User talk:MainlyTwelve

Edits on Swingline
Hey, MainlyTwelve, I noticed you recently removed the stub template from the Swingline article, which I had recently added. I was wondering why as the article was rated as stub-class on it's talk page. Thanks! Rafaelmanman (talk) 14:54, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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Stub tags
Please remember that stub goes right at the end, after categories - see WP:ORDER. If you put it elsewhere it creates more work for anyone stub-sorting. Thanks. Pam D  14:58, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

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DYK for Sonya Legg
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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
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There is a new template available,, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
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There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Culling monkeypox
Monkeypox USA is 17 pages, more than one page is just a timeline. "Monkeypox outbreak" is 65 pages.

Just because you're a senior doesn't mean your idea of "encyclopaedic" is more correct. If you followed Covid-19 you notice stuff gets added, changed, and then when we're all good it gets culled.

Don't think for a minute the average Wikipedia user is intelligent as you, people come to Wikipedia out of desperation, while the family is given a death sentence, they want this information easy-to-use, not a dead-end.

It's very irresponsible to remove the information that explains garbage has new rules and regulations (I gather you live stateside, I don't) and you can easily be breaking a federal law by doing something like sending mail or taking out a trashcan.

I'm grateful you haven't rolled back all my edits, but, I think you should have left culling life-saving information to an official Wikipedia bureaucrat.

I don't think I'm negligent by adding one page to a document, that is less than a quarter of the global outbreak size page count.

I sincerely hope you double-check your actions with a responsible party. I can live with myself looking dumb, no-one is going to think my actions are Twitter worthy.

Have a nice day. Victorianchan (talk) 22:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)

July 2022
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Adam Neumann
Hi MainlyTwelve. I noticed that you have previously edited the BLP of the founder of WeWork, Adam Neumann, so I thought you might like to take a look at my recent Edit Request which I posted on the article's talk page. I hope you agree with my request and can implement it as you see fit. Thanks for helping out. Carlos for Neumann (talk) 10:24, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

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Matthew Kenslow
Hey Mainly Twelve, Thank you for looking over my article. Obviously it is my first one. But why don't you reply to me here and tell me what I could do? I thought I was grammatical with no spelling errors. I cited everything I could that could be found anywhere on the internet, so how can you possibly say that I have a close connection with Kenslow? Everything I put can be found with a Google search or reading his book. Lastly, how can Matthew Kenslow not be a notable person with being in Newsweek, television, radio, podcasts, and all those followers on Instagram and YouTube? The only reason I written the article now is because he's noticed everywhere worldwide and a social media sensation. How is he not a notable person? This is my first article, it took a long time and research, and I don't know who or what I could write about that hasn't been written about yet. I found Matthew and assumed he was perfect since he is notable in my eyes. Read all the articles. Check out his social media following. I will be waiting for your reply. Thanks! CCFT Historian (talk) 14:48, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
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After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
 * Backlog status

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


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Sorry for the edit clash Maitland Jones Jr.
I was editing the article at the same time and thus may have overwritten your edits. Please try again. Malaiya (talk) 01:05, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * All good, thanks for letting me know! — Mainly 01:54, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello , Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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Recent rollbacks
Were your recent rollbacks e.g.   intentional? They don't look like it, and since they were all in the same minute I wonder if you misclicked somewhere? the wub "?!"  13:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, my cat was on my desk and while I knew he had done something I wasn't sure what. I have a plugin for Firefox that opens multiple links at once and he must have successfully rolled-back a bunch of pages by activating it. Thank you for catching the mistake. — Mainly 14:06, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries. Those pesky paws! Thanks for fixing. the wub "?!"  14:12, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello , The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day. won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
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Sorry for the watchlist notifications!
Hello! I just wanted to give you a preliminary "sorry" for the watchlist notifications you might get flooded with. I'm working through the novel categories adding cover images and I noticed that you've created a not-insignificant amount of book articles, so if a bunch of them get flagged in your watchlist it's probably because I'm adding those images to the infoboxes. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)Talk to Me! 17:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello , Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by  and  with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

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Re: Madame Georges Charpentier and Her Children
Just a note to say that I'm going to try and expand Madame Georges Charpentier and Her Children. You're welcome to make whatever changes you want, of course, and to help in any way. Please feel free to change it around as you prefer. Viriditas (talk) 09:41, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Very nice work & thank you for letting me know! I'll definitely take a look. — Mainly 13:27, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There is a lot more to add. Ideally, I would like to add an image of Billy Porter's dress, but apparently that's only allowed on a single page. I'm also curious if there's a free image of Madame Charpentier's dress available, as there have been several different exhibitions that traveled around the world with the dresses from the paintings on view.  I think the material you originally added regarding fashion is fascinating and relevant and should be expanded in terms of its importance to the painting.  One of the things that isn't emphasized enough regarding Renoir is that he was not just a painter, he was deeply interested in fashion at the most basic level--his entire family was involved in the fashion industry at the level of the working class: "Renoir came from a family of tailors and dressmakers. His father was a tailor, his mother was a dressmaker, and his brother Victor was a tailor who married a dressmaker. Renoir's elder sister Maria Elisa was also a dressmaker. She married fashion illustrator Charles Leray in 1864." The other odd thing about Renoir that isn't mentioned all that much, is that even though he ran in liberal circles and many of his patrons were liberals, he was, in fact, a conservative.  From a modern perspective, I might attribute his political orientation to his poverty, struggle, and the incessant need to be recognized.  But the honest truth is he was an asshole in many respects.  I previously wrote about his regressive views here. Viriditas (talk) 08:36, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

