User talk:Mahagaja/Archive 54

Popcorn Report Book
Frankly, go delete it the photo if you want. It's her most famous book and the main reason she's known at all as a trend forecaster. But I'm sure Wikipedia is better off with the pointless and mindless disputes over fair use. You've done us all a service with your efforts and I'm not at all interested in these petty games. Get a life and thanks for reminding me why I shouldn't bother with Wikipedia anymore. Mattnad (talk) 15:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If it's her most famous book and the main reason she's known at all, write an article about the book and use the photo there, where it belongs, instead of whining to me that Wikipedia policy is "pointless and mindless" and that those of us who try to maintain it have no life. +Angr 19:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Ysbeidiau Heulog
Hi Angr - I had a go at transcribing this song title on request, and I've put [] for ysbeidiau, but actually on the record it's four syllables, something like [] - does that second one look reasonable to you? (He definitely sings [] and not [a] at the end.) Cheers Lfh (talk) 15:27, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's usual to pronounce -au as rather than [e] or [a] in singing. If it's definitely sung in four syllables, then  is probably right. +Angr 15:30, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Serbo-Croatian
well, the encyclopedia britannica agrees with you that Serbo-Croatian is a single language. To some degree I agree with you. The problem is just the name. I would finde a neutral name better, for example naming the languages after the rivers flowing through Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia. And the other problem is that every country made their own standard, even 100 years ago. Serbo-Croatian as we know it today is a Standard language based on the dialect spoken in Dubrovnik. there are uncountable examples of standarized langues. Stand German, based on upper german dialects, Italian based on Florencian dialect, French based on Parisian dialect, Spanish on Madridan dialect, Standard arabic based on the classical arabic, Standard Mandarin based on Beijing dialect, etc etc etc... when it comes to the question of dialect vs. languages, I think that there are dialects in truth. for example on the german-dutch border people on both sides of the border speak in truth the same dialect, but within different languages.

Last but not least: You cannot deny that in Wikipedia you can read that the term Serbo-Croatian is rather used to describe the umbrella language rather than to speak of it as a single language.

Honestly I wonder if croatian and serbian where that similiar BEFORE the creation of the standard language.

I guess the topic "dialect vs language/dialect or language" will always be a hot topic and a question of personal and political feelings, like most Bulgarians think Macedonian isn't an independent languagebut a bulgarian dialect. There are also some germans who think that dutch is a german dialect, also Sicilian vs. Italian...

By the way encyclopedias aren't always correct neither. for example in the encyclopedia britannica you can read that the dance Kolo is a dance danced on the balkan by bosnian, serbs, croatians, etc. But in the german Encyclopedia Brockhaus you can read that Kolo is Serbian... ;-/ Cantabo07 (talk) 13:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Here I copied the introducing paragraphs of the Artrikel Serbo-Croatian

Serbo-Croatian, Croato-Serbian, or Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian (BCS) (Srpskohrvatski, Hrvatskosrpski, or Bosanski/Hrvatski/Srpski, Cyrillic script: Cрпскохрватски, Xрватскосрпски), is a South Slavic language or diasystem. The term Serbo-Croatian is and has been used both as an umbrella term for all the dialects spoken in what is nowadays Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, and more importantly, as the official standard language of Yugoslavia from 1954 to 1990 (partially along with Slovene and Macedonian).

In its standardized form, it was based on the Neoštokavian subdialect of the Štokavian dialect system, and defined in Ekavian and Ijekavian literary variants, called "pronunciations". Unofficially, there were "Eastern" (based on the Serbian idiom) and "Western" (based on the Croatian and Bosnian idiom) literary variants, that eventually served as a basis for standard languages. By extension, Kajkavian and Čakavian dialects were often considered to be dialects of the Serbo-Croatian (while the Torlakian dialect was never recognized in mainstream linguistics), but they were not in official use.

With the breakup of Yugoslavia in the 1990s, its languages followed suit and Croatian, Serbian, and Bosnian became separate standard languages (Ausbausprachen); see differences between standard Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian. Currently, there is a movement to create a Montenegrin language, separating it from Serbian. Conversely, the term "Serbo-Croatian" declined in use, first from official documents and gradually from linguistic literature.

