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Dear Wikipedia management,

In my view, Wikipedia should not give wrong statements.

In Wikipedia, there are few wrong statements, published about Ezhava, under the heading Ezhava. Wikipedia is not allowing to correct it by editing it.

A)	Therefore, I request Wikipedia management to delete the wrong statements, published under Ezhava.

In Wikipedia, you can see that Wikipedia has published as given below, under the heading Ezhava:

The Ezhavas are a community with origins in the region of India presently known as Kerala, where in the 2010s they constituted about 23% of the population and were reported to be the largest Hindu community.[1][2] They are also known as Ilhava, Irava, Izhava and Erava in the south of the region; as Chovas, Chokons and Chogons in Central Travancore; and as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas in the Malabar region.[3][4][5] Some are also known as Thandan, which has caused administrative difficulties due to the presence of a distinct caste of Thandan in the same region.[6][7] The Malabar Thiyyar group have claimed a higher ranking in the Hindu caste system than do the others, although from the perspective of the colonial and subsequent administrations they were treated as being of similar rank.[3][8]

Thiyyar dynasties such as the Mannanar existed in Kerala.[9] The Chekavar, a warrior section within the Thiyyar community, served the army of the Chera dynasty; there were also renowned Kalaripayattu experts among Chekavars.[10][11] Martial traditions

Some Thiyyar served in army of local chieftains and local rulers such as of Kadathanad and Kurumbranad of Kerala, who were privileged in the pre-colonial period to have their own private armies.[21]

Chekavar A subgroup of the Thiyyas considered themselves to be warriors and became known as the Chekavars. The Vadakkan Pattukal ballads describe Chekavars as forming the militia of local chieftains and kings but the title was also given to experts of Kalari Payattu.[22]

Poorakkali Poorakkali is a folk dance prevalent among the Ezhavas of Malabar, usually performed in Bhagavathy temples as a ritual offering during the month of Meenam (March–April). Poorakkali requires specially trained and highly experienced dancers, trained in Kalaripayattu. Standing round a traditional lamp, the performers dance in eighteen different stages and rhythms, each phase called a niram.[27][page needed]

The following statement given below, mentioned in Ezhava has to be deleted from that in Wikipedia, which are wrong.

1)      " and as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas in the Malabar region “ (given in the 5th line about the description of Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a) It is a wrong statement. Ezhavas are not known as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) in Malabar region.

b) Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is a different community called Thiyya.

Spellings of Thiyya:

Thiyya is also spelled in English as Thiyya, Thiyyar, Tiyyas, Theeyas, Thiyyan, Thiyyas, Thiyyer, Theeyya, Theeyyar, Thiya, Tiya and Tiyya.

In Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Thiyya differently in English.

Thiyya community belongs to Hindu religion is found thickly populated in the north Malabar region of Kerala state and Mahe in Pondicherry state of India. Few are also found in some parts of Trichur and Palakkad districts of Kerala state.

North Malabar region consists of Kasargod, Kannur, Kozhikode, Wayanad and Malappuram districts of Kerala state and Mahe of Pondicherry state of India.

Thiyya comprise of about 70% population among Malayalam speaking Hindus in north Malabar region of Kerala state and about 80% of Malayalam speaking Hindus in Mahe in Pondicherry.

From these places, Thiyya community has migrated to, rest of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Telungana, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Delhi and other states of India and all Arabian Gulf countries, like UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc and rest of the world.

Malabar region were under Madras province of India, under British rule, before Indian independence. A small place called Thangacheri in Kollam district was also under British rule, before independence of India.

Malabar region consists of Kasargod, Kannur, Kozhikode, Waynad, Malappuram, Trichur and Palakkad districts of Kerala state and Mahe in Pondicherry state, India.

The rest of Kerala state was under Travancore and Kochi kingdoms and were not under British rule before Indian independence.

Travancore and Kochi kingdoms consists of present Thiruvananthapuram, Kollom, Pathanamthitta, Alappuzha, Kottayam, Idukki and Ernakulum districts of Kerala state.

Thiyya community was not found in Travancore and Kochi Kingdoms, earlier. Now, after Indian Independence, person belongs to Thiyya community is also working and settled in Thiruvananthapuram, Kollom, Pathanamthitta, Alappuzha, Kottayam, Idukki and Ernakulum districts of Kerala state also, but are very rare.

India got Independence in 15th August 1947 from British. The Kerala state of India was formed in 1956.

Kerala state comprises of Malabar region of Madras state, Travancore and Kochi Kingdoms.

c) Ezhava community is a different community.

Ezhava is spelled in many ways such as Ezhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Ezhavan, Ezhuva,  Izhuva,   Ishuva, Izhuvan, Ishuvan, Ezhuvan, Izhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Illuva,   Illuvan,   Irava and Iruva.

In Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Ezhava differently in English.

d) There is no relation between Thiyya community (Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas) and Ezhava community.

e) Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes by Government of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Kerala state of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Pondicherry state of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Tamil Nadu states of India.

f) Thiyya community is listed at sl. no.185 of Mandal Commission report list of Kerala state and at sl. no. 222 of Mandal commission report of Pondicherry state in India.

g) Thiyya community is not having any sub caste or Thiyya is not a sub caste of any other community.

h) Difference between Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) and Ezhava communities:

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is a peculiar Hindu community, whose culture, Gods and Goddess, way of worship, rituals, social status, marriage customs, marriage divorce rituals of Thiyya, birth and death ceremonies, Kazhakam system of Thiyya (court), food habits, spoken language Malayalam slang is having Kannada words and Kannada slang etc are entirely different from any other Malayalam speaking, Hindu communities of India.

There were no Ezhava in north Malabar (British ruled region), earlier. Ezhava is from Travancore and Kochi kingdoms area.

