User talk:Mann Mann/Archive 2014

please correct yours information
The tomb Of Shams Tabriz is in Multan city Provence Punjab country Pakistan.kindly check yours information and correct it. WWW.Facebook.com/groups/156232290204/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.186.92.162 (talk) 20:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Nope. Facebook is not a reliable source. Better source? --Zyma (talk) 20:11, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello
Hello i am Niko. How are you? (Mudak568 (talk) 19:14, 3 January 2014 (UTC))
 * Hi Nikolas. I'm good,and you? Any help? --Zyma (talk) 19:34, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * i am bad have broken ribs so in pain. as for help no thank you am just bored and decied to tlk to someone. (Mudak568 (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2014 (UTC))
 * I hope they become healed and healthy soon. But why you choose Wikipedia for talking? There are many forums on web better than W for the just-talking purpose. --Zyma (talk) 19:47, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * where i am atm has no internet or wifi. I am on my kindle that has free internet but only lets you on wiki or the kindle bookstore. That is why i m here....Some guy and his comrades didnt  like the look of me so beat me up so that how i hve broken ribs. (Mudak568 (talk) 19:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC))

Your questions
Hello Zyma!
 * 1) I've replied to your question on Talk:Lithuanian language on the same talk page. (Note that such tables are sometimes carefully done, for example the ones on Romance languages or Slavic vocabulary, and sometimes less so, like the one on Iranian languages, which is why people here tend to be lukewarm on them. They are certainly very interesting for lay readers who wish to examine similarities first-hand, but they can be quite annoying to babysit, and there are various issues associated with such tables. I wouldn't be surprised if you relied a lot on Wiktionary for the compilation of your table, and it's not even a bad idea in general.)
 * 2) Ottoman Turkish has indeed borrowed countless words and especially names from Persian, often ultimately from Arabic; I think borrowings from Arabic directly are rare, but hard to exclude in principle. So you're probably right that the name is from Persian, Kurdish seems much less likely because as far as I know, Turkish just hasn't borrowed much from Kurdish, especially not vocabulary associated with high culture; cacık may be a Kurdish loan.
 * 3) The German book you mean is probably the Indogermanisches etymologisches Wörterbuch. You should keep in mind, however, that this book, as popular as it is, especially among amateurs, is considerably ("slightly" strikes me as quite euphemistic) outdated – it's from 1959 and ignores modern laryngeal theory (check the article and talk page for more details). Therefore, most reconstructions and many alleged connections are dubious, and much of it has been superseded by more recent work, though a solid core is still valid and it is still a useful resource even for professional Indo-Europeanists, though more as a quarry/database and source of inspiration, and is never to be used uncritically as a straightforward source. Therefore it is unsuited for amateurs or as reference in Wikipedia articles. You can't know which parts are correct, which are dubious or controversial and which are generally considered incorrect now by experts. It's main virtue is simply that there is no updated version and no widely recognised and relied-on book that could supersede it completely. There are only partial updates. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 14:19, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Florian. Helpful notes. --Zyma (talk) 14:24, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Nizami Ganjavi
This is not a neutral point of view. None of the source does not say that his father was an ethnic Persian. The Persian poet, this does not mean that the Persian people. Mom Kurdish woman, so writing that he Persian people are not correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Az-507 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That's just your personal opinions. His Persian ethnicity is well-sourced and discussed on talk page. Next time, I will report you to admins. Okay? --Zyma (talk) 16:43, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Iranian Genetics
Sure I can have a look and add more details over the next few weeks, i hope. 09:47, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Archaic language
I don't know what we could say about that. An archaic language is simply a language that contains numerous archaisms by virtue of its age. Shakespeare's language is archaic, but it is not a contemporary language form. It is possible to imitate it quite authentically, but that doesn't mean anyone spontaneously speaks like that. A revival of an ancient language is possible, in principle, as the case of Hebrew shows, but that doesn't mean ancient languages cease to be archaic and end up as simply conservative, because that's not a natural development. Purified Greek (Katharevousa) is a deliberately archaised register of Modern Greek, but it's not a dialect that has naturally developped, either. So "archaic" means hardly more than "old and looking like it", at least when referring to natural languages. One could include a note in Conservative (language) to point out the difference, but a whole article strikes me as unpracticable. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Note that we have Archaism, too. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 17:32, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Persian etymologies
Do you read any German (or French, for that matter)? You could check these lecture notes. They have useful references. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 17:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

New proposals at Pending changes/Request for Comment 2014
Hello. Several new proposals have been submitted at Pending changes/Request for Comment 2014 since you last commented on it. You are invited to return to comment on the new proposals. Jackmcbarn (talk) 01:14, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

