User talk:Mahagaja/Archive 62

Costa del Azahar/dels Tarongers
Sorry for intruding on your talk page. I just wanted to know why did you change the phonetic transcription of Spanish and Valencian? AFAIK we use a narrow transcription for these languages, therefore the "d" in the clitic del/dels is lenited (as there is not a pause in this name/sentence; it is not "Costa, del Azahar" |  but "Costa del Azahar" ). Also, on the same article you changed Peníscola to Peñíscola, why? Both names are official, so both have the right to be used. Some months ago, we agreed to use a more neutral (English) form: Peniscola (without diacritics). So, shall we use this form in other articles as well? Jɑυмe (xarrades) 22:36, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I created the article using the spelling "Peñiscola" (with the tilde on the n but without the acute on the i), but that was 6 years ago and I cannot now remember why. Probably I wanted to avoid the unfortunate sequence of letters penis-, though that doesn't explain why I omitted the acute on the i. I've never touched the phonetic transcription. It was added [ here] by an anon with "d" and changed by another anon yesterday to "ð", so no one ever changed ð to d. Angr (talk) 05:40, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

JoshuaJohnLee talk softly, please 22:55, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Cécile Brunschvicg
Dear Angr, how generous and effective of you to pitch in, both on my Language RD query and on the page! In a matter of weeks I should be free to participate more in WP editing as I did in years past. Again, I find that no matter what I contribute, I learn even more. This has been a refreshing taste of what I've been missing, and it's so reassuring to discover I can get back in the swim, and in good company, too.  A bientôt! -- Deborahjay (talk) 13:16, 17 September 2011 (UTC)''

IPA-cmn
I don't know if you have an opinion on the changes at Template:C-cmn. They leave the articles inconsistent, though that can be fixed if there is consensus for the change. Not a transcription I'm familiar with, though. IMO we should get some acceptance at the main phonology article before making drastic changes like this. — kwami (talk) 06:47, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I know too little about Chinese to be of any help here. Angr (talk) 07:31, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of American Catholic Church in the United States for deletion
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Draft Beer Party
Back in 2005, you contributed to the deletion discussion of this article at Articles for deletion/Draft Beer Party. I believe consensus has changed since then and this article is no longer notable by our guidelines. I have renominated the article for deletion, and your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Draft Beer Party (2nd nomination). Robofish (talk) 23:34, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Comic strip formats
The "Little Annie Rooney" strip was specifically chosen to show panels rearranged into a vertical format, and thus a pre-1923 strip would not be appropriate. Pepso2 (talk) 00:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

wp:IPA for Portuguese
Hi Angr,

We are having an edit war at wp:IPA for Portuguese, could you please intervene, as you are a sysop and a linguist I believe you may take the best way to stop those reversion wars.--Luizdl (talk) 01:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like Kwami, who is also a sysop and a linguist, is taking care of it. Angr (talk) 05:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Survey for new page patrollers
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Veganism parable and the Signpost
Hi there. I've recently volunteered to help run the Opinion desk of the Signpost. Part of that responsibility involves finding people with interesting things to say about aspects of Wikipedia. I came across your essay at WP:Veganism parable, and decided to ask you if you were willing to either publish that piece in the Signpost, or if you prefer, write another piece for the Signpost. If you're interested, please drop me a line at my talk page.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  13:43, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I don't know. It seems a bit redundant to publish it at Signpost now, when it's been up as an essay in Wikipedia: namespace for 3½ years already. And I'm definitely not up to writing something new! If you want to link to it, that's fine, but I think it's pretty well known by now; it would seem old hat at Signpost. Angr (talk) 18:03, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Alright then.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  15:25, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Y as initial letter of a name in Polish or German
I was appalled to discover just now, when I retrieved the section heading from the RD/L archive, that it's been over two weeks since I posted it! :-o I appreciate your remarks confirming this as a guideline. This is on behalf of a new young colleague whose encounter with archival materials from 20th C. Europe is swiftly revealing her unfamiliarity with variant (i.e. non-English) pronunciations of the Latin alphabet. Since one of her tasks involves transcribing names in Hebrew and "foreign" (= romanized) spellings to generate new key words for the database, I'm starting to cobble together a chart she can use when the source text is Yiddish. A good exercise for me: I still haven't assimilated Dutch, Hungarian, and Romanian, and still have to check "my" Italian. As has been said, an effective way to learn something is to teach it. -- Thanks again, Deborahjay (talk) 06:00, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Celtitalic at Italo-Celtic
Though controversy eased this term over the cliff, it was the originally used term. If you want to revert edits, get your facts straight please. It doesn't deserve to be reverted just because you have not heard of it! Djathink imacowboy  18:51, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