Ezhava’s social status, marriage customs, food habits, spoken language Malayalam slang of Ezhava is having Tamil words and are mixed with a Tamil slang etc are entirely different from Thiyya community.

i) Specialty of Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community culture:

Thiyya worship their Gods and Goddess in the form of Theyyam.

Thiyya offer liquor, fish, mutton and chicken to their gods and goddesses during pooja (rituals).

Ezhava do not offer liquor, fish, mutton and chicken to their gods and goddesses during pooja (rituals) or worship.

Ezhava never worship gods and goddess in the form of Theyyem.

Ezhava never eat Fish, Mutton and Chicken on festivals.

Thiyya eat fish, mutton and chiken on festivals and it is a must.

Name of some gods and goddess and types of gods Thiyya worship are:

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community worship, Muthappan, TheeChamundi, Patichamumdi, Gulikan, PooKuttichathan, Chattakuttichathan or Shasthappan, Bhiravan, Uchitta, Paradevatha, Valiya Bhagavathi, Cheriya Bhagavathi, Ponmakan, Ponmakal, Pothi, Poomala Bhagavathi, Thamburatti, KarimKali, Vazhunnor, Karanavanmar, Gurikkanmar, Mannappan, Raman, Vayanattu kulavan, Bali, Sugreevan, Hanuman, Bappuran, Daivathar, Vettakoru makan, Angakkaran, Kandanar Kelan, Pottan, Kandarkarnan, Vasoorimala, Kathivanoor veeran and so many other Theyyems and its vellattam  in the form of Theyyams.

Theyyam is performed in their Kavu (temple) or in their house. These Theyyems are not having any idols. Their weapons (Sword, Bow and arrow) etc. are worshipped in Kavu.

Thiyya community also worship their Karanavanmar (great respected Thiyya elders), Gurukkanmar (Guru or teacher of Kalari), Vazhunnor (Thiyya king, named Mannanar), and other great Thiyya personalities in the form of their Theyyam.

J) Social status of Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya):

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) were found doing many kinds of jobs, such as King (Mannanar, was the last Thiyya king, till 1902 of Thiyya dynesty), soldiers, officers, ministers, land owners, farmers and cultivators, small scale industrial owners, beaten rice, jiggery manufactures and its workers, contractors, mooppan (team lead) , mason, building construction workers, eerayi (wood cutter and wood slicer), handloom cloth weavers and owners, beedi and cigar workers and owners, stone quarry owners and stone cutters and workers, liquor (Tody and Arack) manufactures and its workers, business men, teachers, lawyers, Magistrates, Poojaries (priest). Thiyyers were expert Ayurvedic vaidyars (doctors), Vishaharies (who treat for snake poison) and Manthravadi (black magic performer), Kalari payattu gurus (teacher), Circus company owners and its circus team etc.

Sri Churyayi Kanaran, was Deputy Collector of South Malabar, of British India from 1859 to 1869. He is from Kanoth family, a Thiyya from Thalassery, Kannur. He was also Mayor of Tellichery after his retirement. He was the only person got his last pay, in his service as his pension after retirement from British Government. He was so efficient administrator.

Mayor of French Mahe was also a Thiyya, during French rule.

French Army had a Regiment called Thiyya Regiment during those days.

k) Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) never asks or demand or give or take dowry in any form, during their marriage. No pleasing system of groom’s family by bride’s family by giving money or motor cycle or car or house etc or in any other form.

Ezhava demand, asks, take and give dowry during their marriage.

l) Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is not having any sub caste or Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is not a sub caste of any other community.

m) History of Ezhava:

Ezhavas were untouchables in south Kerala (Travancore and Kochi Kingdom), until 1925 ( Till, Temple entry strike called, Vaikom satyagraham or Skhetra praveshana samaram, during 1924-25, was finished and succeeded by Ezhava ).

But, Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) communities had their own temples in each rich Thiyya families for their worship, in north Kerala (Malabar region under British), from ancient times. Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) poojari’s known as Madayan, Komaram, Aayathar; Embran etc perform the puja rituals in these temples or Kavu from ancient times. These Thiyya poojaries (priest) must be a married man.

Moreover, Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is a Khshtriya.

So Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community feels very bad, when any one type Thiyya, Thiyya appears under Ezhava in Wikipedia. With this statement in Wikipedia, it gives a mental torture to Thiyya community. Thiyya feels that they have been insulted by clubbing under Ezhava in Wikipedia.

2) Where in the 2010s they (Ezhava) constituted about 23% of the population and were reported to be the largest Hindu community. (Given in the 2nd line about the description of Ezhava published in Wikipedia under Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is wrong.

b) This 23% includes Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya), Thandan, Chovan and Ezhava.

c) Ezhava alone there may be about 9% only in Kerala . 3) The Malabar Thiyyar group has claimed a higher ranking in the Hindu caste system than do the others, although from the perspective of the colonial and subsequent administrations they were treated as being of similar rank. (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

4) Thiyyar dynasties such as the Mannanar existed in Kerala.[9] The Chekavar, a warrior section within the Thiyyar community, served the army of the Chera dynasty; there were also renowned Kalaripayattu experts among Chekavars [10][11]. (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

5) Chekavar

A subgroup of the Thiyyas considered them selves to be warriors and became known as the Chekavars. The Vadakkan Pattukal ballads describe Chekavars as forming the militia of local chieftains and kings but the title was also given to experts of Kalari Payattu.[22] (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

6) Poorakkali

Poorakkali is a folk dance prevalent among the Ezhavas of Malabar, usually performed in Bhagavathy temples as a ritual offering during the month of Meenam (March–April). Poorakkali requires specially trained and highly experienced dancers, trained in Kalaripayattu. Standing round a traditional lamp, the performers dance in eighteen different stages and rhythms, each phase called a niram.[27][page needed] (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

b) Poorakkali is a folk dance of Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya).

