User talk:Magnolia677/Archive 2

Why did you edit my home town page with misinformation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IAmColt (talk • contribs) 03:52, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Robert J. Marzano
I changed the information on this page on behalf of Dr. Marzano because the information was completely outdated. I work with him. I also know that I do not need to cite sources for published books as this information does not require a source. I have cited everything else in the article. Thanks -- Rogers0031

Shoeless Joe
I changed Shoeless Joe Jackson's batting average to the correct value. Here is the reference. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/j/jacksjo01.shtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by Desertmonk (talk • contribs) 22:11, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
I keep noticing your articles getting marked as reviewed, so I thought I'd do this since there's obviously no need for your work to be checked. I hope you don't think it's an imposition. You don't actually have to do anything, but maybe watchlist the page for a bit to see what happens. I have no doubt it'll be routinely granted.&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:11, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, that was fast. They gave it to you. You won't even notice, but it'll trim the unpatrolled pages list. Congrats!&mdash; alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:28, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Previous versions
When looking at the article history tab, you can compare two versions and then undo to go back to the first version. You can also click the date and see the previous version, "edit " to open the old version and then save to re-establish the article as it was then. No fancy roll back tools needed. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  12:05, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Out of Curiosity
Just out of curiosity, why did you rewrite the Zoorassic Park section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmwalter (talk • contribs) 03:27, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

I completely understand! Thank you for clarifying and helping to make Wikipedia even better! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmwalter (talk • contribs) 12:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Culver City, CA
If you're going to remove content from this page for supposedly unsourced content, then you need to be consistent and remove all content for "unsourced content". That would include Drew Barrymore (whoo by the way did *not* live in CC), Jack Black, Dee Dee Davis, Jackson Browne, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.34.88.118 (talk) 13:37, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Robert Petway
The link referenced in the article shows evidence that Petway may have been born in Gee's Bend, Alabama Boykin). According to the article, there's as much evidence, if not more, that he was born there as opposed to Yazoo City. Is there another reason this was deleted? Just wondering. Thanks! Dofftoubab (talk) 17:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Principality of Sealand
The update tag was needed because events of 2013 were mentioned in the future sense, and because certain things need to fixed regarding the death of Prince Roy. p b  p  19:54, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Chinese Canadian
Hello, I delete your editing of the page Chinese Canadian. My younger brother is a Chinese Canadian, he speaks French with a French accent, because he learned French in cartoons before going to school. And there are many Chinese Canadian who speaks French with a French accent, because they learned French in cartoons, or they don't want to speak with a Canadian accent, the Canadian accent is strange, the word tête is pronounced "tight". 162.247.121.237 (talk) 19:50, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

LC
Hey, thanks for helping with the Lake Charles article. The only thing I don't like is the picture under the industry setting. It's an old picture, and only barely shows the industry in the background, while some family is in the foreground. It doesn't really do much justice for the topic at hand.

CTtcg (talk) 15:18, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Well if I had to choose one, it would be the Sunset over Olin-Mathieson picture. I just don't think showing individuals in a picture like that is a good idea, even if they are older photos. CTtcg (talk) 16:02, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I like the edits on Prien Lake too. It's good to have more information there. I readjusted the pics. When the new casino is built that old photo can be replaced with one showing both of them. CTtcg (talk) 20:04, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

You reverted my edit of Lake Charles Music "It is the subject of the song, 21 Miles to Lake Charles Prison, performed by Johnny Paycheck and written by Aubrey Mayhew" with the request "Please provide a reference stating the location of "Lake Charles Prison"" I don't understand the relevance of the location of "Lake Charles Prison"" This is about a song, not a prison. VaderSS (talk) 19:39, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Greenwood High School
You are welcome. As for fixing it myself, I might not have the correct information or the inclination to look for it. Further, I have made what I consider to be helpful revisions to articles, only to receive a stern note from someone, and to have the edit reverted. Given the tight censorship maintained by Wikipedia, I have decided that simply pointing out the error, and letting anyone who desires to do so, fix it, is the best course of action. John Paul Parks (talk) 15:53, 18 May 2014 (UTC)


 * I was referring to past editing experiences involving other articles, and not involving the article on Greenwood High School. My impression of Wikipedia is that each article, or group of articles, has a hovering sponsor or patron who monitors it constantly, even obsessively, and reverts edits of which he or she disapproves.John Paul Parks (talk) 20:39, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Klamath Falls
Hi, Magnolia.

