioregion. This is in contrast to Alberta or Saskatchewan, which are each around half Prairie. Interlaker (talk) 04:25, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, ok. It just looked out of context. Is there a way to include a brief explanation?  Thanks!  Magnolia677 (talk) 10:00, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Cotulla Ranch
Do you know how to add a map to Cotulla Ranch please? The elkman tool is not working for this (possibly because it was listed relatively recently). I know Jeff Bezos grew up on a ranch near Cotulla and maybe this one. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 23:03, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. My pleasure. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:16, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Eabametoong First Nation
Harvey Yesno was the equivalent of a priemer/governor of the First Nations people in Northern Ontario. The area he was in charge of includes over 526,371.87 km2 or land. Roughly the size of Spain. There are the Northern Ontario Ring of Fire mineral and ore deposits in those land. The First Nations grand chiefs are currently not recognized as important leaders by some in Canada. Premiers deserve wiki pages, so should their equivalents.

Riley Yesno - don't know if they are related. Became a member of Canadian Prime Minster's youth council. The Prime Minister's Youth Council has a list of the members, I added Riley. I was going to add more but I did not have the time. As a member of the council she will be advising the Prime Minster and members of his ministry. . Since she would be listed on that website I assumed I could list her there.


 * The best way to assure the notability of these two people is to write an article about them. Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 02:36, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Book
Would you mind taking care of this please? Of course direct quotes from the author trying to sell their book are advertising. It's been added and re-added by an unidentified editor (probably from their phone). Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 01:56, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

New Prussia, Ontario
I noticed you redirected New Prussia, Ontario to Regional Municipality of Waterloo. Why did you make the redirect? Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 04:02, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


 * There really was nothing wrong with the article (it passed WP:GEOLAND), and if challenged, my redirect would likely be reverted. I added the redirect because there was nothing of substance to the article.  It consisted of just once sentence: "New Prussia is a geographic location in Wilmot Township, Waterloo Region, Ontario, Canada."  This is the same information a Google Map gives.  Please have a look at Template:Wellington County.  Most of the unicorporated communities were redirects, which contained little more than one line of information.  Last spring I removed many of those redirects and added some historical information to the article.


 * I was able to find some interesting history for New Prussia. Please see: .  Adding this history to the article would make it much more worthwhile to the readers of Wikipedia if you choose to restore the article.  Thank you for writing.  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:08, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I see why you redirected it, so I'll add the history and expand the article. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 22:10, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for expanding the New Prussia, Ontario article. I made a few minor tweaks myself and it looks great! I mentioned you at WikiProject Canada/The 10,000 Challenge.  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I noticed. Nice job expanding it! Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 00:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Tallahassle
Did you revert all of this person? I'm tired of checking after several pages of their contribs. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  07:21, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I reverted about 10 articles and then ran out of time to finish. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Howdy
Hey Magnolia677, Coal town Guy here. I was able to get to some cool places in the WV state capitol, and am in stride to get the article beyond start. Quick question, do you recall the tool we used to have to find articles with no refs? I have tried to use my old link and it aint there anymore, ergo, WHERE is the link that will take me to the land of places needing refs? A little slower here, but still lookingCoal town guy (talk) 22:51, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice to see you back. I've never used that tool.  This was the best I could find.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:05, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Please respond
Please take a moment to respond back to the discussion that you opened up about me at the ANI. I've noticed you continued to edit normally and continue revisions, but you haven't answer any of the users that pinged you. And we are all waiting for an answer so we can move the discussion forward. Horizonlove (talk) 20:06, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I reported you at ANI because you refuse to remove an offensive warning about me from your talk page. You have targeted me simply because I tagged your talk page with warnings after you continued to add unsourced content to articles.  MY ANI REPORT ABOUT YOU IS STILL ACTIVE and hopefully other editors will respond there.  Magnolia677 (talk) 21:49, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * But why you will not answer the questions that were asked of you there? As Jojhnjoy said, you're evading the questions. So as far as I'm concerned, the conversation is at stand-still. You seem to be getting frustrated because things are going the way you want, with all the bold font and capitalized words. Other editors don't need or have to respond, you just need to respond. Horizonlove (talk) 22:06, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Possibly, but it's weird to ask someone to stay off your talk page while repeatedly posting on their talk page. I suggest you just let the ANI thread take its course, and stay off this talk page, since you are asking Magnolia677 to stay off yours. Thank you. ---Sluzzelin talk  22:20, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * We are trying to move discussion forward, but Magnolia677 hasn't been responding instead continuing on editing as if he didn't get notified that some questions were addressed to him. Since Magnolia677 wants to start a report about me, it would behoove of them to respond to important questions that are asked of them. Quite frankly, I don't care to be on his talk page or have anything to do with him. But it would be nice to finish this discussion so I can proceed with my retirement. Horizonlove (talk) 22:31, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Horizonlove removed the offending banner, ANI closed. Let's go make an encyclopedia! John from Idegon (talk) 01:08, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Cities/towns that become unincorporated
Is there a standard opening sentence for cities that have recently become unincorporated (i.e., dissolved their government through referendum or other means)? Do we just change the first sentence from "X is city in Y county" to "X is an unincorporated community in Y county," and mention something in the article about it being a former city? BrineStans (talk) 17:18, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for writing. The only way I've seen it done (but can't find a real example) is to write a typical opening, along with an explanation.  For example:

"Smithville is an unincorporated community in Bolivar County, Mississippi, United States. The population was 1,289 at the 2010 census. Smithville unincorporated as a town on August 1, 2017, following a referendum in 2015."
 * Later in the article you could give more detail about the unincorporation. Don't forget to change its location in the county template at the bottom of the page.  I hope this helps.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 18:27, 8 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks. The city in question is Allensville, Kentucky.  I've already made a few changes.  BrineStans (talk) 18:31, 8 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Not for nothing, but shouldn't we have a category for that? John from Idegon (talk) 23:56, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice work on that article! John, do you mean a category for Allensville, or a "formerly incorporated" category?  Magnolia677 (talk) 01:03, 9 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Formerly incorporated. Also, municipalities that have "downgraded" from city to town or village. Seems like an interesting phenomenon and it seems to be occurring more. John from Idegon (talk) 01:07, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello John, yes, its becoming very common. As people leave cities in specific formerly industrialized areas, they do indeed UN incorporateCoal town guy (talk) 01:20, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I did some searching. The parent category is W:Category:Former municipalities in the United States, but the parent category needs some reorganizing, because it includes W:Category:Former cities in Alaska and W:Category:Ravenna, Seattle.  I'm not sure what a municipality is, compared to a city or town.  Magnolia677 (talk) 01:25, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The problem is each state has its own vocabulary. A town in Wyoming, aint the same as a town in West Virginia or PennsylvaniaCoal town guy (talk) 01:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * So if the category "Former cities in Kentucky" was created, should its parent be W:Category:Former municipalities in the United States? Again, I'm not exactly sure what a municipality is.  That's why I was wondering if "cites" should be teased out from "municipalies", and have two categories under the parent W:Category:Former municipalities in the United States.  Magnolia677 (talk) 01:45, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The Wiki article for municipality seems to indicate (sort of) that it is any administrative division smaller than a county, so adding "Former cities in Kentucky" to W:Category:Former municipalities in the United States should be ok.  Magnolia677 (talk) 01:53, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes my working definition of a municipality is a legal settlement other than a county. And Coal Guy is 100% right. In some states, townships are municipalities, in some not, and even in some, some are and some aren't (Michigan for one). But the bottom line answer to my question is, yes, we do have at least the root category for that. Thanks guys. John from Idegon (talk) 02:07, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, W:Category:Former municipalities in Kentucky does include former incorporated places, such as Wyandotte, Louisville. Unfortunately, the category has mistakenly also been attached to some ghost towns, such as Birmingham, Kentucky.  Magnolia677 (talk) 02:10, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * This became a hot topic a few years back. A ghost town, NOT the same as a formerly incorporated entity, but yes, there can be a sharing of that category, Ghost towns which were formerly incorporated etc etc. Best way is to create a SUPER category, examples, again this is notional, Former Cities, a city has to have a charter etc etc, municipality, thats tough, depending again on the state, the category might need to reflect that state name in the category titleCoal town guy (talk) 02:20, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

