User talk:Magnolia677/Archive 5

Speedy deletion of Epistemic Circularity
I have not protested the speedy deletion because I do not think I wrote it very well. Could you edit it and make it easier to read? Also, if I'm contacting the wrong person, could you tell me who to contact? Entro3.14 (talk) 20:25, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The article seems to have been redirected. If you didn't write the article very well, why would you post it to Wikipedia?  I can assure you the editors here are far less tolerant than your grade 9 English teacher.  Magnolia677 (talk) 04:04, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Mount Holly (Foote, Mississippi) burnt down today
I thought it was vandalism, but it is true--I added a newspaper article. Very sad to hear that, even though I have never been to Mississippi!Zigzig20s (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It may have been an accident--it is being investigated. I have started User:Zigzig20s/Charles Wilkins Dudley. I will create a page about his father shortly (a renowned physician). Feel free to expand the userpage if you find anything. FindAGrave is not a reliable source.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:00, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Do you think this is unreliable/unusuable? It has quite a lot of useful information, but it looks like it may be self-published. I thought I would get a second opinion. Btw, I've created his father, Benjamin Winslow Dudley, and I'm also working on User:Zigzig20s/Margaret Johnson Erwin.Zigzig20s (talk) 00:37, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I've actually used that source before. It seemed pretty reliable.  Magnolia677 (talk) 01:11, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

June 2015
I only correct incongruities between List of municipalities in Manitoba and List of municipalities in Ontario and every single municipality page, but if i can't please tell me, i leave two different datas in two different pages remain. Fabio8482 (talk) 08:24, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Consolidating datas of Canada Municipalities
I assume that the data reported in the table in every Canada province List of Municipalities page correct (source: http://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/dp-pd/hlt-fst/pd-pl/Table-Tableau.cfm?LANG=Eng&T=302&SR=1&S=51&O=A&RPP=9999&PR=59&CMA=0) and I consolidate in every single municipality data to make them identical in every page that speaks of the city. I compare every number and correct it if there is no correspondance. Fabio8482 (talk) 10:54, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your hard work. Please leave an edit summary so this may be avoided with other editors. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:59, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 22 June
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John Patton Erwin
Hello. I was wondering if you could help me. Is it possible to transfer his portrait here to Wikimedia Commons? I don't know how to do it, and I never know if we can or not...I only upload the pictures I've taken myself to be sure. But I think it would improve his page. Btw, let me know if you are interested in and able to find enough info about "Thomas Yeatman (1828-1890), lawyer, Union officer, professor, and philanthropist, who lived and married in Paris, France, after the Civil War, mention topics of national and international politics. One scholar has suggested that Thomas Yeatman attempted to contract a reconciliation movement between the Union and Confederacy in 1863. When that movement, unpopular to Lincoln and the Republicans, failed, Yeatman left the United States. At a school which he and his wife Leonis Monoury later established in Paris". He sounds very interesting, but I can't find much at all... I hope you are interested in both topics. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:24, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There may be portraits of him. Let me know what you can find. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:00, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Are you able to find a portrait of Samuel Sloan (architect)?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:21, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Chatham, Mississippi
Can you find a history of this small town anywhere? Margaret's parents owned a plantation named "Chatham" in Washington County, so it is a safe bet that it was there. But I would need a reference.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will probably create a userpage to work from. I am working on Margaret now (who freed her slaves prior to the civil war btw) and I think her father needs a page, but not easy to find much about him. He was a large landowner and slaveholder apparently. Very useful and empowering to living descendants of slaves who may feel lost if we can find out more about him I think. Also, Major Matthew Flournoy, a lawyer who served in the Indian Creek War, may be notable...Zigzig20s (talk) 23:03, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There may be some info about her father in this book, but I am not sure where to find it. Perhaps at the British Library. (I've just written to them asking if they have it or similar resources.)Zigzig20s (talk) 00:31, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * They replied and said they didn't have it.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:23, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you please transfer this to Wikimedia Commons? I have started User:Zigzig20s/Sally Ward Lawrence Hunt Armstrong Downs (a cousin of Margaret's).Zigzig20s (talk) 02:59, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

FYI
Nello M. I wanted to let you know that you forgot to notify the editor that you mentioned here Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. I went ahead and left a message on their talk page. I know that you do a lot of good work in tracking vandals and socks here at WikiP and I did not want you to get in any hot water for not notifying them. Thanks for your vigilance and cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:28, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like the editor is already blocked and that is down to your quick work. Thanks again. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:30, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Quick work. Thank you!  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:31, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You are welcome and I hope that you enjoy the rest of your week. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 22:37, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Shives, Arkansas
Can you please create Shives, Arkansas with some basic historical/geographical info and a map? I know you are gifted at retrieving arcane information about small towns. It is home to the Lakeport Plantation; I am working on User:Zigzig20s/Lycurgus Johnson (one of Margaret's cousins). Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 07:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Would you please transfer this to Wikimedia Commons?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:30, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It's right here. I know the location well.  Let me try to get at it this weekend.  Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 01:16, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Sunnyside Plantation
For your consideration: Sunnyside Plantation. It would be really nice if someone from Chicot County could take a picture of the historical marker. Not sure where it is precisely...maybe the visitor bureau would know.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:25, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Naralia, Louisiana
Can you find anything at all about Naralia, Louisiana please? According to this article, it is in the Concordia Parish, Louisiana. But I can't find anything on google for some reason. Perhaps the community was renamed?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:43, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Huber, Georgia
Huber, Georgia, potentially known after the founder of the J.M. Huber Corporation. Not sure if you can find anything.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:15, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Your school AfDs
Why not just redirect them to the districts (also "per WP:WPSCH/AG")? – czar   21:36, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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Reporting an editor
Hello. I will not mention their name but you warned an editor that you would report them for reverting contributions without summaries and not responding to your requests. I was wondering if you will be following up on this soon. That person reverts my edits even though I include citations from reliable sources and refuses to respond to me as well. If there's any way that I can help, please let me know. MrBlondNYC (talk) 20:04, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Map of the Black Warrior Basin
Would you be able to add a map of the Black Warrior Basin please? I am trying to improve the Drummond Company (and relevant pages about their owners), which needs a major clean-up, where you are more than welcome to help as well. They have a big thing going on in Tarrant, Alabama, which was nowhere in the article before I added it! Coal-mining is less sexy than plantations, but apparently it is a thing in AL. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:53, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Would you please move them? But I was hoping we could have an infobox with a "Wikipedia-type map" encircling the whole basin area. I know nothing about this except for the description on the Drummond Company website, "Located near the central portion of the Warrior Coal Basin in Alabama, Drummond’s Shoal Creek operation stretches across three counties – Jefferson, Tuscaloosa, and Walker. The mine’s main portal is in Walker County, while the preparation plant and production slope are situated in Jefferson County, approximately 45 miles from Birmingham. It has the distinction of being one of the largest underground facilities in the country." Zigzig20s (talk) 22:18, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there one particular map on one of the links that looks good? It's a bit of a process to extract and upload.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:22, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we need to find a map of Alabama only (to make it less confusing), with the basin. I am not sure if the United States Department of Energy has one on their website...Zigzig20s (talk) 22:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * These were the only ones I could find that were public domain. I'll keep looking.  Check out the pic on Cypress Grove Plantation.  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice. I wonder who owns the land now.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:33, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Btw. There is a Category:Drummond family for the aristocratic Scottish family, and I'd like to create another category for the Alabama business family, but I am not sure how to name it. What would you recommend please?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Portuguese People
"Moors are not a distinct or self-defined people.[5] Medieval and early modern Europeans variously applied the name to Arabs, Berbers, Muslim Europeans and Sub-Saharan Africans.[6]

