User talk:Mahagaja/Archive 65

Irish phonology
Hello Angr, I just wanted to say that I really like your article on Irish phonology. It’s extremely informative and it’s nice how it puts together various interesting sources on the subject. I don’t know if you’re interested, but I translated it to Swedish as well as I could: sv:Irisk fonologi, which is why I wanted to make sure that the pictures were correct. --Lundgren8 (t · c) 09:35, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Question regarding fair use at the reference desks
Dear Angr, would you mind weighing in at this dicussion (regarding this removal)? Thank you in advance! ---Sluzzelin talk  22:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ---Sluzzelin talk  00:49, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Comment & Question

 * Love your parable. Bet you get a lot of grief for your stance.
 * Doesn't your name come from old Norse? 50.193.171.69 (talk) 13:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I used to; not so much anymore. My username is also an Old Norse word, but that's not where I got it from. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I like it too, despite disagreeing with you! (But you're still not going to convince me :-P) Double sharp (talk) 02:50, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Anglican chant
After commenting in the WP:RDL thread about metrical psalters, I decided to find the "very funny video from the 1960s of a choir singing traffic regulations in the style of Anglican chant" that you mentioned. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qngi_jSaXlI wasn't hard to find, and after that I quickly found http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4z2jwDcb9wI. This is just a note of thanks for helping me find a hilarious pair of videos :-) Nyttend (talk) 00:56, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * My pleasure. Since we sing Anglican chant in my church choir, I sent the link to all the other choir members when I first found it. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 09:43, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

working on a conlang article
Any plausible mechanism by which [kʰj] could become [θ]? (It apparently happens, but how could it??!? [kj] becomes [t].) Double sharp (talk) 14:43, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * If you've already decided that [kj] becomes [t], then it's easy: [kʰj] first becomes [tʰ], which later becomes [θ]. For parallelism, it's a nice idea if [pʰ, tʰ, kʰ] become [f, θ, x] as well. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 15:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This isn't my conlang (although I wish it was!) [kj] > [t] is one of those things that seem plausible but I'm not sure how to describe in proper terminology, which is really why I asked you. :-)
 * If you were wondering, [pʰ, tʰ, kʰ] become [f, f, h] when initial. Medially they became [f, θ, x], nicely, though this [x] later becomes just [h]. (In [xt] it becomes [tt], but this [x] is derived from earlier [ɣ], not [kʰ]). Double sharp (talk) 03:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)


 * [kj], or at least k/_[i, e], became [θ] in Spanish, though I forget the details. — kwami (talk) 04:29, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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Serbin, Texas
I haven't vandalized the page in any way. I have added real term and name for Sorabs or Wends in question here- and that is Lusatian Serbs. An internationally recognized name for Lusatian Serbs, the founders of city of Serbin in Texas, is used in many encyclopedias all over the world and can not be ignored or forbidden for use on Wikipedia. Hence, you have done just that and it seems that are not ready to accept the facts simply because you do not like them. You abused your administrator's status with this action and further more you have miss-presented the facts when you branded my input as vandalism. I kindly urge you to reconsider... Andrejnigel (talk) 12:38, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You continue to put Serbian nationalist nonsense in an article that has nothing whatever to do with Serbs. The Sorbs are not Serbs, even if the two names are etymologically related. "Lusatian Serbs" is not "an internationally recognized name", nor is it used in encyclopedias anywhere. It's a contradiction in terms. Locking the page was the only way I saw to protect the page against your persistent misinformation. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 13:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

