User talk:Mani1

See also: User talk:Mani1/archive1

Ethnic politics of Khuzestan
Please discuss with other editors on the talk page before deleting large amounts of content from this article. Thank you. --88.110.65.227 16:48, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh
Hi You were the first non-IP editor of the above article so here I am at your talk page... the article itself does not have a talk page. I got to the article from hitting "random article". However the article does not actually tell me what Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh is, just that it is about geneology. ie, is it a song, poem, novella, essay or something else entirely?

As you were a very early editor of the article I was hoping you are aware of what form the Silsilat al-nasab-e Safaviyyeh takes and could clarify the article for those of us who don't even know "it's a book" (or whatever it happens to be).

Although it seems you have a large number of contributions and may not get back to what might be a trivial cultural item (I am not sure if it is a geneology of a significant or a trivial family).

BTW: you may need to archive your talk page... Garrie 05:35, 9 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi.

It is a book about hagiography and genealogy of one of the most important dynasties (Safavids) in the Persian history.

I added the word book to the article.

Thanks for your attention, take care, --Mani1 09:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Malformed AfD
Mani, I removed the AfD notice from the Anti-Arabism page, because it was not technically correct and you didn't do the other necessary steps in nominating. Also, based on your edit summary people would probably accuse you of a WP:POINT violation. But feel free to re-nominate (ask me if you need help how to do it) - I said I'd support deletion of parallel articles, and so I will, although this one strikes me as slightly better than the other. Lukas (T. 22:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi.

It seems you are more familiar with the technically correct deletion processes. As you have gone through this trouble for trying to delete the informative article Anti-Persianism by Arabs, you are naturally expected to do the same for all such articles, otherwise you have been acting biased and selective. --Mani1 22:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well no, I'm under no obligation. My time is just as limited as yours, and right now it's late at night here. Besides, my secret employers pay me only for vandalising Pro-Iranian articles, obviously, as Sina Kardar will be able to confirm. If you want to nominate and can't be bothered to ask me nicely, well, there are instructions at WP:AFD. But do read WP:POINT too. Lukas (T. 22:34, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I will nimonate that article in a technically correct way, the first moment I'll have more time for it. You should do the same for all such articles or pull back your nomination of the Anti-Persianism article if you wish to be unbiased and non-selective. You are of course not obliged to be unbised but we are also free to resist biased attacks on our informative and well-researched articles.

--Mani1 22:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

The deletion tag
Salaam Mani jaan. You shouldn't remove the deletion tag until the voting is over and the AFD is officially closed by an administrator. Also, we had a long discussion on the talk page and we picked the title "Anti-Persian sentiments" which is more general and NPOV. --ManiF 10:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. But the "Anti-Persian sentiments" is a totally vague title, sentiments by who? where? when?

Take care. --Mani1 10:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the who, where, and when is already discussed in the article. Chakerim. --ManiF 11:21, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Please revert LukasPietschs racist comments from my talk. he is harassing me and I have a right to remove such attacks. Khorshid 12:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Iranian peoples
Salam. Yeh negayeh kon beh in harfayi User:Tombseye enja, Talk:Iranian peoples. Mamnoon. Kouroush 14:31, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

eyval interwiki
mibinam ke 3soot magale haro interwiki mizani :)--Meisam.fa 09:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Ma ba iki-saniyeh bozorg shodim! --Mani1 09:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

"Persian"?
Mani, you recently changed "Farsi" to "Persian", stating it is the correct term in English. Is "Farsi" politically incorrect? I hear it much more frequently than "Persian" in writing. You would probably know more about it than I do, but I was just curious about where you got that information.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 17:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi.
 * "Farsi" is the Persian word for Persian. Writing "I speak Farsi" is as wrong as writing "I speak Deutsch".

I attract your attention to the announcement of The Academy of the Persian Language and Literature (Farhangestan) on this matter:


