User talk:Mandarax/Archive 2

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 * Just Stopping by. Yours Truly, M.H. True Romance iS Dead  15:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC) 718smiley.png.

Re:Signing
Thanks for the heads up, its been a while since i've edited. Have a good one! Matty (talk) 12:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hehe, the whole current Enigmaman controversy started with his reaction to an unsigned !vote. I'm glad this went more smoothly! mandarax  •  xɐɹɐpuɐɯ  12:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
Hi, I came upon your userpage by chance and read your thoughts on vandalism. I think the vadalism patrols and admins in Wikipedia work far too hard, because they have been given antique tools. I started writing an article about it on my user page, but I wish some admins would start on their own and make a "Admin wish list" of additional tools that would save them effort. Then those tools will eventually get built. If you know other admins, please consider creating such a wishlist somewhere and I will add some computer thoughts to it and it may lead to tools that will mak elife harder for vandals. Cheers History2007 (talk) 00:17, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi. First, in case you think I'm an admin, I'm not. Yes, vandalism fighting is hard work and any tools to make it easier would certainly be appreciated. I read your article on Content protection. Have you considered taking your ideas to the Village pump? Good luck.


 * BTW, I like the Descartes joke on your user page! mandarax xɐɹɐpuɐɯ  02:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, History2007's user page is now a redlink, so I grabbed the joke out of the archives:
 * Rene Descartes goes to a bar and asks for a beer. Once he has finished his beer, the bar tender asks him: "would you like another beer?" Descartes answers: "I think not" at which point Descartes just evaporates away...
 *  M AN d ARAX •  XAЯA b ИA M  21:28, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, ok, I will think about the Village pump. I did not know about it. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 23:18, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

01C
Thank'ee much for joining! Your request has been approved and you are now a proud member of Wikipedia's only counter-vandalism cabal! Want a userbox to go along with it? (Also, we've got an InvisionFree board; check the cabal page.)  21655  ταλκ / 01ҁ 20:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the approval! Yes, I am proud to be a member. (Now, the rules are the same as for Fight Club, right?) User box is in place, although modified for uniformity. MANdARAX XAЯAbИAM (NOTЄ</FONT> <FONT COLOR="999900">ЭTOИ</FONT>)</SMALL> 01:38, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Chris Webster
Hi

I may be working with Chris Webster whose wiki you edited a bit. Great range of work on American Art, thanks. I am working on some art.videos, based out of London, UK. Sure to use this resource for inspiration:

search_maxusart

Camdentowner (talk) 19:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I only made a very minor edit to Chris Webster. I'm not familiar with his work at all. Good luck on your project.  <font color="00FF00">MANdARAX _<font color="FFFF00">XAЯAbИAM __<SMALL><FONT COLOR="00FF00">NOTЄ</FONT>_<FONT COLOR="FFFF00">ЭTOИ</FONT></SMALL>   20:09, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Fra Angelico
The vandalism goes on and on. What is the point? Why that article, in particular? Does some school system do a project on him, or what? What does one do to get it protected? Amandajm (talk) 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll never understand why people vandalize Wikipedia.


 * Maybe I'm just too used to seeing too much vandalism, but the Fra Angelico article doesn't seem to me to be having unusually high levels lately, and enough people have the page watchlisted that any vandalism seems to get reverted pretty quickly. But if you feel there's enough vandalism to warrant protection, you may request it at Requests for page protection. - <FONT COLOR="green">mandarax</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">xɐɹɐpuɐɯ</FONT> 07:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Removing dead link
I've removed a dead link today at List_of_minor_characters_in_Dilbert (not logged, from 217.172.29.23). Because dilbert.com changed design, this link will never work. You reverted this change, so can you restore my deleting? Sorry for editing pages without summary from anonymous ip. Lopatoid (talk) 00:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, but instead of deleting it entirely, I've replaced the dead link with a link to the main dilbert.com page. When anonymous IPs remove content without an edit summary, it's often vandalism. It really helps a lot to always leave a summary. Also, note that you could have taken care of it yourself, but I do appreciate your bringing this to my attention. <FONT COLOR="green">mandarax</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">xɐɹɐpuɐɯ</FONT> 01:03, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

