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Macrocystis pyrifera
This is not found on any island, and so cannot be part of the island's flora. It is categorized in "Flora of the Pacific", and could be categorized as present in other oceans where it occurs, but is not terrestiral. It is also not productive to list an organism in every minor category into which it could be placed. A widespread species like Pteridium aqulinum would then be placed in multiple state, province, and country categories. It is better to list such items in the most broad categories only, and if a regional flora is desired, that is better handled as a list than with categories. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:56, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Interesting comment - which to me, in my ignorance regarding the conventions, raises many questions. With regard to your first statement - does it mean that plants (mostly seaweeds I guess) whose attachments to the substrate (holdfasts) are below low tide level cannot be considered part of an island's flora?  Giant Kelp and similar plants are certainly associated with islands - as they are not free floating and require the islands to attach to (even if below normal low tides).  It suggests that the island does not exist below sea level.  Can islands not have a marine flora, or is that term applied only to oceans?  Does the same convention apply to fauna - such as reef fishes?


 * Secondly, I do agree with you about overcategorisation. I am not interested in political categories for biota, but isolated islands are ecological units and it seems that it might be useful to mention the fact that a particular taxon occurs on (or maybe at) a particular island, especially if it has some significant connection to it - such as breeding there, or being ecologically important locally for other organisms. Maias (talk) 03:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Regarding the first point: Are migratory marine mammals part of the "fauna" of all the lands by which they pass? If a particular octopus is found throughout the Mediterranean Sea, does that make it a part of the European and African fauna?  Biologists are notoriously inconsistent about this.  And those that would include such animals as part of the fauna would still probably not include the local marine diatoms, dinoflagellates, and other phytoplankton as part of the flora.  In general, I would not include marine organisms as part of an island's flora and fauna unless they were at least intertidal.


 * Distributional information should appear in a map or as text in the article. Categorization into all the numerous islands around the Pacific would not be a beneficial activity.  Island-specific lists are a better option and tend to be more stable and better maintained. --EncycloPetey (talk) 05:32, 5 March 2011 (UTC)


 * It seems that an arbitrary line must be drawn somewhere, even though it gives rise to anomalies. Leaving aside cosmopolitan organisms that may occur anywhere along the edges of an ocean, with regard to oceanic islands surrounded by deep water, I would have thought it logical to think of plants and animals tied to its shallow-water habitats, such as reefs or kelp forests, as being components of the flora or fauna of such islands.  What about those that are endemic to (the immediate surrounds of) one such island?  I find it interesting that we demand clean-cut categories when nature has ares of fuzzy overlap. Cheers. Maias (talk) 06:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

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Little Lon
Hi Maias. You may have noticed Ive started a page on Little Lon district. You seem to have similar interests and might like to review/add to it. Or maybe you know where some good photos are! CheersNickm57 (talk) 13:17, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Nick - good to see another article to helpfill out the fascinating history of Melbourne, a city I have much interest in. I will certainly add information and illustrations if I come across anything suitable. Cheers. Maias (talk) 23:32, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Flying High Bird Sanctuary
A tag has been placed on Flying High Bird Sanctuary by User:OlYeller21 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If you think the article should be kept, you are welcome to contest the deletion. Snowman (talk) 07:30, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
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DYK for Reindeer in South Georgia
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DYK for Paperbark Flycatcher
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DYK for Blue Mud Bay
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DYK for Cabbage Tree Island
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Lord Howe
Many thanks for your helpful assistance with editing. The only change I would like to make is to the Lead. WP policy says (whether the lead meets the criteria below is one matter) that the lead consist of no more than 4 paragraphs. I have adjusted it accordingly: The 'lead section' (also known as the 'introduction, lead, or lede'[1]|undefined) of a Wikipedia article is the section before the table of contents and the first heading. The lead serves both as an introduction to the article and as a summary of its most important aspects.''  The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article. It should define the topic, establish context, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and summarize the most important points—including any prominent controversies. The emphasis given to material in the lead should roughly reflect its importance to the topic, according to reliable, published sources, and the notability of the article's subject should usually be established in the first few sentences.''