The Moors came from Morocco and crossed the Strait of Gibraltar to reach the Iberian Peninsula. The Moors were initially of Arab and Berber descent at the time of the Umayyad conquest of Hispania in the early 8th century. Later the term covered people of mixed ancestry, and Iberian Christian converts to Islam (the Arabs called the latter Muwalladun or Muladi).[7][8]

Europeans have classified a number of associated ethnic groups as "Moors," and terms for this are found in their languages. In the modern Iberian Peninsula, "Moor" is sometimes colloquially used for any person from North Africa, but some people consider this use of the term pejorative."

From Moors page, well cited — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryantheravensfan1 (talk • contribs) 00:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Is there a point here? John from Idegon (talk) 00:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey John, how the heck are you? I even translated the Portuguese source on Google Translate.  I usually offer to assist other editors, as do you, but there's a "bit of scarlet" on his talk page.  Cheers!  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:47, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the help on the Rockbridge County High School Website, I look forward to working with you in the future! - Cody Hartley (talk) 18:17, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

It says that you are a cat lover
It says you are a cat lover and you believe all men are created equal how did you do that? Sorry I've only had my account for like 5 hours Korbin Kilbarger (talk) 11:51, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Living Green Barrie
So just a note to let you know we can't be besties anymore Not that we were before, but now it will never happen. Me-123567-Me (talk) 21:24, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

If you check the edit history of these articles, you will see that no editor on Wikipedia has added more joy, energy, heart, desire, fair play, harmony, good intent, and friendship. I've helped others experience rapture, and my edits have been modest. I'm disappointed you need more, and I won't edit a lucky boy for a while, though it's not the first time my edits have created a foul rift. Just keep in mind, no editor has added more love, love, love, love, love than me. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:25, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ahh now I see what you did. I was reaching for my barf bag for a minute. John from Idegon (talk) 23:15, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I left out Dogtown. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:30, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Cypress Grove Plantation
Can you please in-line a reference for "The plantation was located near Ashland, and Ashland's port was sometimes used by Cypress Grove Plantation."?Zigzig20s (talk) 02:52, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Got it. Thanks!  Magnolia677 (talk) 03:00, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:11, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Re:University of Warsaw
Thank you so much for the appreciation of my edit. I always wondered what to do with that section including all the red, unnecessary links. The problem is that if we remove all the red links then we will be left with only a few proper articles about rectors and furthermore it would not follow the timeline properly (We'd have a 100 year gap between the names. Either we delete the entire section or perhaps we leave it as it is, but remove the hyperlink from the names and leave them unlinked. I'm sorry if it sounds confusing. If you have any questions please ask me. Also please feel free to add citations which are vital to long and highly-viewed articles.

Oliszydlowski (TALK) 22:17, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Another sockpuppet
I just blocked as another obvious sock of Dragonrap2/Futurewiki. I don't have time to clean up after their edits right now, so I'm letting you know in case you wanted to do that. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 12:20, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Reply from ClassiconaStick
I'll tell you why I remove messages. I am ashamed of my mistakes so I remove them so I don't have to look at them. I said leave me alone because I didn't appreciate the constant notifications. i apologize I f that was line crossing. Rewind Wrestling (talk)
 * Just to note, the name of this editor is not "Rewind Wrestling", but "ClassicOnAStick". BMK (talk) 11:03, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Palos verdes
The source was unreliable but I saw on a climate data that palos verdes is indeed in mediterranean climate zone (Csa). All of the Los Angeles area is in the mediterranean climate area. It has never been semi-arid but I'll find a reliable source but the köppen map does have palos verdes in Mediterranean climate zone. Thank you Animefreak15 (talk) 06:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

NOR/no NOR
I just wrote a summary of the Environment Canada-sourced numbers so therefore your accusation of me making it up is not true. Every single word I wrote was true like Montreal having a sharper seasonal differential pattern than Toronto. Anyone who lives over in Canada knows that. I went over the data and verbally compared it. The difference is the clash between 'fundamentalists' who think every paragraph on the entire site should be sourced (and do not even check the quality and the very existance of those as long there is a note; not saying you are the latter) and 'pragmatists' that believe that there can be a few paragraphs here and there complementing the existing sources without it being original research. I would call it 'complementary information' and it depends on taste whether that is relevant or not but it does not go against NOR even though some may call is dubious. If I had said 'Toronto has a subtropical climate' or 'Winnipeg has a subarctic climate' it would have been OR because it contradicts existing sources. However I do understand there is a problem with dubious cases, but everything I wrote is supported by the data but not easy to find 'weather description touristic seasonal information' sites. May I also ask for some respect and not threats to block a very experienced and serious Wikipedian based on dubious cases where no vandalism was involved. I also wonder why you erased the links to the climate sourced pages of the Maritimes? Lastly, calm down some and assume good faith. It is fine to undo things you do not like but not to threaten blocking people acting in good faith. I just hope we can leave this behind and get on with it. After eight years on this and the Swedish Wiki I would never edit a page for vandalist purposes or with information contradicting existing sources. Have a nice day!