204.8.199.97 (talk)
On 27 January, 204.8.199.97 (talk) performed some vandalism on Aerodynamics. I was about to post a caution message on the IP address Talk page but I saw that, on 16 January, you gave this User a final warning, saying that any future vandalism would cause the account to be blocked. It looks like the time has arrived for this IP address to be blocked! (Please let me know if I should draw this to the attention of some other User or WP address.) Dolphin51 (talk) 02:03, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi, you may report a vandal at Administrator intervention against vandalism (WP:AIV for short). However, in this case, a block is not called for (yet). One cannot generally assume that today's anonymous IP vandal is the same person who received a final warning eleven days ago. You should only report users who are actively vandalizing now, and have been sufficiently and recently warned. I have issued a level 2 warning to the user concerning the vandalism you mentioned. There's no firm rule about which level to use in situations like this. Just use your best judgment. Thanks for helping to fight the war against vandalism. <FONT COLOR="green">mandarax</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">xɐɹɐpuɐɯ</FONT> 03:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks Mandarax. Dolphin51 (talk) 06:29, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks-
Thanks for helping me with the WikiProject Tennessee templateRFD (talk) 20:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. <FONT COLOR="green">mandarax</FONT> <FONT COLOR="999900">xɐɹɐpuɐɯ</FONT> <SMALL>(<FONT COLOR="green">talk</FONT> <FONT COLOR="999900">ʞlɐʇ</FONT>)</SMALL> 20:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

An amusing dilemma
I reverted a couple of edits by an IP, and they retaliated by changing a number on my user page. Now, when this happens in an article, it's a form of vandalism which I particularly loathe because it's so insidious. In contrast, for example, when someone adds obscenities, it's obvious that the page has been vandalized. But subtly changing a number is a form of vandalism which often goes undetected for extended periods of time. However, in this case, the number in question was the count of the number of times my pages have been vandalized. This presented me with quite a philosophical contradiction. When they vandalized my page by incrementing my vandalism count by one, the user had actually made an accurate edit. Then, was this vandalism? If so, I should revert the edit, but then I would proceed to increment my vandalism tally, putting it right back where it was. How can it be vandalism when the result after dealing with it is identical? But if it wasn't vandalism, that would mean that the number was wrongly incremented, meaning that it was vandalism. I've decided to let the number stand as is. MANdARAX •  XAЯAbИAM  11:23, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Your note
Heh. Thanks for the heads-up. Will go read all about it tomorrow. Thanks, too, for the encouragement. LilHelpa (talk) 04:11, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Arthur McIntyre
Interestingly, looking at the category "English wicketkeerper", in spite of your correction to the defaultsort, John MacLean (English cricketer) appears before Arthur McIntyre, when if I understand it correctly he ought to come afterwards, since I precedes L. JH (talk page) 10:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)


