User talk:Malnz

Speedy deletion nomination of Jumpflex
Hello Malnz,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Jumpflex for deletion, because it seems to be promotional, rather than an encyclopedia article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

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 VickKiang  (talk)  20:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022
Hello Malnz. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Malnz. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Seraphimblade Talk to me 20:47, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Seraphimblade, thanks, I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for putting up the Jumpflex article. However they are successful New Zealand entrepeneurs who are friends, so felt they should have a page. I'm not sure how to make the page more factual, but can try? Malnz (talk) 20:54, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Some more feedback: your article has a lot of non-independent external links, which falls under LINKSPAM. Your article uses consistent Puffery, and doesn't follow WP:NPOV, a neutral point of view. Even if you write neutrally and objectively, I doubt that this topic is notable, see WP:NCORP. There some reviews on a product from the company, 1, 2, 3, though many of these are quite brief listicles that discuss the product not the company, which are insufficient IMO for the company notability guideline WP:NCORP, as per WP:PRODUCTREV, Reviews that narrowly focus on a particular product or function without broader context (e.g. review of a particular meal without description of the restaurant as a whole) do not count as significant sources- this is the case here with the references I linked. Thanks!  VickKiang  (talk)  21:03, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, now I'm more than a bit confused. At Talk:Jumpflex, you stated We'd welcome any guidance on making this page more factual., and Jumpflex would like guidance on additional information we can add to the page to make it more factual and detailed. If you're not affiliated with the company, who is "we", and how is it you know what "Jumpflex would like"? Seraphimblade Talk to me 21:10, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks - just acting on behalf of when writing the article, hence the 'we'. Thanks VickKiang for the feedback. I'm still confused how the Vuly article is alright (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuly_Play) - is it just pointing to a number of external articles that reference them (i.e. awards etc). If so, I'd be happy to create a more externally linked piece on Jumpflex, removing puffery and internal links? Malnz (talk) 21:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a textbook example of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. You can improve that article or nominate it for deletion, but this is usually not an effective argument.
 * Basically, for Jumpflex, you need to disclose a conflict of interest if you have one, and provide three refs here per WP:THREE that show that this company received significant coverage in reliable, independent, and secondary sources per WP:NCORP before you try to write an article again If you could provide three decent refs, go to Article Wizard and submit your draft for review, where there's less a chance it would be speedily deleted if it fails WP:NPOV (provided that you give three sources per above). However, continued promotion directly in mainspace would result in the article continuously speedily deleted, since Wikipedia is not for advertising or promotion. Many thanks!  VickKiang  (talk)  21:27, 27 October 2022 (UTC)