 * "Persian" has been used in a variety of publications including cultural, scientific and diplomatic documents for centuries and, therefore, it carries a very significant historical and cultural meaning. Hence, changing "Persian" to "Farsi" would negate this established important precedent.
 * Changing the usage from "Persian" to "Farsi" may give the impression that Farsi is a new language, although this may well be the intention of some users of Farsi.
 * Changing the usage may also give the impression that Farsi is a dialect used in some parts of Iran rather than the predominant (and official) language of the country.
 * The word "Farsi" has never been used in any research paper or university document in any Western language, and the proposal to begin using it would create doubt and ambiguity about the name of the official language of Iran.
 * Comment I agree with you in general that Persian is the correct term for the language, but I disagree that Farsi is not used in English. You may not consider these to be research papers or university documents, but never is a tough word to use correctly. Here are just a few recent examples: Bejnar 20:26, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hard numbers.(Currents). Columbia Journalism Review 43.6 (March-April 2005): p15 “75,000: Estimated number of blogs written in Farsi.”
 * Women of the Afghan War.(Book Review). Shahrzad Mojab. Canadian Woman Studies 22.2 (Fall 2002): p160, “The English literature on Afghan women is growing, though it still lags behind the coverage of Afghan women's suffering, struggle, and resistance in Farsi (Persian), Dari or other regional languages.”
 * The early phonological development of a Farsi-English bilingual child. Mohammad Hossein Keshavarz and David Ingram. International Journal of Bilingualism 6.3 (Sept 2002): p255, “Analyses of data from a longitudinal study of a Farsi-English bilingual infant, Arsham, supported the hypothesis that the child had acquired two separate phonologies with mutual influence; that is, he made occasional use of phonological features of Farsi in English words and vice-versa.”
 * Afghan Buzkashi: Power Games and Gamesmen. (Book Reviews). Ali A. Jalali. Parameters 31.4 (Winter 2001): p156, “Reviewed by Ali A. Jalali, former Afghan colonel and author of several books on Afghan military history, including The Other Side of the Mountain, coauthored with Lester Grau. Mr. Jalali is Chief of the Farsi (Persian) Service at the Voice of America, Washington, D.C.”

See also:


 * Iran Cultural Heritage News Agency: "Persian is correct"
 * "Farsi", Recently Appeared Language! - (CAIS)
 * Persian or Farsi?
 * Ehsan Yarshater on this issue

Take care. --Mani1 18:54, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


 * OK, Thank you for clarifying.......I thought the term "Persian" went out with the name "Persia." Thanks for clarifying.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 13:53, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi Mani. Someone wrote: 'The word "Farsi" has never been used in any research paper or university document in any Western language.' I must disagree. Since so many people speak about 'Farsi' when they mean 'Persian', I thought it would be wisest to compromise and have both 'Persian' and 'Farsi' mentioned in the text, just to honour different opinons. Heroica Sophia

I raised your most recent farsi --> persian campaign on WP:AN/I.

You made this effort even for quoted material. This is wrong.

You aren't using edit summaries. This is wrong.

The policy on verifiability says, in its very first sentence, that the goal is "verifiability, not truth." IMO, if the source we are referencing uses "Farsi" then we should use "Farsi". Similarly, if the source we are referencing uses "Persian" we should use "Persian". Geo Swan (talk) 14:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Your message
Anjam shod :) --Zereshk 04:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

آقا دست شما درد نکند. خیلی حال دادی. هر موقع هر کاری بود که ما می توانستیم انجام بدهیم در خدمت هستیم.

قربان شما. --Mani1 08:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Sheitoona!
Didam chi kar kardin, afarin! --( Aytakin ) | Talk 00:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Mani1, you re-creation of the article Misconceptions about Iran without the agreement of the admin in charge of the AfD is "not" a sign of valuing the policies. My personal opinion is that it was much better to discuss the matter with the admin in charge as I did. With all respect, I've asked the article to be removed till the User:JDoorjam comes back (he is on a short break) so that we may chat with him on this matter. Please feel free to leave a bitter message on my talk page if you would like. Regards, --Aminz 09:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Aminz, you're right. Discussing the matter beforhand is better. Thanks for the message. --Mani1 09:59, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Dear Mani1, Thank you so much for your kindness. --Aminz 10:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Fārsi
Fārsi is a transliteration of فارسی that is why it was in parentheses after the word Persian. It was not out of ignorance, it was to help those who know Persian by the sound of its Arabic name. Bejnar 20:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC) I have made this clearer in the Iran article. Bejnar 20:36, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi.

We can not just mess with the official names of the languages of the countries to help people who know little to recognise their wrong spellings of the names. --Mani1 07:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC) Fārsi is not a wrong spelling. It is a widely used term for Persian in Persia and elsewhere. Also you said that parallel names for the official language were not used for other Wikipedia country articles. Have you looked at India? What do you have against the use of the word Fārsi in the appropriate context of a transliteration of the official name for the country's language? Bejnar 14:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi. Look for the answers under the title "Persian"? up here in this user talk page. --Mani1 12:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

link to Persian
Hello, when you want to link to the article about something Persian, please do not link to Persian, as that is a disambiguation page (which nothing should be linked to). Instead link to the one of the options found on that page such as Persian people, Persian language, or Iran, by writing out Persian or Persian. Regards, Jeff3000 06:17, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Email
Please add your email in "my preferences". Khorshid 21:03, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Ahvaz-karun.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:Ahvaz-karun.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created that provides substantially the same information. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:


