User talk:Maisiemoo12

Speedy deletion nomination of Until Autumn


A tag has been placed on Until Autumn requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band or musician, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, you can place a request here. Pseudonymous Rex (talk) 07:29, 17 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Hello. I saw your post on the article's talk page. For articles to be included in Wikipedia, they should meet the general notability guideline. Basically, the subject of the article should have received significant coverage in independent reliable sources. The group's Facebook, SoundCloud, and iTunes pages are not considered independent of the subject. The notability criteria for musicians and ensembles lists some situations in which it is likely that the subject is notable. Pseudonymous Rex (talk) 08:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Moved to your userspace
I came across the article for Until Autumn since it was up for speedy deletion. The issue here is that while you state that the band is overwhelmingly notable, there are no sources to verify that this is the case. Sources that would show notability would be things that would be reliable and verifiable, such as the band getting coverage in an Australian newspaper or reviews from a notable music outlet. Blog entries, fan pages, or reviews on places such as Amazon aren't usable as reliable sources. I have more on things like this on this page that goes over this in more depth. One thing to note though, is that popularity doesn't equate out to notability here on Wikipedia. A band can have a fan following, yet still not pass notability guidelines for bands.

Since you do seem to want to work on the article, I'm moving it to your userspace. What this means is that it won't be in the mainspace, which will allow you to work on it without any immediate fear of deletion. It can be deleted, but it would have to either be abandoned for more than six months or be extremely promotional. I'll try to see if I can help find sources, but I can't guarantee that I'll be able to do it tonight. In any case, you can find the article at User:Maisiemoo12/Until Autumn. In its current state it won't pass notability guidelines if you try to move it back over before it's established that it passes WP:BAND, but you will be able to edit it freely. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Another thing to note is that not all awards are overwhelmingly notable enough to keep on that basis alone, so while I do have a source from Stuff that shows the band won a rock contest that award isn't enough to keep the article as a whole. Also, facebook isn't usable as a reliable source. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:05, 17 June 2013 (UTC)