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 * Hi Granitethighs. No worries. I have not looked at the MOS for for a while. You are doing a great job with the article.  Cheers. Maias (talk) 11:50, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Tassie
So much to do and now not enough time to do it in... the whole south west and western stuff that I have either started or played with needs reviewing - a lot was done pre-trove - a lot could be done to improve it all - but now I have a lot less time to do it in... sigh 01:29, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Fivebough and Tuckerbil Swamps
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DYK for Wardang Island
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IOC names
Saw you have done a lot of nice work on moving bird pages to IOC names. Could you move European Starling to its IOC name Common Starling, please? I don't feel confident ove making a move like this with large numbers of incoming links. Also the Aphelocoma jays need some attention. Thanks! British Birder (talk) 08:53, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. Done. Maias (talk) 10:41, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! British Birder (talk) 10:01, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Another one, please! Can you move Sylvia minula from Small Whitethroat to its IOC name Desert Whitethroat - I can't do it as the Desert Whitethroat has a page history so needs an administrator to deal with. Thanks! British Birder (talk) 13:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, British Birder - I'm not an admin. If you ask on the bird project talk page someone will help. Cheers. Maias (talk) 13:58, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Tassie
So much to do and now not enough time to do it in... the whole south west and western stuff that I have either started or played with needs reviewing - a lot was done pre-trove - a lot could be done to improve it all - but now I have a lot less time to do it in... sigh SatuSuro 01:32, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Funny - when one first comes across Wikipedia the immediate reaction is to think "Wow! So much stuff covered" -even if often a little imperfectly. After being here for a while one sees increasing gaps and areas of empty space.  Every time I complete an article the redlinks appear and demand attention.  Now I think I am going to have to do something on Birchs (Birch's? Birches?) Inlet.  Just so the OBPs don't fall off the map... Yep - so much stuff to do.... Maias (talk) 02:00, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * some leads for birchs

3 KB (413 words) - 22:30, 25 July 2011 some level of activity in the area and in the same era the closest council considered track making from Birches Inlet on Macquarie Harbour ... 2 KB (243 words) - 22:31, 25 July 2011 Features within the harbour were named the Gordon River after the owner of the Elizabeth and Birch Inlet after Kelly's employer and ... 8 KB (1,074 words) - 02:30, 23 June 2011 Two kinds of basalt from the Birchs Inlet–Mainwaring River Volcanics, occur in a belt north from Veridian Point and west of the south end ... 71 KB (10,596 words) - 05:17, 21 July 2011 navigable by shallow draft vessels inlet on the West Coast of Tasmania, Australia. ... Birch's Inlet - at south west end of harbour: ...
 * 1) Point Hibbs The lagoon is less then 20 kms from Birches Inlet. It also has been a location of sighting of unusual sea animals and whale strandings ...
 * 1) Spero River
 * 1) James Kelly (Australian explorer)
 * 1) Geology of Tasmania
 * 1) Macquarie Harbour

so the variant spelling is fun http://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=birches+inlet and http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/gazm01?placename=birch+inlet&placetype=0&state=TAS comes up zilch - so its fun :)  SatuSuro 02:21, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I guess I will go with Birchs; it's what BirdLife uses. Maias (talk) 02:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

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Shaheen Falcon
I see you have edited the article I started on Shaheen Falcon. Thanks. Now it looks like a real Wikipedia article, organized and with pictures. It was the first article I created in Wikipedia. Thank you.Gregorvitch (talk) 08:06, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, Gregorvitch; you made a good start with that article. I have an interest in distinctive subspecies.  I hope you continue and create further articles on birds.  Cheers. Maias (talk) 11:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I've got some questions

1. As a subspecies of Peregrine Falcon, is it wrong to say that the Shaheen is one of the fastest animals of the world?

2. I intend to create an article on Eastern Peregrine Falcon soon. Then is it ok if I write it in the See also section of the Shaheen Falcon article?

Gregorvitch (talk) 08:18, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Gregorvitch. You asked:
 * As a subspecies of Peregrine Falcon, is it wrong to say that the Shaheen is one of the fastest animals of the world?
 * I am sure that it is not wrong. However, since the article is about a subspecies, I would be careful about putting in general information that refers to the species.  Since you need references for the information in the artticle, it is usually best to put in information where the source refers unambiguously to the subspecies the article is about, or at least makes it clear that it applies to all subspecies.


 * I intend to create an article on Eastern Peregrine Falcon soon. Then is it ok if I write it in the See also section of the Shaheen Falcon article?
 * I think it is great that you are doing an article on another subspecies. No problems with a link in a 'see also' section.