B) I may please be permitted to write about Thiyya community, in a separate heading under Thiyya separately  and to publish in Wikipedia.

I belong to Thiyya community from Kannur, Kerala, India and aged 68 years, retired from ONGC Ltd. as Superintending Engineer.

Reason for creation:

a) If one type Thiyya in Wikipedia, it specify about Ezhava and giving wrong statement about Thiyya community.

b) So Thiyya feels very bad, when any one type Thiyya, Thiyya appears under Ezhava in Wikipedia and we are not allowed to edit it by Wikipedia.

c) With this statement in Wikipedia, it gives a mental torture to Thiyya community. Thiyya feels that they have been insulted by clubbing under Ezhava in Wikipedia.

d) There is no relation between Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) and Ezhava in any manner.

C) If any one type Thiyya in Wikipedia, only Thiyya should come on the screan and describe only about Thiyya community, in future. It is a request to Wikipedia.

Note:

Christians in Italy eat beef, if one go to east of Italy, people in Turkey also eat beef, so, Turkish are also known as Christans. Is this statement correct?

No. Turkish are Muslims and Italians are Christians. Both are 2 different communities.

So, kindly do the needful. Regards. Mangool Kanakath Surendran

Dear Wikipedia management,

In my view, Wikipedia should not give wrong statements.

In Wikipedia, there are few wrong statements, published about Ezhava, under the heading Ezhava. Wikipedia is not allowing to correct it by editing it.

A)	Therefore, I request Wikipedia management to delete the wrong statements, published under Ezhava.

In Wikipedia, you can see that Wikipedia has published as given below, under the heading Ezhava:

The Ezhavas are a community with origins in the region of India presently known as Kerala, where in the 2010s they constituted about 23% of the population and were reported to be the largest Hindu community.[1][2] They are also known as Ilhava, Irava, Izhava and Erava in the south of the region; as Chovas, Chokons and Chogons in Central Travancore; and as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas in the Malabar region.[3][4][5] Some are also known as Thandan, which has caused administrative difficulties due to the presence of a distinct caste of Thandan in the same region.[6][7] The Malabar Thiyyar group have claimed a higher ranking in the Hindu caste system than do the others, although from the perspective of the colonial and subsequent administrations they were treated as being of similar rank.[3][8]

Thiyyar dynasties such as the Mannanar existed in Kerala.[9] The Chekavar, a warrior section within the Thiyyar community, served the army of the Chera dynasty; there were also renowned Kalaripayattu experts among Chekavars.[10][11]

Martial traditions

Some Thiyyar served in army of local chieftains and local rulers such as of Kadathanad and Kurumbranad of Kerala, who were privileged in the pre-colonial period to have their own private armies.[21]

Chekavar

A subgroup of the Thiyyas considered themselves to be warriors and became known as the Chekavars. The Vadakkan Pattukal ballads describe Chekavars as forming the militia of local chieftains and kings but the title was also given to experts of Kalari Payattu.[22]

Poorakkali

Poorakkali is a folk dance prevalent among the Ezhavas of Malabar, usually performed in Bhagavathy temples as a ritual offering during the month of Meenam (March–April). Poorakkali requires specially trained and highly experienced dancers, trained in Kalaripayattu. Standing round a traditional lamp, the performers dance in eighteen different stages and rhythms, each phase called a niram.[27][page needed]

The following statement given below, mentioned in Ezhava has to be deleted from that in Wikipedia, which are wrong.

1)      " and as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas in the Malabar region “ (given in the 5th line about the description of Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a) It is a wrong statement. Ezhavas are not known as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) in Malabar region.

b) Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is a different community called Thiyya.

Spellings of Thiyya:

Thiyya is also spelled in English as Thiyya, Thiyyar, Tiyyas, Theeyas, Thiyyan, Thiyyas, Thiyyer, Theeyya, Theeyyar, Thiya, Tiya and Tiyya.

In Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Thiyya differently in English.

Thiyya community belongs to Hindu religion is found thickly populated in the north Malabar region of Kerala state and Mahe in Pondicherry state of India. Few are also found in some parts of Trichur and Palakkad districts of Kerala state.

North Malabar region consists of Kasargod, Kannur, Kozhikode, Wayanad and Malappuram districts of Kerala state and Mahe of Pondicherry state of India.

Thiyya comprise of about 70% population among Malayalam speaking Hindus in north Malabar region of Kerala state and about 80% of Malayalam speaking Hindus in Mahe in Pondicherry. From these places, Thiyya community has migrated to, rest of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Telungana, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Delhi and other states of India and all Arabian Gulf countries, like UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc and rest of the world.

Malabar region were under Madras province of India, under British rule, before Indian independence. A small place called Thangacheri in Kollam district was also under British rule, before independence of India.

Malabar region consists of Kasargod, Kannur, Kozhikode, Waynad, Malappuram, Trichur and Palakkad districts of Kerala state and Mahe in Pondicherry state, India.

The rest of Kerala state was under Travancore and Kochi kingdoms and were not under British rule before Indian independence.

Travancore and Kochi kingdoms consists of present Thiruvananthapuram, Kollom, Pathanamthitta, Alappuzha, Kottayam, Idukki and Ernakulum districts of Kerala state.

Thiyya community was not found in Travancore and Kochi Kingdoms, earlier. Now, after Indian Independence, person belongs to Thiyya community is also working and settled in Thiruvananthapuram, Kollom, Pathanamthitta, Alappuzha, Kottayam, Idukki and Ernakulum districts of Kerala state also, but are very rare.

India got Independence in 15th August 1947 from British. The Kerala state of India was formed in 1956.

Kerala state comprises of Malabar region of Madras state, Travancore and Kochi Kingdoms.

c) Ezhava community is a different community.