Thanks for your observation. The name has two distinct parts: Klamath + Falls, each with their own origin. Klamath, although tough to find an exact origin, is intimately related to the people that lived in the "region". Falls relates to the white waters just downstream of the Link River Dam. Perhaps the epigraph ought to be rewritten for clarity to reflect these two unique aspects of the name of the city. Good day Bobjgalindo (talk) 22:29, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Why don't we move this to the talk? I think some revealing data can come out and improve that section ... no? Bobjgalindo (talk) 22:36, 29 May 2014 (UTC)


 * ✅ Stop by when you get a minute and thank you again for your insight. Bobjgalindo (talk) 17:52, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit reversion
Hi Magnolia677,

Sure the images are mine, but I'm not adding them for my own benefit; I don't even say they're mine anywhere but each image description page. I added them because Valhalla has very few images and could use some, so free images of anything Valhalla should be most welcome. I also made the gallery collapsed, because I know the article is primarily about Valhalla, and don't want fire department images so prominent on the page. So I don't see why the images aren't welcome on the article.-- ɱ   (talk)   14:53, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

McDowell County WV...hmmmmmmmmm
LOOKY FINALLY made it there..YEGADS, what a trip. NICE pic of Elkhorn by the way......Coal town guy (talk) 14:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Appreciate the note, I have been doing interviews with folks from the area, Mom has started the long crappy path of alzheimers and I thought this would be my last shot at a cogent interview about a long list of places in WV with her as well...it was....THEN I did a large trip, and BAM, back to the world of edits again/...sorry fr the lack of responses...the interviews were not as easy as I thought for sure, learned alot.Coal town guy (talk) 14:38, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Jenkinjones, WV
MOST EXCELLENT, I see you made it to Jenkinjones, DID you perhaps see the Jenkinjones Union House and of course the Pocahontas Fuel buildings?? I wish I knew you were there, Andy who lives above the offices is a nice guy who happens to reside in the clerks offices above.........Coal town guy (talk) 18:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I got to the two Pocahontas buildings at the south end of town, but most of the rest of the place seemed residential or abandoned. Approached the town from Virginia in the south.  Interesting demographics in Appalachia; the highest average age in the county, and epidemic overdose rates.  Everything revolved around coal.  Still, lovely people and breathtaking scenery.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * AWWWW MAN, you missed [THIS] and [THIS]...get back when you canCoal town guy (talk) 21:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Killarney WV
Killarney disappeared in totum by ~2002, or 03. In the winter we had the ability to see the house foundations, thats pretty much gone now, in 09, they wiped the hollers slick due to flooding, and by the way, that was the death knell for Pickshin WV as well. There WAS a church there, but its gone. The processing plant is East Gulf Proper BUT all other belts feed the East Gulf Plant. When you follow the belt down what we call coal city road, it stops at the East Gulf Plant. Believe it or not, (you probably will), there was a time when you could sit on steps of the old houses..The mountain in the newer topo maps is also a misnomer. That mountain is the spent coal/waste pile of another town, Lillybrook. Lillybrook, has some VERY small homes that are on the edge of being dozed, but that town proper should also be a ghost town. Lillybrook was for all intents a giant, as was Killarney, its old processing plant was gargantuan even by todays standards.Coal town guy (talk) 14:15, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Did I ever tell you, how much I miss it?...Coal town guy (talk) 14:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Few places are as breathtakingly beautiful. Mines, trains, mountains, rivers...and nice people.  Hard not to miss all that! Magnolia677 (talk) 14:41, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * As a child, I bragged that I never owned a train set, or really any train toy, I had real ones to play with.Coal town guy (talk) 14:43, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * UPDATE, added something from Killarney.........Coal town guy (talk) 14:17, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Sports Stadiums
I have made a start on reverting Ahellweg's attempt to rewrite history. I did 15 reversions, in chronological order, from his oldest one up to Target Field. I'm telling you just so that if you plan to revert some yourself, you needn't bother checking those. It's boring work, so I doubt I'll be doing any more. Maproom (talk) 20:48, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I actually left the message at the help desk in the hope that someone might be able to "nuke" the edits.  I may try a few myself.  Thanks again.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:54, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I've done most of the rest, in chronological order, up to Heinz Field. There's about 20 left. Maproom (talk) 18:27, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Alligator, Mississippi
Hello, you deleted my section. But i don't know how to insert resources, SwampRockMusic (talk) 17:21, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Lake Gogebic
The Lake does lie in both Ontonagon and Gogebic Counties and it is one of the largest geographical features of the area hence the reason to add it to the Ontonagon County page. The view of the photograph shows the Ontonagon County portion of the lake. Skyrunner75 (talk) 17:25, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Westwood Studios
Hi there, I've changed the edit back and replaced the citation needed tag with a real reference now. I was going to get back to it later. Usually tags and citations themselves shouldn't be in the lead (as per WP:LEAD) so I removed that tag and replaced it with a real one in the article. Thank you. ☠ Jag  uar  ☠ 20:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