I find it rather insulting that you are calling me a nationalist, especially that it is obvious that you are poorly educated on this subject. I offered you the proof and facts and faced with that, instead of studying and examining them- you locked the page, accused me of vandalism and now you are turning to insults. Wikipedia is NOT YOUR PRIVATE site and you certainly seem to behave like it is. Let me clearly answer on your nonsense above: Lusatian Serbs is an internationally recognized name, just like Sorabs or Wends and even more: here it is acknowledged on this very same Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbs. Then we have hundreds of pages available online, but lets go to this one: famous book from Peter Brock http:(J. P. Jordan's Role in the National Awakening of the Lusatian Serbs)//www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/40866171?uid=3737528&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21102732736111. So,tell me, is this book published on Sorbian or english language? What is the name of the book? What about this:(National aims of the Lusatian Serbs) http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/details/C2804466?descriptiontype=Full&ref=FO+371/47173 or this:(WENDS, SERBS OR SORBS? THE BRITISH FOREIGN OFFICE AND THE SORBS OF LUSATIA (1942-47))http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1468-0483.1995.tb01637.x/abstract, or this: (Well Known Slovaks, Lusatian Serbs, Slovenes and Bulgars)http://www.unz.org/Pub/RadosavljevichPaul-1919v01-00187....We can go on and on but the only FACT HERE IS THAT Lusatian Serbs is internationally used and recognized name for people from Lusatia and their descendants. More importantly, Lusatian Serbs consider this term as a RIGHT international name for them and it also very clear why they gave a city name SERBIN and not SORBIN. Please unlock the page and apologies to me for insulting me and abusing your administrators authority in such a blatant manner...Andrejnigel (talk) 22:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, we'll compromise. I apologize for saying "Lusatian Serb" isn't used in English at all; apparently it is used, though extremely rarely compared to the usual terms "Sorbs" and "Wends". I will unlock the page provided you promise to stop changing it to use the highly misleading term "Serb"/"Serbian", which Wikipedia's readers will nearly unanimously understand to refer to the Serbs of Serbia, and allow it to say "Sorb"/"Sorbian", which is unambiguous and the far more common term in English. Deal? Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:10, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Deal...So if i understand well- you will use the term Sorbian land, instead of Wendish or Serbian land? In that case I agree and will not change anything at all, but please add on the beginning also Lusatian Serbs as a third term/name. I think that's fare, since most of the encyclopedias do name all three names...So then there will be no mistaken identity as you say and also we will have precise nation naming information as i would like... I take it that we are on good terms now and since i already prepared some more links for you regarding Lusatian Serbs term use- consider these just a friendly gesture of purely informative kind(i am sure you will enjoy some of the links): This is from Time magazine (1945): http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,852307,00.html ; Documentary film-Lusatian Serbs – Forgotten Nation:http://www.slavorum.com/forum/index.php?topic=894.msg8993#msg8993; Nationamaster encyclopedia: vvv.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Lusatian-Sorbs ; Book PEASANT PIONEERS -An Interpretation- of the Slavic Peoples in the United States http://open.bu.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/2144/771/peasantpioneersa008724mbp.txt?sequence=3 ; Ethnography of Lusatian Serbs:http://www.kunstkamera.ru/kunst-catalogue/items/item-view.seam;jsessionid=6BE0998989979A5B4F309018BFAD6BD5?c=POSTCARD&id=82437&cid=409901; Slovakian national site- Formation of the Slav states:http://www.slovakia.org/history3.htm; The Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia, 6th ed.last pharagraph:http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/society/wends.html; THE CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA last pharagraph: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14042a.htm ;Culture of Lusatian Serbs- skill Of Painting Easter Eggs:http://funkidos.com/pictures-world/amazing-world/skill-of-painting-easter-eggs/; Lastojcka-song of Lusatian Serb:http://foofind.is/en/download/huXQVgpyRlCUOBLD/%22%C5%81astoj%C4%8Dka%22%20(%22A%20Swallow%22)%20-%20a%20Song%20of%20the%20Lusatian%20Serbs%20(Serbja,%20Serby).html ; Historical Dictionary of the Czech State:http://books.google.rs/books?id=0YKMHQk7l-AC&pg=PA222&lpg=PA222&dq=lusatian+serbs&source=bl&ots=G__3etB7uc&sig=ydWWIZMfK5cN27b7w8oM-2mVvsw&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2ihXUqv7N4TT0QWM3oCABw&ved=0CFQQ6AEwCTgo#v=onepage&q=lusatian%20serbs&f=false...23:02, 11 October 2013 (UTC)Andrejnigel (talk)
 * Thanks for the links. I've unprotected the page Serbin, Texas and changed many of the instances of "Wendish" to "Sorbian". Since the page Sorbs already mentions the synonym "Lusatian Serbs" I didn't see any reason to mention it on the page, which is, after all, supposed to be about a town in Texas and not about a group of people in Germany. I kept "Wendish" in a few places where that name is used locally in Serbin, such as the name of the Texas Wendish Heritage Museum. I was in Serbin a few years ago for the Wendish Festival; I bought a pin that says "Kiss me, I'm Wendish!" (an allusion to the "Kiss me, I'm Irish" pins you see on St. Patrick's Day in the U.S.). There in Serbin, "Wendish" is really by far the most common term. In Lusatia itself, in German, "Sorben" is the most common term, though a small minority Lower Sorbians do call themselves "Wenden" in order to distinguish themselves from the Upper Sorbians. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 23:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Old Latin form of "videre"
Hello,