Ezhava is spelled in many ways such as Ezhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Ezhavan, Ezhuva,  Izhuva,   Ishuva, Izhuvan, Ishuvan, Ezhuvan, Izhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Illuva,   Illuvan,   Irava and Iruva.

In Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Ezhava differently in English.

d) There is no relation between Thiyya community (Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas) and Ezhava community.

e) Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes by Government of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Kerala state of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Pondicherry state of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Tamil Nadu states of India.

f) Thiyya community is listed at sl. no.185 of Mandal Commission report list of Kerala state and at sl. no. 222 of Mandal commission report of Pondicherry state in India.

g) Thiyya community is not having any sub caste or Thiyya is not a sub caste of any other community.

h) Difference between Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) and Ezhava communities:

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is a peculiar Hindu community, whose culture, Gods and Goddess, way of worship, rituals, social status, marriage customs, marriage divorce rituals of Thiyya, birth and death ceremonies, Kazhakam system of Thiyya (court), food habits, spoken language Malayalam slang is having Kannada words and Kannada slang etc are entirely different from any other Malayalam speaking, Hindu communities of India.

There were no Ezhava in north Malabar (British ruled region), earlier. Ezhava is from Travancore and Kochi kingdoms area.

Ezhava’s social status, marriage customs, food habits, spoken language Malayalam slang of Ezhava is having Tamil words and are mixed with a Tamil slang etc are entirely different from Thiyya community.

i) Specialty of Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community culture:

Thiyya worship their Gods and Goddess in the form of Theyyam.

Thiyya offer liquor, fish, mutton and chicken to their gods and goddesses during pooja (rituals).

Ezhava do not offer liquor, fish, mutton and chicken to their gods and goddesses during pooja (rituals) or worship.

Ezhava never worship gods and goddess in the form of Theyyem.

Ezhava never eat Fish, Mutton and Chicken on festivals.

Thiyya eat fish, mutton and chiken on festivals and it is a must.

Name of some gods and goddess and types of gods Thiyya worship are:

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community worship, Muthappan, TheeChamundi, Patichamumdi, Gulikan, PooKuttichathan, Chattakuttichathan or Shasthappan, Bhiravan, Uchitta, Paradevatha, Valiya Bhagavathi, Cheriya Bhagavathi, Ponmakan, Ponmakal, Pothi, Poomala Bhagavathi, Thamburatti, KarimKali, Vazhunnor, Karanavanmar, Gurikkanmar, Mannappan, Raman, Vayanattu kulavan, Bali, Sugreevan, Hanuman, Bappuran, Daivathar, Vettakoru makan, Angakkaran, Kandanar Kelan, Pottan, Kandarkarnan, Vasoorimala, Kathivanoor veeran and so many other Theyyems and its vellattam  in the form of Theyyams.

Theyyam is performed in their Kavu (temple) or in their house. These Theyyems are not having any idols. Their weapons (Sword, Bow and arrow) etc. are worshipped in Kavu.

Thiyya community also worship their Karanavanmar (great respected Thiyya elders), Gurukkanmar (Guru or teacher of Kalari), Vazhunnor (Thiyya king, named Mannanar), and other great Thiyya personalities in the form of their Theyyam.

J) Social status of Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya):

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) were found doing many kinds of jobs, such as King (Mannanar, was the last Thiyya king, till 1902 of Thiyya dynesty), soldiers, officers, ministers, land owners, farmers and cultivators, small scale industrial owners, beaten rice, jiggery manufactures and its workers, contractors, mooppan (team lead) , mason, building construction workers, eerayi (wood cutter and wood slicer), handloom cloth weavers and owners, beedi and cigar workers and owners, stone quarry owners and stone cutters and workers, liquor (Tody and Arack) manufactures and its workers, business men, teachers, lawyers, Magistrates, Poojaries (priest). Thiyyers were expert Ayurvedic vaidyars (doctors), Vishaharies (who treat for snake poison) and Manthravadi (black magic performer), Kalari payattu gurus (teacher), Circus company owners and its circus team etc.

Sri Churyayi Kanaran, was Deputy Collector of South Malabar, of British India from 1859 to 1869. He is from Kanoth family, a Thiyya from Thalassery, Kannur. He was also Mayor of Tellichery after his retirement. He was the only person got his last pay, in his service as his pension after retirement from British Government. He was so efficient administrator.

Mayor of French Mahe was also a Thiyya, during French rule.

French Army had a Regiment called Thiyya Regiment during those days.

k) Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) never asks or demand or give or take dowry in any form, during their marriage. No pleasing system of groom’s family by bride’s family by giving money or motor cycle or car or house etc or in any other form.

Ezhava demand, asks, take and give dowry during their marriage.

l) Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is not having any sub caste or Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is not a sub caste of any other community.

m) History of Ezhava:

Ezhavas were untouchables in south Kerala (Travancore and Kochi Kingdom), until 1925 ( Till, Temple entry strike called, Vaikom satyagraham or Skhetra praveshana samaram, during 1924-25, was finished and succeeded by Ezhava ).

But, Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) communities had their own temples in each rich Thiyya families for their worship, in north Kerala (Malabar region under British), from ancient times. Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) poojari’s known as Madayan, Komaram, Aayathar; Embran etc perform the puja rituals in these temples or Kavu from ancient times. These Thiyya poojaries (priest) must be a married man.

Moreover, Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is a Khshtriya.

So Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community feels very bad, when any one type Thiyya, Thiyya appears under Ezhava in Wikipedia. With this statement in Wikipedia, it gives a mental torture to Thiyya community. Thiyya feels that they have been insulted by clubbing under Ezhava in Wikipedia.

2) Where in the 2010s they (Ezhava) constituted about 23% of the population and were reported to be the largest Hindu community. (Given in the 2nd line about the description of Ezhava published in Wikipedia under Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is wrong.

b) This 23% includes Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya), Thandan, Chovan and Ezhava.

c) Ezhava alone there may be about 9% only in Kerala.