 * 1) Go to the image description page and edit it to add , without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template.
 * 2) On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject, requesting that the copyright holder release this (or a similar) image under a free license, or by taking a picture of it yourself.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on [ this link]. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. MECU ≈ talk 01:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Religious minorities in Iran
Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Khoikhoi 00:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Two Articles in need of your attention
There are two entries at Wikipedia, which have falsely created -- they are Turco-Persian and Turko-Persian Tradition. Both entries are factitious. I have requested the entries to be deleted. My reasons are:
 * The term Turko-Persian Tradition (or Turco-Persian) does not exists academically and it is a factitious entry! Check the Encyclopaedia Iranica to confirm -- The correct name for that culture is the Persianate culture not the "Turko-Persian". Turkophones (mostly of mixed race and Persianized in culture) only spoke in Turkic dialects and were in the military. That is not enough participation in creating and forming the culture to deserve the name "Turko-Persian Tradition" – This is misinformation. All the elements in that area, which have to do with tradition and culture, were drawn from the Iranian culture (Persian, Kurdish, Azari, Baluchi, Tajik, Luri, Gilaki, Talishi, Mazandarani, etc.), and the Islamic faith, not much Turkic elements (like shamanism, yurts etc.) were incorporated in. That is what makes the name "Turko-Persian" an imaginary one and therefore the entry should be deleted.

Any contributions would greatly appreciated. Bā Sepās Surena 02:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Hank the Cowdog poplular in Iran?
Greetings. I am curious about the statement you added to the above article and the article on John R. Erickson, as my attempts to find further information have yielded nothing. I have now added a "citation needed" tag; do you have more details on this? Xerophyllum tenax 02:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Kiarostami
Hi Mani! I am going to nominate Kiarostami for A-class soon. It is now under peer review. It would be nice if you could take a look at it. Ba sepaas. Sangak 14:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

SAFZA
Salam,

Please check out a new article I've started on SAFZA. I would like to expand it somewhat, so that it can be put for a DYK. However, I have difficulty reading persian articles dealing with the subject. Any help would be appreciated. --Soman 14:18, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. The next time you vandalize the 300 (film) page, your IP address will be blocked.Arcayne 14:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not vandalizing anything. I just rearrange the subtitles of one article and add some more information. If you are not agreed with my information you cannot just label me a "vandal". Take back your warning.--Mani1 14:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree here, Arcayne should read Vandalism again. The edits by Mani doesn't qualify under any of the criteria given there. --Soman 14:42, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * I also did nothing to the PageName as Arcayne claims. He must have mistaken me with some other user.--Mani1 14:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm, then I guess you are denying this edit, this edit, and this edit. these are all examples of POV-push, and, as they reverted solid edits and directly undermined the neutrality of the article, you sacrificed the Asssumption of Good Faith. All three edits were vandalism.Arcayne 15:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Vandalism quite clearly states that POV-pushing is not the same as Vandalism. Whether one thinks '300' is hate-propaganda or not is a matter of difference of opinion, not vandalism. BTW, only admins are allowed to use the {protect} tag. --Soman 15:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Hmm, You guessed wrong. I was referring to those edits when I said I rearrenged and added information. You claim examples you brought above are "vandalism". Bring me the paragraph in Wikipedia law which proves this edit is a vandalism.--Mani1 15:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I would like to no what the punishment is for misusing and abusing the tags as Arcayne has done here.--Mani1 15:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Also, I assume Arcayne was attempting to point out your vandalism to 300 (film). You should have receieved a first warning. You received a previous warning from Arcayne on the 10th. Consider this one your second third. You have been duly warned several times for disrupting the same article multiple times. María: ( habla ~  cosas ) 14:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Please read the messages in the previous undertitle here.--Mani1 15:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Changing the Zack Snyder page to refer to him as a "hate-producer" and a "hateful Westerner" who has "insulted Persian civilization, one of the greatest civilizations on earth" is absolutely vandalism. You did similar edits to the 300 article.  There is no subjectivity; your edits are obviously disruptive, and the vandalism warnings are justified.  Please be sure to keep your agenda to yourself.  María: ( habla  ~  cosas ) 15:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * This is your opinion and what I added to the article is my opinion. Actually what I wrote is the opinion of millions of people about him. I agree that information about his hateful and racist acts should be added to that article in a more encyclopaedic fashion. When the threat of your labelings is passed I'll add an encyclopaedic documented piece to that article.--Mani1 15:41, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * No, it isn't merely my opinion that what you added was vandalism. As for "encyclopaedic documents," I doubt you will be able to find a reliable source to state that Snyder is a "hateful Westerner."  I am not threatening you; I am warning you.  If you continue to vandalize, you will be reported, and probably not by just me.  I suggest you step off.  María: ( habla  ~  cosas ) 15:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The reliable source is the hate movie he has made. I told you what I'm going to do and it is not against the law to write documented pieces in Wikipedia. So, the rest of your explanations is unnecessary.--Mani1 16:03, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You obviously are not aware with WP guidelines. Please do some research before attempting to pass your biased opinions off as credible material.  That's all.  María: ( habla  ~  cosas ) 16:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * What do you know about Zack Snyder and biased opinions!--Mani1 16:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:your note
Khahesh mikonam! kamtar kasi be andazeie shoma dar wikipedia baraie iran zahmat keshideh. rastee Abbas Kiarostami ham FA shod. heif ke hanooz kheili kam FA ie irani dareem. Take care! Sangak Talk 16:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Fe'lan bishtare vaghtam dar Wikipediaye Farsi migzareh. Mamnun az zahmathaye shoma dar inja va sepaas az payametun.