John Holliday House
Hi. Just created this stub. Perhaps you'll want to expand it? Apparently Holliday owned another plantation west of Aberdeen known as Holliday Place. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:16, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I added a bit. It's a beautiful home!  Magnolia677 (talk) 15:06, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Henry M. Hyams
Hi again. I wonder if you could find out more about Henry M. Hyams's plantation. I was thinking of this today as yesterday's rally was so ahistorical. These violent thugs are so misinformed (all religions were involved in slavery). I wonder if stupidity leads to violence?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:36, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Deep questions indeed. What did you think of the pic at John Holliday House?  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:44, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Very nice. I think you could add yours inside the infobox and add a Wikimedia Commons category to wikilink to. We don't really need the old one any more. Were you able to take pictures inside please? And, I wonder if you could find anything about his plantation, Holliday Place, too. As you know, I believe real racists (allegedly) want to erase history to pretend everything's fine, while they live in high-income communities developed on former plantations and ignore reality...Zigzig20s (talk) 12:50, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I never got inside. There is another NRHP house a block away that I have a great picture of.  No Wiki article yet.  Magnolia677 (talk) 13:05, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Please ping me when you've created it.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:08, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Are you able to find a copyright-free picture of Henry M. Hyams please?Zigzig20s (talk) 13:21, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hyams seems to have been camera shy. I did find this excellent resource however.  Magnolia677 (talk) 14:26, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I see no preview. I think that depends on one's algorithm for some reason. The text looks fine as a start, but a picture would be nice.Zigzig20s (talk) 14:36, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I've added a bit more while looking for a picture on Newspapers.com, in vain so far. The Lafayette Cemetery could probably do with an article, don't you think?Zigzig20s (talk) 14:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * This reads like Gaiennie Plantation near Campti, Louisiana, doesn't it? And I don't see it at National Register of Historic Places listings in Natchitoches Parish, Louisiana.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:09, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Move
Hello, How can we change the name of Rainbow International School, Seoul page to Korea Foreign School. The name of Rainbow International School, Seoul is changed to Korea Foreign School. Rainbowseoul (talk) 12:55, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It's tricky, bacause so many other articles link to the school by the name is uses now. I would leave a message at the Help desk.  Also, I left a conflict of interest message on your talk page.  Editing your own school article is not advised.  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 13:02, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your prompt reply. The school name just changed on June 28, 2017. Still old name isn't deleted from the web but it will be done this week. Thanks for your help! Rainbowseoul (talk) 13:06, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

