User talk:Mandarax/Archive 11

DYK for Henri-Edmond Cross
Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

diff coloring
From the Signpost

In addition to working on the bug reports that flood in after virtually all large deployments (of which some 23 are currently marked as requiring a fix before 1.19 is released to external sites), developers have also been looking afresh at the issue of changing the default diff colouring (first covered in the Signpost back in December). MediaWiki 1.19 had headlined with accessibility improvements in this area, the benefits of which seemed to have ensured that the change survived a series of long discussions when it was first proposed. On the change's final deployment, however, observers noted that decreases in the contrast ratio offset the improvement for colour-blind users, forcing the change to be reverted (wikitech-l mailing list). A third design is now being trialled; nevertheless, the bold blue-and-yellow-bordered design is almost certain to provoke a fresh round of discussions which it will have to survive if it is to make it onto Wikimedia wikis. Bgwhite (talk) 04:36, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Short version. Try User:Cacycle/wikEdDiff for some temporary relief.
 * Long version. Finally found why my user scripts were not loading.  I had wikEdDiff enabled under My Preferences -> Gadgets.  I noticed this because you mentioned the diffs and I was going to show you wikEdDiff, but it wasn't working for me.  Disabled wikEdDiff from gadgets, but added it in via vector.js... my user scripts and wikEdDiff now work again.  There was also a script in vector.js that was also causing things to bomb.
 * I looked at your monobook.js and stole the page size script and drop down menu script. I like those.  Did you know twinkle and friendly were now one program?  Did you know there is a gadget for displaying local time in people's signatures? Bgwhite (talk) 07:02, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Just noticed this under Gadgets/Appearances. An option to "Display diffs with the new yellow/blue color scheme that improves accessibility." Bgwhite (talk) 07:09, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the Signpost and wikEdDiff info. I actually was aware of wikEdDiff; I've had it watchlisted for a long time to remind me if I ever wanted to try it. Thanks for informing me of the Preferences option. I'll see how I like it. I think I'm not crazy about the colors. The main thing I like is the highlighted background of the changes. I think I prefer AWB's diffs, except, of course, for the mind-numbingly horrible bug which causes the diff window to stretch instead of wrapping the text. I'm not sure how helpful prosesize will be for you unless you intend to do more with DYK and if you do, you'll probably want DYKcheck either in place of or in addition to prosesize. The drop down menus are invaluable. Oh, one thing I noticed you copied along with the drop down menus is the shortcut to Article blamer. I'm glad you did. The link was to an expired account. I had assumed that when someone revived the program, there would be a redirect from the old broken one, and I was patiently waiting for that to happen. But since you added it, I decided to go check, and discovered a working version, which is not redirected to from the old one. This extremely useful tool is currently at http://toolserver.org/~tparis/blame/ Yes, I know that Twinkle and Friendly were united. But I need some of the old files for an enhancement which I use. And I prefer to keep my settings in my monobook rather than in a special Twinkle preferences page. (Yes, I'm sure there are some obsolete parameters, but they're not doing any harm.) I used the local time gadget until a change was made which caused it be unusable for me, as every time I went to a page with a lot of signatures, I'd get a notice from the browser saying that a script was taking too long. So I saved the state of the script prior to that change, and that's what I've used ever since. I'm glad you were able to get your scripts working again! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:47, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll do an occasional DYK, so now I don't have to hunt down the program to calculate page size. Hmmm, better look at DYKcheck.
 * AWB wrapping text... Have you tried right-clicking in the edit space?  The first option that shows up is "word wrap".
 * I've never had any errors with the local time gadget.
 * The gadget to "Display diffs with the new yellow/blue color scheme that improves accessibility" does highlight the background. I sure do like Mediawiki's third design option. I can't wait for that.  Thank you for your incredible, interesting and intrusive information. Bgwhite (talk) 21:44, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * AWB wraps the edit box fine. I was talking about the diff area, which gets annoyingly stretched when there's something such as an extra-long URL. I first requested that this be fixed over two years ago. Yes, I like the "third design" too. Sorry, didn't realize I was being intrusive.... M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I get to say the best "in" word, except "not" doesn't apply "Sorry, didn't realize I was being intrusive...."  It's inconceivable that you are insanely intrusive. Bgwhite (talk) 22:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe, I can be dense sometimes.... Don't forget to fix your link to Article blamer. In case you're not familiar with it, it finds instances where specified text was added to an article. I guess the name comes from the fact that you can find out who to blame for adding something. Where I find it useful is if I or someone else discovers some old vandalism or bad information in an article, I can use the tool to find when it was added and determine if additional vandalism perpetrated at the same time needs reverting. Before I discovered the tool, I would sometimes do a tedious manual binary-type search of the history to narrow it down before finally just going through diff by diff. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:51, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I couldn't get the links configured form your monobook.js (the four including Article blamer) to ever show up. I'm using vector and I have a feeling it only works in monobook.  In any case, I've modified the code to include Article blamer and 6 other links into the page tab.  I just have to add pagesize and the DYKtool doohickey and there will be nothing on the left sidebar I need.  I can then add a script to remove the left sidebar and have more room to play with.
 * If you want to grab it and customize it for yourself, it is located at: User:Bgwhite/cactions.js.  Do a search for "grok" and that is the section I added.  You will also need to grab User:Bgwhite/cactions-languages.js and change the cactions code to point to your copy. Bgwhite (talk) 01:44, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I may check it out. Yet another thing we "brothers separated at birth" seem to share is our fondness for customizing our tools. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  09:39, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * That misunderstanding on your friend's part could be hazardous if said friend were dealing with inflammable materials. (Feel free to format this in some more suitable style.) Lady  of  Shalott  00:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe. And your formatting is perfectly appropriate. I do complicate things when I use footnotes, yet it does serve to simplify the main text. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  09:39, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ellen Gallagher
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Mandarax, thanks for this and the previous one--the other Delacroix, who looks so gaunt and cool with that cigarette dangling from his mouth. You are putting a mark on the Wiki. Hey, I have a totally unrelated and totally geeky question. Since a day or two ago, double-clicking on a title (so I can copy and paste it somewhere) adds a space at the of the text--any ideas? Drmies (talk) 16:12, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Oh, I hope you don't mind that I refer to Gallagher as American rather than Dutch. As you may recall from a note I left for "99" on your talk page, I originally planned on using that self-portrait for the Cross DYK but then decided to pander to the lowest common denominator and use a nude instead. I was neither surprised nor disappointed that the person who promoted the hook substituted the image. The portrait was bolder, looked better as a DYK thumbnail, and illustrated the hook better. Still, one day I'll visit an alternate timeline in which the nude is used, and I'll see which gets more hits (in that unfortunate graveyard slot). Neither image was really representative of his work; the portrait was from a brief, early Realist period rather than the Neo-Impressionism he was known for, and the nude was, well, a nude, whereas he mostly did landscapes. For me (Firefox, monobook), the double clicking works the same as it always has: if I do it on a single-word title or the last word of a multi-word title, I get it with no space; otherwise there is a trailing space. Sorry if I've misunderstood or been otherwise unhelpful. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I've never had a trailing space before. Odd. I do remember that nude note. When are you going to put a nude self-portrait on your user page? The Worshipers of the Mandarax have a right to know. Drmies (talk) 00:35, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Ooops!
My dear Mandarax, I was going to leave you a note, one that said "hey, how's it going" or words to that effect, and that note was to be edit 100,000, dedicated to you. However, I was obviously not paying attention, and so I have to dedicate edit number 100,013 to you. Will you settle for that? Thanks for your help in so many of the ones before this one. Drmies (talk) 04:45, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow! Congratulations! I'm so honored to have been number 100,013! Thanks for your continuing, tireless contributions to Wikipedia. And, to put this into perspective, I note that you did it without using things such as AWB, so your achievement is even more impressive. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I did consume copious amounts of beer, of course. And I use Twinkle, so I'm cheating in many ways. I used to copy and paste and fill out all those citation templates by hand, and I did all the vandalism warnings the same way. Old ways are not always the best ways, though the skills come in handy when I'm slumming as an IP. Drmies (talk) 16:03, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I certainly wouldn't put tools such as that in the same class as AWB or Huggle (which I've never used). Twinkle merely makes it a little easier to do what you would do anyways, whereas those others automate things in such a way that you're able to do much more than you ever would be capable of doing without 'em. Anyways, thanks again for all you do around here. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:07, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
 * So, I fulfill part of the requirement for Lord High Togneme Vicarus, but of course I don't have 12 years under my belt (so I'm really just a lousy Most Pluperfect Labutnum). Is that why you still list yourself as Auspicious Looshpah? I think the "and" should be an "or", making my a LHTV and you a Lord Gom. Drmies (talk) 03:35, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I see there is discussion on Wikipedia talk:Service awards. Drmies (talk) 03:39, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I gotta say, I find that whole page rather amusing (especially the bulleted oppposes). However, this Labutnum of the Encyclopedia does find it rather odd that I could have a higher rank than you, though I have fewer than half the number of edits you do. Lady  of  Shalott  04:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

<--I'm watching a TV show: Southland. It's not bad. Drmies (talk) 03:10, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This "recommendation" comes from a person who was arguing over the fine points of Dance Moms today. Bgwhite (talk) 05:00, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Southland, eh? I saw the first episode when it premiered a few years ago, didn't like it, and never watched it again. Of course, I said the same thing about Battlestar Galactica, which some people say is their favorite show. Sill haven't seen Dance Moms. BTW, to those who've left a note here recently which I haven't responded to, know that I have read 'em and you may assume the appropriate response (LOL or whatever). I may eventually respond.... M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  09:01, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Signature
Thanks for notifying me about DYK and non-valid signature. Is this  Tigerboy1966   20:29, 11 March 2012 (UTC) OK now?
 * Yep. Thanks for taking care of it so quickly! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:34, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for cleaning up the quotes and parentheses on the DYK nominations I reviewed. Missed that part of the DYK hook part. :( So good on you for catching it. :)

LauraHale (talk) 22:06, 12 March 2012 (UTC) 
 * Thanks for the kitten, and you're welcome for my edits (those are little things which are very easy to miss, and I clean up a bunch of 'em every day). M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:34, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

A tamamushi for you!