Thank you for making it clear to me.Gregorvitch (talk) 05:47, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

North-west Tasmanian Coast Important Bird Area
Hey Maias, Just wanted to let you know that I saw that you created the new article North-west Tasmanian Coast Important Bird Area--The information is presented clearly and is easy to understand. It's nice to see you editing!Amy Z 04:29, 8 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amyxz (talk • contribs)
 * Hi Amy - thanks for that; always nice to get some positive feedback. Cheers. Maias (talk) 04:33, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Merging ornithology-by-year articles
Hi there, : User:Jowaninpensans and I will be working together on merging all these ornithology-by-year articles into something much better; as part of this, all the articles of this type with little content are being PRODded. We're in the process of gathering all the data together (with original contributors' details) at User:Jowaninpensans/SandboxBirds, including (of course) your contributions :o) If you'd like to help us out on this major merging project, please do!  Pesky  ( talk  …stalk!) 14:07, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 1962 in birding and ornithology


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 * Note: User:Jowaninpensans and I will be working together on merging all these ornithology-by-year articles into something much better; contributions from the creators of these articles (if not Jowaninpensans) are being recorded as such, and notes dropped onto their talk pages, so hopefully this will be an uncontested PROD :D  Pesky  ( talk  …stalk!) 14:08, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

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Striped Honeyeater
Thanks for rating Striped Honeyeater However I'm suprised at the C-Class. "The article is substantial, but is still missing important content or contains a lot of irrelevant material. The article should have references to reliable sources, but may still have significant issues or require substantial cleanup."

The DYK reviewer described it as an "excellent article" and it is very similar to the Red-headed Honeyeater and Black Honeyeater which I recently took from stub to Good Article. Any advice on on what is 'missing' or irrelevant' or what needs 'cleanup'? Thanks Marj (talk) 18:19, 28 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Marj. I guess I tend to rate conservatively; it is certainly close to B, and it is likely someone else would rate it as such. I do not think it contains irrelevant material, nor requires significant cleanup.  I will have another look, but if you think it should be assessed as B right now, go ahead and do so. Then you can go for GA. Cheers. Maias (talk) 00:05, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Maias. It can sit for a while, others may be able to add info. Appreciate the feedback. Marj (talk) 00:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Have reassessed as B; I was being a little picky, feeling it needed more info. However, I think you have probably already found most of what is available.  Maias (talk) 00:19, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

RfC input needed
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wairau bar
Thanks heaps for the tidying of my meagre efforts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.152.198.245 (talk) 02:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. Cheers. Maias (talk) 02:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Traprock
Hello, Maias. I see that you created a new disambiguation page at Traprock earlier today. Based on the links you collected there, it looks like a disambig page was definitely needed. However, I hope you will also remember to help WP:FIXDABLINKS by checking the existing Wikipedia articles that contain links to "Traprock" and fixing them to point to the correct article. Thanks. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:44, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder, Russ. Cheers. Maias (talk) 00:05, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Atlas of Australian Birds
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អបអរសាទរ
(Meaning congrats)

Thanks for making Kep a disambiguation page... going through the list I found links meant for Kep, Cambodia, Kep Province, and believe it or not, Kép, Vietnam. Definitely worthy for a disambiguation page.