Shaadkaam baashid.--Mani1 16:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Zheng He Edit
I reverted your edit to Zheng He because all the sources cited indicate he was from Yunnan Province. If you have a source that indicates otherwise, please cite it in your modification and put the page up for dispute.

Thanks --KNHaw (talk) 00:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Peer review/Shahbag/archive2
I have just put the article to peer review. Would you care to take a look? Aditya Kabir 20:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:AvicennaPersian.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:AvicennaPersian.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the GFDL-self-no-disclaimers tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media meets the criteria at Fair use, use a tag such as or one of the other tags listed at Image copyright tags. See Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following [ this link]. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 12:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. 88.134.140.64 12:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Dorood
من همان b.b.y.r هستم از تالار گفتمان. لطفا یک ای-میل به من بزنید: alidoostzadeh@yahoo.com

Shahinaz (crater) and Fairouz (crater)
I noticed that you have changed the meaning of these craters from a "Turkish name/Arabic name" to a "Persian name". The original definition is given in the lunar nomenclature, per the Gazeteer of Planetary Nomenclature which is the international standard that we have been using for all the lunar craters. You may wish to contact the owner of that web-site to see if the change is appropriate. For the moment, however, I'd like to stick with the standard. Thank you. &mdash; RJH (talk) 02:44, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi.

Yes I should contact them for corrections. Thanks for the message.--Mani1 11:00, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

third world country
Hi Mani, I hope you are fine. Well we will have to talk some time, maybe from person to person. For now this is not possible. I would like to ask you: please be reasonable - I did not speak about third world countries, but please consider that actually it is not possible to make payments through paypal or moneybookers with Iran even some banks blocked their activity. And that has to deal with politics and therefore Wikipedia etc. is not the place to discuss this since here we are not about politics, but about making the best out of various situations and co-operation. I would find it great if we could now put all past not so nice discussions a part and simply start to co-operate. I mean you guys do really good work, so why should we allow for others to do what you can do? I don't read a word of Persian (well just some) but really I have enough faith in you to know that you are doing good. So where is the real problem? I believe it is assuming that I am negative because of the past experiences: be sure I am not. I'll subscribe to the Persian mailing list today - I just have to get some things ready. In the meanwhile I would kindly ask your for your help. Could you please help with the translation of the Sitenotice for the Fundraiser here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2007/Text_for_sitenotice#F - it is just two sentences and it would be really great. Again: please instead of making misunderstandings grow and divide the world, let's try to understand each other and assume first of all good faith. If you want to take the time and teach me about culture, possibilities and problems in Iran: that would be really great - I mean I get information through a group of people living in Teheran, but they are not the whole of Iran I suppose. The more one knows the better is the mutual understanding - so please help me to understand what you want to tell me, but please: let's avoid any kind of aggressiveness. Thank you and please keep up the good work done. --SabineCretella 11:11, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

p.s. Just that you are mentioning it that many rich Iranians don't even know about Wikipedia and Wikimedia ... what can be done about this? How can we tell them about Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation - if they agree with the scope of free knowledge for all than eventually they could be interested to help even with funds. Where can I find these people you are talking about? If you could help us here that would be really great ... Thanks again for all your efforts! --SabineCretella 11:41, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I wrote that
Section on the page, I had forgotten to update my userpage. Thanks for the heads up. The Iranian Persian → Tajik transliterator isn't very useful because the Perso-Arabic script does not write vowels. I'm working (very part time) on a better system, if you'd be interested in getting involved let me know. - Francis Tyers · 20:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

List of Iranian magazines
I have just redirected an expired PROD, Daneshmand magazine, to List of Iranian magazines rather than allowing it to be deleted. When you initially created the List, this magazine was included. In the stub, Daneshmand was noted as a Persian-language scientific magazine. I have looked at the NCBI-journals list, the Thomas Scientific journals list and the Menalib books and periodicals list (and a general Google search) and been unable to find reference to this scientific journal. Do you have some information that can be included in the List in order to verify the existence and type of this magazine? It does not need to be an on-line reference and it need not be in English ... just something to give confidence that the magazine exists and is a scentific journal.