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Otium
I notice that you participate in WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome. Could you look over this article and see if it warrants a B-Class rating. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell talk 17:35, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I don't; I'm in WP:WikiProject Latin. Angr (talk) 17:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reply. I'll keep working to improve the article.--Doug Coldwell talk 17:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * In WP:WikiProject Latin would it warrant Mid-importance?--Doug Coldwell talk 17:58, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * There has recently been several improvements to the article. In WP:WikiProject Latin would it warrant a B-Class rating? --Doug Coldwell talk 18:45, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

November 2011
Thank you for your contributions. Please remember to mark your edits, such as your recent edits to New Wine into Old Wineskins, as "minor" only if they truly are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes, or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. StAnselm (talk) 19:35, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Donald Duck - Orphan's Benefit.ogg
The message you left at my talk page said "If you believe this media is not replaceable, please remove the tag." But the tag itself says "Please do not remove this tag." So now I'm confused. Pigby (talk) 00:41, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The tag itself is right. Replaceable-fair-use tags shouldn't be removed; if you disagree you can add the di-replaceable fair use disputed tag below it. The template to be used on people's talk pages needs to be corrected. Angr (talk) 09:09, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Offensive?
What exactly was offensive about the comparative sentence in the Anglo-Frisian article? Are you sure you read it correctly? For what it's worth, the same "offensive" sentence is used on Frisian languages. Hayden120 (talk) 11:23, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * "The boy stroked the girl around the chin and kissed her on the cheeks" is sexist and demeaning. Angr (talk) 21:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * That is ridiculous. Are you saying that every time I've kissed my sweetheart on the cheeks, I've been a sexist, demeaning chauvinist? If the genders are reversed, is it no longer sexist? I find it sad and disturbing that something as innocent as expressing love is no longer politically correct. Unbelievable. Happy new year! Hayden120 (talk) 07:58, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm saying there are enough other sentences that can show the similarities between the Anglo-Frisian languages that we don't need this borderline soft porn. Angr (talk) 15:33, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Borderline soft porn? That is one of the most bizarre things I have read on Wikipedia, but okay. Since I am by no means fluent in West Frisian, Saterland Frisian and North Frisian, would you like to help me find a sentence? I hope this wasn't just a hit-and-run removal. Hayden120 (talk) 11:17, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If you're not fluent in the languages, where did you get the sentences you originally used from? Angr (talk) 11:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * As mentioned in my first comment here, the same sentence is used in the Frisian languages article. I can't imagine there would be many people fluent in three Frisian languages. Hayden120 (talk) 11:25, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * There too the sentence and all its translations are unsourced and we have no way of verifying whether it's grammatical in all the languages we don't happen to know personally. In fact, that's a much bigger problem than the offensiveness. It should really be removed from Frisian languages as well. If such an example sentence in multiple languages has been published in a reliable source, we can use that (if it's not a copyvio). Otherwise it's probably best to just do without an example sentence (they're not really terribly useful anyway). Angr (talk) 11:31, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

North American English
As someone who works on language issues could you look at this page. I admit to being totally confused by the recent talk page comment. Feel free to look at the article difference from my last version to the current one as well. The author seems very enthusiastic but I am unsure of the point trying to be made. (I would point out we spell dyke dike in America, not levee but I think that might add fuel to a fire I don't see the source of.) Rmhermen (talk) 21:00, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think he's just trying to say that what Americans call a levee, Brits call a dike, and Canadians use either word depending on whether their speech is more British-influenced or American-influenced. It's certainly true that younger Canadians' English is more American-influenced than that of older Canadians, but attributing this to "the mass media and its sycophants" is just ranting. The way some people carry on, you'd think there had never been language contact before the invention of television. Angr (talk) 21:24, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Candlemas, etc
You reverted some edits I made at Presentation of Jesus at the Temple; can you expand on why? I’ve opened a discussion here. Moonraker12 (talk) 16:01, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I've already answered there. Angr (talk) 16:01, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying to this; I've put another comment there. Moonraker12 (talk) 16:53, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear Angr,

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Ichthus: January 2012
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Tarantella Napoletana
Thought you might be interested in Tarantella Napoletana. Hyacinth (talk) 08:28, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that! Angr (talk) 09:38, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Old Irish Assistance?
Good to "see" you, Angr.

I also posted this on the Gaeilge Task Force page, but it looks like things have been a bit slow there; so here I am on your doorstep again.