 * That's because I hadn't gotten around to correcting the DEFAULTSORT for John MacLean (English cricketer) yet. I've now fixed that one too, and they display in the correct order in Category:English wicket-keepers. Thanks for pointing it out.  <font color="00FF00">MANdARAX <font color="00CCFF"> • <font color="FFFF00">XAЯAbИAM  10:29, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Hello, thank you for correcting my two spelling errors on the Bianca Riario article. Having lived here in Italy for so many years, I occasionally forget my English spelling! Thanks again.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 06:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. mandarax  •  xɐɹɐpuɐɯ  06:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks, Mandarax, for your welcome message. I used to have an account, but have gone out to pasture, and return only to perpetrate occasional minor contributions. Cheers, 99.184.128.247 (talk) 22:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, those contributions are appreciated. Keep up the good work. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 22:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Elijah McCoy
I note that you changed the default sort to "Elijah Maccoy", which I believe is inconsistent with the spelling of his name. I don't know why you made the change (AGF), so I didn't revert it. But it seems wrong to me. Please take a look and see if you got it right. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 14:39, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Stan
 * Strange as it may seem, the sorting I changed it to, Maccoy, Elijah, is correct. I figured that people might wonder about this, which is why I include a link to WP:Categorization of people in the Edit summary when I correct any "irregular" DEFAULTSORT (or listas on talk pages). The relevant passage is:
 * Thanks for not reverting it even though you suspected that it might be incorrect. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 19:27, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Given your edit history, you bear the presumption of credibility to me. It would have been patently unwise to proceed precipitously.  I recognize that wikipedia is a lot like life, and who you are is more important than any one edit.  And who you are may explain the edit entirely. Thanks for explaining what you did, as some of us are not conversant with the convention.  Best to you.  21:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC) Stan
 * Thanks for your nice note. BTW, I've also changed the listas in WPBiography on Talk:Elijah McCoy. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 22:39, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your nice note. BTW, I've also changed the listas in WPBiography on Talk:Elijah McCoy. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 22:39, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Adding links
I have added links to the Mildred Thompson page that include lists for "notable people from Jacksonville","notable people from Tampa", "Howard University Alumni" and the article for "expatriate." Is this enough to take the Mildred Thompson article out of the orphaned category? If not, your recommendations, please? Glassnote (talk) 19:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The Expatriate link helped. Unfortunately, the "list" pages do not count when determining Orphan status. However, I have added a link to Mildred Thompson in the article Art Papers, making three non-list articles linking to the page. I have removed the Orphan tag. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 20:41, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Mandarax. I had put Mildred Thompson on some other Wikipedia lists as were appropriate, but as you point out, they do not count as links. I think that I could put her name on the James A. Porter page and the Audre Lorde page, both of them were important to her (M.T. was a protege of the first and a lover of the second), but the biographies on those pages do not go into much depth. I don't think it would be appropriate to stick something about M.T. in there without building up the Porter and Lorde articles a heck of a lot more. Laziness triumphs for now. Glassnote (talk) 18:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 19:00, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Changing last names to wrong spelling (fix listas per WP:Categorization of people#Other exceptions using AWB)
I know this was probably an accident because you were using AWB, but I wanted to lent you know that you had incorrectly changed a couple of last names in the (WP:Categorization of people). So far I have found three examples the talk page for David McReynolds where you changed the last name to the incorrect spelling (Macreynolds) and the Cynthia McKinney article and talk page were you changed the spelling of the last name to (Mackinney). It's no big deal, but I wanted to lent you know about these errors. Highground79 (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Please see my response above, to the second topic before yours, pertaining to Elijah McCoy. The edits I made were, in fact, correct. As I mention above, I include a link to WP:Categorization of people in the Edit summary to explain my edits which may seem peculiar but are correct. The pages are now back to the correct sorting (I undid two, and someone else had already taken care of the other one). The rules for sorting names are complex. Thanks for letting me know about your concerns. Also, note that, even rapidly editing using AWB, I inspect every edit before I save it. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 22:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Error
Apologies if I don't understand the talkpage coding correctly, but why did you change McPherson to Macpherson at Talk:John McPherson? Timeshift (talk) 07:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


 * It is not an error. It is the correct way to sort the name. See the link which I included in the Edit summary, WP:Categorization of people, where it explains:
 * I have undone your reversion, so it is once again correct. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 08:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have undone your reversion, so it is once again correct. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 08:13, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Mac/Mc
Well, I have to say that's a bizarre sorting method! Can't really deduce the internal mechanisms and benefits from doing it that way... Sillyfolkboy (talk) 00:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree that it is somewhat bizarre, but it is the correct way to do it here. I guess it's because McDonald and MacDonald are often really two different ways of spelling the same name, so they should be listed together. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 06:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

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Listas changes
My apologies, I didn't read the rules for sort keys before I started making changes. Thanks for fixing my errors. You should have said something to me earlier, I would have changed my ways (earlier, that is).

Thanks! Matt (talk) 07:26, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, as a matter of fact, I was just in the middle of writing you a note when I received yours. I'll just abandon that note now. Thanks for graciously accepting my corrections. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 07:33, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem. Don't be afraid to take a whack at me if I get out of line.  Matt (talk) 08:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hehe, funny thing is, I began writing you another note on your talk page about hyphens. I took one more look at your contributions before I was going to save it, and I saw that you had already corrected the incorrect corrections, so I abandoned that note too. Keep up the good work. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 08:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Mc/Mac
I have noticed in my watchlist your edits indexing "McX" ans "macx", and just wanted to drop a quick note to say "good work". In my earlier days as editor, I spent a lot of time trying to do this, but had little support. I'm pleased to see that the guidelines now recommend this as standard practice for indexing on wikipedia (as it is elsewhere), and it's great to see an editor devoting so much energy to implementimg it. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:13, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your note. It's nice to know that my efforts are appreciated.