Thank you. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 16:03, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

disabled external link (cais-soas)
I have bracketed in 'nowiki' tags an external link on your page that leads to a blacklisted site: www.cais-soas.com. The existence of this live link was preventing any additions to your user_talk page. I wanted to let you know that I had done that. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 16:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Zirnevis
You really shouldn't blank a page before putting a delete tag on it, the admin who comes along to read the article would need to see it before they delete it, so they'd have to go through the article history. In additon, a bald "delete" tag doesn't explain why you want to delete it, and is likely to get reverted. Which, in fact, I did. But I put the tag on it since it's a dictionary definition and is more appropriate for Wiktionary. Corvus cornix talk  22:45, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the message. It should be then moved as زیرنویس to the Persian wiktionary, since it is not an English word and has never been used in English.--Mani1 (talk) 22:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That would probably be up to the person who does the move, but you're probably right.  Corvus cornix  talk  23:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Template:Time measurement and standards
I've reverted your addition to this template, because it duplicates Template:Calendars (see the template's talk page). The Persian calendar is an old an important one, and still in use, but that can be said of a dozen other calendars, and that's what the Template:Calendars is for, not this one. The calendars listed on this template have a wider international influence.

Thanks for the attention, though. If Time-related articles interest you, consider joining WikiProject:Time. Cheers, Yamara ✉  12:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Homeless photo
Whilst I see your point, adding a photo such as this seems to be quite emotive, and Wikipedia isn't a SOAPBOX. Perhaps more appropriate for Homelessness in England? Or if you can add some sourced info about London's homeless population, probably more under Demographics of London then a picture might be appropriate to illustrate it. Paulbrock (talk) 10:04, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I think, your move not wanting to show all sides of a city in an informative article about it, is emotive. It is appropriate for that article and can also be appropriate for an article about Homelessness in England. One picture can be used in more instances in Wikipedia.--Mani1 (talk) 10:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I added the picture in Homelessness in England too. Actually this picture is very illustrative and representative. Anyone who has been to London knows how a common sight this is. In none of other Wikipedias they deemed it necessary to omit this picture. I think your move to delete it here from the article is emotive.--Mani1 (talk) 10:43, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It's representative of poverty in London, which is not discussed in anyway in the main article. The Economy section discusses the industry of London, not individual wealth or lack thereof.  If you want to add a sourced section discussing the relative wealth of residents in London, then the photo could be used.  Also how is homelessness in London, different from that in other major cities?  If it is, this needs to be highlighted. Paulbrock (talk) 11:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

You have a point there. I agree that an accompanying section is needed with this picture. For now, with the lack of such section I agree with omitting it from the main article. Take care.--Mani1 (talk) 11:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Massacres by Americans
I have nominated massacres by americans for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. HokieRNB (talk) 11:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Cyrus cylinder
Dear Mani, your vote for Cyrus cylinder has been canceled! May be because of this "Soapboxing votes will be ignored". please write a specialized description (I changed too). Thanks Iranway (talk) 12:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)(WAYIRAN)

re Dutch troops at Srebrenica
Hi there,

I'm not sure why you reverted my removal of your sentence, as I explained pretty clearly why I did so here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Srebrenica_massacre#sentence_regarding_Dutch_forces_at_Srebrenica

(It's already been reverted by someone else now, but just thought I'd draw my explanation to your attention). Cheers Jonathanmills (talk) 17:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops! Sorry, I was mistaken there -- I see you haven't reverted my removal (I also see I didn't even remove it properly, although this has now been done by someone else). Nevertheless, I *did* write an explanation as to why I was going to remove it (see the link above), so feel free to have a look if you're confused. Jonathanmills (talk) 17:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Complete İradət
Dear Mani, I have complete İradət to you (due to some policies, I have to write in English! here...). When you hear dogs barking, you know that village is near. Thanks again for your cooperation... -- Meisam.fa (talk) 13:17, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

The same goes for me dear Meisam. Due to some restrictions, I cannnot cooperate as much as I wish lately, but when I see your name in the 'recent changes' page I feel assured things cannot get out of hand. Barking dogs are but a small bump in the road. Good for a change.