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With your time and experience on WP, you should know by now what undo is and isn't used for. Reverting vandalism, unsourced and copyvio content, etc. are appropriate uses. Reverting your unsourced content back in after it was reverted out, (and then adding the sourcing with a second edit), is not, it's just a waste of time and little bit obnoxious. In the future, please just fix your edits with single edit and leave the reverting to when it's actually needed. Also, when changing or removing sourcing for an entry, please ensure that all the entry's data is still sourced. Thank you and have a nice day - w o lf  13:07, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hello MainlyTwelve, I removed some content you added to 2020s commercial real estate distress because it looked like you accidentally copy and pasted it from the source. Let me know if you have any questions. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 05:12, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Correct, that was a mistake! Thanks for getting rid of it. — Mainly 13:12, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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SBF
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Explain what you mean by factoid? Sam Bankman-Fried: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia

Are you referring to how it doesn't directly pertain to SBF but rather his company?

Thanks,

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A New Year's present for you
I see you're a fellow supporter of Jess Wade's regular articles; I noticed you do categories for many of them, as I try to add images. Anyway, I noticed on your user page you like Afaa M. Weaver, so I found a couple of free images for our article about him, which doesn't have one. Neither is ideal, but hopefully at least one will be better than nothing. Which would you prefer?

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 * I'll arbitrary put in the second one, I guess. --GRuban (talk) 14:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

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Your userpage says that you're open to New York City image requests...If you feel like it, it would be nice to have an image of OnPoint NYC. Thanks, Prezbo (talk) 12:30, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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Mary Ross Bell birth/death dates?
Hi, I was looking to see who did edits on Mary Ross Bell's Wikipedia page because they seem to have been conflated on VIAF via Wikidata with my grandmother Mary Jean Bell's VIAF record. I've notified VIAF but I'm trying to ensure we untangle the two. Those are my grandmother's death years and the years are uncited. I saw you did it with HotCat and I was wondering if it grabbed my grandmother's record from https://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n99262806.html. It looks like they live/d around the same times -- but I can't find any kind of obituary for Ross Bell. Ruthbrarian (talk) 19:46, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hello! Looks like user Jess Wade originally added that information to the article...you'd have to ask her where the dates came from. I added the categories with the year of birth & year of death, but I took that information from the top of the article. Hope this helps! — Mainly 19:51, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

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 * This is Architect Dave Carnivale; someone notified me that my Wikipedia page (which I've been proud to have for many years) has been suggested by someone to be deleted. I write to you because I've tried but cannot find out how to "join the discussion" and hope you will be kind enough to add my comments for me. Sounding immodest cannot be helped in listing why I should remain, forgive me. First, being the first architect in the world to have a website (affordablehouse.com) which made its debut March 15, 1996, becoming at the time the second book anywhere on Earth printed cover-to-cover on the internet (the site was simplified and revised around 2022 after having been "on the air" so-to-speak for a quarter century) is alone enough to warrant my page. Remember, in 1996 only 25k-30k websites were functioning at all; another 75k simply said "Under Construction." Secondly, in an 8 year federal case, pro se, which went to the Del. District Court ('Carnivale v. Staub' Civ.No.08-764-SLR), the U.S. Federal Circuit (Appeal from the U.S.Patent and Trademark Office,Trademark Trial and Appeal Board, in No. 92047553 'Staub v. Carnivale) and the Third Circuit (Civil Action 1:08-cv-00764-SLR) I brought trademark law, specifically the 1948 Lanham Act regarding trademark protections into the computer age. The case is now cited throughout the country and established that tiny alterations in domain names are insufficient to protect against claims of trademark infringement.
 * In turning to my page I see a few inaccuracies which have crept in over the years; my projects now number more than 700 across the U.S. (not 500) and my book is now self published rather than published by BookSurge. Having practiced for nearly a half century (not quite but getting close) and having won nearly every preservation award there is in N.Y.C. (I am a very traditional architect with a strong interest in preserving historic architecture) I am not unknown and am as much an architect as any of those listed under 'American Architects' - and on Staten Island, a place of 500,000 people, I can say that I am fairly well known. I do not know why someone moved me from "People from Staten Island" to "Artists from Staten Island"- that is inaccurate in that I am an architect, a retired college professor, a preservationist and an author - and as you likely know, architects, while they should be artistic in nature, are part historians, part engineers, part mathematicians and part businessmen too - putting me in the limited 'artists' category is simply inaccurate. I see someone called my page a "Puff Piece" which does not reflect that I was the first pioneer of a major profession on the internet, and, acting pro se for 8 years in federal court, I altered trademark law regarding the internet. For these reasons, I ask that you might be kind enough to enter my comments into the discussion for me, since I haven't been able to figure out how to do that. I may send this same message to another editor or two (if I can figure out how!). bt until then, I thank you in advance, Sincerely yours, David Carnivale 2603:7000:6E3B:C199:B1A5:F394:7F02:6A17 (talk) 03:41, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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