Today, use of the term "Serbo-Croatian" is controversial due to history, politics, and the variable meanings of the word language. Linguists are divided on questions regarding whether the use of the name should be deprecated. It is still used, for lack of a more succinct alternative, to denote the "daughter" languages as a collectivity. An alternative name has emerged abroad – Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian (BCS), when referring to the same dialectal base (stylised Neoštokavian) used for all the Serbo-Croatian standard languages. In the regional dialectology, the term Central South Slavic diasystem is sometimes used as a collective term, when discussing the intensive mutual influence of Serbo-Croatian dialects in the historical period. Cantabo07 (talk) 00:22, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Are you no longer a member of the linguistics talkpage? We need you there to sort out some controversies.
Alinovic (talk) 14:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

You must know that they're alleging me a sock puppet which is unfair and mean. It would have been nice to have your support on my side. I wish you all the best for future projects on Wikipedia. I'm now resigning from Wikipedia and wish to say good bye. Good bye, Angr, kind person. Let's meet sometime again. Alinovic (talk) 08:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Your userpage
I laughed. Then I laughed more. I may disagree with you on the issue of images... but I certainly got a kick out of the analogy. My compliments! 75.154.110.227 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC).

Thanks for the (belated?) welcome
Hi, and thanks for the welcome. Because it came 1 year (nearly to the day) after I registered, I'm confused: did you (or a tool listing recently registered users) fail to pay attention to the year, or is it due to a temporary shortage of round tuits? (I don't think I made any of the common newcomer errors in my edits, but I could be wrong - in which case, pointing me to which error(s) and where would be much appreciated.) The Crab Who Played With The Sea (talk) 19:31, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You didn't make any errors, don't worry! You just edited a page (Phonological history of English) on my watchlist, and I saw that your talk page was a red link, indicating that no one had welcomed you yet, so I did. It is embarrassing that someone can be around for a year before getting welcomed, but I figure better late than never. +Angr 20:00, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

You seem like quite a kind guy! Saying welcome to newbies who are still unwelcomed! Alinovic (talk) 15:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Precocious puberty
Hey, Angr. I just wanted to let you know that your question has recently been answered, though it is more of a battle between me and another editor.

On a side note, I have not seen you on the Vegetarianism article or its talk page in some time. Is it still on your watchlist? Flyer22 (talk) 11:15, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, it looks like the answer to my question depends entirely on how you define "breast" and "development" (and maybe how you define "boys"). As for Vegetarianism, no, it's not. I'm trying to cut down on the amount of drama in my wiki-life. +Angr 11:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * LOL. Yeah, well, stay away from the current argument then. Not that you need to be advised to do so. But this editor has had it out for me ever since our nubility discussion following our Talk:Puberty discussion.


 * I had cut back on Wikipedia in order cut down on Wiki stress, such as debates and vandalism, and because I was busy with off-Wiki stuff, but the Avatar (2009 film) article has brought me back in a very active way.


 * Anyway, I hope to see you around sometime. And we could always use your help with the Vegetarianism article.


