User talk:Mahagaja/Archive 53

Your name
I thought your account was after a renaissance artist or someone like that. However, upon hearing it in University Challenge I tried to research this person, but with no luck. Could you assist at all? - Jarry1250 [Humorous? Discuss.] 20:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You heard my account name on University Challenge? +Angr 20:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I thought I had. Presumably you made it up, or otherwise based it on some detail of your personal life, but I heard what I thought was "Angr" (in a French style) on UC, and I put two and two together to make five. Nevermind. - Jarry1250 [Humorous? Discuss.] 20:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's based on my real name, that's all. Not even anything to do with being angry. +Angr 20:24, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * It's me. Got it: I think your username sounds like the surname of Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres. 92.9.150.105 (talk) 21:16, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

With all due respect...
"... you don't know ****". Yeah, I noticed that upon reading it for the first time, and found it amusing, because we have the exact same phrase in Norwegian, except that there's a definite article in there. Andresen was obviously thinking in Norwegian when he wrote it :) decltype (talk) 21:24, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * But in English, he used the indefinite article. +Angr 21:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, I meant indefinite, of course. decltype (talk) 21:37, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Pissing contest
Hi, you might not have noticed, but you closed this AfD before it had run for seven days. Per WP:DP, "the discussion lasts at least seven full days". Could you please reopen it with a note about the extra time it needs to run due to the intermittent closure? Thanks,  Sandstein   23:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Even if that hadn't been the case, there was clearly no consensus to keep; and the article is completely at odds with the relevant policy. I will not put up with this kind of administrative abuse under any circumstances.- Wolfkeeper  23:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I've created a thread on WP:ANI; you have completely overstepped your authority, and I'm therefore requesting that you be desysopped; you clearly cannot be trusted.- Wolfkeeper  23:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yo. I re-opened this AfD for the remainder of the time period, as it couldn't be closed via speedy keep or CSD criteria. You are hereby reminded that AfDs that are not obvious closes should be left to run the full seven days. 'Nuff said. Tan   &#124;   39  23:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * You're also very much reminded that this is not a vote.- Wolfkeeper  23:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I closed it all of ten hours early, i.e. it had run for 94% of its time. And AFDs have to achieve a consensus to delete, not a consensus to keep. I don't mind changing the name of the result from "Keep" to "No consensus to delete", but the end effect is the same. +Angr 07:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * A no consensus would have been preferable, and not entirely unreasonable. But seven days is the minimum, it certainly hadn't snowballed. And you don't seem to have followed the Deletion_guidelines_for_administrators.- Wolfkeeper  07:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I was kinda hoping for a slightly wiser decision to be honest, it didn't have to be a delete necessarily, but indicating that you were tending towards a particular position you could take might be preferable, while leaving the review open for further discussion for example; the article that is being reviewed is a real mess from a policy standpoint.- Wolfkeeper  07:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks from Jensen25
Hello Angr,

Thanks for the help. I appreciate the heads up. As you can tell I'm very new to Wikipedia and (I think) I'm just getting the hang of things. Jensen25 (talk) 20:57, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem! We were all newbies once! +Angr 21:15, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Evangelical Church in Germany
Hi, I have requested a rename of Category:Evangelical Church in Germany dioceses; see the discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2009 November 15. Thanks! +Angr 17:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: I see some merit in this proposal, but how can we instead rename this to reflect it is not a category for individual church buildings or congregations? User talk:CarlaudeUser talk:Carlaude 17:52, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'm open to suggestions. Let's discuss it at the CFD, though. +Angr 18:40, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Suresh Fageria
An article that you have been involved in editing, Suresh Fageria, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Vejvančický (talk) 07:41, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your recommendations, Angr. I nominate articles for CSD only when I'm absolutely sure that they are hopeless. The article deals with living person and contains pretty bold - unreferenced - claims. Usually I'm trying to add reliable sources by myself, but I can't find any sources confirming the notability of this subject. CSD and AfD nomination is just a logical step, I didn't mean to be "biting" :) Thanks for your cooperation. --Vejvančický (talk) 08:11, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * On second thought, you are right, this was really "speedy". Thank you for reminding me that. --Vejvančický (talk) 10:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Mucchi (Italian surname)
A tardy thanks for your astute and helpful input! Finally got around to posting my tentative conclusions, with the dismayed realization that the discussion was already archived. Never thought I'd get this backlogged in keeping up the discourse, especially when it was my query to start with! -- with apologies and blushes, Deborahjay (talk) 13:38, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Prook
Thanks for spotting my incomplete AfD nomination, no idea why it was such a fail, but it's fixed now. An pablo hablo. 15:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan
Hello Angr, I very sorry to say but your move of deleting the article Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan is not appreciated... I know it was a copyright problem but adequate time was not provided for responding. Secondly, the acticle was in process of completion, where such material can be removed/replaced. Third, the acticle dealt with the structure of organisation, which is stationary and cannot be changed!! Lastly, there was still a lot of things to be added (as the organisation is a autonomous government org, managing more than 900 schools and more than a million students, and therefore having a huge structure!!)