At https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Badb#Representations_in_legends I put in the OI of "The Morrígan's Prophecy" from CELT: Cath Maige Tuired: The Second Battle of Mag Tuired. The English translation has been shared around for years, with a variety of people tweaking it. I think it's pretty straightforward, but would appreciate someone with more OI to check it. What had been there previously was a modern English version that, while creative and poetic, had been translated from a Modern Irish variation, and hence diverged pretty significantly from the original Irish. Go raibh maith agaibh, -  Kathryn NicDhàna ♫ ♦ ♫ 20:49, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Diasystem
I have recently gotten into a bit of a spat with another editor, Dale Chock at Talk:Diasystem. The long and the short of it is that Dale has removed content that I think is worth keeping. It hasn't gotten disruptive, but I can see that Dale has a vested interest in portraying me as incompetent so that he can dismiss my position. The presence of a mediator doesn't seem to have an effect on this. Do you think you could help out and participate in the discussion? — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 15:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Peadar Ua Laoghaire
Hi, I wrote much of the Peadar Ua Laoghaire article years ago - but I notice that we are showing the IPA for the pronunciation of Peadar with a broad r, but in the Muskerry dialect, this name, even in the nominative, is pronounced with a slender r. A source for this is the magazine An Músgraigheach, a local publication in the 1940s, part of which is transcribed at http://www.musgrai.com/foillsiu/musgraigheach/1/musgraigheach1_3, where the slender pronunciation of the r is discussed. So the IPA should be /pʹadirʹ/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.148.179.69 (talk) 11:52, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for altering that - I know you look after that page. You are doing well on wikisource with Séadna and Mo Sgéal Féin and now into the gospels. Have you seen that archive.org also has Peadar Ua Laoghaire's Acts of the Apostles at http://www.archive.org/details/gnomharthanana00olea ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.204.110 (talk) 23:06, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I hadn't seen that. Thanks for letting me know. Angr (talk) 23:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Uladh and Ulaidh
Hi, can you see the comment I made in the Talk Section of the Ulaid article? at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ulaid#Pronunciation The pronunciations given at http://www.abair.tcd.ie/?page=synthesis&lang=eng are very different... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.151.117.142 (talk) 17:26, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Sunglasses
I filed a 3rr report on the IP so better wait and not revert again for now. There is no rush. Cheers, TMCk (talk) 21:15, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Image at Alan Hovhaness
Hi Angr--

I have posted a response to your proposal for deletion of this image, both at the talk page, and at the jpg page itself. User:Jerome Kohl has been working with me for the past few months on assembling as complete as possible a list of compositions of Hovhaness, and I have now brought your proposed deletion to his attention, on the chance that he might have a suggestion one way or the other - see User talk:Jerome Kohl. (Our project is not yet published; for now it's still at User:Milkunderwood/sandbox Hovhaness). Milkunderwood (talk) 00:42, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Kwami and Pre-occlusion
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Thanks for posting re: "ads not by site" from the CodecC(or v) plugin
I was having the same issue of "ads not by this site" appearing all over Wikipedia. The ad-blocker blocked the ad, but the ad placeholder was still there (and intrusive), also, I am not sure how much information transfer occurs when/if the codec adware communicates with its developers. I am thankful to have it fixed. Das ist der Frolich! Danke! ( Sorry 8 years of German with 15 years of not using it means- well, not much!) Plutophanes 07:02, 10 April 2012 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.163.247 (talk)
 * Yeah, I had to actually uninstall Codec-C from my computer in order for it to disappear from Internet Explorer. For Firefox and Chrome, it was sufficient to disable the add-on. Angr (talk) 15:18, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Wiktionary
I am posting this to you as a wiktionary admin. Wiktionary, where apparently the trolls still hold the admin buttons. Or I am at a loss to explain this, and after I restored the vandalised page a block of my account for "Disruptive edits: multiple (dozens, hundred or thousands of edits)". I do not know if this guy was on drugs when he blocked me, or if he genuinely thinks that providing academic literature to discuss the etymology of a word counts as "disruptive" editing.

Apparently an enfant terrible even for wiktionary standards, but I can only hope that this will now be sufficient to get this joker de-adminned in a hurry.

regards, --dab (𒁳) 09:06, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've unblocked you and left him a note. I don't see what his problem is in this case, but normally I'm on good terms with him. Angr (talk) 09:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Bible templates
See Wikipedia_talk:Christianity_noticeboard too. Cheers Johnbod (talk) 15:56, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

RFC
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WP Languages in the Signpost
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