Thanks for your message and take care.--Mani1 (talk) 14:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

hi mani
nice to see you here ! thanks for you effort -- Mardetanha talk 13:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Mardetanha-ye aziz, I am glad to see you're active in so many places. Thanks for your message. Take care.--Mani1 (talk) 18:42, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Vardges Petrosyan
Hi there. The article that you created on Vardges Petrosyan does not currently meet Wikipedia's notability guideline, and I have added a tag to it to indicate this. If you can provide references to establish this person's notability, please do; otherwise, it is likely that the article will be deleted. – SJL 03:40, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

zabanha
agha Mani be tajziyetalabha bahaneh nadeh lotfan. Damet garm--Babakexorramdin (talk) 00:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC) again. What is your purpose? Be sincere.Your edits serve only as confirmation for the separatists and ghomgarayan--Babakexorramdin (talk) 21:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Şemdinli
The source you provided directs to a registration-only Web site. Please provide a full citation so non-members can reach the article. --Adoniscik(t, c) 00:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Dashdorjiin Natsagdorj
Hi, in this edit, you added a source in Persian, apparently a book written in the 14th century. I don't quite see how this can be appropriate in an article about a 20th century Mongolian poet. What went wrong there? --Latebird (talk) 23:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Persian nectar
An article that you have been involved in editing, Persian nectar, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Persian nectar. Thank you. Tznkai (talk) 15:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Image tagging for File:Shahyad 111.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Shahyad 111.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:
 * Image use policy
 * Image copyright tags

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Media copyright questions. 07:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

rollback
Hi again, I have given your accounts the rollback permission. Please only use it for vandalism. John Vandenberg (chat) 13:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

vandalized!!!!!
Your page was blanked by an anon a few minutes ago. I reverted it using Huggle .Do you need it protected? Dalekusa (talk) 21:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Mani1! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created  is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. Please note that all biographies of living persons must be sourced. If you were to add reliable, secondary sources to this article, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the article:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 20:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Abel Posse -

Sockpuppetry case
You have been accused of sockpuppetry. Please refer to Sockpuppet investigations/Mani1 for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with notes for the suspect before editing the evidence page. Elockid ( Talk·Contribs ) 20:06, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

You're being discussed at the 3RR noticeboard
Hello Mani1. Please respond at WP:AN3. I see that you just did a page move of the article in dispute, with no discussion at all. Please join that thread to explain your thinking. EdJohnston (talk) 13:35, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Taraneh Javanbakht
An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Taraneh Javanbakht. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Articles for deletion/Taraneh Javanbakht (2nd nomination). Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.

Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Pls put this userbox in your user page if you support Green Movement of Iran.

Need help
Hello, I do not speak the Persian language but there is an article about Selena in the Persian language but there's only a couple of words. Can you please help by adding more information about this singer in the Persian version of the Selena article please and thank you. AJona1992 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC).

درخواست

 * درود، مانی من اشتباه کردم که مورد «حق تکثیر» مربوط به تو را با آن لحن مطرح کردم؛ به ویژه از یکشنبه به بعد (یعنی همان روزی که تو در واکنش به نوشته‌هایم، ازم شکایت آغازیدی) من همانگونه که گفتم هیچ «کینه [یا دشمنی] شخصی‌ای» با تو ندارم، نمی‌دانم چرا اینچنین برداشت کردی... می‌شد همان مورد را با لحن بهتری از آغاز به میان آورم... خوب حالا که سه روز از بستن من می‌گذرد و توهم که در صفحهٔ بحثم نوشتی که بهر «حفظ سیستم» مرا بستی... مطمئن باش اگر مرا باز کنی دیگر آن بحث را ادامه نمی‌دهم و آنگونه سخن نمی‌رانم... پس قضیهٔ «حفظ سیستم» حل می‌شود، سه روز هم که بسته بودم، پس با توجه به قوانین بستن ویکی‌پدیا که گفته بستن نباید بهر تنبیه باشد، لطفاً مرا باز کن، خوب؟ آن هم که دیدم نوشتی احتمال می‌دهی من «زاپاس‌بازی» کرده‌ام، اصلاً واقعیت ندارد، ... خواستی برو در متا درخواست چک کردن من را بده، ولی لطفاً اول بازم کن، بعد ... چون من که می‌دانم حتماً پاسخ آن درخواست چک کاربری منفی خواهد بود.... من داشتم طبق برنامه‌ای برای خودم ویرایش‌های خوبی انجام می‌دادم که با بستن تو ناتمام ماند، لطفاً بازم کن تا بدان‌ها برسم... من که در فضلی ناتم مقاله هیچ مشکلی ایجاد نکرده بودم ... من در این چند روز برای فاش نشدن IP واقعیم کوشیدم با این پروکسی‌های باز در صفحهٔ بحثت در ویکی‌فا این‌ها را بنویسم، ولی نشد چون همهٔ آن‌ها را یا نظام ج.ا.ا بسته بودن، یا مرد تنها و میثم! البته چه خوب هم شد که نشد زیرا امروز در ویکی انگلیسی در جایی از قول مدیری خواندم که کاربر بسته به هیچ روی حق ندارد، جز در صفحهٔ بحثش ـ آن هم پیرامون بسته شدنش چیزی بنویسد ـ ولی البته می‌تواند ایمیل بزند که من در ویکی به هیچ‌کس ایمیل نمی‌زنم (مانند خودت)... امروز سر ناهار یکهو به ذهنم رسید که بروم در بحثت در دیگر ویکی‌ها برایت پیغام بگذارم، نمی‌دانم چرا زودتر این به برمم نرسید! ولی برای محکم‌کاری و به خاطر اینکه گفتم شاید تو در دیگر ویکی‌ها هم مانند فارسی، ایمیل خود را وارد یا فعال نکرده باشی، این‌ها را در صفحه‌های بحث نافارسی بهزاد مدرس و به‌آفرید هم نوشتم تا اگر خودت خبردار نشدی، ایشان خبرت کنند ... پس لطفاً بازم کن و در دلیل باز کردنت بنویس: «گپ با کاربر» یا یک چیزی تو این مایه‌ها که خود بهتر می‌دانی... بدیهی‌است که اگر من به وعده‌ام عمل نکردم، می‌توانی دوباره زودی مرا ببندی... پس من انگیزه‌ای برای دروغ‌گویی کنونی به تو ندارم.... یوشیچی تویوهارا (talk) 11:09, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