Lommaren (talk) 11:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Another problem that lies within comparing relevant large cities near to each other is that of course I can source temperature data from Montreal on Toronto's page, but the problem in that is 'the left hand does not know what the right is doing' and sees official sources to Montreal's climate on Toronto's page, then removes it with something like 'What the h*** has Montreal to do with this'? and that makes the relevant information disappear anyways.

Lommaren (talk) 11:30, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Yuma County, Arizona
Lots of communities without pages in Yuma County, Arizona. Is it a no man's land of sorts?Zigzig20s (talk) 11:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Stop abuse
I said that summer temperatures are very constistent and then provided two sources for Gijón PROVING that is indeed the case. DOUBLE SOURCES after that to prove that is indeed the case. From the Spanish Bureau of Meteorology. Official website (http://www.aemet.es) too. Would you please stop going after me and under which authority do you act in this manner? Seriously. In addition you did not even remove the unsourced material previously in the paragraph either. Are you joking on me? You removed the only two sources in the paragraph. Please answer this time instead of acting like a downright coward when it comes to discussion. Stop following my every move as well. Why have you blacklisted me when there are thousands of real vandals to go after, well not me I am not with them. I thought you'd send a "thanks" to me for my edit since I doubled the sources and instead you say that you'll try to ban me. Stop it! You still haven't even replied to my previous post so just talk to me so we can resolve this waste of time-argument. That you will not seriously communicate with me is a serious breach of Wikipedia guidelines. How do you even know what happened last fall and under what authority do you take it upon yourself to declare yourself the community"?

Lommaren (talk) 18:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Why can't we just forget this and move along?

Lommaren (talk) 18:34, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

American Civil War battle stubs for deletion
I also have just noted the myriad of probably non-notable stubs that have been thrown up recently and have put a similar comment to this on User talk:Clarityfiend. I have commented on three of the articles so far and have actually commented in favor of keeping Skirmish at Alderson's Distillery. Close call but I encourage you to look at my comment to see the reason. My guess is that I am likely to agree with you on most, and probably all, of the others from what I have seen of these so far. Even if a few of these articles are about notable engagements, it is not all that helpful for someone to throw up numerous, random one or two sentence stubs, with infoboxes that are not entirely accurate, in any event. Donner60 (talk) 10:32, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Belen film history
Hi. I'm the mayor of Belen, NM. You removed the film section update adding The Founder. I was on the movie set last night with the crew in Belen. I am the source. I will be undoing your edit. Please let me know if you have an concerns.

Bishop Strachan School
Hello, Magnolia 677. I'm not clear why you removed my addition of Linda Thorson to the Notable Alumni section of Bishop Strachan School, claiming it needed a reliable source. The addition did no more and no less than the names already in the entry - that is, link to the Wiki article on that person - none of which have citations. In fact, the sources of my information are Linda's official website reconfirmed in a personal message to me from her agent. I don't believe, however, that it would be appropriate to cite these. Wikipedia's policy on citations is as follows: "Wikipedia's Verifiability policy requires inline citations for any material challenged or likely to be challenged." Please remember Wikipedia's dispute resolution policy, which states that an editor shouldn't remove another editor's post without discussing with him or her first. You didn't do this. If I've misunderstood anything in your objection, please let me know, and I'll make it right if I can. Best regards (Cedric38~enwiki (talk) 08:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)}

KBOI Citation
I have added a KBOI citation to the external link regarding the urban renewal of Boise, Idaho in the summer of 1988. This is unique footage, not link spam. kencf0618 (talk) 23:22, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

AIV report
Hello, please make sure to warn editors before listing at AIV. This edit, while definitely vandalism, still needed a warning on the user's talk page. Thanks, Nakon  05:13, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Linda Thorson
Thanks for your help, Magnolia 677. The addition of her school to the Linda Thorson article is an excellent addition. In Notable Alumni focusing exclusively on Linda's ancient role as Tara King isn't the route I'd have taken, but if there's no objection from her it's fine with me. Best regards (Cedric38~enwiki (talk) 06:13, 25 July 2015 (UTC))
 * , your comments here raise an interesting question: What is your connection with Ms.Thorsen? As long as things are proper sourced, her opinion of them is irrelevant. What exactly do you think Wikipedia is? John from Idegon (talk) 06:33, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * had added this notable alumni as an "international actress". I thought mentioning her most noted acting role--as Tara King on The Avengers--would be welcomed.  I couldn't imagine "Linda" not being proud of this fabulous role?  Magnolia677 (talk) 12:55, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Electric Mills, Mississippi
Electric Mills, Mississippi is a ghost town according to WLBT. http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/29583264/slideshow-8-ghost-towns-in-mississippi --Pmsyyz (talk) 09:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Washington, Mississippi
Hi, you reverted two changes I made to the Washington, Mississippi article with the comment "Removing unsourced content". The two changes were: Best, --Macrakis (talk) 21:29, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Mentioning that it was the second capital of the Mississippi Territory, which is already mentioned in the body of the article. If you dispute that it was the second capital, presumably you should also remove it in the body. But I believe that info is in the existing source Mississippi: A Guide to the Magnolia State; of course, this should be footnoted specifically.
 * Changing the wording from "The town of Washington's namesake is George Washington." to "The town was named for George Washington." The wording of the first is clumsy. The second is synonymous, just less clumsy. Or are you disputing that it was named for G. Washington? In which case the whole sentence should go.

Rupert Blue
As per Vivek Murthy and Regina Benjamin (19th and 18th, respectively); to be consistent. Neve-selbert (talk) 23:20, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I had forgotten to leave an edit summary; I will remember any further time. Neve-selbert (talk) 23:20, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not aware of any policy; my reasoning was simply to be consistent with the other Surgeon General office holder articles. Neve-selbert (talk) 23:31, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Deleting Photo Collages/ Rude Comments
It's understandable if you disagree with how photo collages that I've worked on look, but it seems a bit of a low blow to delete them, and also leave comments like "they're over-colorized disasters" or "go experiment with Photoshop somewhere else". To be honest, the photos looked perfectly fine to me, and I certainly wasn't trying to experiment with weird colors.

There's no need to insult other Wikipedia users. I'm just trying to help improve the pages of the places I love.

For many of those photo collages, I took the photos myself and then made took the time to make what I deemed to be respectable and interesting collages. I hope you can understand it's a bit insulting to have them instantly deleted and then find rude comments as to why you deleted them.

