User talk:Maile66/Hawaii/James Kaʻupena Wong

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Just FYI stuff. I have been slowly gathering what I can about Kaupena Wong for a future article. You know how everything in Hawaiian history is interconnected. I see you created Kamokuiki, mother of Kahaopulani. Col. 1 here says Kaupena was a direct descendant of Kahaopulani, calls her Kamehameha's "foster" mother, which isn't necessarily hanai (but could be interpreted that way). Kekoolani Genealogy of the Descendants of the Ruling Chiefs of Hawaii doesn't mention her that I see. It's confusing for me to look at, as I think what is below has nothing to do with Kaupena's lineage. — Maile (talk) 19:51, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Kamokuiki was not the mother of Kahaopulani. Kamokuiki was a first cousin once removed of Kahaopulani. I've heard the use of hanai too, but there is ambiguity in that because often times lower-ranking chiefs who raised higher ranking ones are not referred as readily as hanai parents in the history. For examples Kaikioewa is often called the guardian of Kamehameha III and later Moses Kekuiaiwa instead of his hanai father which I have seen in some sources. Or that John Papa Ii functioned like a hanai father to Princess Victoria Kamamalu but it seems few sources refer to him as such. Generally, sources seems to refer to Kahaopulani as the woman who raised and nurse Kamehameha when he was a baby alongside her own daughter during the period Alapainui was hunting down the baby. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:43, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of pride in connection with this individual so I am not surprise to see it mention. The British-Hawaiian Beckley family descends from a brother while Kamaka Stillman descend from her daughter. Numerous other Hawaiians probably are related to this line which served the Kamehameha family. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:45, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Two articles on Kahaopulani
 * https://nupepa-hawaii.com/2014/06/14/history-and-the-kahu-hanai-of-kamehameha-1911/#more-14133