County census data
The sources are up to date but the population density data is not. Urbanative (talk) 00:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)


 * The U.S. Census Bureau also releases estimates and the last one was released a few months ago for 2013. Population density is calculated by dividing the population by the land area. Urbanative (talk) 03:20, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Gregory Peck
If you are to delete the birth years of Peck's children from his second marriage, how come you have yet to delete the birth years of the children from his first? There are no sources to prove theirs either. Hitcher vs. Candyman (User talk:Hitcher vs. Candyman) 20:18, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

2015 Pan American Games
This is a template that changes the link there from simply the country (Brazil) to the page as destination of the tournament (Brazil at the 2015 Pan American Games). Check it out. That's the pattern for this kind of situation. ;) Indech (talk) 17:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it's there for a reason! If you look at the template code when editing, the number can be left out erasing it in the code itself. For instance: to  . But it's there because it shows the number of athletes qualified so far. Check out when it's more complete in articles like 2014 Youth Olympic Games.

Issue
Hi Magnolia677,

As DRV isn't the best place for this I figured we should discuss here,

I apologize If I was unhelpful on my talkpage - It wasn't my intention at all,

My reply to you wasn't supposed to have been unhelpful at all, I admit the "because it seemed notable?" remark was perhaps unhelpful but it seemed to me that you didn't have any idea about AFD hence why I pointed you in that direction,

I'm the politest & nicest bloke you could ever speak to :) - but I'm also "uncivil" when "things go wrong with everyone" if you like,

Anyway I apologize And I also apologize for the AFD message which I've now removed :),

Anyway If you need any help just ask :)

Have a nice day, Regards, – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  22:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:19, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Your welcome :) – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  01:20, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Improve Argument
Hi Magnolia677 I seen you disagree with the article I have written, it fails WP:ENTERTAINER you voted. Well please explain why you disagree, when I notice several articles that doesn't meet the Wikipedia guidelines but it not nominated for deletion. Please review this article of Paul Bates with no references to what notability with minor roles. I don't understand how this article is allow without explaining its point of view or reliable source of verification. Another argument is this article Brittney Wilson she shares the same resources database as I used. She doesnt have any other references of explanation to be consider notable as a entertainer. My last argument is this article Young Cartoon has no notability and fails WP:ENTERTAINER, exceed dead links and article doesn't meet any standards to be notable. In conclusion if these articles can pass and be accepted to Wikipedia guidelines, my article should be Kept as well. I think you help me saved my first article from deletion and help improve it. Please talk to me -- Iranmichealst@lk 23:27, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for writing. He just seems pretty non-notable.  I clicked on many of the references cited in the article and they didn't even mention Prince Richardson.  He doesn't seem to meet the criteria listed in WP:ENTERTAINER.  If you think he does, add the references to the article, and explain why you feel the article should not be deleted.  Cheers!  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:20, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