Hello, thanks from me also for all the DYK tidying; you just gave me an edit conflict on the Tamamushi Shrine though! You removed the exfoliation wikilink - I agree that none is a perfect match, but together do they amount to something? In particular the loss of folia (or wings), weathering (or aging), and the process of the breaking up of particles... Don't particularly mind - but presumably only those who don't know what this word means will click here, and then might they gain something? Your call (and I can incorporate in my next expansion), Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 00:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the beautiful tamamushi! We almost always try to avoid links to disambiguation pages such as Exfoliation, and, as I mentioned in my edit summary and you concurred, none of the choices on that dab page appears especially appropriate. If you want to restore the link, I won't object or change it back. (But someone else might.) Another option would be to link to the Wikionary entry: exfoliation. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  02:21, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Signature
Thank you kindly for the tip! I will change it pronto. Cheers! Ocaasit 10:53, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  10:59, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

diff update
See the very end at this week's Signpost technology page. Bgwhite (talk) 06:40, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update. After using the new style for a while, I decided that I wasn't crazy about it, and I went back to the current default. I imagine I'll get used to the new one when it's the default (or else I'll explore other options). P.S. I hope you weren't jealous that I gave your arch-nemesis Drmies a barnstar! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:35, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Update. I've returned to the new version. Its practical advantages outweigh its aesthetic disadvantages. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  06:27, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, never thought Drmies as my arch-nemesis before. We both share the common bond of being worshipers of the great and mighty Mandarax.  But, I kind of like the ring to it.  I really like the new diff because I can actually make what was changed.   I have a hard time seeing small changes of one or two characters.  Changes also pop out.  Bgwhite (talk) 19:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I guess I was misinterpreting comments such as "Kill the Drmies!!!!".... Yes, as I mentioned when I brought up this whole diff subject, that's what I like about it too. It just didn't feel "comfortable" to me. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:59, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I'm already dead, so don't worry. Hey Mandarax, my thanks again for that lovely barnstar you gave me; even my wife appreciated it. Well made, and well placed. Drmies (talk) 22:20, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome (and thanks for the compliment about my barnstar aesthetics). I'm glad you and the Mrs. appreciated it. As you probably noticed, the image is by Paul Signac, friend and associate of two of "my" artists: Charles Angrand and Henri-Edmond Cross. I must confess that I initially considered awarding you an "off-the-shelf" barnstar, but I've never given out any of those before, and you certainly deserved better. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  01:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, and the image's title is The Demolisher, which is especially appropriate since your "stated predominant activity" apparently is deleting articles! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  01:27, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I saw that. I have to admit that I've deleted more (apparently) than I've written. Worse, Duke is about to lose. *Snif* Drmies (talk) 01:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/The Virginian (1929 film)
No idea why this happened, but this edit hid the images. -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  13:19, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, for any reason the images did not load in my browser when I wrote this message, but now the images are visible in my browser. I mistakenly thought it was because of your edit the images were not visible in my browser. Apology if I caused any inconvenience. -- Supernova Explosion   Talk  14:34, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Glad to see I didn't do anything to break it. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks again for the DYK clean up. I did learn from the last time that ' should be used near the hooked text. I missed the space before the question mark thing though and not sure how to handle multiple hooked text when nomming. :(

LauraHale (talk) 20:55, 22 March 2012 (UTC) 
 * Thanks for the kitten. Almost no one gets the apostrophes right. There is a subtle but discernible spacing difference between ' and `, although using either one is certainly better than just an apostrophe, which displays incorrectly. I don't know exactly what you mean about handling "multiple hooked text when nomming". I've seen you successfully nominate multiple articles in a hook....  M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Indiana–Kentucky rivalry
Hey! Regarding Template:Did you know nominations/Indiana–Kentucky rivalry, thanks for the advice. I've revised it.--YHoshua (talk) 21:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Looks much better. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Women's History Month
As we enter the final week of Women's History Month, I'd like to point out my continuing commitment to the cause: of the fifteen DYK articles which I've written, six of them have been about female artists. I just hope my most recent female artist nomination gets approved in time for April Fools' Day, to get her the wide readership exposure which she deserves. Besides, Janet Fish is especially appropriate for that day since it's "April Fish" day in some parts of the world. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:12, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Janet Fish
Hello! Your submission of Janet Fish at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Drmies (talk) 20:06, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reviewing the article. Your hook could work, but, as you suggested, I sought Crisco 1492's opinion of the original hook. I agree that the EL section is far from ideal, but it's frustrating to write an article about an artist, then being unable to actually show a bunch of her art; the least I can do is point readers to places where they can see some. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:36, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm strict. Also, I'm an abusive admin, haha. You know I'm getting emails? I'll look again to see if Crisco responded. BTW, thanks for your article contributions. You know we appreciate you as a gnome, now we can celebrate you as a writer. Maybe it's time for you to think of a nom de plume. Drmies (talk) 04:25, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm glad that you're strict. I wouldn't want the appearance of any kind of favoritism. Thanks again for the review. I was starting to have flashbacks about my previous hook that went two weeks without anyone even looking at it. That was fine, but this hook was on a deadline. Thanks, but I wouldn't celebrate me too much as a writer. Hmmmm.... I thought "Mandarax" was my nom de plume (nom de clavier?). Uh oh – you're getting emails? I hope they're not threatening or too abusive. (I notice you didn't mention this before you encouraged me to go for an RfA.) I often don't read the adminly messages on your talk page and I try to avoid reading AN[/I]; I did note, however that someone's calling for your desysopping. What fun! BTW... "metonymy"... nice word! I didn't know that one, although I was familiar with the similar "synecdoche". I've told people that it's a synecdoche when I refer to my GPS navigator by the name which the software gives to its American English voice. I would say that that's also a metonymy. Oh, I've archived my thread about movies I hated, but add Synecdoche, New York to the list. In that thread I also named Richard Kelly and Kevin Smith as writer-directors who only had one good movie in them, and they should have quit after making it. Well, add Charlie Kaufman to that list; he should have retired after writing Being John Malkovich. I'll balance some of this negativity out by mentioning some movies I loved: There's Something About Mary and Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle. Oh, but now I feel obligated to name another one I hated: Harold & Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:45, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well that's weird. I had not looked at your talk page prior to writing the above, and now I see that just three hours earlier, someone else had mentioned There's Something About Mary to you. Eeeeerie! (I was reminded of H&KEFGB because I noticed it on TV a few days ago [no, I didn't watch to give it a second chance], which reminded me of H&KGTWC, which reminded me of TSAM.) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  01:19, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Borat
As you loved Borat, enjoy. Bgwhite (talk) 23:37, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe, thanks for the link. Amazing that such a mistake could ever happen. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:02, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Did you know...
... that Mandarax recently attended a concert in which a musician performed a Bach cello suite entirely with her feet? M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:47, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You can't leave it at that, Mandarax! Where's the rest of the story? Lady  of  Shalott  19:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Whoa. Fo shizzle? Explain! BTW, next time, please a (pictured) behind the "Mandarax" part. Drmies (talk) 19:57, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * More details soon. In the meantime, if anyone has any info (or guesses) to add, feel free.... M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:52, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * See my talk for Solo Cello, but no answer yet. Would you join me here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you all for viewing my pre-April-Fools'-Day DYK. The twist is that this version of the Cello Suite was transcribed for organ, and was performed using only the pedalboard. It was beautiful. (BTW, the Suites for Unaccompanied Cello are among my favorite classical pieces, and I think this was the first time I ever heard one performed on anything other than a cello. Serendipity – it wasn't listed on the program, but was added as an encore.) Oh, Gerda, also included in the organ recital was, I believe, my first live performance of a Bach cantata (118). I think a similar hook would make a good real April Fools' DYK some year if I could find enough info about the performer and a review or other reliable source describing her performance. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:22, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for sharing! I thought of organ but couldn't believe that someone was able to play the highly virtuoso part on the pedal alone! April fools should be nominated today. I don't think I can handle that, too much in the making, Dr. Blofeld started one on a choir I admire and one about a choir performing in a church connected to my personal history (see user), I completed one for Good Friday and am working on one more, St Matthew Passion structure, - unless you know a better name. Did you know I assembled a picture collection yesterday around my front page image? PS: I have a Bach cantata open for review that should not have been performed more than 2 weeks ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:40, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * As I've told you before, I greatly admire your work. You're so productive! Good job on the pictures; I'm glad to see you working on the occasional article about the visual arts. As for your hint about the cantata needing a review, I've done it. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:39, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, very interesting! I was trying to imagine a contortionist bowing the cello with her foot... and it was quite hard to imagine that producing a passable performance of anything by Bach. Lady  of  Shalott  16:33, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I was picturing people picturing that, so I'm glad it had the desired effect! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:39, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you know this? Frohe Ostern! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Happy Easter! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:35, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

It is a pleasure

 * Thank you very much! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:42, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Janet Fish
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

I really liked that headline. It was the only one that made me think on what the headline meant. Bgwhite (talk) 23:54, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It was actually the very first one that occurred to me when I decided to make an April Fools' Day DYK for the article, although I didn't suggest it until after my original hook didn't go over too well. (Another, very silly one, which I briefly considered, was "... that a school of fish included katz?".) Congratulations to you for your DYK about the guy blowing up animals! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I claim no responsibility for the article. I thought the article was hilarious and did a DYK.  Balloonman deserves all the credit. Bgwhite (talk) 04:26, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. (BTW, as for my hook, I'm glad you liked it, but I still like my original one about a human child in a fish, and I'm sure it would've been more attention-grabbing.) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
...for the help with my DYK nomination (MV-1) - clearly my first. Cheers,  ⊂&#124; Mr.choppers &#124;⊃   (talk) 16:33, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Welcome to DYK! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Federal prosecution of public corruption in the United States
I have expanded the intro. Are you now OK with this as a joint nom? Savidan 23:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The second article has been sufficiently expanded. I've responded there. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:50, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Well done!