 * I'm not surprised that you didn't get much support when you worked on this. I expected to encounter some resistance, but putting a link to the Wikipedia guidelines in all of the Edit summaries helped, and out of all of the DEFAULTSORT and listas corrections I've done to Mc/Mac articles and talk pages (I estimate I've fixed about seven thousand of them), I've only discovered a few instances in which my edits were erroneously reverted. <FONT COLOR="green">mandarax</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">xɐɹɐpuɐɯ</FONT> 08:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * 7,000? That's a lot of work!  But there must be tens of thousands left.
 * Are you using some sort of bot or script? If not, it may be worth asking at WP:BOTREQ whether anyone can help. There are lots of very helpful bot-owners out there, some of whom are very clever programmers. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:07, 8 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I did a lot of them manually, but I couldn't have done the vast majority without the assistance of AWB. I had considered applying to do it with a bot account, but as it is now, I inspect every edit before I save it, and I find that a small but significant percentage benefit from a human taking care of irregular situations. Thanks for the suggestion, and I may consider going that route at some point. <FONT COLOR="green">mandarax</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">xɐɹɐpuɐɯ</FONT> 19:05, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

The work of deleting IP vandalism on chem element pages
Since you're involved, I wonder if you'd like to comment on this discussion on semi-protection for element articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elements Thanks! S B Harris 23:43, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmmm, I'm not sure what you mean when you say I'm "involved".... I may have reverted vandalism on some "element" articles, but if so, I don't recall any specifics, and it would've just been part of general vandalism scans -- I don't have any element articles watchlisted. While I do find IP vandalism frustrating, one of the core principles of Wikipedia is that anybody can edit, so I would generally not favor protecting articles unless the level of vandalism justified it. Good luck. <FONT COLOR="green">mandarax</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">xɐɹɐpuɐɯ</FONT> 00:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, what level of vandalism do you think justifies it? 10% of edits? 20%? 30%? It's typically more than 30% for school edits. As for the "core principle" that anyone can edit Wikipedia, you'll find it more honored in the breatch than the observers, I'm afraid. For example, most of the BLPs of WMF employees are sprotected, while other heavily vandalized bios of living people are left chronically unprotected. Mostly you'll find that articles sprotected by admins are special interests that the admins just got tired of watching. See the sprotection history of Kiev for example. Wikipedia in practice does not follow its own stated policies, and never has. In practice, any rule is changed locally whenever anybody gets annoyed and has the power to do it. S  B Harris 00:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Mac sorting
Thanks for this. I had no idea. I am learning new thingees every day at WP. Bearian (talk) 19:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Judging from the number of pages I've been fixing, a lot of people are unaware of the Mc/Mac sorting guidelines. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 19:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

A Comun Mistake
Hi there. I was going back through the history of Uncontacted peoples edit by edit (if you ask me why, I might have to go and figure that out, so please don't), and I noticed that you and others using AWB made this edit. I changed it back to the correct spelling, which is not the same as in English. This can be verified here. Also I want to thank you for the fact that I am still laughing at your 'Amusing Dilemma', and probably will every time I think of it. Eleven even (talk) 12:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC) Clarification: I only changed the place names, by hand. I let your other spelling fixes stand. Eleven even (talk) 12:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for correcting my error and for notifying me about it. I'm usually very careful to recognize words which AWB thinks are misspelled English words but are actually correct foreign words; in this case I obviously missed it.


 * I'm glad you appreciated my Amusing dilemma. <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 18:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. And I did just laugh again....  Also:  Good signers borrow.  Great signers steal.  Thank you.  <FONT COLOR="green">ElEvEn EvEN</FONT><FONT COLOR="#ffcc33">И3v3 n3v3l3</FONT> 19:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. If you don't mind my making a suggestion, I'd recommend:
 * <FONT COLOR="green">Єlєvє<SMALL>N</SMALL> єvє<SMALL>N</SMALL></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ffcc33">иэvэ иэvэl3</FONT>
 * which produces: <FONT COLOR="green">Єlєvє<SMALL>N</SMALL> єvє<SMALL>N</SMALL></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ffcc33">иэvэ иэvэl3</FONT>
 * <FONT COLOR="green">MANdARAX</FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900">XAЯAbИAM</FONT> 19:40, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I.....really.....like that. I flatter you some more.  Though, using a Spectrophotometer, you will notice that I've raised the 3rd couplet of the hex value for the second (yellow) color by 9.  I do maintain some originality!  <FONT COLOR="green">Єlєvє<SMALL>N</SMALL> єvє<SMALL>N</SMALL></FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ffcc42">иэvэ иэvэl3</FONT> 19:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
 * And here's the final daily build. I feel so much realer as a Wikipedian now!  I mean because I stayed up all night editing, and started using Twinkle.  But the sig gives me fuzzies for sure.  <FONT COLOR="#006633">Єlєvє<SMALL>N</SMALL> єvє<SMALL>N</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="#cc9900">|</FONT><FONT COLOR="#006633">|</FONT><FONT COLOR="#cc9900">иэvэ иэvэl3</FONT> 20:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Helping you with your signature inspired me to update mine yet again. If I had it to do over again, I might've selected a username which was better suited to this sort of thing. Oh, well. Anyways, congratulations on your beautiful new signature! <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 22:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