3) The Malabar Thiyyar group has claimed a higher ranking in the Hindu caste system than do the others, although from the perspective of the colonial and subsequent administrations they were treated as being of similar rank. (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

4) Thiyyar dynasties such as the Mannanar existed in Kerala.[9] The Chekavar, a warrior section within the Thiyyar community, served the army of the Chera dynasty; there were also renowned Kalaripayattu experts among Chekavars [10][11]. (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

5) Chekavar

A subgroup of the Thiyyas considered them selves to be warriors and became known as the Chekavars. The Vadakkan Pattukal ballads describe Chekavars as forming the militia of local chieftains and kings but the title was also given to experts of Kalari Payattu.[22] (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

6) Poorakkali

Poorakkali is a folk dance prevalent among the Ezhavas of Malabar, usually performed in Bhagavathy temples as a ritual offering during the month of Meenam (March–April). Poorakkali requires specially trained and highly experienced dancers, trained in Kalaripayattu. Standing round a traditional lamp, the performers dance in eighteen different stages and rhythms, each phase called a niram.[27][page needed] (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

b) Poorakkali is a folk dance of Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya).

B) I may please be permitted to write about Thiyya community, in a separate heading under Thiyya separately  and to publish in Wikipedia.

I belong to Thiyya community from Kannur, Kerala, India and aged 68 years, retired from ONGC Ltd. as Superintending Engineer.

Reason for creation:

a) If one type Thiyya in Wikipedia, it specify about Ezhava and giving wrong statement about Thiyya community.

b) So Thiyya feels very bad, when any one type Thiyya, Thiyya appears under Ezhava in Wikipedia and we are not allowed to edit it by Wikipedia.

c) With this statement in Wikipedia, it gives a mental torture to Thiyya community. Thiyya feels that they have been insulted by clubbing under Ezhava in Wikipedia.

d) There is no relation between Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) and Ezhava in any manner.

C) If any one type Thiyya in Wikipedia, only Thiyya should come on the screen and describe only about Thiyya community, in future. It is a request to Wikipedia.

Note:

Christians in Italy eat beef, if one go to east of Italy, people in Turkey also eat beef, so, Turkish are also known as Christians. Is this statement correct?

No. Turkish are Muslims and Italians are Christians. Both are 2 different communities.

So, kindly do the needful.

Regards. Mangool Kanakath Surendran

== Wrong statements published under Ezhava in Wikipedia should be deleted. It has become a forceful community conversion of Thiyya community into Ezhava community by Wikipedia, which is a criminal offense. ==

Dear Wikipedia management,

In my view, Wikipedia should not give wrong statements.

If any one write the the below given statement, will any one accept it?

Christians in Italy eat beef, if one go to east of Italy, people in Turkey also eat beef, so, Turkish are also known as Christans.

No. Turkish are not Christians. Turkish are Muslims and Italians are Christians. Both are 2 different communities.

Similar way, if Wikipedia publish that, Ezhava in north Malabar is known as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is a wrong statement, like the statement that Turkish are Christians.

No one will accept it.

'''Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is a separate community of India and Ezhava is an another separate community of India. Both belongs to Hindu religion.'''

Thiyya community is listed separately and Ezhava community is listed separately, under Other backward classes by Government of India. The list is prepared state wise and Union Territory wise.

Wikipedia may check the Other backward classes (OBC) list from the given references. Or Wikipedia may contact Government of India from the following address for further clarification, that Thiyya is a separate community of Hindu in India.

The Chairmam,

National Commission for Backward Classes,

Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment,

Government of India,

Trikoot 1, Bhikaji Cama Place, East Block,

Ramakrishnapuram, New Delhi 110066. India.

1) List of other backward classes, Ministry of social justice and empowerment, Government of India.

2)[https://services.india.gov.in>detail%20search%20caste%20and%20community%20in%20the%20central%20list%20of%20OBC.

3)[https://services.india.gov.in>detail%20search%20caste%20and%20community%20in%20the%20central%20list%20of%20OBC.%5D

4)https://services.india.gov.in>detail search caste and community in the central list of OBC.] ]

5)www.ncbc.nic.in>user_panel>central list of OBC-National commission for backward classes.

'''Thiyya community is listed separately under Other Backward classes by Government of India:

Thiyya community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Kerala state.

Thiyya community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Pondicherry state.

Thiyya community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Tamil Nadu state.

Thiyya community is listed at sl. no.185 of Mandal Commission report of OBC list of Kerala state. Thiyya community is listed separately at sl. no. 222 of Mandal commission report of Pondicherry state.

Vide No.12011/68/93.BCC(C)The Government of India, New Delhi, dated September 1993 & Government of India, OM no. 36012/22/93, dated 8th September 1993, by Ministry of personal, Public Grievance & Pensions.''' Thiyya is also spelled in English as Thiyya, Thiyyar, Tiyyas, Theeyas, Thiyyan, Thiyyas, Thiyyer, Theeyya, Theeyyar, Thiya, Tiya and Tiyya.

Because, in Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Thiyya differently in English.

Thiyya community is not having any sub caste or Thiyya is not a sub caste of any other community.

'''Ezhava community is listed separately under Other Backward classes by Government of India:

Ezhava community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Kerala state.

Ezhava community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Pondicherry state.

Ezhava community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Tamil Nadu state.

Ezhava community is listed at sl. no.44 of Mandal Commission report list of Kerala state. Ezhava community is listed at sl. no. 49 of Mandal commission report of Pondicherry state. Vide No.12011/68/93.BCC(C)The Government of India, New Delhi dated September 1993 & Government of India, OM no. 36012/22/93, dated 8th September 1993, by Ministry of personal, Public Grievance & Pensions.''' Ezhava is spelled in many ways such as Ezhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Ezhavan, Ezhuva,  Izhuva,   Ishuva, Izhuvan, Ishuvan, Ezhuvan, Izhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Illuva,   Illuvan,   Irava and Iruva.