 * Thank you very much. I strongly argued to change that horrible situation which has The Sun redirecting to Sun, but people apparently were not interested in logical arguments that the exceedingly obvious correct redirect target should be to the UK newspaper. Ever since then, I've fixed hundreds, maybe over a thousand, of those now-erroneous-but-should-be-correct links which are added every day. Anyways, sorry for the speech. Thanks for your work on Wikipedia! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:35, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Well i should have checked where it linked to after all my edits but forgot so thanks anyway, it is appreciated.  J e n o  v a  20 17:47, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

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BLP Todd Siler
Dear Mandarax,

I am a newbie, a first time, one time editor with a failed track record. I am appealing to you as a veteran wikipedian of acclaimed expertise for your help. Last week, I voluntarily attempted to improve the BLP of the artist, scientist, innovator and educator named Todd Siler by adding external links and verifiable, sourced references. I admitted a COI naively assuming that, as I was not writing biography content but just adding source material that my edits were neutral. My endeavors have lead to disgrace as the article is now heavily tagged casting a terrible pall over the life and work of this notable figure. I am considered a major contributor because I had to redo the reference section a dozen times to get it right. I have spent hours trying to find ways to rectify the situation. On wiki advice, I posted my withdrawal from further edits on the article’s talk page.

Considering your interest in art and science and Colorado artists, I ask that you consider reviewing the article. The fact that it has been tagged as an advertisement for a person who in a 40 year career has never engaged in promotion, tagged for questionable sources for a scholar of world renown whose work as been peer reviewed in hundreds of instances and tagged due to my inexperience is potentially damaging to Dr. Siler. As an educator with an international student following who surely look to Wikipedia for resource material, this is unwelcome indeed. I clearly understand the reason for the tags and respect Wikipedia’s high level of responsibility and ethics. I honestly regret my actions and seek only resolution.

I value the Wiki community of consensus and collaboration and I thank you in advance for your kind consideration. "George Cabe (talk) 16:08, 14 April 2012 (UTC)"
 * Sorry you've encountered such difficulties, and I hope you decide to do more Wikipedia editing. I've removed some of the tags, including the one about advertising. Note that the article has not been "tagged for questionable sources", but rather for the lack of inline citations, which it indeed should have. See WP:REFBEGIN. Most of the many references listed in the article do not have URLs, so these can only be turned into inline citations by someone with access to those materials. As for the ones that are online... when I reference an article, I make sure that every fact has an inline citation, and I simply don't have the energy to search for all of that. Maybe someone at WP:Cleanup or WP:Help desk could help. Good luck! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:20, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * "I can't thank you enough for taking the time to respond to my ask for help. I have two more questions: If you or I removed (undo) all of my edits, would that remove my major contributor status and would it cause any harm to the article since some other editors made appropriate edits after mine? Secondly, during the past week after learning that essentially the page needed "inline citations", I worked on a potential list. One editor at the help desk advised that I should make suggestions for edits on the talk page. I was reluctant to do that since I had posted my withdrawal. I only want to do what is right. Is it appropriate to ask someone at cleanup or help desk to review my suggested inline citations for inclusion? As I have stated, I no longer feel eligible to edit any further. My sincere thanks,once again." George Cabe (talk) 00:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Strange... I attempted to reply four and a half hours ago. Somehow my response didn't get saved. I hate retyping things, but here I go.... You're welcome. Per your (implied) request, I undid your edits to the text of the article (which were rather minor), while leaving the references which you added after the end of the text. I'm sure that was sufficient to remove the Conflict of interest tag, which I did. Your attitude and willingness to do what's "right" are admirable. I think it would be fine to post your suggestions on the article's talk page, but if you're reluctant to do so, you could instead do it on your user talk page or a user subpage such as User:George Cabe/sandbox. Again, good luck. It's nice to see such a conscientious editor. I hope you'll find other topics on Wikipedia which you may want to contribute to. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:33, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

":" Once again, I can't thank you enough for the timely, thoughtful and kind assistance in this matter. I will consider how best to post suggestions for inline citations in the hopes that someone is able to take it to task. Your support has been very meaningful. I wish you the very best."George Cabe (talk) 14:31, 16 April 2012 (UTC)"

As promised
See here. Much thanks! --kelapstick(bainuu) 02:11, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe, it's quite a fast-growing category! You're welcome for the DYK nomination. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  03:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I haven't quite worked how where to put the picture of the authors (as drawn by Cortes), do you think they should replace Kareem Abdul Jabar (in the article, I think KAJ looks smashing in the DYK nomination). --kelapstick(bainuu) 03:43, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * According to DYK rules, the image illustrating the hook must appear in the article. I would say that the drawing of the authors could go on the left under the "Authors" heading. If that looks too cluttered, another option would be to leave KAJ until after the DYK, then replace that picture with the one of the authors. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Kind of what I was thinking, although I did some tweaking, and it's not bad, I moved KAJ down a section, he didn't fit in where he was (maybe he doesn't play well with others, I don't know), the infobox pushes everything down, as much as I like them they are a pain in the ass. Forced the picture left under a section header against MOS recommendations (and they way I usually reformat other articles).  I tried a hard break (that's what she said) before the authors section, but it forces the hard break to go below the infobox.  I just removed the authors section, it's only two lines, and can be included as a second paragraph in the background section.  Maybe I should break down and expand the lead so the infobox is entirely contained (or remove information from the infobox...or I can be lazy and let it sit as is for now...I think I will stick with the latter.--kelapstick(bainuu) 08:34, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good to me. Yeah, when I recommended the placement, I was thinking about the MOS and specifically ignored it, as most people tend to do. I'm guilty of adding to the Infobox; you're right – some items could probably be removed, but the philosophy when in doubt, do nothing is a good one. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  10:36, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Might as well give up....
In case you missed it, might as well give up on edit counts.