bogue chitto, ms
I noticed you made some edits to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogue_Chitto,_Lincoln_County,_Mississippi You noted you were removing someone born in chicago. Removing Bobby Moak who is the state representative for this district and lives and has an office on monticello street in bogue chitto. I believe the section was notable people and not people born in Bogue Chitto. If you google to find his bio, why not see that his home address is in Bogue Chitto?... http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/members/house/moak.xml Although, I completely disagree with this edit, that's not why I'm reaching out. You seem to have made a manual edit and noted it. For some reason you care or you're just a nit pick. Anyway, for whatever reason, I need some mentoring. I'm missing something. 1. Why would you go to the trouble to find out that Bobby Moak is actually born in Chicago and then make that edit? 2. Bogue Chitto is the city with the highest divorce rate but http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20130214/NEWS01/302140041/Love-gets-tested-Bogue-Chitto ... the link is now behind a paywall and there is a note with the edit... "unsustainable". How do I fix this? 3. The main body of the article depends on a history gathered by the eastern star and DAR but the link is now dead, how do I fix that? That pretty much destroys the page. At which point, the page might as well be marked for deletion. For a page that is so completely and thoroughly insignificant, I've received a constant stream of edits, but I'm completely open to suggestions which is sadly what I find lacking from wikipedia. I'm putting it all on the line. Tell me how to fix this page or kill it. Shi Jun ning (talk) 17:30, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Mississippi census-designated places
Hi-User:The Catalyst31 added a list of census-designated places to the user page and there are 4 census-designated places in Mississippi that need articles. You may want to look at the list. I thought you might be interested since you have started articles on Mississippi unincorporated communities. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 11:07, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look. Thanks!  Magnolia677 (talk) 11:56, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Grants Pass, Oregon
Are you giving me homework? I have no obligation to go and find refs for other editors' allegations. Edits with "citation needed" for a year or so are not credible, and have no place in the article.--Mycomp (talk) 05:33, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Homework? More likely asking you to reflect on what your purpose is on Wikipedia.  I think we should all be here to build the project.  Ok, you find a bunch of names in a list you feel don't belong, so you delete them.  I looked at the first name of those you deleted--the first one--and in less than 2 minutes found a reference showing he did belong.  And if I have time, which I probably won't, I'll fill in refs for the rest of them.  Some people do what's easy, others do what's right.  But if you simply deleted those names, without even checking to see if in fact they were from Grants Pass, then shame on you. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:55, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I didn't just "delete a bunch of names I feel don't belong", I deleted a bunch of names that had a "citation needed" tag added by another editor about a year ago. Cleaning-up is also a task that needs to be done. And if you don't think you will have time to find more refs, why do you think I do? And your edit comment "go find others" sounded like giving me homework. But OK, I will keep out of the articles I see you are editing from now on. Have a nice day.--Mycomp (talk) 12:26, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