is the Old Latin form of "videre" as in Classical Latin? I wondered since the Proto-Indo-European form is "weyd", thus could it probably be "veidere"? The ei-diphtong would then be monophonthongized to "i" from Old Latin to Classical Latin.

Greetings HeliosX (talk) 12:34, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The i in the present stem is short, so it comes from the zero grade *wid- of the root whose full grade is *weyd-. The perfect stem has a long ī, which probably comes from the o-grade *woid-. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 13:27, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

"Ode-to-Napoleon" hexachord
What part of the MOS indicated that the title of "Ode-to-Napoleon" hexachord should have double quotes? Hyacinth (talk) 23:45, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
 * MOS:QUOTEMARKS. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:42, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for answer. When I noticed that you just uploaded lower-resolution versions, it was too late :). --SteveR (talk) 13:49, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

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If this edit wasn't disruptive; fine, keep it. I am not going "damnatio memoriae of blocked users"" at all. This person made a lot of extra work for a lot of editors by asking a lot of questions in vain, in an ineffective useless and fruitless way, and was blocked because of that. What I am doing is preventing people to start engaging in matters where he or she started a lot of unproductive treads. And I am not the only obne doing this ->,, , , Cheers. Hafspajen (talk) 18:04, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * But those edits really were disruptive. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:37, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Delayed response
You asked this question back in October 2012. Just thought you might like to know that it did finally inspire an article about the tune itself: Mysterioso Pizzicato, as well as another inspired by some of the other suggestions. Better late than never. Happy New Year. - Ka renjc (talk) 11:19, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

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Change in pronunciation
Hi, you changed the pronunciation of the town Hephzibah in the Hephzibah, Georgia article. I'm wondering why you changed it? It seems that what you have replaced the original with does not have correct syllable separation (in local pronunciation). NewAccount4Me (talk) 03:50, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Also, it seems that you have changed out the reduced vowel in the beginning of the word with an incorrect full vowel. Thanks NewAccount4Me (talk) 03:53, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * What I was mostly interested in doing was correcting the final glottal stop to a schwa. The other changes were based on my general intuitions as a native speaker and the conventions of English transliteration, such as not using ɨ in pretonic syllables and as transcribing ambisyllabic consonants as if they belonged to the preceding syllable. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 13:48, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've moved discussion about pronunciation of this town's name to its talk page. Just wanted to give you a heads up. NewAccount4Me (talk) 20:00, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

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Tz'utujil
Hi Angr,

Which text?

— kwami (talk) 19:38, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


 * The text of the paragraph in the article, which read, "The glottalized stops and affricates are usually ejective in the case of kʼ, chʼ, and tzʼ and implosive in the case of bʼ, tʼ, and qʼ.". There was a mismatch between the text and the chart, so I adapted the chart to the text. Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:44, 15 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay. Found a ref.  It's a bit more complicated, but wasn't far off.  — kwami (talk) 07:10, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

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