Also, the new color diff scheme is supposed to be turned on sometime today. Instead of "upgrading" the Mediawiki code a few times a year, they are now going to "upgrade" at least every other month. Bgwhite (talk) 07:34, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks; I did miss it. I'm very surprised. I'd thought for a long time that Rich Farmbrough would be the first to do a million edits, but he's still got about 27,000 to go. As for me, I'd "given up" long ago. Last month I had my fewest edits since October 2009. As I've mentioned, I enabled then disabled then reenabled the new diffs. I think they really missed an opportunity to greatly improve it. Whereas with the old scheme it was very, very difficult to discern small changes such as a single punctuation character, and impossible to see spacing changes, they've now upgraded it to just very difficult for all such small changes. It baffles me why they were apparently unable to select colors which really work, such as those in AWB. Thanks for the warning about the more frequent "upgrades"; usually their "upgrades" break a bunch of things (often breaking bots, for example), although the last upgrade really did fix that problem I'd been having with Twinkle. Yes, that problem had been caused by the previous "upgrade", but I'll still give 'em credit. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  10:07, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And I see that the new "upgrade" did briefly break Twinkle. And it looks like public opinion is strongly against the new diff scheme. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:25, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've got to laugh at some of the comments. Part of the problem is it's something new and everybody hates when it changes out the old for the new.  They should have put way to change back to the old version via preferences right from the beginning.  I do agree that the colors could be slightly darker as it can be more difficult to see.
 * Ahhh, it will be so nice to have "upgrades" more often because it will give me a reason to view the technical pump to figure out why something isn't working. Bgwhite (talk) 07:07, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it occurred to me that some of the opposition may be a general resistance to any change from the familiar. That's obviously not the case with me, since I voluntarily made the change before it was thrust upon everybody. Just today I was poring over a diff containing a long paragraph in which a single character was added. I kept carefully inspecting it, trying to find the change, not knowing ahead of time if just one side had a change or both; after a long time I eventually found it, but it should be obvious immediately. Note: I didn't notice your comment til now; I had made a reply below at about the same time, and I wasn't notified that I had a new message. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  03:00, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I hate change, but I'll get used to it. The colors are a bit light for me as well, esp. when I'm outside on the netbook. Hey, you two, perhaps you are interested in this thread, see Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. The editor in question is also the author of User:AnotherWeeWilly/sandbox. There's a beautiful watercolor by Van Gogh in it for you. (Mandarax, if this wasn't clear, I'm asking you to look at that sandbox article and make a snap judgment whether the writer is worth keeping...) Drmies (talk) 15:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, my favorite kind of decision... one that's already been made (judging by the red). I see you decided it was worth keeping. And the ban decision is all but made already too. That's good, as I'm much too tired today to be making any decisions or, really, thinking at all; seems like a good time to do lots of mindless editing! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:37, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Returning to the original topic.... The downward slide has begun. After plateauing at number 25 on the list of users by number of edits, where I stayed for quite a while, I then dropped to number 28 where I stayed for a very long time. I've now slipped to 29, and it's all downhill from here. I fully expect you to surpass me soon. (In spite of how it may appear, since I've taken note of my position, my lower ranking really doesn't matter to me. I'd hate to think I would ever step up my AWB edits just to maintain or improve my position on the list.) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:48, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Eh, you've shifted to do more DYK than AWB edits. I do follow where I rank, but I don't put alot of stock into it because of my AWB edits.  I do more than simple edits, so alot of AWB edits would count as "normal edits".  90 new articles today took about 3 hrs to complete because of cleanups, prods and the like.  There were 200 new articles every day last week, but it took under two hrs to complete because alot of them were simple edits.  I use a AutoHotkey script, so instead of alot of typing, it is simple keystrokes.
 * Plateaued is definitely a verb. Hear it alot in music or sports....  The song plateaued at #8 on the charts.
 * I went and saw a movie over the weekend. My wife loves horror movies so we saw The Cabin in the Woods.  It turned out to be a very funny/satirical.  I don't want to say it was a spoof, but did spoof horror movies with some wicked commentary.  Josh Whedon wrote the show (Firefly, Buffy).  He does have a good sense of humor.  I'd highly recommend Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog if you haven't seen it.  It's a free short web movie.  I saw Better Off Ted is available on Netflix.  That was a great TV series. Bgwhite (talk) 08:39, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, you go to movies with the wife?!? Firefly was yet another of those "saw the pilot, didn't like it, never watched again" shows. Buffy is one of those "never saw but heard it was great" shows. The "Racial Sensitivity" episode of Better Off Ted was one of the funniest episodes of any show ever! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I completely lost it with the sign on the drinking fountain saying, "White's only". Bgwhite (talk) 20:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Rachel Kollock McDowell
THanks for the correction on the DYK - before I had the bold but not the link. Always a detail.Parkwells (talk) 02:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:08, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination help
Can you help fix Template:Did you know nominations/Justin Bieber on Twitter? I added a second article after the original nomination and a second contributor as some one came in and did substantial editing to improve the Bieber article. --LauraHale (talk) 01:25, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ – just some minor tweaking. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  02:32, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Awesome. :D Thanks mate! --LauraHale (talk) 04:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Beatles infobox
There is a Straw Poll taking place here, and your input would be appreciated. — GabeMc (talk) 02:17, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Todd Siler
I took the suggestions of several veteran editors like yourself and posted possible article improvements to the Talk Page of Todd Siler. Remembering your keen interest in art and Colorado artist in particular, I wanted to alert you to my efforts. You had mentioned that you did not have the time to work on a page that didn't have url sources. I took that has evidence that others would feel the same and cited as many online sources as I could. I would appreciate your review. I wasn't able to do the markups as a newbie but am hopeful that the information would represent a formidable foundation for experienced editors. "George Cabe (talk) 15:15, 27 April 2012 (UTC)"

DYK for I Don't Want To Blow You Up!
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:12, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK in general
Thanks for cleaning up after me when I self nominated. I'm still on training wheels with filling out the nomination.Maile66 (talk) 00:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:40, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You clean up after me when I self nominate, too, and you do it quite regularly. Thanks. Whilst approaching 200 DYK credits, perhaps I should put the training wheels back on... Good to see that one of us is awake!  Schwede 66  06:01, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Just very minor stuff; thank you for writing all of those articles, and congratulations on your upcoming 200th DYK. I've probably got more than 200 on my list of articles to create or expand; maybe I'll get to them some day to add to my current 16.... M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  09:19, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hey Mandarax, do you know what this user is doing? I don't have a clue! Drmies (talk) 16:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it looks like they're using the "frequently updated" parameter of Infobox software (which seems unnecessary for software whose latest version was released three years ago). Until just now, I was completely unaware that an Infobox could retrieve its data from a template without specifying that template in the Infobox. It supposedly allows users to "quickly and effectively" update software version numbers by editing the template rather than the article. However, if I were someone who didn't know this (e.g., me, two minutes ago) and I wanted to update the version, I would be completely baffled, as the text relating to the version appears nowhere in the text of the Infobox. It's not intuitive to me that to change the version, one has to click on the version link as displayed in the article; I only discovered this by perusing the Infobox's documentation. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You learn something every day. As did I--can you please have a look at Template:Did you know nominations/Stichting Oud Politieke Delinquenten? Thanks for your help there. Drmies (talk) 14:22, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment: further response and hook tweak at the template. Drmies (talk) 14:00, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Categorization question
Mandarax my friend, is what I did here kosher? Lady of  Shalott  14:14, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems okay. Perhaps not ideal, which is why you asked, but I don't think it's a problem. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:03, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll leave it, and if someone later objects, deal with it then. Lady  of  Shalott  12:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

New mediawiki update
They were supposed to due another update on Monday. Perhaps they did it today because of the notable changes on the watchlist. The technical village pump is having a field day over it. I'm not sure what to say because one moment an article, not talk or a wikipedia page, is starred and the next moment it is bold. According to the pump, they supposedly did a change for you monobook holdouts. Ah joy. Bgwhite (talk) 21:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I've been wondering what was going on... thought maybe it was just problems loading or something. I'm another of the "monobook holdouts" because I really hate the vector interface. It is less readable to me, not more. Lady  of  Shalott  02:25, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I never saw stars. I try to avoid reading Village pumps (as well as noticeboards and whatnot) as much as possible, but what I saw in a brief glance looked overwhelmingly opposed to the change. To me, the bold seems like a goodish idea. I often go through my watchlist nonsequentially and I did sometime wonder if I'd seen a diff already. However, what I think would've been a much better idea would be an option to hide already-viewed changes. The numerous green backgrounded "updated since my last visit" notices on revision histories are certainly... uh... noticeable. Is that what they did to punish us monobookers? Yes, Lady, I agree – I much prefer monobook. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:22, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't see the green background notices, so it must be the monobook goodie. In most cases, they need to ask people first and make a way to turn it off.  Just springing things on people is not good.  The stars were mighty big, maybe 150-175% the size of the font.  Stars were useless.  I didn't like the bold at first, but now I'm liking it and finding it useful.  I don't mind the vector look probably because I'm used to it.  Also, getting rid of the left menu bar,that was hogging up screen space, made it much nicer.  That is a useful javascript. Bgwhite (talk) 08:35, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I forgot to thank you. You are the one who alerted me to the wonderful drop drop menu script, cactions.js.  Without that, I couldn't get rid of the left bar.  I found a nice Firefox add-on called "Form History Control".  It allows you to get rid of any values you have added into forms (aka edit summaries).  I use alot of the same edit summaries.  There are also alot of edit summaries I've used once and the summary starts out the same as the summaries I use alot.  It has an option to get rid of any summaries you have used once, twice or three times, then you can individual edit any leftovers.  Like, it literally has like saved me literally alot of time, like. Bgwhite (talk) 21:34, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Aw, it's a shame you don't get to see the green. On the revision history page of any article in my watchlist, every edit since my last visit looks like this: If I haven't viewed an article in a long time and/or it gets a lot of edits, the entire revision history page could be filled with those green notices on every line!
 * (cur | prev) 14:07, May 11, 2012‎ Bgwhite (talk | contribs)‎ . . (37,522 bytes) (+536) ‎ ‎ . . (→‎ Comics bibliographies: reply) updated since my last visit (undo)

I'm glad you've found the drop-down menus to be useful. I just manually delete those edit summaries in the form as they become bothersome, but I may check out the add-on. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:29, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