It is requested that the deletion be withdrawn or premition to create acticle on the said subject be granted. If, after completion of the article, it is felt that it is still a copyright violation, then the article can be deleted, without warning!!

(Mohitsaini29 (talk) 09:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC))


 * Copyvios have to be deleted immediately. The lemma isn't protected; there's nothing stopping you from starting the article over again from scratch in a non-copyvio version. But what was there was entirely a copyvio and had to be deleted. +Angr 09:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Wiktionary link
Thank you for the change in the wikicode, I tried but got my fr and wikt codes the upside down. Regards -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 21:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
 * You can put the language code first too, but then you have to put a colon before it:  gives fr:wikt:confrère. +Angr 21:26, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Removal of PROD from Pop's Nightclub & Concert Venue
Hello Angr, this is an automated message from SDPatrolBot to inform you the PROD template you added to Pop's Nightclub & Concert Venue has been removed. It was removed by Bushido Hacks with the following edit summary ' Give this article some time. What is with the coord missing template? '. Please consider discussing your concerns with Bushido Hacks before pursuing deletion further yourself. If you still think the article should be deleted after communicating with the 'dePRODer,' you may want to send the article to AfD for community discussion. Thank you, SDPatrolBot (talk) 19:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC) (Learn how to opt out of these messages) 19:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Ring, County Waterford
Hi Angr. Your recent edits to Ring, County Waterford was brought to my attention by Sarah777. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the lengthy, ongoing saga over the Ireland naming dispute (Requests for arbitration/Ireland article names and WikiProject Ireland Collaboration), but after a couple of years it appears to have settled into an uneasy compromise whereby the cogent articles remain named Republic of Ireland but are pipe linked to Ireland when appropriate. I can see arguments for and against pipe linking, I just wanted to make you aware that there is some serious history here. It might be worth discussing the issue at the collaboration page, if you think there are strong reasons it should not be pipelinked in this particular instance. Rockpock e  t  06:02, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I am well aware of the Ireland naming dispute, and am well aware of Sarah777's long history of edit-warring and POV-pushing on this issue. In particular, I see no reason that the "See also" section of Ring, County Waterford, should pretend that it's linking to a list of towns and villages in Ireland when in fact it is linking only to a list of towns and villages in the Republic. It's actually very misleading to the reader to do so. +Angr 06:35, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * So, you are saying "the Republic" isn't in Ireland? Sarah777 (talk) 21:02, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I appreciate that potential for confusion. Nonetheless, if it is under dispute, its probably worth discussing at that venue, rather than get drawn into an edit war over it. Rockpock  e  t  07:10, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Archive search box
Here is an archive search box for your talk page. You can modify it and place it according to your preferences.
 * -- Wavelength (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Dictionary or not dictionary?
Regarding edits like this and this and discussions like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics, I'd like to propose clarifying WP:NOTDICDEF on the difference between a dictionary article and an encyclopedic article about a word (or morpheme). And maybe we should have something about first transwikiing to Wiktionary and then deleting content. Would you be willing to participate? Or has this discussion been lead before? (On a general basis, I mean. Starting the same thing about every article over again is beginning to get on my nerves.) Cheers --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks from Munci
Thanks for having added the Phonology section to Lao language. I always thought it was a shame that a language which is spoken by millions of people and an official language of a country didn't even have a phoneme inventory on its wikipedia page. Munci (talk) 23:10, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. I just wish I had found more sources for it than a 4-page PDF. +Angr 07:25, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

