User talk:Mandailing rules

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Please stop adding unsourced content. This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Juxlos (talk) 06:36, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Have you any idea why...
Your edits are being reverted? It would be good to see in english - what you think is happening, otherwise you might see yourself blocked... JarrahTree 09:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

July 2019
Hello. This is a message to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions, such as the edit you made to Mandailing people, did not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please take some time to familiarise yourself with our policies and guidelines. You can find information about these at our welcome page which also provides further information about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. If you only meant to make test edits, please use the sandbox for that. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you may leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. Austronesier (talk) 10:56, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

The editing rules
I believe that wikipedia has a positive contribution on providing and sharing information to everyone. But there are some mistakes or i can say, (if i may) "outdate" information that need to be "updated" and taken seriously because they would be misleading millions of people out there. Therefore as a true and genuine Mandailingnese, i would like to inform you what need to be updated, and not reverting the old information that will confuse everyone because it is not a wise solution. Mandailing rules (talk) 15:10, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Nothing is more confusing and misleading than to replace numbers (blowing up population figures by 100–6600%!) without a source. As long as you keep on inserting unsourced information your edits will be reverted. Providing us with the source of your data will be the only "wise solution" here. Being "true and genuine" Mandailing does not automatically turn you into a demographic authority. –Austronesier (talk) 15:34, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

austronesier
Are you indonesian or australian? Or mix of both? I ask you this question so i know exactly who i am communicating with. Look, the figures that you upload haven't changed for nearly 30 years (it was the data back in 1990) and now (2019). If you say that i'm blowing up the figures by 100 %, then tell me why do the figures remain the same from 1990 - 2019. Are you saying that all Mandailingnese are now living in a "pause life"? That's what i meant by "confusing and misleading". And where did you get the data from? Are you just making it up? Mandailing rules (talk) 16:00, 24 July 2019 (UTC)


 * There are more nationalities on this planet apart from Indonesian and Australian. I am just one of millions of editors contributing to Wikipedia at one time or another, just like you. You miss the point. These numbers are not "my" numbers. They were there before you started editing them, and the source of data is explicitly mentioned. If you have access to these sources you can add the year which is represented by these numbers ("in 19xx or 20xx"), to give readers a clearer picture that these are not recent figures. BUT: replacing "old" data with new figures without citing an explicit source simply won't help, and is not in accordance with the standards of Wikipedia. If you have valid figures, you certainly have valid sources. If not, you're just doing guess work, and that's "confusing and misleading". –Austronesier (talk) 16:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)


 * I second Austronesier in this case. I've already mentioned this previously in other similar editing made by Mandailing rules. The problem is you kept on changing the population figure without updating the cited source. Cite a credible and reliable source to the population statistics and it will be just fine. Also, you have been warned by other users on the same matter a couple of times. -Jeblat (talk) 14:07, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

July 2019
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Mandailing people. You have persistently made the same changes without updating/citing any reliable sources, even after you have been warned/informed by other users on several occasions. -Jeblat (talk) 14:15, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

austronesier
That's the point. You said those numbers are not your numbers and the source of data is explicitly mentioned. My question is: whose numbers are those then? And you know what, the source of data is not mentioned at all. No one can tell how the first editor got those numbers without valid source. He didn't even cite it on the references. North Sumatra 1,035,000, West Sumatra 214,000 Riau 210,000 Jakarta 80,000 Malaysia 30,000 So i call this "Ghost Figures". Do you have any idea how confusing & misleading this data is? You should be grateful when someone is telling that there's something wrong with the data but you started blaming others instead. We want you (all of you, the editors) to be professional with your job. Do not just take this job as you like without knowing and understanding the big responsibility that comes along with it. Be aware of what you're doing because your editing is being observed by millions of readers out there. And be more creative in order to satisfy the readers who read your articles because i believe you will not read a newspaper every morning that shows you the information that goes back nearly 30 years ago over and over again. Mandailing rules (talk) 22:50, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * If you contest these figures, or the validity of the source, you can delete them, or add an appropriate tag like   or   . But: do not replace them with unsourced and invented (that's what your word 'creative' implies) data. –Austronesier (talk) 05:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

August 2019
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Mandailing people, you may be blocked from editing. -Jeblat (talk) 02:12, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Mandailing people. You seemed to be persistent in repeating the same edits despite other users have tried to explain and guide you regarding changing/editing information without any reliable sources. Your recent editing Special:Diff/910909454 by changing the year of the census (without updating the source) although it has been cited, may appear to be trolling too. If you still do not understand what has been communicated to you by other users, please ask for clarification. Thank you. -Jeblat (talk) 14:13, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. N.J.A.  &#124; talk  14:56, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

April 2020
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Mandailing people, you may be blocked from editing. Changing of information without updating new sources have appear to contradict the earlier cited sources. -Jeblat (talk) 06:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you engage in subtle vandalism on Wikipedia, as you did at Mandailing people. Changing of information without updating new sources have appear to contradict the earlier cited sources. -Jeblat (talk) 03:16, 17 April 2020 (UTC) Stop trying to change information (like numbers and dates) without explanation.

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Daniel Case (talk) 04:13, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

May 2020
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Mandailing people. Despite many warnings and 2 blocks, you've continued to be persistent in changing of information without updating new sources and have appeared to contradict the earlier cited sources. -Jeblat (talk) 03:37, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

You have been blocked temporarily from editing to prevent you from persistently adding unsourced or poorly sourced content. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Alexf(talk) 12:58, 6 May 2020 (UTC)