Because in Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Ezhava differently in English.

Ezhava community is not having any sub caste or Ezhava is not a sub caste of any other community.

Then, how Wikipedia is interpreting Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community wrongly as Ezhava community?

'''It has become a forceful community conversion by Wikipedia, converting Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community people into Ezhava community, which is a against Indian constitution. It is a criminal case.'''

So, kindly correct or edit the wrong statements published in Ezhava about Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya community) and other statements pertains to Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya community), Like Thiyya Dynasty, King Mannanar, Chekavar, Poorakkali and the cumulative population given against Ezhava etc. in Wikipedia.

Regards Mangool Kanakath Surendran.

Dear Wikipedia management,

In my view, Wikipedia should not give wrong statements.

'''Wikipedia has published that, Ezhava in north Malabar is known as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya community). It is a wrong statement.'''

Thiyya community will not accept it.

'''Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is a separate community of India and Ezhava is an another community of India. Both belongs to Hindu religion.'''

Thiyya community is listed separately and Ezhava community is listed separately, under Other backward classes by Government of India. The list is prepared state wise and Union Territory wise.

Wikipedia may check the Other backward classes (OBC) list from the given references. Or Wikipedia may contact Government of India from the following address.

The Chairman,

National Commission for Backward Classes,

Ministry of Social Justice & Empowerment,

Government of India,

Trikoot 1, Bhikaji Cama Place, East Block,

Ramakrishnapuram, New Delhi 110066. India.

1) List of other backward classes, Ministry of social justice and empowerment, Government of India.

2)[https://services.india.gov.in>detail%20search%20caste%20and%20community%20in%20the%20central%20list%20of%20OBC.

3)[https://services.india.gov.in>detail%20search%20caste%20and%20community%20in%20the%20central%20list%20of%20OBC.%5D

4)

5)

'''Thiyya community is listed separately under Other Backward classes by Government of India:

Thiyya community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Kerala state.

Thiyya community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Pondicherry state.

Thiyya community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Tamil Nadu state.

Thiyya community is listed at sl. no.185 of Mandal Commission report list of Kerala state and at sl. no. 222 of Mandal commission report of Pondicherry state.

Vide No.12011/68/93.BCC(C)The Government of India, New Delhi, dated September 1993 & Government of India, OM no. 36012/22/93, dated 8th September 1993, by Ministry of personal, Public Grievance & Pensions.''' Thiyya is also spelled in English as Thiyya, Thiyyar, Tiyyas, Theeyas, Thiyyan, Thiyyas, Thiyyer, Theeyya, Theeyyar, Thiya, Tiya and Tiyya.

Because, in Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Thiyya differently in English.

Thiyya community is not having any sub caste or Thiyya is not a sub caste of any other community.

'''Ezhava community is listed separately under Other Backward classes by Government of India:

Ezhava community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Kerala state.

Ezhava community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Pondicherry state.

Ezhava community is listed separately under Other Backward classes in Tamil Nadu state.

Ezhava community is listed at sl. no.44 of Mandal Commission report list of Kerala state and at sl. no. 49 of Mandal commission report of Pondicherry state. Vide No.12011/68/93.BCC(C)The Government of India, New Delhi dated September 1993 & Government of India, OM no. 36012/22/93, dated 8th September 1993, by Ministry of personal, Public Grievance & Pensions.''' Ezhava is spelled in many ways such as Ezhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Ezhavan, Ezhuva,  Izhuva,   Ishuva, Izhuvan, Ishuvan, Ezhuvan, Izhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Illuva,   Illuvan,   Irava and Iruva.

Because in Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Ezhava differently in English.

Ezhava community is not having any sub caste or Ezhava is not a sub caste of any other community.

Then, how Wikipedia is interpreting Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community wrongly as Ezhava community?

'''It has become a forceful community conversion by Wikipedia, converting Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community people into Ezhava community, which is a against Indian constitution. It is a criminal case.'''

So, kindly correct or edit the wrong statements published in Ezhava about Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya community) and other statements pertains to Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya community), Like Thiyya Dynasty, King Mannanar, Chekavar, Poorakkali and the cumulative population given against Ezhava etc. in Wikipedia.

Regards Mangool Kanakath Surendran.

Dear Wikipedia Management,

'''In Wikipedia, there are few wrong statements, published about Ezhava, under the heading Ezhava. Wikipedia is not allowing to correct it by editing it.'''

A)	Therefore, I request Wikipedia management to delete the wrong statements, published under Ezhava.

In Wikipedia, you can see that Wikipedia has published as given below, under the heading EzhaIn Wikiva:

The Ezhavas are a community with origins in the region of India presently known as Kerala, where in the 2010s they constituted about 23% of the population and were reported to be the largest Hindu community.[1][2] They are also known as Ilhava, Irava, Izhava and Erava in the south of the region; as Chovas, Chokons and Chogons in Central Travancore; and as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas in the Malabar region.[3][4][5] Some are also known as Thandan, which has caused administrative difficulties due to the presence of a distinct caste of Thandan in the same region.[6][7] The Malabar Thiyyar group have claimed a higher ranking in the Hindu caste system than do the others, although from the perspective of the colonial and subsequent administrations they were treated as being of similar rank.[3][8]

Thiyyar dynasties such as the Mannanar existed in Kerala.[9] The Chekavar, a warrior section within the Thiyyar community, served the army of the Chera dynasty; there were also renowned Kalaripayattu experts among Chekavars.[10][11]

Martial traditions

Some Thiyyar served in army of local chieftains and local rulers such as of Kadathanad and Kurumbranad of Kerala, who were privileged in the pre-colonial period to have their own private armies.[21]

Chekavar

A subgroup of the Thiyyas considered themselves to be warriors and became known as the Chekavars. The Vadakkan Pattukal ballads describe Chekavars as forming the militia of local chieftains and kings but the title was also given to experts of Kalari Payattu.[22]

Poorakkali

Poorakkali is a folk dance prevalent among the Ezhavas of Malabar, usually performed in Bhagavathy temples as a ritual offering during the month of Meenam (March–April). Poorakkali requires specially trained and highly experienced dancers, trained in Kalaripayattu. Standing round a traditional lamp, the performers dance in eighteen different stages and rhythms, each phase called a niram.[27][page needed]

The following statement given below, mentioned in Ezhava has to be deleted from that in Wikipedia, which are wrong.