Moorhead MN
Magnolia677, thanks for your attention to the Moorhead, Minnesota page. I understand you altered my entries and you are correct, I am new to Wiki editing. I established an account when an individual contacted the City to update the employment section. Be my guest if you are willing to do so in a more accurate way! I wrote the City's website so don't consider using this content as plagiarism, but sorry if it is. My goal was only to correct outdated references and to get enough edits in to attain status necessary to update the City's logo. If you would like to do so on the City's behalf, please do! That would help tremendously. http://www.cityofmoorhead.com/about-the-city/logos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moorheadfactchecker (talk • contribs) 14:19, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Alton,il
I undid an edit. i was in error for doing so without contacting you. My apologies. I had not been on the site in some time and had forgotten how to get to you for a question, William Paley attended and graduated from Western Military Academy in Alton. It was a boarding school. Paul Tibbets who was also a WMA student was previously on the Alton Page. The city of Alton recently created a city park to memorialize the Graduates of Western Military Academy. The Memorial obelisk in the park highlights the accomplishments of Paley,and Tibbets among other WMA grads, Please let me know what I need to do. Thanks, Cbjack68 (talk) 15:41, 16 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for writing. If you look at WP:USCITIES, it outlines notable people as those "famous or notable individuals that were born, or lived for a significant amount of time, in the city."  If living in Alton had a documented influence on this person, then it's great that you listed him.  I think this rule is to avoid listing every place a famous person ever lived.  Thanks.  Magnolia677 (talk) 18:35, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

In reply
Hi! I'm sorry but my net access is going to be severely limited for the next month or so, so I will not be able to do anything to help in the situation you described.

As a matter of fact, my access is going to be so limited that I need to ask you for a favor. Could you keep an eye on Bowling Green, Kentucky for me? I had a dust up with an editor there who took great offense at my very appropriate revert of an edit they made. You'll be able to figure out what is up from a look at the article's talk page, and possibly mine and his (don't think you will need to look at the talk page at the edit war noticeboard or at the request for mediation.) I really don't know how things spun so bad, but I am sure that at some point he is going to replace the stuff that did not belong in the transportation section. Please do what you can. If that is nothing I understand. Thanks! John from Idegon (talk) 16:50, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll add it to my watchlist. Cheers!  Magnolia677 (talk) 18:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I did review the COI policy and I find no conflict with my role as a public servant. My goal is current, accurate information about the City of Moorhead. If you are able to upload the current logo, that would be most appreciated and constructive. The prior logo has been discontinued. Moorheadfactchecker (talk) 19:24, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Mooresville, looking now
AHA, Mooresville is an accepted name variant, [LOOKY LOOKY]....Hope this is not old hat for some of you, I will of course taker a look at the Factfinder to see if its still a CDP or notCoal town guy (talk) 15:33, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Mooreville, is a CDP. [here], did you want to edit this for the article??Coal town guy (talk) 15:36, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * DID some edits, even got the Mooresville alternate name, LOVE the etymology, I can get it there tomorrow, MORE PT, looks like BOTH knees are shot yaaaaayCoal town guy (talk) 00:58, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Hot Coffee, Mississippi ‎
The name "Old Order German Baptist Brethren" for the "Old German Baptist Brethren" is an old and today misleading usage. Since 1921 there is an other group called‎ "Old Order German Baptist Brethren", therefore the name "Old Order German Baptist Brethren" for the "Old German Baptist Brethren" fell mostly out of usage. For sure there are no ‎"Old Order German Baptist Brethren" in Hot Coffee, Mississippi. I'm an expert in Anabaptist groups. --Metron (talk) 10:59, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah...ok. Thanks!  Magnolia677 (talk) 13:39, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the revision to Ocean Springs, Mississippi
I understand all the removals, except the seal. I'm a resident of this city, that is our official seal. It's pictured on all our signs, found in the high school and school district building, and found on the tower on Government Street. Also, it's found on the official department vehicles for the city. It's not found on the site, unfortunately, for whatever reason they have. However, I do know the seal is official. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rockstomas (talk • contribs) 01:02, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Second reply regarding Ocean Springs
Here's an image where it's used, it's not precisely the image, however it has the two Fluer de Lis's on top and bottom followed by 1699 in the middle. http://mississippi.apwa.net/chapters/mississippi/images/ocean%20springs%202(1).jpg

List of Carleton University people
I left a talk page comment over there about having a bulleted list and a partially redundant table. Thanks! EricEnfermero HOWDY! 02:32, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Yvonne Brown for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Yvonne Brown is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Yvonne Brown until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- D kriegls  ( talk to me! ) 07:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Accusations
I have responded to and noted my own examples as against your accusations. Choosing to only notice one party's pent-up responses to wide-spread vandalism/minimal moderation, isn't looking at the whole picture.–––Carmaker1 (talk) 03:25, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

'''What is the meaning of this nonsense? What kind of wording is this? This is what I hate. Someone adding information that provides a false impression. Get a bloody clue. You are being intentionally obtuse and obstructive.'''