The Jewish Confederates
Would you be able to upload the cover and add it to the infobox please?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:27, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 13:36, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thanks! Magnolia677 (talk) 15:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! You're doing a necessary improvement. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 04:35, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Map request
Hi. Could you please add a map to Confederate Memorial Fountain (Helena, Montana)?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:12, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Bordeaux, Wyoming
Bordeaux, Wyoming may be a ghost town. Are you interested in creating it please?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:16, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * - GNIS lists it as a populated place, and there still looks to be a house there. It's right on the train line, and I see you've linked John C. Hunton to it.  Let me see if I can put together a stub.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Yes, that is why I am interested in it. Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 19:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * DoneCoal town guy (talk) 19:49, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I added the linked fella and added it to an appropriate WikiProject. Ain't teamwork fun? John from Idegon (talk) 19:58, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It is very WikipedianCoal town guy (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , I did not add it to ghost towns WikiProject, as it doesn't appear to be quite there yet. If you feel it appropriate, go for it. John from Idegon (talk) 20:10, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice work! Magnolia677 (talk) 20:16, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I wonder if we could find the genesis of the name--maybe Bordeaux?Zigzig20s (talk) 20:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I actually started this this morning. It's named for James Bordeaux, who established a trading post and roadhouse there in either 1849 or 1867. It was a place of "much drunkenness and many brawls". The problem is, my source contradicts itself on dates, see. I also try not to use too many books published by Arcadia, though this one has lots about the settlement. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:45, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I cant speak to Wyoming very easily, but Arcadia does have excellent resources for certain parts of West Virginia. I also took a look at the USPS Postmaster finder page and found nothing there on Bordeaux. That is expected but once in a while you do get a nice surprise20:54, 22 August 2017 (UTC)Coal town guy (talk)
 * Why do you refrain from citing books published by Arcadia?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I use Arcadia, but try to find the original source first. Arcadia books are published by the author (so I believe), and I'm not sure the editorial oversight is as tight as you'd find from a mainstream publisher.  Some Arcadia books are excellent, while other are sloppy.  It's just been my experience.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:46, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Arcadia has been interested in some of my work on coal towns in WV, in all honesty, their fact checking is not at the best because they tend to take the experiences of the author as opposed to a fact check. This is not so bad with ghost towns as the arguments are usually over minutae, we had a post office on main street NOT the big street etc etc, HOWEVER, from a reference view, it might be better to have more than one. JUST MY OPINION, thats allCoal town guy (talk) 23:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Your edit to Redondo Beach, California
Hi Magnolia677 and thank you for your work on Wikipedia. I'm looking at your revert of my edit – thanks for your diligence and careful checking. In fact, the article states that Dodson died in 1993 after working for 25 years in Redondo Beach. His best seller, How to parent, was published in 1971. If I conclude that he wrote it (and many subsequent books through the 70s and 80s) in Redondo Beach, do you regard that as unjustified? Happy either way... Cheers — Hebrides (talk) 12:21, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The consensus of the editors of WP:USCITIES is that the notable people section is for individuals "that were born, or lived for a significant amount of time, in the city". Are you able to find a source to support that Fitzhugh Dodson both worked and lived in Redondo Beach, California?  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Prompted by your question, I've searched but haven't been able to find his residential address at that time. The best that I can find are sources that describe him like this: "Dr. Dodson, a Redondo Beach, Calif., psychologist, author, and lecturer, says this new extended family would give maturity, enrichment, and stability to the family as a unit -- contributions that are extremely important in this period of change." I guess we just have to take a view as to whether this kind of description is sufficient. — Hebrides (talk) 12:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It's quite common to live in one city and work in another. We had a house in Sagaponack, New York before moving to Allen, South Dakota, but always worked in some other city or town.  Some editors are real sticklers for this so it may be best to leave it out until a source to support it can be found.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 15:25, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Fine – I'm happy with that. I'm confident that the wording I originally put into the page was correct, but if it unjustifiably implied that I was certain that he lived in Redondo Beach then it is correct to remove it. Thank you again for your meticulous diligence. — Hebrides (talk) 16:14, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Kirwin, Wyoming
Looks like Kirwin, Wyoming is another missing ghost town. And I have found this gem!Zigzig20s (talk) 03:19, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It was right next to the mine, see . I'll put an article together if someone doesn't beat me to it.  Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 14:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * DONE, it also had a post office and I provided the GNIS data for that as wellCoal town guy (talk) 14:42, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Great! Magnolia677 (talk) 14:43, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Talk page also created noted as a stubCoal town guy (talk) 14:44, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice. Did you forget to finish the sentence though?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:19, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have moved the reference about the postoffice to the end of the sentence. It looked like the sentence was not finished for some reason.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:10, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * GROOVYCoal town guy (talk) 16:23, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Wyoming Pioneer Association
We need an article about the Wyoming Pioneer Association, which is run by the Wyoming Pioneer Memorial Museum in Douglas, Wyoming!Zigzig20s (talk) 19:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Coal town guy: Would you be able to help with this please? Or are you only interested in articles about ghost towns?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:40, 26 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I am guilty of being primarily interested in ghost towns. I do however thank you for askingCoal town guy (talk) 02:21, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Events Mankato, MN
Hi, I'm messaging because I'm unclear how my post "appeared to be promotional". It is a section on events. Some of the events have sponsors and some don't. I think to say that a solstice event or Pow Wow experience with no sponsors is promotion. What is it promoting? It is just a list of the most popular events that take place in the community and it's listed under the events section. The event left by the other use is no more or less promotional.