I see they've undone the change to the watchlist. And they made the revision history page much less obnoxious; it's still got all the "updated since my last visit"s, but now it's just green text on the normal background. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  04:23, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Literally...
I recently mentioned the misuse of the word literally. Well I was very interested to see someone write on a certain admin's talk page that a "situation is literally scaring the crap out of me". I refrained from pointing it out there, as I didn't want to make light of their scary situation, but I had to note it somewhere. I haven't identified the user, as I wouldn't want them to literally die of embarrassment. M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  09:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh dear. Lady  of  Shalott  12:56, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It's one of the most overused words, indeed. That's funny. On a totally serious note, I love giving barnstars. (Here is context, if you needed that for some inexplicable reason.) Drmies (talk) 19:41, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Forgive me, but I keep imagining someone sitting at the keyboard as they get scared, and the feces just start spewing out. Forgive me again. Normally I'm not amused by such puerile humor. (Note: the only thing I didn't like about Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle was the bathroom scene.) Yeah, you're conscientious, considerate, and generous in awarding barnstars to deserving users; I should do more of that. Dahn does good work. (And that was quite a translation job on ANI!) A coupla years ago I had seen work Dahn had done on an article and I added a DYK credit. Dahn seemed surprised and genuinely touched to receive it. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No apology necessary. What a mess Wikipedia can cause--high bloodpressure, carpet wasted... Dahn does great work, and so does his Romanian pal, Biruitorul. (Hope I got the vowels right.) As for barnstars and wikilove, I like getting creative here. IP 99 (well, formerly known as) got a few from me as well today: User talk:198.228.226.241. I wonder how often NPPers have their finger on the rollback button when my edits come by. Have a great weekend, Mandarax! Drmies (talk) 00:56, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I liked Basquiat fine, I think. I don't remember a story line or plot details--I may have mentioned to you earlier that I can see a movie five times before I know how it ends. Imagine me watching The Usual Suspects. Drmies (talk) 00:59, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Regarding that barnstar, I must say... "eeek!" (Note: you're not the only one who's been giving out balls today.) Thanks for the Basquiat update. I also tend to not remember much about movies, especially if they're not something I particularly love or (more likely) hate. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  06:26, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I changed the barnstar, out of deference to the IP's sensitivities. We're having a boy so I suppose I'll learn a lot more about them. BTW, I figured out your friend's identity, but that's neither here nor there. That was a nice barnstar for Bg; I am really liking Wikilove. I think I'm going to give up on movies until Matt Damon returns for another Bourne; the recent reruns of the Death Wish movies on AMC hasn't helped. In a few weeks me and the apple of my eye will be overseas...if you ever read (and finish) one of my all-time favorite books, Le Grand Meaulnes, you'll know why (I see now there's a movie...). Happy days Mandarax, Drmies (talk) 04:58, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Probably a good idea to switch that image. But I'd like to point out that I still cherish the tastefully risqué Protector of Wikipedian Sex Workers Award which you gave me. Congratulations on your future boy; awwww, I remember when he was just a blueberry. About 99's identity.... I sometimes form a composite idea of WikiUsers, and my initial vision of 99 was just about as wrong as possible. As for my recognition of Bg's seven years, well, one can hardly go wrong when quoting Shakespeare. I disabled Wikilove immediately after it was deployed. Yes, I really should award more barnstars, but I prefer to construct them manually. I don't think I've seen a movie since I said a few months ago that I was quitting 'em for a while. I saw one of the Bourne movies; I'm sure it'll come as no surprise that I didn't like it. I generally like Damon, although as I've previously mentioned, I hated Dogma. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think I'm about equally split on liking/disliking his films. Never saw a Death Wish movie, or anything with Charles Bronson as far as I recall. Ooooh, an overseas trip... have fun! Did you read Le Grand Meaulnes in French? M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:20, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course! And in Dutch, and in English. My real reason for dropping by: Did You Know that Donna Summer "literally loved to sing"? Drmies (talk) 04:09, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow! I can barely read in English, and you've read the same book in three languages! No, I didn't know that about Summer. Ah, looking at various usages of that word has provided me with literally millions of hours of entertainment. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  06:48, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Then you can rhetorically die an amused man. Ha, amused to (first meaning) death. Drmies (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Bold watchlist
They turned off bold, for now. If you want it back, add the following to your common.css span.updatedmarker { background-color: transparent; color: #006400; } strong.mw-watched a { font-weight: bold; }

Thank you for your note on my pseudo 7-year anniversary. Interesting week... anniversary, user page vandalized for first time, email thanking me for the my work and they will be mentioning me in their Wikimania talk, email from an admin telling me where to go and for the Coup de grâce, my mother-in-law needs hip replacement surgery. Wife asked if I could telecommute from the spawn of Satan's house and take care of her during the daytime. Bgwhite (talk) 05:12, 12 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Two other nice scripts I found for your vector/monobook.js
 * Remove the "Mark all read" button on the watchlist: importScript('User:Equazcion/RemoveMarkAll.js');
 * In the history section of an article, add a url link of the two versions you are comparing. Easy to copy-paste into a discussion: importScript('User:Equazcion/LiveDiffLink.js');
 * Equazcion has a several other little scripts in his vector.js file. Bgwhite (talk) 05:27, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info, you're welcome for the note, congratulations on the good stuff, and sorry to hear to about the bad stuff.... M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  06:23, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Regarding Template:Did you know nominations/Jagannath Prasad Das
Hi, the article Jagannath Prasad Das which I created is qualified for DYK, but I don't any changes in Template:Did you know nominations/Jagannath Prasad Das, can you please help me with this? --SubhaUtter2me! 06:07, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Odd bug in DYK listings
Check Template talk:Did you know, and look at the first entry, Template:Did you know nominations/Sodsai Pantoomkomol. At the foot of the nomination I see the line:
 * No it's not my first. I like your hook better than mine.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 15:18, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea where this is coming from - it is not inside the nomination itself. I have seen you fix poorly formatted nominations. Maybe you know what is causing it. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 19:53, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. The user had added a misplaced comment at the end of another nomination, which had been archived. The archived text isn't visible when transcluded onto the nominations page. so the comment appeared to be attached to a different nomination. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  04:06, 16 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Good. I thought it was something like that, but could not see a nomination where the comment seemed to belong... Aymatth2 (talk) 12:23, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Of note...
Just to let you know, ssd drives fail just as miserably as a regular hard drive. Reinstalling everything is so much joy. What is worse is going without Wikipedia for 36 hours with all the sweating, hand shaking, paranoia, increased pulse... Bgwhite (talk) 05:44, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * How horrible! Well, maybe losing WikiAccess gave you the opportunity to spend some time with the wife outside of the scheduled hours, and contemplate the quality time you'll soon be able to spend with the mother-in-law. Glad it's fixed and you're back! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  06:19, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * You sir are evil. There was a silver lining.  My wife had a final today, so I didn't have to spend time with her, thank goodness.  I would normally say something "happy" about my wife taking a test, but I wouldn't wish that misery on anybody.  Last one I took was June 16, 1995 and yes, I'll remember that day till I die. Bgwhite (talk) 06:38, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes I am. I consider every day to be a test, so my last one was May 18, 2012. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:11, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you pass? Bg, did she pass? Drmies (talk) 15:41, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Weird italic title
Can you tell where tl:italic title is coming into Charlie Albright? It's a BLP, so there is no reason for it to be italicized, and I can't find the template. Is it hidden inside some other template used on the page? Lady of  Shalott  02:02, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that was odd. There's an Infobox album near the end of the article which was doing it. I added the appropriate parameter to suppress the italic title. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  02:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I see! Thanks, Mandarax! Lady  of  Shalott  02:20, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * And thanks for the non-gratuitous "literally"! Drmies (talk) 19:08, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! (I'd hoped that you would appreciate the "literally"....) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  01:36, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thanks for cleaning up the mess I made of the Jennifer Screen nomination.