Thanks! Ddogas (talk) 12:24, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't usually leave rude edit summaries. I found offensive that you would take several excellent photos--your own and others--ruin them in Photoshop, then add them to an article like Manhattan, which gets 75,547 views per month, without so much as a courtesy note on the talk page like "hey, look at my photo collage, what do y'all think?  Should I replace the infobox photo with my creation?"  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lake Ontario Ordnance Works
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Lake Ontario Ordnance Works you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 12:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Minturn, South Carolina
Perhaps you can improve Minturn, South Carolina. I wonder if there is a connection to the New York family...Zigzig20s (talk) 00:44, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Bethel, Connecticut
Just to explain my edit on Bethel, Connecticut. You need to get it out of your head that an anon edit is immediately suspect. Wikipedia:Assume good faith and all that. 208.81.212.222 (talk) 18:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The Captain Benjamin Hickock house was added here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bethel,_Connecticut&diff=578284809&oldid=576352947 17:02, 22 October 2013 although with a different address than it has now.
 * Then we have a WP:SPA who made one edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bethel,_Connecticut&diff=676108748&oldid=673011992
 * A revert https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bethel,_Connecticut&diff=676109471&oldid=676108748
 * Another revert to the SPA https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bethel,_Connecticut&diff=676112268&oldid=676109471 with the same reason you gave.
 * I investigated and restored, then you told me that my content was unsourced. Well, so was the original edit, and so was the one made by the SPA, and so were the previous two reverts.

Template:Infobox school district
Most school districts in Massachusetts don't have wikipedia pages, but even if they did, the pages would only be stubs. That is why even though the template says that the infobox is intended for use in only school district articles, an exception should be made for school districts that don't have their own pages. Just about every Massachusetts town has its own section on education in the town, so it is or ought to be justifiable using the infobox there. - Jajhill (User talk section Template:Infobox school district) 19:17 UTC
 * I disagree. If you want to use the template in a way other than intended, please seek consensus amongst the community. Thanks.  Magnolia677 (talk) 20:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

How would I go about doing that? I created a new section on the talk page of Template:Infobox school district, but how would I create a large enough forum to discuss it? - Jajhill (talk) 22:35 UTC 18 August 2015
 * That is exactly what I would have suggested. Others will offer opinions.  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:56, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Unjustified reverts of Delta Correctional page - please see article talk
I don't know what your problem is. I hope it's not intentional vandalism. Activist (talk) 04:46, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your efforts in cleaning up the page. I made one small change and left this at the article's Talk page: "Thanks for your work on the article, "Magnolia.: I deleted the info regarding the alleged "slight" financial loss as it comes from CCA's own advice to stockholders, which is meant to put the best possible face on the corporation's operations, rather (than) from a reliable source." Activist (talk) 00:05, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Sarratt House
Do you think Sarratt House could have an article? It was de-listed and demolished. However, it seems fairly historic (but much of the info may be hard to find). I suspect it was the childhood home of Charles Madison Sarratt.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:52, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Also found this short article, but that's it so far. Not too sure who J.L. Sarratt was.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lake Ontario Ordnance Works
The article Lake Ontario Ordnance Works you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Lake Ontario Ordnance Works for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:20, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Baruch College citation
A few days ago you rightly put a "Citation needed" link on a reference to Baruch College's Zicklin School of Business being the largest school of business in the country. If you check the college's Talk page, you'll see that I've recommended deleting the sentence altogether. (It used to say "largest collegiate school of business".)

I'd welcome your attention to that and the other changes I've suggested under the WP:COI guidelines.

Lex 1503 (talk) 20:20, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lake Ontario Ordnance Works
The article Lake Ontario Ordnance Works you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lake Ontario Ordnance Works for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:21, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

WP:OWN
Trying to WP:OWN articles does not make Wikipedia a happy place. This is a cooperative enterprise. Please allow others to edit articles you are interested in. We can all contribute to the encyclopedia. Hike The Monicas (talk) 22:44, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Correcting the errors you added to Santa Monica Mountains is not ownership. Please respond on the talk page there.  Magnolia677 (talk) 22:46, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Correcting mistakes is fine. Insisting that photos be on the right is a preference.  Wiki markup language allows for placement of photos on the left, right, and center.  Preference is not policy.  Removing the work of others is not fine either.  Hike The Monicas (talk) 23:11, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Your last edit on Lake County, Michigan
Regarding: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lake_County,_Michigan&oldid=678371807

Please can you tell me on what basis my edit is "unnecessary"? Why you should keep a falseness on this Wikipedia article? In this particular case, the fact that this statistical element is absolutely not sourced from the Huffington Post and that their very same article does not give any reference of this particular statement except for a link of the original article, posted by me but removed by you with a laconic "unnecessary". You didn't even thought to read the two articles and verify my edit, right? - ElSaxo (talk) 02:02, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You are correct. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 02:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for looking over the "Yankee" edits. It helps to know that it's not just my imagination. 32.218.43.89 (talk) 22:26, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Category additions
Thank you for the comments regarding Category additions. The information originated from the Wiki page that lists the members. If something is incorrect, perhaps take a look at that Wiki page. Please explain the word 'unsorced' as I look in a dictionary and this word is not listed. Did you mean 'unsourced'? The additions you mention have been removed. Thank you again for your efforts.InfoDataMonger (talk) 23:58, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Please let me know, or direct me to the 'tool' or 'bot' you are using. This seems like a good item to have. InfoDataMonger (talk) 00:18, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what tool you are talking about. You did not answer the question I asked on your talk page.  While the edits in question are not vandalism, they are disruptive and will either need to be removed or sourced.  Again, do you plan to remove them?  Thank you.  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge infobox image
The anonymous user tried to implement a request I made of the person who substituted the infobox image. This image is too large, takes too long to load. I asked for them to shrink it, and was clearly not understood. Should we just revert to the previous image? I don't dare shrink the original image, as it's used in a few other places. - Denimadept (talk) 22:26, 4 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I remember now. When I upload an image, it is no more than 800px on a side.  Full rez is mine and I will not offer it for free use.  Policy is very nice, if it's true, but ownership is more important.  If others are to use my images, it'll be on my terms and my terms alone.  Policy can go hang. - Denimadept (talk) 23:23, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Mustang Ranch
Read the entire article if you want to see "crude." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.129.131.60 (talk) 03:03, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