درود.:
 * مردتنهای گرامی زحمت کشیدند برای من پیغام شما را فوروارد کردند.

پاسخ:

الان به‌جز من کاربر محسن عبداللهی و سعیدپروا هم از شما شکایت دارند و به خاطر شکایت محسن عبداللهی و رسیدگی نشدن توسط مدیران دیگر بود که من اقدام به بستن کردم. آیا شما قول می‌دهید که به‌جز من با بقیه کاربران هم با لحن بانزاکت صحبت کنید؟

(فردا نیستم و پس‌فردا دوباره آن‌لاین می‌شوم.) --ماني 20:53, 26 February 2010 (UTC)مانی

شكايت سعيد پروا كه اصلا نمي‌تواند وارد باشد، شكايت او مربوط به پاك كردن نقض حق تكثيرهاي او در مقاله «سوئيس» است كه من دو بار دو ويرايش كپي‌كارانه وي را از مقاله زدودم... خود وي هم مي‌داند كه شكايتش وارد نيست و از همين روست كه با وجود پيشنهادت در وپ:تام از من شكايت نكرد... اگر به صفحه بحث اين كاربر نگاهي افكنده شود، ديده مي‌شود كه اين كاربر به خاطر كپي‌كاري (و چند چيز ديگر) بارها از ديگر كاربران هشدار دريافت كرده‌است... (اتفاقا خوب است به خاطر پافشاري او بر نقض حق تكثير با وجود تذكرهاي فراوان ديگر كاربران و من به او، هشدار نهايي‌اي برايش توسط يكي از مديران _ مثلا خودت _ فرستاده شود) پيرامون شكايت محسن عبدالهي، من در آن ويرايش كه او از من به خاطرش شكايت كرد تنها خواستم او را از جريان چيزي كه پرسيده بود آگاه كنم... او كلا از خيلي از كاربران در همين وپ:تام و در وپ:تام هاي پيش شكايت‌هايي كرده بود كه وارد نبودند و توسط مديران ترتيب اثر داده نشدند ولي به هر حال مطمئن باشيد اگر بازم كنيد با او اصلا كاري نخواهم داشت و اصلا پي‌گير آن صحبت با او و يا صحبتي ديگر با او نخواهم شد... لطفا بازم كنيد اكنون 4 روز است كه مرا بسته‌ايد _ آن هم براي كسي كه در فضاي نام اصلي نه تنها عملكرد منفي‌اي نداشت بلكه بسيار هم مثبت بوده‌است _ بستن دو هفته براي بار نخست چنين كسي از ابتدا هم بسيار زياد بود (البته در نگر من) ... به هر حال اگر مرا باز كرديد و رفتم بعدش با لحن بد با خودت و يا كس ديگري (چه محسن عبدالهي و چه كس ديگري) سخن راندم، راحت مي‌توانيد دوباره ببنديد... پس باز كردن من نمي‌تواند چندان به هيچ روي هزينه سنگيني را بر چيزي يا كسي تحميل كند... باز هم تأكيد مي‌كنم كه بستن كاربران طبق قوانين ويكي‌پديا اصلا نبايد در راستاي تنبه باشد ... یوشیچی تویوهارا (talk) 06:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