LauraHale (talk) 07:44, 8 June 2012 (UTC) 
 * Well, I certainly wouldn't call it a mess. Believe me, I've seen people make a mess of DYK nominations, and that wasn't even close! Anyways, you're welcome. And thanks for the kitten! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:35, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about me?? Hey, Mandarax, wish you were here! Drmies (talk) 14:59, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe. No; you may have made some tiny errors, but never a mess. Thanks. BTW, what did you end up serving your brother? M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:42, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, Mandarax--everything but the dead animal. But I served him two pounds of mushrooms in Belgium to make up for it. Drmies (talk) 22:16, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, you make the best barnstars. Thanks. Hey, I just added up the DYKs and I'm at 200. Now I can stop--but there's another in the pipeline. Can you please look over Horse burial for me when you have a moment? (I just realized I didn't do a DEFAULTSORT, and the talk page is bare.) Thanks! Drmies (talk) 04:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * (watching) I heard you, 200, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:08, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow! 200! Good work putting lots of quality material on the Main Page! (And Gerda, good job with the 200 DYK Medal.) Horse burial is interesting and well-written, as usual. I made what is perhaps the smallest possible visible edit, basically moving an apostrophe a few angstroms. I don't think a DEFAULTSORT is necessary. As for the article's DYK, while I generally favor withholding information if it will produce a hookier hook, I personally think this would attract more attention if it was spelled out that these animals were buried with humans. But, of course, whatever you think is fine. Thanks about the barnstars. (But I still think your sex worker one is the best.) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  09:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I won't get close to Gerda's count, I'm afraid. Mandarax, please go ahead and tweak the hook: I'm still jetlagged (which is why I'm up at 6AM) and my creative faculty hasn't yet woken up. Drmies (talk) 11:12, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Nom
Thanks for letting me know. Regards, Ericoides (talk) 19:19, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Those intricate templates can be tricky. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:22, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for reverting the vandalism. Yes, My user page has been vandalized twice now. Bgwhite (talk) 19:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I wonder who the user is a sock of; their only edits have been to vandalize five of your pages and someone else's user page. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * It is a sock most likely related to the AfD of Depak Muniraj. The sock also vandalized User:Muhandes and we a both involved in Muniraj's case. Bgwhite (talk) 19:46, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * They're blocked now, but I guess they already threw away the account. Drop me a line if this happens again. Drmies (talk) 11:12, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Speaking of Depak
Check this out, a puzzling edit on many levels, not the least of which that the editor of that draft has been blocked for two weeks. Drmies (talk) 11:17, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, you two, please help me out cleaning up Walter Baxter, a former AfC submission turned down by your pal. Writer, obscenity trial, gay, military--find me a better DYK possibility. Drmies (talk) 11:42, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Mandarax, what are they trying to do here? What is this "Example" substitution? I've gone through a couple of their AfC edits already and I don't understand the syntax and what it does--what I do see is that whatever they're doing is probably not helping those who submitted the articles. Drmies (talk) 12:15, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The Lady did a good job of cleaning up Walter Baxter. I found only the minorest of things to do. (Hmmmmm, is that my specialty?) I'll see about checking out the other things if I'm feeling motivated to figure why people do things.... M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:19, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mandarax. Your intention to maybe develop a feeling toward a motivation is (cautiously) appreciated. Drmies (talk) 12:44, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe, sorry, I've been extra-tired lately, so I might not be up to my usual normal-tired standards. I dunno what the deal is with those edits. The AFC submission documentation is decidedly uninformative about parameters. The clock is ticking on Baxter's DYK and it's only got 953 of the required 1500 characters. However, it could be expanded leisurely and submitted for April Fools' Day at any time over the next nine months: • ... that Walter Baxter, an author charged with obscenity, wrote a novel covering the gay relationship between the Batman and Tony Kent? The last Batman hook I wrote went on to become the most-viewed non-lead hook of all time (although it's since been surpassed). M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:51, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Passing along a request for help
Mandarax, would you please take a look at User talk:LadyofShalott? I think you are likely to be better able to help that editor than I. Lady  of  Shalott  22:16, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ (more or less). M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:08, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Mandarax!! Lady  of  Shalott  00:10, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
TheGeneralUser (talk) 10:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks for the barnstar! That was very nice of you. And you're welcome for the edits. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  11:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Your signature using obsolete code
FYI... the font tag in your signature has been depreciated for awhile. There's talk of an update coming down the pipeline that will remove the font tag altogether. Best if you start to or  your signature.... produces This Bgwhite (talk) 07:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. My initial thought was that my already-long signature would be too big after replacing the more compact, and I was going to just wait until it stopped working and then deal with it. But I decided to just do it. I find the additional 19 characters to be an annoyance, but it's still within allowed signature limits. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have the same concern with length. That's why I don't understand discouraging use of smaller code. What is the point? Lady  of  Shalott  13:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * This actually isn't a Wikimedia driven issue. The font tag was depreciated in HTML v4.0 by the W3C, the main web standards organization. In HTML5, the tag is totally removed.  Wikimedia is wanting to make the software HTML 5 compliant.  To make it compliant, various tags such as font, center, tt and strike are to be dropped.  I created my first website in 1993, so I'm very, very olllld school.  I want to tell this new css stuff to get off my lawn. Bgwhite (talk) 20:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I just saw Lady's message on her talk page. It was further up on my watchlist.  The code is longer for what you are trying to do.  In theory, the new way does give more fine grained control... can add other options besides just font characteristics.  Also, it is part of CSS, which allows the content of a document to be separate from the formatting of a document.  You can write one CSS page to describe how an entire website could look, thus saving time and code.  So, for just changing just one font on one page, it is more code.  For changing the font on many pages at once, it saves on code. Bgwhite (talk) 20:47, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well phooey on them! Allowing multiple pages to be formatted at once is fine. It shouldn't have come at the expense of simple code for the one page. (I also created my first page somewhere in that time period. And now you say they are also doing away with centering, strikeouts, etc.?  Lady  of  Shalott  20:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you are still grumbling about the removal the blink tag. Bgwhite (talk) 21:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh heck no! I always despised things blinking at me. Lady  of  Shalott  21:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It actually could be seen as a Wikimedia driven issue. Wiki interprets a  and outputs  ; the font tags could very easily be translated likewise.  M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Authority control file.
As you, Lady and Drmies work on articles that are more likely to have an Authority control file... From this week's signpost, there is a proposal for a bot to add a VIAF identifier. This is done by adding the Authority control template. Thought it might be a good idea for you to start adding it manually to new articles. Kurt Vonnegut's would be. Bgwhite (talk) 21:26, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting. So... is this correct? (BTW, that article just got promoted to GA. :) ) Lady  of  Shalott  21:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I think I'm likely to leave this task to the bots. Bg, I've removed the active template from your post, because it was putting my talk page in Category:Wikipedia articles with authority control information. Lady, hearty congratulations on the GA! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:25, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Lady  of  Shalott  22:29, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, congratulations Lady. Yup, it is correct. On the VIAf page under the "About" section, one of the external links could be a Wikipedia link.  Hmmm, wonder how/why it the link gets there. Bgwhite (talk) 22:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! So... what do you do when one person has more than one VIAF as is the case for Faith Hunter (63433421)/ Gwen Hunter (25490963) (same author, two pen names)? Lady  of  Shalott  23:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Flagicons in lists of artworks
I came upon Chronology of works by Caravaggio and was appalled to see the ticky tacky little flagicons. I wondered if this were an anomaly, so I looked at List of works by Leonardo da Vinci and found the same style in use there. This seems like a completely gratuitous use of the stupid flagicons to me. Are you aware of any discussion where this was chosen as a convention? I'd really like to strip out the icons as useless and tasteless. (Are you getting the idea that I hate the ticky tacky little flagicons? Good, 'cause you're right; I do.) Lady  of  Shalott  03:26, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ugh, the Caravaggio article has more problems. Table is broken, circa should go in front of date, use of center tag, having some columns sortable when they shouldn't, etc. Toolserver is still having problems after ~10 days, so I can't do my usual stuff.  Will be nice to work on a list again. Bgwhite (talk) 04:30, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, that is horrible. I can't imagine that there was any consensus about it, especially since it's contradictory to MOS:FLAG. There probably wasn't even a discussion; probably just one misguided person thought it would be a good idea, and maybe others followed their example. I agree with Drmies about not using flags on the Tour de France page, but at least there I understand why people might want to use 'em. On these pages, they're just ridiculous. I'm guessing the circas were oddly after the year for sorting purposes. Thanks for working on this Bg. I always get a headache when I try to work on tables, especially large ones. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  06:25, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There's a way to sort even using the circas. If you ever don't want to deal with a table, just yell.  I actually enjoy working on tables. Bgwhite (talk) 07:23, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks. Beware, I may just take you up on that offer some time. One of the things I use tables for is when I'm dealing with a template that stubbornly insists on displaying its output in some specific position, and I use a table to force my will upon it. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:49, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, with that note, I'm going to start deleting flags. BG, you can do the other stuff. :) Lady  of  Shalott  17:12, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, you've already been working on the flags too! Lady  of  Shalott  17:13, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Beyond the kitten of thanks, can you give me a very brief synopsis of MOS regarding hyphening year statements?

LauraHale (talk) 22:51, 7 July 2012 (UTC) 
 * Hmmm, I dunno if that'll be in the MOS. I may sometimes be inclined to over-hyphenate, but in this case "one" is modifying the noun "year", so I removed the hyphen. Now, if "one-year" was being using as a compound adjective (and I think I just made that term up, but I think you know what I mean) such as "a one-year contract", then I think the hyphen would be fine. If there are any English professors seeing this, maybe they can expound further and/or correct me. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:06, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * • Yet another thing I thought I made up, but didn't. Although the article is "compound modifier", they're also called "compound adjectives". The article mentions hyphenation of such elements. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:17, 7 July 2012 (UTC)


 * ... *splats* Okay.  I apologise but given that you know this better than me, I'm just going to blithely go on letting you fix these and giving you a murder of kittens in thanks for fixing these problems. :D --LauraHale (talk) 00:13, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe, thanks for the kittens. Hmmmm, a "murder" is a group of crows; applying that to kittens produces images of flying cats, and you've gone and reminded of the Orvillecopter again. Oh, and you asked about the MOS... it's discussed in section 3 of MOS:HYPHEN. BTW, The person who really goes around fixing grammatical, formatting, and MOS errors is Art LaPella. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:38, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Did you know ...
Did you know that "Did you know that 'Did you know ... that "Did you know that Big 5 stopped selling handguns in March 1986?", regarded as the Perry Mason moment of the first Menendez brothers trial, resulted from a tip phoned in by a Court TV viewer?' will be Daniel Case's 500th DYK?" was perhaps my most complicated and convoluted contribution, until now? M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:25, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome for the thanks. It would indeed be nice if we could put something like that on the Main Page. Maybe when I reach a thousand ... Daniel Case (talk) 02:14, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * And, again, thank you for the 501 Barnstar. Unique, to say the least. Daniel Case (talk) 16:44, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

AAARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!
They have a bot that will be tagging all biography articles that don't have the Biography banner on its talk page. When they tag it with the banner, of course it will have missing living and listas. They estimate 55,000 articles. Currently 1,500 are done. I want to cry. Bgwhite (talk) 04:49, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * 350 of 'em put you in the fetal position; I shudder to think what 55,000 might do. Should we have a medical team standing by? M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:03, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)
Credo Reference, who generously donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that:


 * Link to Survey (should take between 5-10 minutes): http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N8FQ6MM

It also asks some basic questions about what you like about the Credo program and what you might want to improve.

At this time only the initial 400 editors have accounts, but even if you do not have an account, you still might want to weigh in on which resources would be most valuable for the community (for example, through WikiProject Resource Exchange).

Also, if you have an account but no longer want to use it, please leave me a note so another editor can take your spot.

If you have any other questions or comments, drop by my talk page or email me at wikiocaasi@yahoo.com. Cheers! Ocaasit &#124; c 17:23, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Fauvism
Hello friend! I would be infinitely grateful to you if you could give me an explanation about a point in the "Fauvism". Just that: what is the clear meaning of the phrase".... an influence on the pejorative used." in the sentence "Henri Rousseau was not a Fauve, but his large jungle scene The Hungry Lion Throws Itself on the Antelope was exhibited near Matisse’s work and may have had an influence on the pejorative used."?

Thanks a lot in advance!

