User talk:Mandishaa

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May 2018
Thank you for your contributions. It seems that you may have added public domain content to one or more Wikipedia articles, such as W. R. Grace and Company. You are welcome to import appropriate public domain content to articles, but in order to meet the Wikipedia guideline on plagiarism, such content must be fully attributed. This requires not only acknowledging the source, but acknowledging that the source is copied. There are several methods to do this described at Plagiarism, including the usage of an attribution template. Please make sure that any public domain content you have already imported is fully attributed. Thank you. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:29, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Diannaa, this user seems to be dumping an entire SEC database into our articles as references. What to do? Drmies (talk) 00:54, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Diannaa for reminding me, I have reviewed the information you have provided. I will make sure the Wikipedia policy is strictly followed. Mandishaa (talk) 01:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Drmies I am adding the more detailed information with verifiable official resources to the events. The source is the most accurate information for public companies, but hard to find given huge volume of filings. Please let me know if you think this is not helpful to the community, and I will follow the advices. Mandishaa (talk) 01:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I do hope to contribute to the community. Diannaa and Drmies, please let me know if I can do better, thanks in advance.Mandishaa (talk) 01:29, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Mandishaa, this is an encyclopedia whose references should be secondary, not primary. "Official" resources really doesn't mean a lot here. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 01:30, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Drmies, I might have different opinion, especially for the fact like when an corporate event happened, it should be considered as reliable resource, and there is little room to deviate as secondary source, and if you look at the reference not from official filings, you will find lot of source are purely copied from SEC filing or just press release. I still think, adding the reliable source with more background info is very helpful for readers, at least to me as an analyst of corporate finance. @Diannaa what do you think? --Mandishaa (talk) 02:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Mandishaa. Could you please explain who owns and runs secdatabase.com, what it does, and your relationship to them? --Ronz (talk) 03:45, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Ronz, secdatabase.com company is based in Chicago, and it has the complete EDGAR database including the filings deleted/withdrew, and provide tools to research the filings. I am currently a graduate student and had been used it since 2012, The company started to build a paywall couple of years ago for certain tools. I complained about it and they opened the access to the education domain including my university's. As I have the right tool to do the research, you can see I am very efficient in finding the right information. If you think there is potential problem, I can use the url to sec site (sec.gov) and avoid the document from this site, although it could slow the process. If you want, I can send you their contact information from my college email address. thanks. Mandishaa (talk) 04:56, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Sec.gov or other official websites are preferred to a site that's scraping the info. Secdatabase.com's lack of information on who they are and what they do is a huge red flag when it comes to judging the reliability of the information they provide. --Ronz (talk) 15:15, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ronz. I will use the sec.gov as preferred whenever the information can be easily digged out - the problem is that sec.gov has very limited search capability which covers only filings in last four years, while secdatabase.com has powerful full-text search tools that cover full EDGAR history including many deleted filings, and secdatabase has the macro(javascript function) to auto-generate the link based on the user-defined template - it is supper convenient to create wikipedia citation text block in right format.