ANI notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Macon, Georgia. Thank you. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:44, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Thomas R. Grover Middle School
Hi Magnolia677 thank you for pointing that out. I have now added the proper citation. I attended the middle school so I have a great knowledge of it's programs please let me know if you would like my help in improving the article. I hope you have a wonderful day. --Sanjev Rajaram (talk) 17:31, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes I reviewed the Middle School Program of Studies it stated that the programs are tailored to the student's individual needs, I suppose that is rather vague. I suppose I will have to obtain an official report from the school district. If I do obtain such documentation where shall I upload it in order to provide the source material? --Sanjev Rajaram (talk) 19:20, 7 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Why bother? You added the statement: "assistant teachers are placed in mainstream classes that have special ed students and they may separate special ed students from the rest of the class during review session to better accommodate their needs".  Why add this to an encyclopedia?  How is this noteworthy?  Every school in North American does this.  It would be like adding: "the school conducts 4 fire drills per year, and during each, the school must be evacuated".  Why go through all the trouble?  Magnolia677 (talk) 19:29, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Nominated for deletion. John from Idegon (talk) 22:53, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I understand. If that statement is already a given then placing it the article serves no purpose. Thank you for pointing that out. If you require any other help improving the article please let me know. Thank you and have a pleasant day. --Sanjev Rajaram (talk) 17:15, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * , the article has been nominated for deletion. Middle schools do not get articles on Wikipedia unless there is something very exceptional about them.  That is usually something like being listed on the NRHP. John from Idegon (talk) 00:39, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Ok, No problem. --Sanjev Rajaram (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Unfinished review of Civil War stubs; new low quality edits
@User talk:Magnolia677; @User talk:Clarityfiend

It seems I may have discouraged you from following up on the remaining mostly non-notable American Civil War battle stubs created by User:Eight-Nation-Alliance fan101 when I added some text to three of the articles that I thought might have some notability. I also added a few small details such as dates to a few of the other articles. I made the latter additions mostly for identification purposes and as sort of a marker that there seemed to be nothing more to add to a non-notable occurrence. Unfortunately, I did not finish this review or communicate further with you promptly. I did not want to preempt or hinder an important task but thought I could determine the few articles that could be kept and identify and have the research done for the others to be nominated for deletion.

It was my intention to do a complete review of these articles and tell you about the few I had upgraded and the remaining ones which appeared to be good candidates for deletion. I then backtracked and was going to add a brief message to the talk pages such as might support an AfD. I thought that the user had stopped throwing up these articles and there was no rush to complete this. I then let it slip a little too long.

The user is back causing some havoc in Civil War articles. He has created a few new articles with translations about minor Union Army brevet generals translated from the French Wikipedia. Why these articles are on that Wikipedia and not on the English Wikipedia would be anyone's guess, I suppose. It may be that they were copied from a book seriatim and that editors here have yet to find them important enough to add. I have made a few corrections but there is much to do to make these articles accurate and of some quality. Some of his recent work is just filling in categories or minor details but even there I already have found a few mistakes.

It would be difficult to argue that the officers that are the subject of the recently added articles are not notable but the translated articles being used have incorrectly formatted infoboxes, some inaccurate details and no real sources. At least one is not even in encyclopedic language and is mostly worded in the wrong tense. This could get out of hand because there were something like 1,700 brevet Union generals and I think the great majority of them (especially those who received confirmation of the brevets after the war was over) do not have articles on the English Wikipedia. Perhaps most of them served honorably and notably as colonels, and a few below that grade, and might merit articles, but not like the ones being thrown up now.

Also, the March 13, 1865 "omnibus" date, as you probably know, is a back date in almost every case and is inaccurate without further information about nomination and confirmation dates. Appointment dates could differ but they are hard to find in most cases. Eicher, Civil War High Commands, gives the other dates, but confuses the issue by including them only in the lists, not in the stubs about each person.

It is a shame to have to follow this user (as I suspect, a rather young person) around to correct mistakes and fill in details on articles of lesser importance in order to make Wikipedia's Civil War coverage not look bad. There are other articles of more importance to be upgraded or even created. He seems to intend to continue his mostly unproductive article creation and editing spree. I feel that my delay in finishing what I intended to do and communicating with you may have resulted in him gaining some confidence because much of his work was not deleted - when much of it should have been. Regardless, any remaining notable articles should be identified and the non-notable ones put up for deletion.

As I take a look at the remainder of the articles that he has can created and identify them as non-notable and without coverage that would show them as of any importance, would you be willing to nominate them for deletion, as I think was your original intention? I could do that but I don't want to pre-empt you. I also think I might make a contribution by providing supporting facts and analysis. The bottom line is that I will be guided by your preferences or ideas in how to approach this since I seem to have stopped the train, so to speak, and do not wish to do anything that may be offensive or which you think may be improper in some way. (I think that cleaning up the mess and improving the encyclopedia is proper, of course. I just want to not go about it in the wrong way or offend anyone, including our presumably young friend who could no doubt become a productive editor at some point.)

I am not sure what to do about this user in the final analysis if he persists. He is not a vandal and is in good faith. He does not know what is important and notable and what does not belong or only would belong with more information and citations. He does not seem to want to do (or maybe is not really able to do) research to fill out articles. He even noted at first that he was depending on others to fill out the articles. Very few people would be willing to do that. I am not sure how such a user could be approached directly or whether anyone more authoritative or more able could intervene.

Even though I feel some responsibility to keep up or build the quality of the articles on this topic, I don't want to have to give priority to cleaning up after someone and spend a lot of time doing it because of the volume. I have other articles or additions to articles in the works or planned and some other things I would rather work on first. In any event, though, I think that the existing articles and edits need to be followed up, deleted, changed or cleaned up and would appreciate your thoughts on my proposed plan and your preference or guidance on the handling of this.