I'm simply doing this edit as part of a class project and am hoping to resolve it. What exactly needs to be done to this post to make it not appear promotional? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjanen (talk • contribs) 17:43, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for writing. I'm not sure if your teacher explained to you what plagiarism is, but it's basically the copying of something that someone else wrote, and not giving that author credit for it, or not changing the words enough so your paraphrasing doesn't violate copyright.  Wikipedia has strict rules about this, and coincidentally, the Code of Behavior at Mankato West High School also discusses plagiarism.  Said another way, copying and pasting this website into a Wikipedia article and signing your name to it isn't going to get you a A+ on your class project (or a barnstar on Wikipedia).  Moreover, Wikipedia editors have agreed by consensus that a complete list of some town's month-by-month events is fairly non-encyclopedic, and stuff like that usually gets removed lickety-split.  You may want to read What Wikipedia is not and WikiProject Cities/US Guideline for more details.  I hope this addresses your concern about why I reverted your edit.  Magnolia677 (talk) 02:47, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * And next time do your homework before you confront someone with your victim attitude. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:00, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Merrellton, Alabama
Merrellton, Alabama may be another ghost town?Zigzig20s (talk) 10:13, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * GNIS still lists Merrellton as a populated place, probably because of some nearby homes. There was a post office from 1884 to 1923; a photo here; and it had a railway station, though the track has since been removed and is now the Chief Ladiga Trail.  Merrellton is in the List of tornado-related deaths at schools.  What led you to this hamlet located next to Flat Tire Creek? I see you edited Herman Clarence Nixon two years ago.  His article states he is from Possum Trot, Alabama, though a number of sources say he is actually from Merrellton, see .  I'll put together an article in the next few days if User:Coal town guy doesn't beat me to it.  Cheers.  Magnolia677 (talk) 11:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is because of Nixon.Zigzig20s (talk) 12:11, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for creating it!Zigzig20s (talk) 23:31, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Amos Deason Home
Amos Deason Home needs a major clean-up, if you're up for it!Zigzig20s (talk) 18:04, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Mobb Deep Associated Acts
Why did you remove my addition of Ghostface Killah to this section? He has collaborated with them alongside Raekwon, so they both belong there. There is ample evidence of this. Joe Kourieh (talk) 14:20, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * It was added without providing a source to support it. Also, Ghostface Killah isn't mentioned anywhere in the article.  Please see Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup/1, which should help you.  Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:46, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Is this listed?
Hello again. Are you able to find out if this house is listed on the NRHP or not please?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:31, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The house is located here, but doesn't seem to be listed at National Register of Historic Places listings in Shelby County, Tennessee. Snazzy part of town.  About five minutes from there is this place that really is worth the drive.  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:55, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Are you being ironic about Corky's?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:55, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Corky's makes some nice ribs, though the best ribs in the south are at this place. I took this photo of the Alfred Hatch Place at Arcola a few miles from there.  Magnolia677 (talk) 08:46, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