94.160.28.98 (talk) 06:44, 15 July 2012 (UTC) 15 07 2012


 * The "pejorative" is Fauve; although the term as applied to the art movement no longer has negative connotations, it was originally used derisively. The person describing the works as "wild beasts" may have been influenced by the presence of the nearby painting depicting wild animals. The source says of The Hungry Lion: "Exhibited in the 1905 Salon des Indépendants, it may have influenced the choice of catchword for a group of young painters – the Fauves, or Wild Beasts – whose work was hanging nearby." I hope this has helped a bit.... M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:27, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for asking. While checking it out, I discovered that the last part of that paragraph didn't say what it meant to say at all. I've now fixed it. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:42, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Mc Mac
On articles I watch, I've seen someone come through the namesorts changing the sort name form Mc to Mac. I see you are reversing that. Where is the policy? As in how do I know who is right? Trackinfo (talk) 19:57, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * For the current guideline, see WP:MCSTJR. The correct sort key used to use "Mac", but after several discussions (see WT:Categorization of people and its archives), it was changed to "Mc". I corrected and/or added thousands of sort keys to conform to the then-current guideline, and now I'm working on getting things to agree with the now-current one. Also note that sort keys used to be case-sensitive, but no longer are; so, for example, the sort key for "Paul McCartney" used to be "Maccartney, Paul", but now it's "McCartney, Paul". M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:28, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Subpage
You kindly added the subpage parameter to Template:Did you know nominations/Laufen Hut, Fritzerkogel, Alpine route twice. Let me understand why not to all, only the nominator? The parameter is still mysterious for me, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:44, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, first let me hopefully demystify it a bit. The subpage parameter specifies the location of the nomination page. It's useful in two situations: in the Credits section of individual Prep and Queue pages, and by the bot to create the nompage parameter in the dyktalk on an article's talk page after it's appeared on DYK. The link in both of those places to view the nomination page is displayed automatically when the nomination subpage has the same name as the article; in those cases (which is most of them), the nompage parameter is not necessary. When the names differ (e.g., for multi-noms or nomination subpages with typos in their names or if the article was moved subsequent to the nomination or if someone just wanted to give the nomination page a different name), a subpage parameter is required to display the link. I only added it to the first DYKmake for each article because only the first one is required for the bot to add it to the article's talk page. Adding it to the others would be fine (and would cause a "View nom subpage" link to appear on individual Prep and Queue pages for every DYKmake), but I don't think it's necessary. And my philosophy is to always try to do the minimum possible! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  10:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It's what I wanted to know. Do I conclude right guessing that the link to the nomination will be missing in the credits on my talk? But that doesn't matter because the articles will have it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. The link will appear on user talk pages only if the nompage is the same name as the article title, or if a human adds the appropriate parameter. I had requested that the bot add the nompage info to the article talk pages, but I felt, for the reason you mention, that it wasn't important to have it on the user talk pages. If you think it is desirable to have it on the user talk pages as well, feel free to request that the bot do that. If so, I'll start adding the subpage parameter to every DYKmake as necessary. I may even do that anyways just for consistency on individual Prep and Queue pages. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Tech question
Mandarax, perhaps you or one of your technically gifted friends can help out another editor, at Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents, with a search query. Drmies (talk) 03:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Best I could think of is searching for any occurrence of "μηδείς" over the past week via a Google search. They all appear to be done by user "Medeis" and not by anybody else.  The known forgery was removed, so it wouldn't show up in Google. Bgwhite (talk) 05:20, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It would be nice if one could sort "What links here" results by most recently edited or something. I only discovered a similar incident when a user complained about a warning containing my signature, which had, in fact, been written by someone else. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:03, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Mandarax, you have a fanclub! Drmies (talk) 16:16, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I too remember somebody signing my name to a post on Kelapstick's talk page. Typical admin, do as I say, but not as I do. $(#(<? Drmies.  Bgwhite (talk) 19:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to wikiFeed
Hi Mandarax,

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For more information about wikiFeed, visit our project page. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask via my talk page, or by email at wikifeedcc@gmail.com. We appreciate your time and hope you enjoy playing with wikiFeed!

Thanks! RachulAdmas (talk) 20:12, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Message
Am getting odd messages from you accusing me of vandalism. I have not edited anything, so please pack it in. 86.140.198.123 (talk) 21:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The warning message was from a year and a half ago, when someone using your IP did vandalize, saying that assassinations were great, and that Alexander I of Yugoslavia invented penicillin. See the note about IP editing at the bottom of your talk page. To avoid receiving warnings intended for other users of the same IP, please consider registering. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:27, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Changing your edit message...
Hi Mandarax! You have an edit message that makes it clear you are not an administrator. Can we do something about that? I think you'd make a good one. Lady of Shalott 23:52, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think you would use your new powers very much, but that extra bit would come in handy. Bgwhite (talk) 00:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Awwwww, thanks. That's very nice of both of you. But at this time, I have no desire to endure an RfA. Besides, Lady, my first instinct was to simply remove "I am not an administrator" from my editnotice and give a smart alecky "yes" to your "Can we do something about that?" question; this clearly demonstrates that I'm not mature enough to be an admin. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  01:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, darn. A silly sense of humor actually helps with the admin job, you know? Anyway, if you change your mind at some point, let me know! Lady <font color="#008888">of <font color="#442288">Shalott 01:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks again! Of course, I can bypass the painful RfA process when you're a bureaucrat; you can just stealthily make me an admin without anyone noticing....  M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  01:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, my name will magically become Jimbo? hahahahahah <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><font color="#cc2288">Lady <font color="#008888">of <font color="#442288">Shalott 01:57, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Henrik Rummel
Is the controversy in the news trivia or notable? I daren't add it. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:06, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe, me neither. I went to the page wondering if someone had added it, half expecting some vandalism. Although the item is making the rounds, I would hope that it's ultimately not notable. He may have a hard time making people forget this throughout his long career. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  10:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I checked the article history, and I see that there were a few vandalism edits related to the incident, as well as a non-vandalism reporting of it, but it was all reverted. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  10:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hahaha, that's also exactly why I went to the article. The sheer amount of coverage may make it notable. It was actually on The Daily Show. We shall see. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the controversy is certainly more notable than a lot of the trivia that makes it onto Wikipedia. I wouldn't object if someone added a properly sourced reporting of it. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I double dare you to expand it and DYK it. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmmm, I wonder if that would pass muster. We disallow hooks which unduly focus on negative aspects of BLPs, but what about just embarrassing ones? M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Until someone decides to post a reliable ref, I suspect it will continue to be reverted. The issue will probably blow over soon. Ng.j (talk) 16:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe, I included a couple of double entendres above, and I see you joined in too. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:17, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

 * You're welcome. Thanks for the strawberries! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Ng.j (talk) 06:44, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for correcting the formatting in Template:Did you know nominations/Harley-Davidson Model W. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 12:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:08, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

That
It strikes me that "that that that" may be correct, as in "that that that person said", so if you found the structure being used by accident you could say that "that that that" may be correct, but that that "that that that" that you had found was not. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:49, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hehe, I can't argue with that! (For any confused stalkers, that is in reference to that.) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Bravo, Mandarax. Drmies (talk) 03:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for commenting without using... a certain word. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  04:09, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Paraskevi Papachristou on Twitter
Haha, I should have looked into that when you posted it--after reading Controversies at the 2012 Summer Olympics I get it. Well played, my friend. Drmies (talk) 03:02, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link – I had been unaware of the Michel Morganella tweet. It's amazing that these athletes apparently thought that sending those tweets was a good idea. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  04:27, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Brad Jones (critic)
FYI: "Brad and company have a literal roundtable discussion about the interesting directing career of remakesploitation legend Bruno Mattei.". Drmies (talk) 23:01, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, a sentence which combines my interests in the use of the word "literal", and in portmanteaux. A perfectly lovely usage of "literal", since not all round table discussions necessarily take place around a round table. It seems to me I've heard a lot of "X-ploitation" portmanteaux, but the only ones that come to mind right now are blacksploitation and sexploitation. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:35, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I was wondering about the literality of it, though. I think it behooves you, as a connaisseur, to place a cn tag there. Drmies (talk) 23:52, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect template warnings
Hi, I'm LadyofShalott. I thought of you when making this edit a few minutes ago. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><font color="#cc2288">Lady <font color="#008888">of <font color="#442288">Shalott 14:24, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Drmies. I have made similar edits! If you're interested in why I did this or even if you just want to talk about the Spice Girls, please leave me a note on my talk page, which you can do by leaving a note on my talk page. Have a great day, and thank you for your contributions. Also, I love puppies. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Mandarax. Hehe, it's good to know that others see the ridiculousness and inappropriateness of the new warnings. As I pledged (User talk:Drmies/Archive 35), I have not issued a single level 1 warning since these atrocities appeared. I must say, it feels odd to revert (or see an unwarned revert by others) without issuing a warning. I may create a set of the old warnings in my userspace, but I'm not sure how much I'd use 'em, since I'm too lazy to do so manually, without Twinkle. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  19:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I skip to 2 - makes my eyes cross...Modernist (talk) 20:41, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I've always skipped to level 2 when appropriate, but probably a lot of people will be doing it all the time now. The misguided attempt to make warnings more friendly may backfire and just end up with people getting more severe warnings than they would have with the old ones. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:14, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Modernist, I'm issuing you a level-1 NPA warning since you obviously wipe your behind with our collaboratively established rules of collaborative establishment. You're SUPPOSED to start your commentary (your first in this thread and thus automatically a level-1 contribution) with "Hi, I'm Modernist". Christ, how hard is it to beat a little bit of motherfucking politeness into these assholes we're dealing with here in this dumb-ass joint? Your cooperation will be appreciated, if not enforced. Have a wonderful day! Drmies (talk) 21:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I'm Anna Frodesiak. I wanted to ask you if I'm allowed to use this instead User:Anna Frodesiak/Silver sandbox, or will I get in big trouble? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:01, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Drmies, still. I appreciate your taking the time to ask me a question, and I will do what I can to help you. Know that we at Wikipedia have only a few interests, and our main one is is to make new users feel as welcome as possible. To further that goal, we like to welcome everyone by making them feel welcome in a more welcoming manner than we have done thusfarly. I think you asked a really, really good question, and the work that you put in to asking it shows me--if I may speak personally--that you will be a great, productive editor, who no doubt will welcome many more new users! And, no, there's no "big trouble" here anywhere; the only people who get in "big trouble" are cranky old people who insist on doing things according to sets of antiquated rules. Not us, and not you either, Anna Frodesiak! I'm Drmies and I hope I have responded to your question in a welcoming manner! Drmies (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, it's me again, Anna Frodesiak. The thing is, when I give a level 1, I usually also add a welcome (if a registered user). So, I don't mind the straightforward statement in User:Anna Frodesiak/Silver sandbox. But if it's an IP, I guess I could use the Up With People version. Maybe I'll just make a custom IP welcome. Sincerely, I'm Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Mandarax again. Drmies, you're being very entertaining here. Anna, you were very wise to follow the correct greeting protocol. I thought it was funny enough that Drmies said he was going to issue an NPA warning to Modernist, but he actually did it! Please don't use the saccharine version for IPs! According to the crazy data on which this whole fiasco was based, IPs respond better to the old warnings than to the new ones. As for using your own version, the WMF guy who's defending the new ones says you're free to do that. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  00:08, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Anna Frodesiak, from before. Perfect. I will use the old version across the board. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:12, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Drmies. Drmies (talk) 01:45, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm LadyofShalott a Wikipedia editor who is known by the username LadyofShalott. I'm enjoying this thread immensely. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><font color="#cc2288">Lady <font color="#008888">of <font color="#442288">Shalott 01:58, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
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 * M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  04:38, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Jimmy Wales Jimbo I just wanted to tell you that I erased everything you ever edited, because I'm polite and don't want to bite you...Modernist (talk) 03:40, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Drmies, I think, and I want to move to Mongolia. Drmies (talk) 04:07, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Mandarax or whatever. I've heard that there's some great Mongolian beer. Modernist, it's likely that it was actually someone else who erased everything. We don't want to bite 'em, but lying to 'em is fine. Uncle G, as for what's dirty[,] grey and all over my talk page ... sounds like my brain.... M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  04:38, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Double sharp. LOL. Also, thanks for this. Double sharp (talk) 08:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Mandarax again. Thanks for thanking me for the thanks! I actually used one of your templates today. It was refreshing to be able to issue a warning I wouldn't be embarrassed by. (But the extreme amount of labor involved in manually issuing a warning really made me appreciate Twinkle.) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  08:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

