User talk:Manchester Musicians Collective

August 2023

 * The page User:Manchester Musicians Collective/sandbox appeared to be use of Wikipedia to host a page on behalf of an organisation, which isnot the purpose of user space pages, so it has been deleted.
 * The username of this account indicates that it is used to represent an organisation or a company, but Wikipedia policy is that an account is for an individual person, and must not represent any company or other organisation, nor may it be shared by more than one person. You should therefore not continue to edit from this account. An account name like "Anne Smith at Mega Trading Company", indicating the company you work for, but also indicating that the account is for an individual person at that company, would be acceptable, and would have the advantage of transparency.


 * Whatever username you use, you should be aware that Wikipedia's guidelines on conflict of interest discourage you from editing articles about subjects you have a personal connection to, such as a business you work for. If there are factual corrections you think should be made to such an article, you may propose them on the article's talk page, putting the tag there, to ask for a neutral, uninvolved, editor to assess your request and decide whether to make the change to the article. Also, if editing Wikipedia is part of work for which you are paid, you must declare that fact, and state precisely what your position is.


 * Finally, please bear in mind that, no matter what username you use and how clearly you declare your interest, editing which appears to be promotional or non-neutral is unacceptable under Wikipedia policy. JBW (talk) 11:52, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You have a page London Musicians Collective and you also have pages glfor bands
 * The Manchester Musicians Collective
 * Was set up as a charity and funded by the Arts Council in 1977 it no longer exists as a collective but is of historical interest because of its impact on Manchester music at that time Past members who started their musical career as members (there was no joining fee you just turned up and said you wzntef to play )included joy division (new order ) The Fall who played there first gig at a meeting and
 * Mick Hucknall of simply red.
 * how then can I add this important historical group to Wikipedia please 86.8.152.203 (talk) 14:17, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have restored the page and renamed it to Draft:Manchester Musicians Collective, to make it clear that it is a draft for an article. You may work on it there and submit it for review as an article for creation when you think it is ready, if you like. (See Articles for creation for further information.) However, I think it only fair to warn you that doing so is likely to be unsuccessful, for two reasons:
 * My very brief searches failed to find convincing evidence that the organisation satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines, and if it doesn't then no article, no matter how well written, is likely to survive. No amount of editing an article can change the notability of the subject of the article. There may be evidence of notability which my brief search didn't find, but frankly I wouldn't bet on it.
 * Creating a new article from scratch is actually the most difficult of all tasks for a new Wikipedia editor to do, because it requires a fairly good grasp of Wikipedia policies, guidelines, and style, which comes only from experience. My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. Obviously that advice may not appeal to you if you are only here to write about the Manchester Musicians Collective, and have no interest in contributing in other areas, but you may like to consider it.
 * Since from what you say the Manchester Musicians Collective no longer exists, the conflict of interest guideline presumably doesn't apply to you. However, it would still be a better idea to use a username which doesn't make it look as though you are editing on behalf of an organisation, to avoid the risk of problems caused by editors misunderstanding. I can change your account's name for you if you like, but since there is so far scarcely any editing from the account, and therefore little reason to want to keep the editing history attached to the account, you may prefer to just create a new account, which will be quicker. JBW (talk) 16:22, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you
 * I misunderstood and thought my account name had to be the same as article name
 * I do have another account where I have been practicing editing a bit so It will perhaps be best to use that one
 * I will continue to practice 86.8.152.203 (talk) 18:26, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Could you change my user nane for me please then I can come back to the article in due course when i have learnt more
 * Thank you again for your help 86.8.152.203 (talk) 18:31, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Let me know what new username you would like, and if there are no problems I will rename your account. To minimise the risk of wasting time by choosing a username which is not available, when you have chosen a name, check for availability as follows. Click on this link; type your proposed new username in the box labelled "Username", and click on "View user information". If the name you have chosen is already taken, you will see a list of information about the user account concerned, and you will have to think again. If the username has not been taken, you will see a message saying There is no global account for "(whatever the name is)". Unfortunately, even if the name has not been taken there are sometimes reasons why it can't be used, but that check will make it much less likely that there will be problems. Once your account is renamed, if you try to log in under your old username you will get a message telling you that the username or password is wrong, which might make you think that you have lost access to your account. You can in fact simply log in with the new username, and the same password as before. When you have read this message and chosen a new username, post a message here telling me that you are ready for the name change to go ahead. In that message include the text, and also make sure you sign the same message with ~. I will then be automatically notified of your message. Please post that message logged into your account, because I can't rename an account on the basis of a request that might not have come from the owner of the account.  JBW (talk) 19:03, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Manchester Musicians Collective
Hello, Manchester Musicians Collective. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Manchester Musicians Collective, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 16:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Manchester Musicians Collective


Hello, Manchester Musicians Collective. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Manchester Musicians Collective".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 18:42, 9 February 2024 (UTC)