46 or 47 X vandalism
Depending on how you count. Unless your counter is automatic, you need to update it. I followed up, and got WP:AIV involved, and they took appropriate steps. Happy editing. 7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 16:33, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Stan


 * Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page, and for getting the vandal blocked! <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 17:09, 31 March 2009 (UTC)


 * That name was a dead give away -- he came alookin' for trouble. He was a vandal "to the max", but his max came up sooner than he might have expected.  Usually they don't wear such a large target.  So was that 46 or 47?  Hah-hah.  Just kidding.  Glad to have your back, so to speak.  7&amp;6=thirteen (talk) 18:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Stan

Talkback
–Drilnoth (T • C) 17:41, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: About ListasBot
Thanks for the heads up. I'll hold off running ListasBot again (or at least the portion of it that makes changes to listas entries, since I have ListasBot 2 open for approval) until we get a resolution on that issue. Matt (talk) 02:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, no biggie. Magioladitis had actually suggested some changes that would become ListasBot 2, so that's been at least keeping my computer busy.  Matt (talk) 00:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Duncan McNair
I want to add Duncan McNair http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Duncan_McNair,_3rd_Baron_McNair&action=edit&redlink=1 to WP but don't know where to start. I see you have edited http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_McNair,_1st_Baron_McNair (his grandfather?) so I thought you might be the right person to ask, when it comes to entries for Lords etc. Here's info on him http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/people/mr-duncan-mcnair Johnalexwood (talk) 22:39, 23 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I'm not the right person to ask about this. My only contribution to Arnold McNair, 1st Baron McNair was to edit the DEFAULTSORT and category sort keys, and, although I made them more correct than they were to start with, I don't think I got them completely right. I've been fixing the sorting on thousands of Mc/Mac names, but I've usually been skipping nobility because I'm never quite sure of the rules. Having said that, my unqualified opinion is that Duncan McNair, 3rd Baron McNair looks right, and if it's not, I'm sure that someone knowledgeable will move it to the correct place. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 23:40, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox for user warnings
Would you please copy the small text on User:Sandbox for user warnings to User talk:Sandbox for user warnings, I would do it myself but I want to make it crystal clear that it is your words and not mine.--Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 14:41, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I can think of no reason why that text should be there. People using the talk page to make test edits don't need to be distracted by a note about who created the account, and anyone wishing to know can go to the user page, just as you did. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 19:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Leo McGarry and sorting
Hi!

I saw this edit and it confused me (easily none, I'm afraid!) It looks wrong to me (  '''), but I suspect there's a technical reason for it - is there?

Cheers, <b style="color:#000">This flag once was red</b>propagandadeeds 19:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I've just realised what it is. I'm slow sometimes! It's so that "McX" and "MacX" appear before "Ma"s. That'll teach me not to pay attention to edit summaries. Cheers, <b style="color:#000">This flag once was red</b>propagandadeeds 19:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Hehe. Thanks for coming here instead of reverting it when you thought it might be wrong. If you're interested in the reasoning behind this sorting rule, check out a couple of discussions at WT:Categorization of people. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 19:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem, your edit summary looked too sensible to be vandalism, so I figured it was either a mistake (in which you deserved the courtesy of a nudge) or I was being stupid (in which case asking you about it would serve to educate me). As it happens, your edit summary was even more sensible than I first thought - and with its help I eventually figured it out! I'm a techy person in real life, so I do kind of understand the logic behind it (I'm one of those strange people who quite like "2009-05-12" dates, for example, because they're logical). Cheers, and apologies for the noise on your talk page! <b style="color:#000">This flag once was red</b>propagandadeeds 19:30, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * BTW, thanks for the link to WP:No self attacks. I hadn't seen that before, and it was amusing. But your "being stupid" comment raises a red flag. If this sort of behavior continues, you may have to report your self attacks to yourself. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 19:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Thanks
No problem! It was actually an editor who I respect - I normally wouldn't monitor or revert their edits - so I left them a message explaining why I'd reverted. They're happy with the explanation ;-)