How does that make you feel? If you were a new editor to Wikipedia and wanted to add something to an article, would you ever return if someone wrote this about your edits? These are some of your edit summaries pieced together. I've looked at your edits and you really do contribute meaningfully to this project. Can I suggest that if someone isn't contributing the way you want them to, leave a gentle message on their talk page. Most people on here are very reasonable and do want to contribute. If you think the car articles need better guidelines, get involved in a project to change them. I've make thousands of edits to US city articles and have found WikiProject Cities/US Guideline extremely helpful. Is there a similar guideline for your car articles? If not, get one started so others know what's expected of their edits. In the past two days I twice deleted edits on the Ford F-Series article added by a new editor User talk:SpiritWarrior74. Please take a moment to read my note on their talk page. If you're knowledgeable about car articles, offer to help other editors. I bet they'd appreciate it. Nobody likes a bully. That's why I suggested a chill pill. Another good way to avoid the stress of other editors reverting your pearls of wisdom is to do like I do and just write articles, like Sneedsboro, North Carolina, that no one will ever read. If nothing else, take a moment to read some articles I've created, where you'll find joy, rapture, friendship, desire... and lots of love, love, love, love, love. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:10, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I was delighted with Sneedsboro, just as Weeping Mary, Texas should be a good read...JUST saying....Coal town guy (talk) 14:33, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Honest to goodness, I was poking around GNIS a few months ago looking for whacky places to write articles about and found some town--may have been in the Dakotas--with the oddest name. Something like "Kicking Dead Horse Pass"...or something like that.  Then I went looking on Wiki to see if it was there, and "Coal Town Guy" had already created it!  It was too funny!  Magnolia677 (talk) 03:22, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I suppose, Bitch Creek Cow Camp, Idaho is just too muchCoal town guy (talk) 20:18, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

New, well-meaning users, are usually not frequent vandals/trolls nor are difficult to work with, by egotistically dismantling someone's accurate contributions (842U). Any cases of no mal-intent, I have personally addressed such issues politely to the user, in being good intentions. Unchecked vandalism or purposely incorrect additions/edits are the majority of where my frustration comes from. Not only that, but a few editors (per article) removing relevant corrections to an article and repeatedly doing so, with no reprimand or administrative resistance. I always researched when and how a change came into an article, before writing my edit summaries out of pent-up annoyance, when I realize the source is/was malicious (blocked, old vandals). Sometimes it's a desperate effort to get attention and others to realize——while I need to tone it down——that trouble keeps happening under the radar and actions needs to be taken. Some of those responsible for "evil editing" have a terrible history, that suggests obvious mal-intent by their previous editing patterns. My idea has to firmly discourage those who have mal-intent from editing (undo their malicious mindsets, versus the majority who mean well or want to contribute. I know the difference and acted on that resultantly. And while you did create an excellent article with Sneedsboro, I nowadays mainly work with existing ones and would be entering a much more sensitive area for me (past experience) creating new articles again. I've dealt with my articles/major projects being deleted, so I now avoid my tireless efforts being dismantled/fully deleted over one user's sole opinion. As an engineer, I just find it very disappointing when Wikipedia's leniency towards some of their vandals, end up misleading a naive public on a subject and I have to debunk that incorrect information in person.—Carmaker1 (talk) 05:09, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've had to swallow harsher actions towards me 3x times over, even with the cruel backing of a dubious (biased) administrator and that made me avoid contributing for long periods, as I did not want any hard blemishes. It is an unfortunate reality, but many editors have terrible egos and in return me being defensive of my cited contributions, has at times sufficed. I know you intended to mean well, but you piecing together and intentionally misquoting previous statements of mine detracts from your holistic message to me. Context is very important. Your template, has good points. In terms of context, there are things I don't agree with and understand you can't research 100% of my history on Wikipedia.