I do need to work on this quickly because I will be offline almost every day for the last two weeks of September into the first weekend of October so if I am going to contribute to any nominations, I will need to do it by September 18 or it will almost certainly be after October 3 before I again will have more regular time for Wikipedia. I am sure it would not be a huge problem in the scheme of thinks to defer this for a short additional time but under the circumstances it seems better not to wait another month to make some progress on it. I am sorry this message got a little long but I thought I needed to set out some detail. Donner60 (talk) 06:39, 8 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Although I left the same note for both you and Clarityfiend because of your previous interest in this and to let you know about the current developments, the question about nominating articles was really for you. I will let you know about my research on the articles as I complete them, but not wait to tell you about it all at once. I wish I had made a few notes on my first review of most of them but I had not thought that would be necessary, and perhaps it would not have been had I finished it all promptly. Donner60 (talk) 22:44, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I have put my research notes for the article Skirmish at Threkeld's Ferry on the talk page of that article. Although I conclude that it is of questionable notability, I think there is little there to support keeping the article and I would support deletion. The little I added to Action at Accotink is all I could find on it except that in fact Mosby himself almost certainly was not there. Even if he had been, there are almost no details available about this and it appears to be a very minor incident with no notability and I would support deletion. I will put a few comments to this effect on the talk page as soon as I find again the source that shows Mosby was elsewhere. Donner60 (talk) 05:23, 11 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I am sorry for dragging this out and confusing the matter. A problem that I have seen with these articles is that the writer has taken the names of small battles, skirmishes and engagements from a list at random and added stubs to Wikipedia about them with almost no content where there is no article. Occasionally, he hits on one that appears to be notable if expanded, presumably more by chance than anything else. As written, they all deserve to be deleted but I have found a few that I thought were notable enough, and not otherwise covered, that expansion appeared preferable to deletion. So I have done that since I have an interest in the general subject.


 * I have not been able to review every one of them thoroughly yet and am about to have about 16 days mostly offline starting Saturday. I know this is not your main area of interest (about which see a brief new section below) and would understand if you have put this behind for any number of reasons. I will check back with you as I go through the list. I am trying to go from the earliest to the most recent additions, though I have diverged once or twice. There is almost no information that could be added to Skirmish at Aenon Church to make it notable. This and the two mentioned above may be about all I can confirm this week and would be ready to list. In any event, I hope to get through the entire group as we get into October. Donner60 (talk) 04:39, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Walter Place (Holly Springs, Mississippi)
Hello. In case you can help, see this. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I apologize.
You're right, I'll undo some of my own edits. ExecutiveWashington (talk) 02:19, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

WAR! from Zacho Gilman
You got me. Basically, I tried to add a cited, amd useful list, and oth er stuff, while "RedPenOFDoom" is constantly eraseing things and leaving crazy notes like "not cited" or "not nessacry in an article. I would call it WikiWar, but maybe I'll try to calm things down. 😃 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.45.128.124 (talk) 14:35, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Small and abandoned towns
I find this an interesting topic and am glad you and at least a few others are contributing articles about them to Wikipedia. Forty-one years ago to the month my wife and I visited some of the small towns and ghost towns in Colorado and did the same in Nevada a few years later. More recently, I have traveled a few times through small southern West Virginia coal towns and unincorporated places. I made my own very small contribution to the category by creating the article Fetterman, West Virginia, to which User:Coal town guy and a few others have made additions. Fetterman is an unincorporated community which is considered a populated location within the incorporated place of Grafton. It was the site of the killing of the first Union soldier by a Confederate soldier during the Civil War, as far as some historians can say, at least. Thanks for these articles and your other contributions. Donner60 (talk) 04:39, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Chav
That image has been on that article for years, and provides a good illustration of the subject, per WP:MOS. If you want to go to WP:3RR over this, then keep it up, but I don't think your "I don't like it" "stupid image" edit summary is going to help you very much. Find another free image or get consensus to remove it before you revert. μηδείς (talk) 02:31, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I have responded at Talk:Chav. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:06, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Deep South: Four Seasons on Back Roads
You may really enjoy this book. I added a quotation about Anguilla, Mississippi.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It sounds like Midnight, Mississippi.  The Delta is so poor, but some of the nicest people.  A bit like West Virginia.  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:15, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Your North Bay Revision
Hello. I have reinserted the text I added to the City of North Bay, Ontario,'s Wiki page, yesterday. I appreciate why you decided to delete the text. However the information about the 228th Battalion NHA hockey team was obtained during research this summer into Canadian Army units from North Bay that fought in the First World War, for the city's museum. When we--the group gathering information for the museum--learned of the team, I contacted the Hockey Hall of Fame, in Toronto--the national repository for documents, artifacts and photographs about hockey in North America--who supplied us with material about the team. That the 228th Battalion had a team in the National Hockey Association, forerunner of the National Hockey League, is an extraordinary event in the city's history. Imagine, say, if a United States Army battalion from Peoria or Manassas had supplied a winning team to baseball's National League, how significant that would be in the community's history.

That said, I shall edit the reference to make its source clearer, that this wasn't an arbitrary insertion of text.

22WHERO (talk) 15:08, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Matthew Santoro revert
You reverted my edit per WP:LINKNO. Is it not okay to use his channel as an external link? I thought it would be okay since other YouTubers have one or more of their channel as an external link. And the links are still their, I just changed one to it's current name. That also undid my changes to his birthplace, source is here at 5:25, when I started this article I assumed he's always lived there since some sources refer to him as "St. Catharines native". Rainbow unicorn (talk) 23:05, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * YouTube is to be avoided as a source, likely for copyright reasons. I actually watched the first 5 minutes of the video and still didn't hear him refer to Welland as his birthplace.  Yet yesterday I added a reliable source which stated he was from St. Catherines.  If you can find a reliable source that would be great.  Magnolia677 (talk) 23:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's his own channel, verified, isn't that acceptable for this type of information? You were so close too, he says it at 5:25 incase you missed it, while he doesn't say exactly that he was born in Welland, he also says that he didn't grow up in St. Catharines, what better source is there? Rainbow unicorn (talk) 23:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * If he didn't say he was born in Welland, then it may be best to stop adding that he was. Go on Google and poke around.  You may find a source, as I did yesterday. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I mean exactly, here's what he says: "For those of you that don't know by the way, I'm not in St. Catharines. I belive online it says I grew up in St. Catharines, I didn't, I grew up in a place called Welland, Ontario. I moved to St. Catharines with my ex-girlfreind and then I moved to Toronto", please watch that part of the video. And I don't think any reliable source says exactly that he was born in St. Catharines, all I see in the source you added is "St. Catharines, Ont. native", I thought that meant he was born in St. Catharines too, I started and wrote most of this article, I originally put that as his birthplace in the infobox, just trying to fix my mistake. Rainbow unicorn (talk) 00:04, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * You make a good point. It's straight from the horses mouth, as they say.  Why not leave a note on the talk page of the article and get some input from other editors?  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:22, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok Rainbow unicorn (talk) 01:31, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

But you still can't use YouTube as a source. John from Idegon (talk) 03:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The deed has been done...see Matthew Santoro. I'm not a fan of YouTube references because I believe they don't play nice with Wikipedia copyrights.  Magnolia677 (talk) 03:50, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Jackson State in Jackson, MS
The top three largest HBCUs are all out of state schools, however JSU is fastly approaching being the largest in the nation. The next largest HBCU in Mississippi is Alcorn St. with circa 3,500. I left the source as requested.Broadmoor (talk) 00:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Bellevue, Mississippi
Please change your Delete to a Comment. The nominator doesn't get a !vote. VMS Mosaic (talk) 00:46, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Lancaster, California
The statement itself that was added included the reference by linking the page via the words "state prison" to the content that verified the source.