That was embarassing.
Hi, I'm LadyofShalott, and I can't believe I did that. No, actually, I have no trouble believing I did that; what I can't believe is that I didn't realize and fix it. Thanks. <bad, bad LadyofShalott!> <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><font color="#cc2288">Lady <font color="#008888">of <font color="#442288">Shalott 03:02, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Mandarax. No reason at all to be embarrassed about that. Now misspelling "embarassing"... that may be embarrassing! Uh oh, I hope that wasn't too BITEY! Better throw in another "Hi, I'm Mandarax" just in case. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  03:12, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Pbbbbbt! lol I'd say this isn't my night, but the edit history makes the lie to that claim. Perhaps neither January 1 or August 17 are my wikidays. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><font color="#cc2288">Lady <font color="#008888">of <font color="#442288">Shalott 03:18, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * As I'm sure you know, there's very little about her online. I had looked before my first edit, discovering that Google returned over 1000 hits for "Lala de Cezique", but only about 150 for "Lala de Cizique". Most of the hits for both spellings are junk. But I saw something that made me think "Cizique" may be correct. I was just about to ask you if you still had access to the source, when I found it online. Oh, speaking of embarrassing, I had noticed that one of the hits was for my beloved Babylon 5; I just went to check that out, and found that it was actually Babylon 9 (translation software and dictionary tool). M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  04:06, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw your first edit, and went to find it in my Kindle again to check, but by the time I did, you'd already changed it back and moved the page. <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><font color="#cc2288">Lady <font color="#008888">of <font color="#442288">Shalott 04:29, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I added a "See also" link in Illuminated manuscript; hopefully that will be enough to prevent someone from slapping on an orphan tag. (On a related but unrelated tangent, I see that the orphan criteria have changed since the last time I looked. It used to be that links from "list" articles didn't count.) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  06:09, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm Drmies, and I am indeed frazzled. And again it's way too late--damn Mongolians and their religious system. Thanks Mandarax. Drmies (talk) 04:40, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've already introduced myself to the Lady, but Drmies, I'm Mandarax. You're welcome. And of course you're frazzled! I don't know how you find the time to create articles when you've got that beautiful new baby around. BTW, I haven't mentioned Jeopardy! in a while, but they just had a category about words with four vowels in a row; shockingly, reliquiae wasn't mentioned. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  05:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Mandarax, in case you don't remember me, I'm Drmies and I am an administrator on this site. If there is anyway in which I can help you please call me, at all hours of the day or night (I'm up anyway, or at least awake). On Latin: one of the reviews for the revised edition of Reliquiae remarked with great sadness that the prose hadn't improved--on one page of Peter's (Latin) commentary the reviewer still (shockingly!) found seven monosyllables in a row. I'm Drmies, goodbye. And have a blesséd day. Drmies (talk) 15:16, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Bgwhite, you may remember me from such Wikipedia pages as Lead Paint: Delicious But Deadly, List of people who died with tortoises on their head and Brokeback Mountain 2: The Slapfight at the OK corral. I'm following up on your followup of AWB edit summaries that summarized the previous article, but didn't and instead summarized the next article.  It took me awhile to figure out what you were summarizing about summarized edits.  But, it finally dawned on me what you were trying to say even though you didn't say it.  I've now downloaded the newest version of AWB and will attempt to have properly summarized edits for the current, past and any future articles in my list.  I'm Bgwhite, off to write the next article, Look who's talking 3 staring Mandarax, Lady, Drmies and a special appearance by Drmies Jr. Bgwhite (talk) 21:57, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I continue to be Mandarax. Yes, it can sometimes be challenging to decipher what I'm trying to say. I kinda left it to the bug report I linked to to explain it. I'm glad it got fixed and they got a snapshot up so soon. Although it never caused any problems for me, I imagine it led to many erroneous edit summaries. Another thing I hate is talking babies. (Is that what the Look Who's Talking movies were about?) I especially hate those E*Trade commercials. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  22:37, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello Mandarax! I am the editor who, once upon a time, wrote Codex Vindobonensis 751. I am also the editor who more or less promised you a picture of a palindrome. Now I am the editor who finally fulfilled that promise. Who am I? I'm Drmies! Drmies (talk) 18:31, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm Mandarax, who used to nag you about that. To quote Mr. Burns, "excellent"! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:39, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Ack!
I sometimes "Ack!". In case anyone wonders about the derivation of this, it comes from Bill the Cat. I was never a huge fan of Bill or the comics he appeared in, but I did appreciate a creature whose vocabulary consisted primarily of the word "Ack!". I suspect that LadyofShalott may be familiar with Bill; in the thread above, she uses "Pbbbbbt!", which is very similar to Bill's other catchphrase (and I believe the word varied, so that may be exactly one of his utterances). M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:26, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I am somewhat, but not very, familiar with Bill the Cat. I don't know where I picked up the pbbbt, but it could have been from Bill. :) <font face="Lucida Calligraphy"><font color="#cc2288">Lady <font color="#008888">of <font color="#442288">Shalott 00:18, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Casa Fenoglio-Lafleur is crying for your attention. Drmies (talk) 17:53, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Mandarax, I can't believe how much time it takes to produce something decent--Poema Morale is barely out of stub-status. My reference section has more characters than the body. But first we eat dinner. Drmies (talk) 23:37, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I wouldn't know about that, but I know how long it takes to produce something which strives to be decent. It's been a long time since I written anything, and I'd kinda like to get some done, but I just don't have the energy and motivation right now. I'll settle for the vicarious thrills of watching you create. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:54, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I bet you say that to all the mothers of your children. Are you sleeping well? Drmies (talk) 05:12, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I think it's a Good Thing that it's been a long time since someone who writes things such as "It's been a long time since I written anything" has written anything. No, not sleeping well, and that's without a newborn in the house! Still, I offer the lack of sleep as an excuse for the things I write, as well as for those I don't. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:26, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I know the reason you are not sleeping well. You have my sincerest sympathies and condolences that Burning Man came and went without you.  No mutant vehicles, no burning temples, no throwing caution and clothes to the wind, and no fun. Bgwhite (talk) 07:48, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. You may have the soul of a Burner. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  07:56, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Mandarax, I received a copy of Charlemagne's Admonitio generalis from my friend, the editor of that volume in the MGH series (order here). It'll knock you out for eight hours straight, guaranteed. Drmies (talk) 14:45, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I assume you'll be turning that red link blue. As for something to put me to sleep, I should get 2001: A Space Odyssey; that never fails to do the job. (BTW, I like that we have a page on stories set in a future now past.) M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  18:04, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see you did turn it blue, but by moving it rather than having to write it. M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:12, 11 September 2012 (UTC)