Cheers, <b style="color:#000">This flag once was red</b>propagandadeeds 10:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Mac-Luhan
Sorry for making what I thought was a typo correction! This time I followed your link and discovered this Mac/Mc sorting stuff - new to me, but makes total sense. Live and learn! Cheers Tvoz / talk 20:32, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. I agree that it may look like a typo. Thanks for taking the time to check the link in the edit summary instead of changing it again. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 20:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I would have checked the first time, but since it said "added listas" I  didn't even notice the link!  Tvoz / talk 20:45, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Bad Locobot edit
Ups, it seem like a bug in the AWB, thanks for reverting my bot :D Locos ~ epraix Beaste~praix 18:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I thought that might be the case, and I had tried reproducing it with AWB, but it didn't do it for me. Maybe I just didn't have the correct settings to reproduce it. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 18:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Re hoax sockpuppets
I moved the archived discussions and the current one to another page and have it on my watchlist. — Athaenara ✉  04:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. As you may recall, I had asked you several times whether you wanted me to continue reporting to you about the Martinez & Caldwell saga. I probably won't bother updating the new page, unless you'd like me to. I'll continue to monitor for the appearance of the hoax, and report it through "normal" channels. Although lately, other people have been taking care of it before I find it. It used to be that the page would hang around for hours until I discovered it, but maybe more people have become aware of it and are also looking out for it. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 06:12, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yup, I appreciated the updates, I just relocated them. — Athaenara  ✉  20:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

DEFAULTSORT capitalization
--Pascal666 18:49, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I added my opinion. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 19:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Do you know anyone who would be able to answer the remaining open questions?  --Pascal666 20:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No, sorry I don't. Perhaps someone who's contributed to WP:CAT or its talk page? <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 22:48, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Tom McRae page
Hi - apologies if I'm wrong but I think, checking the "History" that you were the person who added a compilation album "Sad Songs for the Left Hand Alone - B Sides and other Rarities" to the Tom McRae page. As far as I know this album doesn't yet exist although it's a very lovely thought. "Kapercaillie (talk) 13:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)" Hi again. Found out that it's a bootleg so have taken it off "Kapercaillie (talk) 15:35, 3 June 2009 (UTC)"
 * No, I didn't do that. was to correct the DEFAULTSORT. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 17:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Jean Girard
Hi, I moved the request to Sockpuppet investigations/Jean Girard. A clerk will look at it and determine if CheckUser is warranted. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 21:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
I was just looking into how to address vandalism, but when I got to the talk page of 203.152.103.242, I see you are already on it. --Sphilbrick (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. In case you're unfamiliar with user warnings, see WP:Template messages/User talk namespace. For general information on how to respond to vandalism, see WP:Vandalism. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 19:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

You have been nominated for membership of the Established Editors Association
The Established editors association will be a kind of union of who have made substantial and enduring contributions to the encyclopedia for a period of time (say, two years or more). The proposed articles of association are here - suggestions welcome.

If you wish to be elected, please notify me here. If you know of someone else who may be eligible, please nominate them here

Discussion is here.Peter Damian (talk) 20:00, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Established Editors
Discussion of objectives here. Peter Damian (talk) 20:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: Careless Reverting
Sorry about that I apologize. Sweetness46 (talk) 19:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. I must say that I found your revert of to be somewhat amusing. I can just imagine them dedicating a plague in the guy's honor! <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 19:27, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

What the hell?
I vandalized the page to bring it to somebody's attention and now it has been, and you won't even listen to me, you delete my comments from your talk page? That article, on Bernice Baier, is a FRAUD, a phony page invented, nobody named Bernice Baier existed as described in the article.

Just look at the Bernice Baier page, it links to her supposed father and husband, and yet she isn't mentioned on either of those pages. Seem fishy? Check the sources of the article, she isn't listed in either!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.7.25.131 (talk) 05:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * If you want people to notice what you're saying, there are better ways of doing it than vandalizing the article and my talk page. That is generally a way to ensure that nobody will take you seriously.


 * Please see WP:HOAX, WP:PROD, or WP:AFD for proper ways to deal with such situations. Or just leave a message on an admin's talk page, rationally explaining your concerns.


 * Now that you have communicated in a more constructive way, I looked at the situation.


 * Another very suspicious thing about the article is that its creation was the only contribution by its author, and there were no other substantive contributions to it by anybody else. For now, I'll put a Hoax tag on the article. Feel free to nominate it for PROD or AFD. But please don't use vandalism as a way of getting people's attention. <FONT COLOR="green">M<SMALL>AN</SMALL>d<SMALL>ARAX</SMALL></FONT><FONT COLOR="6600FF"> • </FONT><FONT COLOR="999900"><SMALL>XAЯA</SMALL>b<SMALL>ИA</SMALL>M</FONT> 07:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)