Contrary to what you may understand to be true, not every individual statement in each Wikipedia page needs a specific reference, because the thing would become way too cluttered with little subscript numbers that it would detract from the meaningful content. Please consult the Wikipedia page editing rules.

Sometimes a statement provides clear implication based on common knowledge, while others incorporate by reference to other pages in Wikipedia that contain the designated information, as was the case with my edit.

The California State Prison, Los Angeles County page contains the reliable source information you refer to not being there. A person seeking that information would likely have clicked on the hyperlink to that page (hence the reason Wikipedia was originally formatted this way to allow it in the first place). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.64.58.164 (talk) 13:55, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Your userpage
Oversight has been requested and the matter is at ANI. John from Idegon (talk) 02:16, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Cuyahoga Falls, OH
I have read the page you referenced, and I offered another page that, I feel, validates my edits. Yu can read that page here Manual of Style/Trivia sections, see specificially, the sections marked "Guidance" and "What this guideline is not." I do not wish to engage in an edit war, I am sincerely trying to make this a good edit. I believe that this information is important and interesting, particularly to people like myself, who are from Cuyahoga Falls and call it home. I'm sorry that you have decided that this is unimportant information, but at this point, I have done my homework, and I wonder if you could leave it up long enough for perhaps some other people to decide whether or not they agree. I believe that edit wars and the like are unproductive nonsense, but I also believe that continually deleting something without attempting to help fix it, is also unproductive nonsense.

Manchester, New Hampshire
First of all, I did not remove the photos, I simply moved them into the gallery. The reason I moved the one of Elm Street in 1905 is because the formatting is screwed up somehow; it is on top of the header for the Geography section. Second, I did not add any photos to the page, and certainly not with "a photo of a parking lot taken with a $5 cell phone camera." I do not know what your problem it is, maybe we can talk this out like a couple of civilized adults. Pretzel4 (talk) 19:57, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Sexual Reassignment Therapy
Hi, I just saw your revert of my edit here claiming that it's a 50 year old quote. That is not the case: it's from the SoC Version 7, the same version as the quote directly above it that I was expanding on. This version was published in 2012. The studies it cites are old, but clearly the organisation still considers them definitive.

I actually just typed out a comment questioning another of your edits, here. I'll keep this separate as these are two separate issues. — Flower f5a9b8 03:33, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * No matter how recent the source was, the quote you added is 50 years old. My grandpappy was buying his new Oldsmobile when your quote was written, and you want to add it to a current article about sex reassignment surgery?  Get real. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for responding, I'm sure we can come to an understanding without this being adversarial. You can download WPATH's Standards of Care Version 7 if you want to verify the source of the quote for yourself. It - like the passage directly above it - comes from that version of the SoC, which had not been published prior to 2012. I don't understand what you mean when you say that the source is recent, but the quote isn't. I am quoting directly from the SoC, it is not a passage that the SoC has quoted (although I'm unsure how that would undermine it anyway). It is quite common for scientists to refer to older studies when writing about a topic, in cases where those studies were important and no studies since then have called their findings into question.


 * All I'm interested in is improving the article, and the article states very early on that "Treatment of gender dysphoria does not involve attempting to correct the patient's gender identity, but to help the patient adapt." I think many people will wonder why that is, why the section on psychological treatment does not discuss this. The quote I added explains why this is not viewed as a treatment option. If you think that this is not relevant information for the article that people would not be interested to know, then please let me know why. I can certainly see that I could be wrong along those lines and would be open to being convinced of it. However I do not think that the quote can be dismissed on the basis of its source, any more than the one directly above it which I was adding to. — Flower f5a9b8 18:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I have no expertise on this subject, and no opinion about the scientific merit of the information you added. I'm concerned about the encyclopedic value of adding a review of 50 year-old literature.  Magnolia677 (talk) 02:43, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Just a thought, but perhaps you should both read WP:MEDRS. John from Idegon (talk) 04:02, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * "medical guidelines and position statements from... international expert bodies" is an exact description of the SoC. Later on it calls medical guidelines or institutional position papers "ideal sources". On the topic of older research it notes "an older primary source that is seminal, replicated, and often-cited may be mentioned in the main text in a context established by reviews", which seems to back up what I've been saying (Reimer certainly fits that description). Not really surprising - if the 50 year-old literature is good enough for WPATH to base their position on, why on earth would it not be good enough for us? Even if it wasn't, surely we could just remove the citations and quote their conclusions on the basis that they are an international expert body? — Flower f5a9b8 20:21, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * And you both need to take this to the article talk page. Wide review of editing is the most important tool in the proper interpretation of medical sources. I have no idea which of you is right and very little interest in finding out.  Just trying to make sure we present the best information possible.  Let some people who do know what they are talking about in on the discussion.  Feel free to copy this discussion over to the article talk page. John from Idegon (talk) 20:57, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help, I'm fairly new to wiki editing (or at least I still feel constantly out of my depth) and I really appreciate getting pointers. I started this conversation here rather than on the talk page because I was already discussing an edit this user made there (I linked to it above) and I expected this issue to be a simple clarification. I really don't see how the source could be an issue when it's already used throughout the article on the exact same topic, but I'm very happy to leave the discussion to other people. I don't come to wikipedia to get my head bitten off. — Flower f5a9b8 00:24, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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Riverside County - Chocolate Mayordomo
Hi. You restored the Mayordomo page link after changed it to Majordomo: When I changed the link from Mayordomo to Majordomo I considered removing the link entirely, as there is no English Wikipedia page for the Spanish term mayordomo. I linked instead to the English equivalent, Majordomo, as that page defines the term and explains the etymology from the Spanish word mayordomo. I used the same syntax as this page: Rancho_Temescal_(Serrano), which contains similar text. What makes a link to a Mexican table chocolate more appropriate? Addalittle (talk) 08:20, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It still links to Majordomo (not the chocolate). I'm confused.  Magnolia677 (talk) 00:07, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Miami-Dade County, Florida
Hello, we work in the Department of Communications for Miami-Dade County. There is information on Miami-Dade County, Florida that is out of date and needs to be updated. Our recent submissions were reverted and we would like to discuss your edits in more detail. It is imperative that the information is updated as soon as possible. We look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Spcc111 (talk) 16:21, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I left a very detailed message on your talk page after deleting your edit. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:11, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