WP:PERM
Hi. I've just closed this request as  'Not done: Stale request' . This has no reflection  on  the user, but  you'll  probably  find that  although anyone can propose a user for this purely  technical  'right', admins are possibly likely  to  give less attention to  such  requests. Wading through  over 1,000 creations to  check  them  out  would also  be a daunting  task! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:11, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

TB
—  Yulia Romero  • Talk to me!  19:25, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

User Raayen
Hi,

This user constantly adds Arabs and Turks to the article of Iranian people despite my explanations that demonstrate it is not about genetics/DNA and suggestions to use the talk page. And also he constantly tries to represent Elamites as "Iranic" although they were distinc people who have nothing to do with Indo-Europeans and Semitics. Another problem is that, he tries to represent some Northwestern Iranians as "Persians"(just look at Gilaki people, Mazandarani people). Could you warn him? Because his edits are not objective and therefore, it makes him a pov-pusher. Lamedumal (talk) 10:30, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

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And can you check this article? "Ethnogenetic connections" section of the article consists of some informations depending on some Kazakh, Hungarian authors' claims. Are they reliable or objective sources? I am in a dilemma. Thus, I want to know your opinions. Lamedumal (talk) 11:16, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello
I wonder if you have any advise to what i should do about this article which keeps getting edited by a nationalistic POV-pusher who uses several accounts for his edits. --Mossadegh-e Mihan-dust (talk) 13:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. Send a detailed report (discuss his/her activity plus diffs) to WP:ANI or WP:AN3. Zyma (talk) 02:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Tajik language
Zyma how you doing.

The English Wikipedia uses the Common variation of a name for bodies or entities

The most common variation for Ferdowsi's name is Farsi/Dari (really perso Arabic Persian). If Tajik speakers need to know how his name is in tajiki then can see it in Encyclopedia Tajikestan

Ferdowsi lived at a time where Tajikestan did not exist as separate entity. Back then the only form of Farsi was the Persoarabic lettering. Ferdowsi also toiled 30 years to save the Farsi language for me and you! Persian brothers so we have stylistic differences in our language. Imagine if he was alive today to see how the Soveits have created a new lettering for his beloved language. Soveits made the Tajik alphabet in an attempt to isolate you guys (our Tajiki brothers and sisters) from their cultural roots in Iran. Why would you promote their alphabet?

Most of the publication by Ferdowsi are in the original farsi text. There fore his name should also be how he reflected on his work.

The Persian link addresses use of Persian in all our cultural continent. We worked hard on Wikipedia to create a fair and balanced system where we can give credit to you guys ! Our brothers and sisters that are outside of Iran but are connected culturally to us. We have even at the end of the Persian article extensive discussion on Tajik alphabet.

Lastly putting the Tajik variant of his name in the link is misleading. It implies that he is form Tajikestan which at the time did not exist. It was all one Iran or Persia.

Nobody is going to argue that you guys in Tajikestan don't have the same shared interested in his literature than we do in Iran or people do in areas like Afghanistan but you have to give credit when credit is due. In this case his name should remain in Persian for the sake of language of Farsi (Persain)

Remember his most famous poetic lines:

"I suffered 30 years so I can save the Persian language"

Don't let his 30 years and 2,600 years of Iranian history be subject to nationalistic sentiments bro. Be fair!

Thanks

_Persi Dr. Persi (talk) 01:36, 24 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Dear Dr. Persi, I started a new topic/section on that article discussion. Please take your concerns to there. Thanks. Zyma (talk) 04:36, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Warning removed
You warned someone for something that happened 2 days ago, and that they have already been blocked for. As such, I removed the warning D  P  08:28, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry... That was my mistake. I will be more careful next time. Thanks. --Zyma (talk) 03:30, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Az-507
See WP:AN. Dougweller (talk) 11:56, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


 * I supported it and commented there. --Zyma (talk) 07:50, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Re:
Hi. The "related ethnic groups" parameter is POV. Not only in the Hazara article, but it all articles. Except for a few examples, every ethnic and ethno-linguistic group is related to neighboring peoples. I see no use in such a parameter. It's common sense. --Lysozym (talk) 01:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Tajik people
Protected this for a week after reverting some copyvio. Do you think there is sockpuppetry going on? If you do, please let me know on my page. Dougweller (talk) 20:51, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

April 2014
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Parthian Empire
Thank you for the award, and your kind words. Cheers. Pericles of Athens Talk 10:26, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Jovovich
Hi, i really don't remember that i edited something there. I edit sports artices. --95.85.159.142 (talk) 10:01, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

User:Akocsg
You might want to keep an eye on this editor. I found this edit which falsifies the information stated by O. Maenchen-Helfen. --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:18, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Russian Jews
hello Zyma. i looked your contributions and concluded that you are russian. if so, i have some questions to you about russian jews. bests. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daru Dakitu (talk • contribs) 18:29, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

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