1)      " and as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas in the Malabar region “ (given in the 5th line about the description of Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a)It is a wrong statement. Ezhavas are not known as Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) in Malabar region.

b)Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is a different community called Thiyya.

Spellings of Thiyya:

Thiyya is also spelled in English as Thiyya, Thiyyar, Tiyyas, Theeyas, Thiyyan, Thiyyas, Thiyyer, Theeyya, Theeyyar, Thiya, Tiya and Tiyya.

In Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Thiyya differently in English.

Thiyya community belongs to Hindu religion is found thickly populated in the north Malabar region of Kerala state and Mahe in Pondicherry state of India. Few are also found in some parts of Trichur and Palakkad districts of Kerala state.

North Malabar region consists of Kasargod, Kannur, Kozhikode, Wayanad and Malappuram districts of Kerala state and Mahe of Pondicherry state of India.

Thiyya comprise of about 70% population among Malayalam speaking Hindus in north Malabar region of Kerala state and about 80% of Malayalam speaking Hindus in Mahe in Pondicherry.

From these places, Thiyya community has migrated to, rest of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Telungana, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Delhi and other states of India and all Arabian Gulf countries, like UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc and rest of the world.

Malabar region were under Madras province of India, under British rule, before Indian independence. A small place called Thangacheri in Kollam district was also under British rule, before independence of India.

Malabar region consists of Kasargod, Kannur, Kozhikode, Waynad, Malappuram, Trichur and Palakkad districts of Kerala state and Mahe in Pondicherry state, India.

The rest of Kerala state was under Travancore and Kochi kingdoms and were not under British rule before Indian independence.

Travancore and Kochi kingdoms consists of present Thiruvananthapuram, Kollom, Pathanamthitta, Alappuzha, Kottayam, Idukki and Ernakulum districts of Kerala state.

Thiyya community was not found in Travancore and Kochi Kingdoms, earlier. Now, after Indian Independence, person belongs to Thiyya community is also working and settled in Thiruvananthapuram, Kollom, Pathanamthitta, Alappuzha, Kottayam, Idukki and Ernakulum districts of Kerala state also, but are very rare.

India got Independence in 15th August 1947 from British. The Kerala state of India was formed in 1956.

Kerala state comprises of Malabar region of Madras state, Travancore and Kochi Kingdoms.

c) Ezhava community is a different community.

Ezhava is spelled in many ways such as Ezhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Ezhavan, Ezhuva,  Izhuva,   Ishuva, Izhuvan, Ishuvan, Ezhuvan, Izhava, Izhavan, Ishavan, Illuva,   Illuvan,   Irava and Iruva.

In Malayalam language, there are 52 alphabets, so different people spelled Ezhava differently in English.

d) There is no relation between Thiyya community (Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas) and Ezhava community.

e) Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes by Government of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Kerala state of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Pondicherry state of India.

Thiyya community is listed under Other Backward classes in Tamil Nadu states of India.

f) Thiyya community is listed at sl. no.185 of Mandal Commission report list of Kerala state and at sl. no. 222 of Mandal commission report of Pondicherry state in India.

g) Thiyya community is not having any sub caste or Thiyya is not a sub caste of any other community.

h) Difference between Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) and Ezhava communities:

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is a peculiar Hindu community, whose culture, Gods and Goddess, way of worship, rituals, social status, marriage customs, marriage divorce rituals of Thiyya, birth and death ceremonies, Kazhakam system of Thiyya (court), food habits, spoken language Malayalam slang is having Kannada words and Kannada slang etc are entirely different from any other Malayalam speaking, Hindu communities of India.

There were no Ezhava in north Malabar (British ruled region), earlier. Ezhava is from Travancore and Kochi kingdoms area.

Ezhava’s social status, marriage customs, food habits, spoken language Malayalam slang of Ezhava is having Tamil words and are mixed with a Tamil slang etc are entirely different from Thiyya community.

i) Specialty of Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community culture:

Thiyya worship their Gods and Goddess in the form of Theyyam.

Thiyya offer liquor, fish, mutton and chicken to their gods and goddesses during pooja (rituals).

Ezhava do not offer liquor, fish, mutton and chicken to their gods and goddesses during pooja (rituals) or worship.

Ezhava never worship gods and goddess in the form of Theyyem.

Ezhava never eat Fish, Mutton and Chicken on festivals.

Thiyya eat fish, mutton and chiken on festivals and it is a must.

Name of some gods and goddess and types of gods Thiyya worship are:

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community worship, Muthappan, TheeChamundi, Patichamumdi, Gulikan, PooKuttichathan, Chattakuttichathan or Shasthappan, Bhiravan, Uchitta, Paradevatha, Valiya Bhagavathi, Cheriya Bhagavathi, Ponmakan, Ponmakal, Pothi, Poomala Bhagavathi, Thamburatti, KarimKali, Vazhunnor, Karanavanmar, Gurikkanmar, Mannappan, Raman, Vayanattu kulavan, Bali, Sugreevan, Hanuman, Bappuran, Daivathar, Vettakoru makan, Angakkaran, Kandanar Kelan, Pottan, Kandarkarnan, Vasoorimala, Kathivanoor veeran and so many other Theyyems and its vellattam  in the form of Theyyams.