کرمانشاه
اول از همه اینکه این سایت ,موثق نیست چون خود شما هم می بینید که زبان اکثر مناطق رو فارسی زده(پایین رو ببینید)و همچنین مطالب صفحه ی تبریز رو عینا از ویکی فارسی کپی کرده.در صورتی که این منبعی که من قرار دادم صراحتا می گوید که اکثریت جمعیت کرمانشاه را کردها تشکیل می دهند.

khoy

my refrence

Bahramm 2 (talk) 13:06, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hi! Thanks a lot for your translation of the left hand side calligraphy on the image of Humayun's tomb -  File:Humayun Tomb.JPG. Thanks again. -- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider t c s 09:27, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Dorood
لطفا مواظب شاعرهای مشهور پارسی باشید مانند مولانا/نظامی.. من چند روزی رفتم تعطیلی سپاسگزارم —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pahlavannariman (talk • contribs) 11:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Persian drill


The article Persian drill has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Article has been an unsourced stub for six years, no evidence of notability.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Persia, California


The article Persia, California has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * No references found, and could not find on a map. Also description is vague.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. TiMike (talk) 02:01, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Abjeez


The article Abjeez has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * A7 -- lacks sufficient indicia of notability.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Epeefleche (talk) 00:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of List of the localities around Tehran for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of the localities around Tehran is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of the localities around Tehran until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.  Ja Ga  talk 17:46, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Request
Hi dear Mani, I have noticed that a user on Croatian Wikipedia has created lots of articles about Iran and Iranians - from ancient Medes and Achaemenid Empire to modern Iran, from ancient cities like Persepolis to modern capital Tehran, from ancient rulers like Cyrus to current president Ahmadinejad, and including many other themes like Iranian Kurds or even Economy - those Croatian articles aren't just larger than their English or Persian counterparts but in many cases larger then both of them combined. Most of them are featured articles and he has uploaded lots of images and photos about Iran on Commons too. I think that you are one of most valuable users of FA:WP or maybe even the best of them. You have more than 100,000 edits there and it's definitely a great honor for anybody to receive a barnstar from your hands. I ask you to appreciate him for all of his efforts on behalf of Persian Wikipedia community or maybe all of Iranians. Here is the Orijentolog's talk page on Croatian Wikipedia. Thanks in advance.  A  MERICOPHILE 04:41, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Iranian football clubs in 2009–10 season for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Iranian football clubs in 2009–10 season is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of Iranian football clubs in 2009–10 season until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Vanadus (talk | contribs) 03:58, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Persian Wikipedia


The article Persian Wikipedia has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable website, per WP:NOTABLE, composed of first-hand source and one second-hand source of unclear credibility.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:56, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
I wanted to thank you for looking out for vandalisms in various webpages..you might want to see [] and here:..incase of future vandalisms..--108.18.145.11 (talk) 03:06, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Fareed30 (talk) 23:50, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

I mentioned your name at ANI edit-warring --Fareed30 (talk) 15:55, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Turandot (disambiguation)
Regarding your edits at Turandot (disambiguation): please observe WP:DABPRIMARY. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:57, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Lists of ancient doctors listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Lists of ancient doctors. Since you had some involvement with the Lists of ancient doctors redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 06:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Gozaresh (magazine) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Gozaresh (magazine) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Gozaresh (magazine) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. IamMM (talk) 16:35, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

رسیدگی
با سلام اینجانب توسط شما از انجام ویرایش منع شده‌ام در قسمت دلیل هم ذکر شده سو استفاده از چند حساب کاربری من که خود میدانم تنها یک حساب کاربری دارم و این هم همینست اگر با بعضی ویرایش های بنده مشکلی دارید به خودم اطلاع دهید هر چند ویرایش های جزئی بنده هیچکس را از آن ناراحت نمیکند و اینکه اصلاً کجا نوشته من چند حساب کاربری دارم ؟ در کجا مدرکی بر چنین حدسی وجود دارد ؟ چرا اعتبار خودتان را زیر سئوال میبرید ؟ با تشکر Turk.Dr (talk) 13:11, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of National Museum of Iran


A tag has been placed on National Museum of Iran requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from https://surfiran.com/mag/national-museum-of-iran/, https://irannationalmuseum.ir/en/%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%B1%D9%81%DB%8C-%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B2%D9%87-%D9%85%D9%84%DB%8C/, and https://iranpress.com/content/17854/tehran-weekend-national-museum-iran. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If the external website or image belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text or image — which means allowing other people to use it for any reason — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Donating copyrighted materials. The same holds if you are not the owner but have their permission. If you are not the owner and do not have permission, see Requesting copyright permission for how you may obtain it. You might want to look at Wikipedia's copyright policy for more details, or ask a question here.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Moxy - 12:14, 11 November 2023 (UTC)