AWB and Words to avoid
There is a discussion at the Village Pump regarding using AWB to semi-automatically remove WP:Words to avoid. You got this notice because you have participated in a discussion regarding this in the recent past. Your input is welcomed. Gigs (talk) 03:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Serious question
Hey,

why are you against fair use? Is fair use a form of copyleft? If so, I repeat the question: why are you against? 81.68.255.36 (talk) 02:40, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No, fair use is not a form of copyleft. And I'm not against fair use as a legal concept, I'm against using copyrighted materials at Wikipedia under a claim of fair use because I think doing so prevents us from achieving our goal of being a free-content encyclopedia, and because I think the constant wrangling and argument about what images meet the WP:NFC in what uses, as well as the maintenance of non-free images (making sure they all have adequate source information and appropriate rationales, are used correctly in articles, tagging those that violate, deleting those that have been tagged, and then explaining to people why they were deleted) uses up an incredible amount of administrators' time and energy that would be better spent writing content. +Angr 08:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I guess I was wrong then, I do agree with you. As a reader of this encyclopedia, I'd like to see some images. However, I can look those up with Google, anyway. I noticed the link you provided in your vegan allegory (true?) in which some people said that the argument that a user/reader can look up subjects elsewhere on the internet is a weak one. In the end, I find many policies of Wikipedia useless and contradictive. I hope you will achieve your goal, because it is a good one. 81.68.255.36 (talk) 16:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

copy to wikisource
Gday Angr. There is a piece at Category:Copy to Wikisource that looks like it belongs at cyWS. I have left a message about it at s:cy:Wicitestun:Y Sgriptoriwm. Tried to import it however I don't seem to have the privileges. Regards. billinghurst (talk) 23:57, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Welsh Wikisource doesn't seem to have import enabled from Wikipedia, so I just cut-n-pasted it. +Angr 07:17, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks from Kargin
Hey Angr, Thanks for your help on seemingly every page I am interested in. Have to give you 'props' for correcting my mistakes and helping reorganize things. Do you have any tips on how to get that annoying message off of the Texas Wends page? Also...what are your thoughts on a ProjectWendish? There is definitely sufficient topics (perhaps not yet created) to warrant such.Kargin (talk) 07:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I'm trying to remember what I wanted when I put that tag there. I think there are too many sections devoted to very specific moments in history; they could all be subsumed under a single "History" section. And there's not enough ethnographical information, both current and historical. What religions do they belong to? (I know most are Missouri Synod Lutherans, but the article doesn't say that, and are there also ELCA Lutherans among them? What about Roman Catholics? There are Catholic Sorbians in Germany; did any of them come to Texas?) How long was Sorbian spoken in Texas? Was it only Upper Sorbian, or Lower Sorbian too? How long did the Texas Wends speak German? What did they accomplish? (The article makes no mention of Concordia University Texas, which was founded by Texas Wends.) What customs did they retain, and which ones do they still practice? What distinguishes them (both formerly and today) from other Texas Germans, and from other Texas Slavs? And above all, the article needs inline citations, so the reader knows what information came from what source. +Angr 07:34, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tips, I'll definitely get to work on the page regarding them (and more) but for a non-official page answer: in George Nielsen's book Johann Kilian: Pastor... he cites that no Catholic Wends have been found to have left Lusatia. The overwhelming majority are Missouri Synod Lutherans though of course there are always the few the branch off and out to other things. The Wends that came to Texas were nearly all speakers of Upper Sorbian with some knowing the mixture language of the two having come from Hoyerswerda, all publications and books that I've been exposed to in the area (being originals) are in Upper Sorbian. The Texas Wends have retained the German speaking ability until the present generation (which I am a member of the older part of it), whereas my parents/extended family know enough German to make some conversation, very little was passed down to us or the majority in the communities. You are correct about Concordia Austin, aside from that and the establishment of the first LCMS pastor in Texas plus the St. Paul church built in 1871 being one of the painted churches of Texas, having the highest pulpit (needs to be verified) in Texas I'm at a loss of contributions off the top of my head. Rumpliche/Rumprecht and the egg decoration would be the last traditions to have disappeared at large which may be returning along with the Bird's Wedding as traditions. As far as differing from other Texans regardless of ethnic background your answer may be better found in the wikipedia article on Wends or Sorbs. I will try to review and consolidate information to 'pack a punch' and not tell the Wends article all over again for the Texas Wends. Again thanks and look forward to having the Texas Wends page improve exponentially. Remember I will always be open to constructive criticism.≤Kargin (talk) 08:07, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Of course, not all those things have to be done before the cleanup tag can be taken off! I've done some cleanup right now and taken the tag off. +Angr 10:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)