WP/ANI
What just happened over at WP:ANI - was that the quickest close ever? And it was done by a non-admin? Hmmm...I am really not sure about these non-admin closures. Your concern certainly deserved more time for others to become involved and offer content. DrChrissy (talk) 00:05, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * My head is spinning too. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:21, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I am well aware of the closing editor's approach to WP. For what it's worth, I also thought the comment you were concerned about was offensive to non-admin editors. DrChrissy (talk) 00:27, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Feel free to add it back. I found it very offensive.  I feel strongly about bullies and those who feel they are superior.  There are many great admin on here.  One may still see the edit and feel as offended as we are.  Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:32, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Um, this isn't par for the course (the consistently offending admin; his predictable supporters)?! IHTS (talk) 15:04, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Magnolia677: There were two points to the close: (1) The comment made was not "disgraceful and demeaning" (despite DrChrissy's assurance that it was "offensvie"); it was barely even uncivil, so the purpose of your report was moot. Keeping it open for other editors to tell you the same thing was unnecessary, and the fact that no one has re-opened it is an indication of that. (2) You go to AN/I much too quickly and too often, and you need to stop doing that. Not everything requires an AN/I report.As for : for someone who is under two topic bans, one just applied by ArbCom very recently, gratuitously stirring the pot, as this comment was, is not a very good idea. Your conduct has been examined and found wanting, both by the community and by the Arbitration Committee, the community's highest level of jurisprudence. It seems to me that now is the time to redouble your efforts to contribute productively to the encyclopedia without causing disruption, and not the time to be attempting to rile up other editors. Being blocked for "Exhausting the patience of the community", is a thing, and I believe you should keep that in mind. BMK (talk) 15:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I have not caused any disruption whatsoever. I made a statement of support for an editor, on their Talk page, who I felt had not been listened to.  I have not encouraged them to take further action, and I have not posted to any noticeboard about this.  I believe you are getting very close to bullying here. DrChrissy (talk) 15:28, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Of course you do. BMK (talk) 16:50, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * User:DrChrissys two topic bans can't compare to five blocks in the past year alone, but User:Beyond My Kens other behavior is not my concern. What concerns me is that his non-admin closure occured less than 30 minutes after my issue was posted to ANI.  I stand firm on the point I expressed there though: it is disgraceful and demeaning for an administrator to refer to the rank-and-file volunteers of Wikipedia as "plebeans".  Others may find that comment as hurtful as I did and take steps to reverse BMK's closure; that would be their decision.  But doing nothing is doing something, and I made my point. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:10, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Magnolia, for information, you might not be aware that a senior British politician was sacked for (alledgedly) using the word "plebs" towards police. WP have our own article on the incident (Plebgate) in which we state " "plebs" [is] (a pejorative word signifying someone of low social class)".  I am not encouraging you to take action on this at the moment, but I thought you might like to see how offensive this is considered in the UK. DrChrissy (talk) 12:25, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * First, while user talk pages are not private here, users are given a much broader leeway in using them than in the other WP spaces, and that includes chatting with other users. Just as in the real-world, overhearing somebody's else private discussion and running to announce it to the most public place is rightfully considered bad manners. Even if you took offense, you haven't even attempted to discuss it with the persons involved. The ANI is not a board to air all your grievances. Thus, I agree with the speedy close. And I'm not an admin or an admin-wannabe. Second, had you perused for example wikt:plebeian, it would only reveal the meaning "of or pertaining to the common people;" the demeaning one is not even listed there. Not being a native speaker of BrEn, I haven't even been aware of the slang, derogatory meaning mentioned in the Urban Dictionary and in Plebs. And, assuming good faith by Kudpung, and reading the context, that meaning was not even attended. Third, User:DrChrissy, regardless of your history, I find your involvement on this page in quite bad taste. "Stirring the pot" is about the mildest description that fits. In sum, the best way not to get offended is to not actively seek for a reason, as you apparently did in this case. Should you encounter something that offends you, you first option should be to just shrug and move on, and your second to politely raise the issue with the people involved. Running to ANI, just as running to police in real life, should be reserved just for egregious demeanor. No such user (talk) 14:21, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Please would you be kind as to explain how you found this Talk page? DrChrissy (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * By lurking on WP:ANI and clicking on Magnolia's talk page link, out of sheer curiosity what made her (?) so upset. I suppose I could ask you the same, since you don't seem to have posted here recently (no, I'm not really asking). No such user (talk) 15:29, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * For sake of completeness, I now noticed that you did discuss it with Kudpung so I'm striking that part of my comment; I don't think it significantly affects the rest. I won't bother you anymore. No such user (talk) 15:35, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I am totally confused - I don't think I have ever contacted Kudpung about anything. DrChrissy (talk) 15:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * "You" = Magnolia677. (I made two successive comments.) This is her talk page, isn't it? No such user (talk) 15:52, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh I see now. You threaded directly under my posting so this usually means "you"=the person you are replying to, i.e. me. DrChrissy (talk) 16:12, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Category:Cities in Salt Lake County, Utah
Many cities were removed because those cities have their own category as a subcategory of Cities in Salt Lake County, Utah. Those cities that do not yet have their own category, were left in the parent category.

An Errant Knight (talk) 00:21, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Minnie J. Grinstead
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Blanked and Speeded
You can go ahead with Afd if you need. You can't blank and request speed an article.

Always :) (talk) 13:36, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You are not correct. When an article is nominated for speedy deletion under WP:G10, a bot automatically blanks the article as a courtesy.  The article appears to exist only to describe a lawsuit against another company.  Magnolia677 (talk) 13:51, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Category:People from Valatie, New York
It is fixed, but keep in mind categories with less than five articles in them are often deleted as too small. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)