 * Carmaker1, I agree that WP may be too easy on IP hoppers and vandals. But then again, if it wasn't so, maybe we ourselves would have been blocked long ago. I do some editing over at the German WP, and while the soil is definitely less fertile for vandalism over there, things are also much less enjoyable for newish editors with good intentions. Anyhow, you will catch more flies with honey &c &c, and it can also be infinitely satisfying to piss off an unpleasant adversary with an apparently soft word... I wouldn't, btw, characterize Maggo here as an adversary.  Mr.choppers &#124;   ✎  03:07, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You are right when you refer to "blocked long ago", as my early days here in 2006-07, I wouldn't say as the most "helpful" or informed editor. I've never been blocked (thankfully), but I understand your point as against the German WP. I've learned and fully understand Magnolia's viewpoint now, so I'm not seeing them as an adversary. I only have past issues with a few users that have blocked and reverted cited additions of mine, via tricky politics and one single biased admin. That can only be dealt with rationally and no longer by ranting in edit summaries.

Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men both recorded One Sweet Day in February 1995, which was also the music video itself (recording sessions). Someone incorrectly (and unnecessarily) added that the video was filmed in early 1996, amongst 1996-specific events. Despite it being already said in the same article, the single and music video were both released quite earlier in November 1995. The fact that no one noticed this falsity upon/around submission in March 2011, it went unnoticed for 3 1/2 years since then, till when I corrected it hours ago. So many third-parties (non-WP users) have mistakenly sourced that for 3.5 years (fanbases, retrospects), despite it being glaringly incorrect and a terrible anachronism since it was a major #1 hit from December 2, 1995 to March 16, 1996. I think this is what previously made me become very angry at times, because it feels like I cannot take a vacation from editing Wikipedia without someone messing up some areas I work in and me needing to monitor it 24/7. When an article is maintained/improved upon while I'm gone, it is more of a relief upon returning and not so stressful.——Carmaker1 (talk) 04:04, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * My thoughts exactly. Carmaker1 is a solid editor who has without question improved the project, and it's unfortunate that Carmaker1 chose to withdraw from editing for a time (I'd get the jitters after just a few hours).  I also personally enjoy the vandals because as hard as they try, they never seem to win.  It's a classic good vs. evil.  Carmaker1, my only concern is that one of your edit summaries will piss off the wrong person, who will complain, and then you look like the bad guy, which clearly you aren't.   My Granny used to say "like water off a ducks back".  It's good advice, but after spending an hour editing a car article, it's hard not to lose it when someone messes it up.  Anyway, thanks for listening.  Magnolia677 (talk) 08:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Well thank you and happier to see where you are coming from. I realized where my edit summaries were originating from and have decided, to directly address issues with the specific users responsible for a detrimental edit. Or will provide a rational edit summary in concern towards "bad editing" or suggest improvement. I just hope that better moderation takes place, in cases of outright incorrect additions going unnoticed for too long (sometimes years).

Sorry
Hi, I think I did something wrong with Shafiq Qaadri page. I was just trying to update some old info and received a message from you because of it. Any way, sorry. (I am new to this) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.144.15 (talk) 01:29, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Alumni lists
Hi! I reverted your reverts of my adding the alumni lists on city pages. Per WP:USCITIES, it says "For "college towns" where students reside in the "town" only during their college years, it is preferred to list those students in the "Notable alumni" section of their respective college article, then add a "See also" in the city article "pointing" at the notable college section of the specific college article or separate notable college article." This appears to be what I did. Am I missing something? Onel5969 (talk) 21:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)