User:Ma46891
Hello, Magnolia677. I'm new to editing Wiki, and see that you recently edited an article due to a source problem. The article is titled Maryland House of Correction. I read the article and see what I consider to be conflicting information, in addition to other information that tends to go off the path of what the article is actually about. It's also lacking in quite a bit of information. I believe the reason for such things is the result of certain editors personal interests in portraying the article in a certain light. I'm not saying that you wrote it the way that it is written, but I see that you are the most recent editor, and when I clicked on your name it shows that you have contributed quite a bit on Wikipedia, so was hoping you may be able to help. I also don't know how to start a new talk topic on here to ask you, so just typed it here. I looked around quite a bit to find a way to start a new talk topic. I don't know how else to communicate on here or if it's even possible to edit an article without someone else just coming back a day later and changing it back to what they want it to say for their own interests or political interests. Thank you for your help. Ma46891
 * Thanks for writing. I'll respond you your talk page.  Magnolia677 (talk) 13:07, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Cumberland Iron Works
Hello. Would you be interested in working on the Cumberland Iron Works, which may (or may not) be the same thing as the Cumberland Furnace, please? Slaves worked on it, and the manager's son, Eugene C. Lewis, became the chairman of a railway company and developed parks in Nashville...Apparently there was a "slave panic" there in 1856.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:50, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * According to this, Montgomery Bell expanded the company. It was located at Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee, and George T. Lewis was manager.  There was indeed a slave revolt.  My Wiki time has been limited of late.  A workaround may be to add the info as a history of Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee until an article can be written. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:14, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I think it could do with a stand-alone article, especially given the slave rebellion. User:Legacypac: Are you interested in this please?Zigzig20s (talk) 16:45, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Since Cumberland Furnace is so short, I suggest expanding it and adding a redirect there. I might work on it too. Looks like an interessting topic. Legacypac (talk) 16:51, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Legacypac: Fair enough. By the way, Antoinette Polk was an heiress to the Van Leer fortune...Zigzig20s (talk) 17:01, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Confederate Private Monument
Hello. I am looking for a picture of the Confederate Private Monument. Do you think this is copyright-free please? Also, could you please add the map?Zigzig20s (talk) 07:09, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I looked around for a free image but no luck. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:17, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Hopefully someone will take/upload one soon!Zigzig20s (talk) 10:23, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Could you please add a map to Sam Davis Statue as well?Zigzig20s (talk) 10:46, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Florence Plantation
Hello. Do you think I should delete User:Zigzig20s/Florence Plantation, or are there more RS? Or would this stub in main space be useful?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:56, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I wasn't able to find any sources. Magnolia677 (talk) 13:09, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I have found a bit more.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I've moved it to main space. Do you think it should get deleted, or merged with John C. Calhoun II though?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:45, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Bobby Dodd
Magnolia; as previously requested, please explain your reasons for removing all of the items that you removed from Bobby Dodd article on the talk page of that article (stating "removed photo" in your edit summary is not an adequate explanation). thank you - Mistercontributer (talk) 22:57, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please start a discussion on the article talk page. Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:48, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Done - Mistercontributer (talk) 00:38, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Magnolia; I have been very patient with you up to this point. I have asked for your input on article talk page and so far you have refused to answer my questions regarding this issue. I even offered a compromise solution to this situation which you completely ignored. If you continue to revert my edits and remove items from this article then I will report you for vandalizing this article. Mistercontributer (talk) 00:33, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Magnolia; this is an article you have obviously spent a lot of time improving. However, this article contains pictures of plaques with words which are not spelled out in the article. Why are you not concerned about this issue? Mistercontributer (talk) 01:37, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I have requested a third opinion regarding our content dispute. Magnolia677 (talk) 11:53, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Harwood, Arkansas
Harwood, Arkansas may be a ghost town in Chicot County, Arkansas. Could you please create it?Zigzig20s (talk) 12:31, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * DONECoal town guy (talk) 16:21, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 16:53, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

A goat for you!
I am not sure why you reverted my edit of Meyersdale, PA. Harry Beal, of Meyersdale, was the first Navy SEAL. Please Google him. Certainly being the very first Navy SEAL is worthy of mention in the Wikipedia page for Meyersdale.

JohnTopShelf (talk) 22:07, 11 September 2017 (UTC) 
 * Thank you for the goat. I read about Beal and he is without question a true patriot who has made a great contribution to his country.  That alone, however, does not guarantee a Wikipedia article, or inclusion in a city's notable people list.  Also, this source says Beal was "one of the first".  Please take a look at Notability, and if you feel that Beal meets the criteria listed there for an article I will help you write it.  Thank you again for the goat and for helping me learn more about Harry Beal.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:20, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

A goat for you!
Harry Beal was THE first SEAL. He was the first to sign the paperwork, in a ceremony with President Kennedy, to join the newly-established SEAL program. please read this article: http://www.cnhinews.com/news/article_f8d8c530-99d5-11e5-9a5c-07df620cbfd7.html