 * Take care. Flyer22 (talk) 12:04, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Paul Kammerer
Might you be interested in translating this article from the German? If so, please leave a note at my talk page, —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 17:50, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No, I don't translate articles out of German anymore. +Angr 18:44, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Grr, nobody does! And I have so many articles I want translated! I'll have to ask everybody on the list! Unless you know some user who still does: if so please reply at my talk page. —innotata (Talk • Contribs) 23:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Hilarity
Thanks for that. I hadn't intended to leave it; I must have missed it on my final sweep of the page. ÷seresin 23:21, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Lena Horne
Both rationale and caption have been altered to comply. Pepso2 (talk) 22:27, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Church of Reality
Hi there. Back in 2005 you discussed this article at Articles for deletion/Church of Reality. The article has since been recreated, and I have re-nominated it for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Church of Reality (2nd nomination). Robofish (talk) 01:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:LangWithNameNoItals
Template:LangWithNameNoItals has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:24, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry Please ignore the above warning, as the template is protected and I cannot edit it to be nominated for deletion. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:25, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Keep an eye on?
Probably not blockable yet but you may want to keep an eye on Special:Contributions/84.56.141.252 given this question and the fact the IP belongs to the same ISP as this Special:Contributions/84.61.165.65 known to ask inane questions Nil Einne (talk) 12:53, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Adolph
Thanks for protecting my page from vandals. Your intentions were truly noble and laudable. However, the edit you reverted on this occasion was my own. I was editing at work, heaven help me. Cheers. --  Jack of Oz    ... speak! ...   07:14, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * That did actually occur to me as a possibility, but I figured if it was you not logged on, you'd just revert when you did log in with no harm done. If it had been almost anything other than Adolf Hitler, I wouldn't have thought it vandalism at all. +Angr 07:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * No harm done at all, my friend. --   Jack of Oz    ... speak! ...   08:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Speculative editorializing
The entire article kind of started out as speculative editorializing - I wrote the initial draft in 2003, before I knew NPOV from a hole in the ground. I think the part you removed is probably true, probably impossible to source and probably off-topic. Haukur (talk) 21:27, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on all points - including the "probably true" part. But of course merely being true isn't a good enough reason to include something in Wikipedia. +Angr 21:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Pictures.
Hello Angr, I noticed that you've tagged this picture, which I completely agree with, but I was wondering if you could also have a look at. It is by the same user. Please don't get me wrong, I completely understand why a new picture would need to be uploaded, but I also know that they should follow the rules and regulations, which I know they don't. I see you're good with these matters, which is why I brought it to you. Thanks you very much, even if you can't help. Happy editing. --HELLØ   ŦHERE 01:16, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry!
Hi sorry for making those minor edits. How are you?

AshleyNN (talk) 16:47, 6 February 2010 (UTC) Ashley

Ok!
Ok I will. Thanks so much for telling me that. =)

AshleyNN (talk) 16:49, 6 February 2010 (UTC)Ashley

Twin creeks middle school
FYI: I agree that the article should probably go. I sometimes add project templates to such incomplete articles specifically to attract attention and see if anybody wants to take responsibility for finishing it, demonstrating notability, etc.

--Mcorazao (talk) 17:37, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Grave accent in Trinitarian formula‎
In the full (Alexandrian) orthography of ancient Greek, an acute accent indicates a syllable in a word which in other circumstances is sometimes pronounced with a pitch accent, but which in the actual context in which it is found has no pitch emphasis. In other words, a syllable with a grave accent is pronounced the same as a word with no accent at all (as far as pitch goes). The grave accent was a part of the ancient Alexandrian orthography (which is very rarely found in early New Testament manuscripts, by the way), but it serves no real purpose in an English transcription (unless the intention is to use an extremely narrow exact graphemic transliteration, where one Greek orthographic symbol corresponds invariably to one Latin orthographic symbol in a rigid one-to-one "biunique" relationship)... AnonMoos (talk) 13:46, 13 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I know. But "eis to onoma tou Patros kai tou Huiou kai tou Hagiou Pneumatos" is a transliteration, not a phonetic transcription, so either all three types of accent should be included in the transliteration, or none of them should. I prefer omitting them all, since anyone who knows what they mean will be able to read the Greek alphabet anyway. The transliteration should be more for the benefit of people who can't read Greek, and they won't really be helped by the addition of a bunch of diacritics that mean nothing to them. +Angr 14:19, 13 February 2010 (UTC)


 * I have no objection to including none of them, but I think it makes quite a bit of sense to omit the grave while including the acute and circumflex. AnonMoos (talk) 15:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think enough people will understand why we'd be doing that. If we transcribed only the acute and the circumflex and left the grave untranscribed, people would be constantly coming and "correcting" it, and who could blame them? +Angr 15:50, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Aisling and Caitlin
Hello Angr - can you give the Irish pronunciations that are currently respelled at Aisling (given name) and Caitlin? Lfh (talk) 18:24, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I can't even figure out what they're trying to say. Those approximations are nothing even remotely like Irish. +Angr 19:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for taking the time to copy edit the Vedda language article. Taprobanus (talk) 23:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Removed section on RD/Lang
Just wanted to let you know that I removed a whole section on RD/Lang called "Past Tense" as the question you responded to was posted by a banned editor. Sorry for the collateral damage. -- LarryMac | Talk  00:09, 27 February 2010 (UTC)