Allosyncarpia merge
Hi Maias, according to Naming conventions (flora), Allosyncarpia ternata should be a redirect to Allosyncarpia if it's the only species in the genus. If you like, I can perform the merge myself -- any objections? Melchoir (talk) 03:58, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No objections. With birds the redirect is from genus to species. Cheers.Maias (talk)
 * That's curious. Well, it's done! Melchoir (talk) 04:32, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Titchwell
Thanks for tidy  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  14:38, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. Cheers. Maias (talk) 11:34, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Important Bird areas
Have started a very slow breakup into states, will take me a long time due to outside time issues - hope it fits - cheers SatuSuro 11:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I envisaged that with over 500 Aus IBA articles it would become desirable. WA probably has the most - over 100 I think.  About 95% of the articles done so far. Cheers. Maias (talk) 12:10, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Also despite tying in with national legislation and obligations through treaties (ramsar etc) - I am assuming different states might have different local strategies for these locations as well - cheers - Its gonna take me ages to do - so patience plaese SatuSuro 12:18, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just happy that someone else is taking an active interest in them. You are quite right about local strategies; making a site an IBA confers nothing in the way of protection directly, but some state and territory conservation departments do take note of them to a greater or lesser extent. Maias (talk) 12:30, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
 * sorry that you had to pick it up :( - my short term memory of promises on wp is about zilch retention - worse on long term - hope you are  having a good christmas - cheers SatuSuro 03:38, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries. Just finished going through the main list, and so now on to the followup checking, tidying, categorisation, interlinking etc etc. Christmas quite quiet - which is good. Cheers. Maias (talk) 04:44, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I came here after seeing your removal of the IBA cat from Richardson Bay. I agree with moving the US pages to states, but there is no California cat now.  Are you getting ready for a big bot project, or are you hoping for more volunteers to set up the state cats and start populating them?--Hjal (talk) 19:20, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Richardson Bay's page at Audubon is here:. It's not a snap to turn these up--I don't see a simple list at the Audubon page linked at Important Bird Areas. There is a link at the bottom of that page to a new map and database that will get you to the Richardson Bay page and let you see the area on a zoomable map of California. Some are easier to find at BLI's site, where you can click to see regional lists of IBAs. Here is the list for the 200+ sites in the U.S. as of 2009. The IBL site itself does not seem to have all of the sites identified by Audubon in their seachable database, and even fewer on the zoomable world map.  For California it doesn't show anything in California except the Salton Sea on the map. The pdf for the US only shows sites in a few states and only the southern part of California.  Their national lists only seem to show sites of "global importance," and not all of those, yet. Perhaps WP should have a list article on the IBAs of Global significance and use cats for the others, unless editors are up to making state and national level lists. I'm watching this page, so you can reply here.--Hjal (talk) 22:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

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Eugene Eisenmann
Greetings, Maias! Just wanted to let you know that I've nominated Eugene Eisenmann for DYK. Cheers! :) Wilhelmina Will (talk) 09:33, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thamks, Wilhelmina. Cheers. Maias (talk) 11:48, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hi,

I removed the image from Charles Darwin Reserve as it wasn't taken on the reserve, but 703 km away. That's a long way away. I hope you don't mind. I think it's better without an image as that encourages someone to add a more relevant one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.79.166 (talk) 19:31, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries. Maias (talk) 22:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Well it might be but you've added a different one from Alice Springs Telegraph Station, which is ever further away (3,766 km according to Google Maps). Why can't we have one from the reserve itself?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.246.180 (talk) 17:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Please feel free to add whatever images you have of the reserve; thery would indeed be highly appropriate. Meanwhile I have added images of creatures found on the reserve - as images of the animals, not of the reserve - to illustrate what might be found there.  Please do not assume that such illustrative additions need necessarily toi be sourced from the reserve, though it would be nice if they were.  There seems little point in removing such appropriate images until you have found better, more appropriate ones. Maias (talk) 22:52, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Redirect White-breasted Ground Dove leads to Purple Ground Dove Snowman (talk) 20:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect Purple Ground Dove leads to White-breasted Ground Dove Snowman (talk) 20:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, Snowman; it's all very strange. I am not sure what caused this tangle, but I think you had better check with User:Pvmoutside who did a host of related redirects yesterday. Maias (talk) 00:17, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nevertheless, you moved White-breasted Ground Dove with this edit on 25 July 2011, so I thought that you might know something about it. I will enquire on bird talk page. Snowman (talk) 13:20, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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Ornithology
Hi Maias: Just wondering why you've added ornithology to the WP:BIRDS list of former GAs. It never achieved that status, though Shyamal did try to get it there back in 2009. MeegsC | Talk 12:41, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Meegs - thanks for pointing that out. I saw on the talk page that it it had been previously nominated and absentmindedly read that as having been delisted. I need some sleep... Maias (talk) 13:25, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries! It's just a depressing enough list already... :) MeegsC | Talk 13:33, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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In recognition of all the work you’ve done lately! 66.87.2.10 (talk) 13:38, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Pelecanus schreiberi
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

thanks
Thanks for adding my list to wikiprojet birds.Nhog (talk) 17:20, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No worries, Nhog! Maias (talk) 23:24, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Source - 1874 Transit of Venus Expedition to Campbell Island
Template:Did you know nominations/1874 Transit of Venus Expedition to Campbell Island FYI, Maile66 (talk) 15:57, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. Cheers. Maias (talk) 00:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1874 Transit of Venus Expedition to Campbell Island
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 6 June 2012 (UTC)