JohnTopShelf (talk) 22:26, 11 September 2017 (UTC) 
 * , it isn't uncommon for newer editors here to have a misconception of what Wikipedia's somewhat unusual use of the word "notable" means. In the simplest terms it is our qualification criteria for including an article on a given subject. When you see "Notable people" lists in a settlement article, the qualifier to be on that list is the same as the qualifier to have a biography on Wikipedia. In our usage here, notable does not equate in any way with important or significant (or even useful, and only tangentially with famous). It isn't a matter of my opinion, your opinion or Magnolia's opinion. Notable means, in its simplest form, that a given subject has been written about (made note of, hence the name) in detail in multiple reliable sources, totally independent of the subject. It is up to you to show that. There are some circumstances where a certain level of accomplishment will be recognized as an indication that the above described sources exist. For the military, those exceptions would be having achieved the rank of general officer or having earned any country's highest military honor (in the US, that would be the Congressional Medal of Honor). Outside of those exceptions, the only way to show a person is notable is to create a biography of them that will pass our general notability guideline. Hope that clears things up a bit. Please don't infer Magnolia is a goat again, that is unless you preface it with "old". J/K, Magnolia. John from Idegon (talk) 02:09, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Kam Franklin - no consensus?
Hi Magnolia677, I'm curious why you closed the Kam ranklin AfD as "no consensus"? There were 3 "keep" !votes and the only "delete" vote was from John Pack Lambert, who votes delete on everything. The article currently has 39 references, which is more than enough to positively establish notability. Robman94 (talk) 20:04, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Jax 0677 closed it. Magnolia677 (talk) 20:22, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, right, my bad, thanks! Robman94 (talk) 21:29, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Montreal Police pictures
Back in may we talked about the union stickers not representing the Montreal Police in a good light. I removed some other pictures (I have contributed with my own) and you reverted the edit. However, back in May, you told me you wouldn't have reverted my edit had you known they did not show the police in a good way. So can we remove them? Mtlfiredude (talk) 23:12, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the barnstar. That was a fun little drive around the NE Mississippi backroads. BrineStans (talk) 00:03, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Arkansas Counties
I was adding ALL of the unincorporated communities in those three counties. No, they may not have links, but I was adding informative content. I followed the same editing as is in the "townships" sections which also do not have linked pages. These are legitimate places. You can look on any map of North Central Arkansas and they will show up. Eamo8911 (talk) 02:10, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Updates you made to Kirkland Lake.
You removed a notable person from the homecoming celebrations. Julien Robazza always performs in kl  every summer. His aunt owns a Pizza parlor there called "Goldland Billiards ". I use to live in that town. MrBigTime17 (talk) 23:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * He didn't appear to meet the criteria listed at WP:N. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:51, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Founding faculty of Southern colleges
Not sure if you are interested in adding more referenced info about how many slaves the founders of Southern colleges owned (if any)? For example, a few years ago I created articles about the early presidents of the University of Mississippi. Do you think there are enough RS please?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:44, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Let me have a look. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:16, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Just so you know, so far I've found Landon Garland, who owned 60 slaves before the war, gave a pro-slavery lecture in 1860 and was the president of the University of Alabama during the war. His daughter married Ole Miss Chancellor Robert Burwell Fulton.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:00, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

How about you read the articles
I suggest you start reading the articles and stop reverting other editors edits. If you do not, I will get an administrator involved and they can take it from there. JimmyJoe87 (talk) 20:01, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please stop your disruptive, unsourced editing and edit warring.
 * At Roger Casale, you added W:Category:British politicians of Italian descent. Where in the article is there any mention of him being Italian?
 * At James E. Livingston, you added W:Category:United States politicians who were awarded the Medal of Honor. Where in the article does it state he was ever elected to office?
 * At Hiram I. Bearss, you added w:Category:United States politicians who were awarded the Medal of Honor. What political office was Bearss elected to? Magnolia677 (talk) 20:17, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

September 2017
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at List of monuments and memorials of the Confederate States of America. JimmyJoe87 (talk) 21:40, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Please stop your disruptive editing. Now you are adding fake warnings to other editors.  Vandal.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:06, 21 September 2017 (UTC)