User talk:Mako

Hello there Mako, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit How does one edit a page and experiment at Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Naming conventions. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Help or add a question to the Village pump. MB 14:08 15 May 2003 (UTC)

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When adding an infobox, please include all parameters as this makes future maintenance easier. Infobox VG has it's usage listed on it's page for easy copy & pasting. Hope this helps! Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 01:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Shopping Mall articles
Hi, you recently voted to keeep the article Macarthur Square. Could you please suggest something that could be added to the article to make it notable compared to all the other articles for shopping malls on Wikipedia? I ask this because I cannot see what makes one shopping centre notable compared to the one in the next suburb. Not every house has an article, why should every shopping centre? Thanks, I hope to implement some of your suggestions. I am happy to conduct a reasonable amount of web-based investigation to implement some of your thoughts. --Garrie 05:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Garrie. Since I made that vote I came to the same conclusion as you: there's nothing notable about a shopping centre that has the same range of shops as the shopping centre in every other suburb (and don't give me any ideas about railway stations...) So I've merged a couple of shopping centre articles into their suburb's article to test the waters, so to speak. I'm hesitant to merge any more though until some sort of consensus on these type of articles is reached, and obviously am also reluctant to add info to an article that I don't think should exist.--Mako 07:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I note that you took up my suggestion re merge Shopping Malls in Sydney with the List of Shopping Centres in Australia.
 * I hope you confirmed every entry on the now defunct page was also on the list of... page?


 * Although, I gotta say, I hope they all go, unless they are in fact, notable (I'm sure some are? but couldn't say which ones are).


 * It's more likely that at some "seemingly notable" shopping centre, there are outlets which are notable - eg, the Hoyt's cinema with the biggest screen, most screen, most seats, etc.
 * --Garrie 04:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I checked that all were in the main article before merging. It looked like Jackp had simply cut and pasted from the Australia article into the Sydney anyway. As for which might be notable, my guess is Miranda (first big mall) and Parramatta (current biggest), and obviously the QVB (due to history and architecture). There's an interesting proposal over at WP:LOCAL about the appropriateness of articles on places of local interest, with some good suggestions for dealing with these. Hopefully it gets some support.--Mako 04:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

More shopping centres
Please see my suggestion that All Westfields are the same, and my proposed new article, Westfields in Australia (work in progress! (tm)). --Garrie 05:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

CityRail Codes
They are used by CityRail as a reference to a particular station. They seem to be more internally used nowadays, but they aren't just internal. They have been used on timetables, for example as destination codes for trains where the destination for a train is not on that particular line. The codes should be kept - I note that the article isn't finished either. (JROBBO 10:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC))

A compromise
Hi Mako. Would you support the deletion of both Easties and Westies? Failing that would you support keeping both? Both articles are magnets for derogatory comments. --WikiCats 04:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There's nothing at all supporting the "Eastie" article, and after some thought (and a quick google) I find little verifiable information supporting the content of the "Westie" article beyond a simple definition. So I've argued for deletion of each on their AFD pages. -- Mako 05:20, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

New Zealand
I noticed you recently edited New Zealand. You may be interested in New Zealander-Israeli relations which I recently started. Also, I noticed you misspelled "New Zealander" on your userpage. Respectfully, Republitarian 22:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for spotting that ... it had only been there about 15 months. That looks like an interesting article, but I'm not too familiar with the subject so probably have little to add to it. Mako 01:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

AfD Sydney Bus Routes
I note that you were successful in your nomination for deletion of the Sydney Bus Routes pages. I've nominated List of bus routes in London to be nominated using the same logic, hope you will be supportive. MrHarper 12:49, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Comments regarding merger of Westfields articles
Hi I understand what you are saying regarding the Westfields articles. Personally I think we are in the same camp, that is none of them are notable and they should all be deleted. This involves the AFD process, and routinely even minor independant shopping centres are not supported for deletion. Having observed this process, my concession was to merge a large number of articles together. Over time non-encyclopedic information (such as directory style information) could be removed until some planned layout comes to fruition. Issues such as Parramatta Westfield being the first shopping centre in Australia to reach X square meters is approaching encyclopaedic though, and it should be able to be kept. As should verified information that Westfields Bondi Junction is the only location in Australia for several US-based high-end retail chains (which I understand is the case). The concept for this article is to end in some middle ground between The Westfield Group and Westfield Kotara (which actually gives meaningful information about the development of the site rather than attempting to be a current directory). This article would provide a single article to redirect the plethora of Westfields articles to. I understand and agree that the best place for information about a "shopping centre in Emerton" is the article Emerton, New South Wales - maybe a section #Shopping Centre, maybe as a subheading within a #Commercial and Retail Developments.

If you are suggesting a series of merges between Westfield Suburb and Suburb, New South Wales then I guess I would support that suggestion. But this proposed article would contain some information which is not covered by those mergers. Garrie 22:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Sydney Bus routes Deletion Review
Hi Mako - thanks for supporting us for the deletion review on Sydney Bus routes. I know you didn't agree with us, but we clearly didn't have a consensus on that deletion and it's not fair that the deletion stay that way while there isn't a consensus. There has been another development, however. Although three editors plus the nominator nominated for deletion, the deletion still got endorsed for some reason. Would you mind restating your views at the new review (listed under the log on August 21)? That would be great. (JROBBO 04:54, 21 August 2006 (UTC))

Afd: Sydney Bus routes
I quote:

Bus route articles My afd nomination seems to have stirred up a hornets nest

Is there a barnstar for understatements?? ;) I am in full agreement. This is in the same vein as what I want to do with Westfeilds, shopping centres, etc. I thought the London ones were gone already but not yet...

Some of the information is starting to appear on the articles for the operators. Don't know if that's good or bad but it's better than a dedicated articel just for bus routes. Garrie 04:39, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Bus Routes
Would you have a problem with the bus route list being put (in the future) as part of the Buses in Sydney article (as per the TransLink_%28South_East_Queensland%29_services article?) No one seems to have a problem with that part... There's no doubt this list needed some cleaning, but in that article at least the list is not shown so it doesn't make the article long, it's integrated into the main article, and performs an important function. (JROBBO 05:09, 23 August 2006 (UTC))


 * The issue isn't where the information is, the issue is that detailed information about specific bus routes doesn't belong in Wikipedia. That's why I don't support merging it. If the information was valid for Wikipedia I'd think it would be better in the format it is now, where it might be easier to manage than if it was within frames within the one article. --Mako 05:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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Photo request
Hi! Are you willing to fulfill a photo request? If so, why not photograph the Qantas headquarters in Mascot, NSW? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 15:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Sydney meetup
Hi, I got your name from this list, and thought you might be interested in a meetup in Sydney at the Alexandria Hotel tomorrow. I hope you can join us. Sorry for the late notice. --99of9 (talk) 11:38, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Flying Lab Software


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Nomination of Flying Lab Software for deletion
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Chevron Corporation
Hi Mako. A PR editor at Chevron made a mess of things by adding copyrighted material to the article, but I do note that it is the third largest corporation in the US and has a neglected article. I was wondering if you were interested in tag-teaming it (slowly, over-time, bit-by-bit). Thought we would make a good tag-team as a corporate goon and an environmentalist. As a matter of personal opinion, I tend to blame everything on the consumer (ie. if you want fewer oil spills, you will need to pay more at the pump to fund the safety features - if you don't want bribed politicians, stop electing them). CorporateM (Talk) 15:48, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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