User talk:Maksideas

"Location information"
Please stop adding "further location information" like you did on many articles on Croatian footballers. The standing consensus is to list place of birth with the sovereign country at time of birth (e.g. "Bjelovar, SFR Yugoslavia" or "Moscow, Soviet Union" or "Prague, Czechoslovakia"). Optionally, the sovereign country's subdivision can be mentioned (e.g. "Bjelovar, SR Croatia, SFR Yugoslavia" or "Moscow, Russian SFSR, Soviet Union").  Timbouctou ( talk ) 20:41, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

I have no issue with adding SR to Croatia edits but do have an issue with you changing my edits by DELETING the Croatia reference and not just inserting SR where appropriate. You seem to be a stickler for historical accuracy, yet reprimand ME for adding information that is merely trying to enlighten those readers who are not familiar with the pages and their historical content. So I respectfully ask that you not continue your quest to limit my involvement in this site and make ADDITIONS as necessary, NOT deletions to my edits. Thank you.
 * It is up to you to familiarize yourself with what longstanding consensus is before going on an editing spree and inserting stuff or formats that you feel is appropriate. That kind of behaviour looks like vandalism and is dealt with accordingly.  Timbouctou ( talk ) 21:42, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

If you are referring to technical issues with editing, I agree, as I have discussed with others already. However, your draconian response reeks of repression not assistance. "Consensus" is your way of saying, don't challenge the status quo. I wish to reiterate, in hindsight, I agree with you that I should have added the SR. That is not the issue. It is your response that is at the heart of the matter for me. You can't deny the fact that SR Croatia existed and as such has historical merit for being identified in the pages. I believe that is what bothers you, not my tech faux pas. Cheers!
 * There are literally thousands of articles you could have looked up to see what was the standing consensus on this. Editing dozens of articles against it and replacing perfectly good wikilinks with broken red links reeks of vandalism. And btw, we used to have SR Croatia in most articles listed, but it was found that it attracts huge amounts of vandalism. Vandalism which looks just like your editing looks like, with drive by editors who persistently keep deleting the "SR" prefix. That's exactly how we got to the format which we use today.  Timbouctou ( talk ) 22:07, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

You wish to portray me as a vandal. I am nothing like that. I am merely standing up for recognition of my nation and its accomplishments. Your argument sounds like a rationalization, but I will not be silenced. Denying historical facts for convenience is not an acceptable solution. I suppose we could use numerous historical examples to show how denying facts and suppression doesn't stop the truth from being known. Maybe If editing were not allowed to non-members, that may prevent those who do abuse the system from acting in a militant fashion. Cheers!Maksideas (talk) 22:39, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Let's all just take a moment to breathe here. The main issue is that your edits unnecessarily broke the links to the actual birth places, because we don't have redundant redirects such as Čakovec, Croatia in place - it's simply Čakovec. Please avoid such formatting blunders (just use the 'Show preview' button before saving so you can see that you didn't break anything), use the contemporaneous nomenclature (SR Croatia), and everything will be fine. --Joy &#91;shallot&#93; (talk) 23:54, 24 June 2014 (UTC)