User talk:Mahonjt

Football in Australia
While I appreciated your enthusiasm in editing Football in Australia, please be very careful to cite sources appropriately and make sure you fairly represent all Australian football codes. I removed some bits that felt like they were pushing creating point of view problems by making soccer seem more popular than it was with out providing appropriate context around other footy codes. That information would probably fit better in Soccer in Australia or Women's association football in Australia. --LauraHale (talk) 06:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)



While I appreciate your enthusiasm in editing my edits within minutes of them being made, your explanation provides no information as to how I failed to provide "adequate context"? I simply amended the "participation" section to use the latest ERRAS data which is data collected by the Australian Sports Commission.

Your message to me fails to provide as explanation as to how the Australian government's data is misleading? Or, in your words making Association football “seem more popular than it was”. If you feel that it is misleading because it includes persons under the age of 10 (unlike the ABS citation you insist on using) and/or provides the data without contextually reference to the popularity and gender inclusiveness of Association football (i.e. women and girls don't participate in the other codes is any significant numbers) – then you need to say so. This context can be factually added. But the official government data is what the data is? It is not my opinion – just statistical facts which are the property of the Australian government.

Furthermore, your comments seem to imply that the inclusion of the indoor variety of Association football and "touch" variety of rugby league was also a problem. Can you again advise why the inclusion of these data are misleading. You will note that I included the data with and without these varieties of these two forms of football. What "context" was missing in your opinion.

When I get a moment I will return the ERRAS data on the basis that it is accurate, current and includes all participants in Association football and the codes of AFL, rugby league and rugby union. When I do this, and you inevitably seek to change it - please advise why my approach is a problematic for you? Finally, you will also need to advise why my citation of the ASC use of the term “Football” for Association football was incorrect. You will notice the very same citation is used for another fact on the same page.

I will leave my comments at this. Your response will be an indication as to your motivation, as simply put, the statistical truth clearly and deeply troubles you!

--Mahonjt (talk) 07:00, 1 August 2012 (UTC)