Theyyam is performed in their Kavu (temple) or in their house. These Theyyems are not having any idols. Their weapons (Sword, Bow and arrow) etc. are worshipped in Kavu.

Thiyya community also worship their Karanavanmar (great respected Thiyya elders), Gurukkanmar (Guru or teacher of Kalari), Vazhunnor (Thiyya king, named Mannanar), and other great Thiyya personalities in the form of their Theyyam.

J) Social status of Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya):

Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) were found doing many kinds of jobs, such as King (Mannanar, was the last Thiyya king, till 1902 of Thiyya dynesty), soldiers, officers, ministers, land owners, farmers and cultivators, small scale industrial owners, beaten rice, jiggery manufactures and its workers, contractors, mooppan (team lead) , mason, building construction workers, eerayi (wood cutter and wood slicer), handloom cloth weavers and owners, beedi and cigar workers and owners, stone quarry owners and stone cutters and workers, liquor (Tody and Arack) manufactures and its workers, business men, teachers, lawyers, Magistrates, Poojaries (priest). Thiyyers were expert Ayurvedic vaidyars (doctors), Vishaharies (who treat for snake poison) and Manthravadi (black magic performer), Kalari payattu gurus (teacher), Circus company owners and its circus team etc.

Sri Churyayi Kanaran, was Deputy Collector of South Malabar, of British India from 1859 to 1869. He is from Kanoth family, a Thiyya from Thalassery, Kannur. He was also Mayor of Tellichery after his retirement. He was the only person got his last pay, in his service as his pension after retirement from British Government. He was so efficient administrator.

Mayor of French Mahe was also a Thiyya, during French rule.

French Army had a Regiment called Thiyya Regiment during those days.

k) Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) never asks or demand or give or take dowry in any form, during their marriage. No pleasing system of groom’s family by bride’s family by giving money or motor cycle or car or house etc or in any other form.

Ezhava demand, asks, take and give dowry during their marriage.

l) Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is not having any sub caste or Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) is not a sub caste of any other community.

m) History of Ezhava:

Ezhavas were untouchables in south Kerala (Travancore and Kochi Kingdom), until 1925 ( Till, Temple entry strike called, Vaikom satyagraham or Skhetra praveshana samaram, during 1924-25, was finished and succeeded by Ezhava ).

But, Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) communities had their own temples in each rich Thiyya families for their worship, in north Kerala (Malabar region under British), from ancient times. Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) poojari’s known as Madayan, Komaram, Aayathar; Embran etc perform the puja rituals in these temples or Kavu from ancient times. These Thiyya poojaries (priest) must be a marrid man.

Moreover, Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community is a Khshtriya.

So Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) community feels very bad, when any one type Thiyya, Thiyya appears under Ezhava in Wikipedia. With this statement in Wikipedia, it gives a mental torture toThiyya community. Thiyya feels that they have been insulted by clubbing under Ezhava in Wikipedia.

2) Where in the 2010s they (Ezhava) constituted about 23% of the population and were reported to be the largest Hindu community. (Given in the 2nd line about the description of Ezhava published in Wikipedia under Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is wrong.

b) This 23% includes Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya), Thandan, Chovan and Ezhava.

c) Ezhava alone there may be about 9% only in Kerala.

3) The Malabar Thiyyar group has claimed a higher ranking in the Hindu caste system than do the others, although from the perspective of the colonial and subsequent administrations they were treated as being of similar rank. (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

4) Thiyyar dynasties such as the Mannanar existed in Kerala.[9] The Chekavar, a warrior section within the Thiyyar community, served the army of the Chera dynasty; there were also renowned Kalaripayattu experts among Chekavars [10][11]. (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava)

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

5) Chekavar'

A subgroup of the Thiyyas considered them selves to be warriors and became known as the Chekavars. The Vadakkan Pattukal ballads describe Chekavars as forming the militia of local chieftains and kings but the title was also given to experts of Kalari Payattu.[22] (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

6) Poorakkali

'''Poorakkali is a folk dance prevalent among the Ezhavas of Malabar, usually performed in Bhagavathy temples as a ritual offering during the month of Meenam (March–April). Poorakkali requires specially trained and highly experienced dancers, trained in Kalaripayattu. Standing round a traditional lamp, the performers dance in eighteen different stages and rhythms, each phase called a niram.[27][page needed] (Statement published in Wikipedia under Ezhava).'''

Reason for deletion:

a) This statement is irrelevant to Ezhava community.

b) Poorakkali is a folk dance of c (Thiyya).

B) I may please be permitted to write about Thiyya community, in a separate heading under Thiyya separately  and to publish in Wikipedia.

I belong to Thiyya community from Kannur, Kerala, India and aged 68 years, retired from ONGC Ltd. as Superintending Engineer.

Reason for creation:

a) If one type Thiyya in Wikipedia, it specify about Ezhava and giving wrong statement about Thiyya community.

b) So Thiyya feels very bad, when any one type Thiyya, Thiyya appears under Ezhava in Wikipedia and we are not allowed to edit it by Wikipedia.

c) With this statement in Wikipedia, it gives a mental torture to Thiyya community. Thiyya feels that they have been insulted by clubbing under Ezhava in Wikipedia.

d) There is no relation between Thiyyar, Tiyyas and Theeyas (Thiyya) and Ezhava in any manner.

C) If any one type Thiyya in Wikipedia, only Thiyya should come on the screan and describe only about Thiyya community, in future. It is a request to Wikipedia.

So, kindly edit the Ezhava in Wikipedia, such that to remove the wrong statements.

Regards.

Mangool Kanakath Surendran