User talk:Mantanmoreland

Copyright on books
Your remark on books whose authors hold the copyright was interesting. Could you tell me more about this through my talk page? Whatever the publisher (Elsevier, Springer Verlag or others), I've always been asked to sign a copyright transfer form when I published scholarly content. I've always resented this. David.Monniaux 22:48, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

RfC opened on my conduct related to the Gary Weiss article
Hi Mantanmoreland! I've just opened an RfC on myself for my conduct in a dispute that you were involved with concerning the Gary Weiss article. The RfC is located here and I welcome your comments or questions. CLA 21:19, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive
 WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive! WikiProject Biography is holding a three month long assessment drive! The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unassessed articles. The drive is running from June 1, 2007 – September 1, 2007.

Awards to be won range from delicacies such as the WikiCookie to the great Golden Wiki Award. There are over 110,000 articles to assess so please visit the drive's page and help out!

This drive was conceived of and organized by Psychless with the help of Ozgod. Regards, Psych less Type words! .


 * Sure I'll pitch in, but 113,385 unassessed articles? You don't need editors, you need members of the cast of "Mission Impossible" ;) --Mantanmoreland 03:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Good complaints
Thank you -- am moving to my main page right under the barnstar from....err....--Mantanmoreland 21:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * See also, another board that isn't getting the attention it deserves...User:Bishzilla/Dispute Resolution Board And Swedish Massage Parlor...--MONGO 22:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I have just made use of it, so let's see what happens.--Mantanmoreland 22:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Max Keiser
You may revert my changes if you disagree, but personally I feel that this article is a vanity piece and should be roundfiled accordingly. Burntsauce 19:09, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Short and distort
I'd appreciate your guidance concerning this article, since you have knowledge of finance. In your opinion is this a neologism? I have only rarely encountered this term of usage and I am dubious about devoting an entire encyclopedia entry to it.--Samiharris 17:12, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll file this under "no s--t, Sherlock."--Mantanmoreland 18:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

COI
You may want to take a look at. --Agha Nader 23:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Flattered
Planning something?  Piperdown 04:14, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Max Keiser
I see your point on the Notable Wikipedian thing, that template is always problematic in situations like this. My basis was the licensing on Image:M Keiser.jpg - do you think that image should be flagged as possible copyvio pending WP:OTRS verification of source? Videmus Omnia 16:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

NPA
It was inadvertent ... in the process of adding a section on off-wiki harassment to WP:HARASS, I mistakenly cut that out. Happens when you just get up ... Blueboy96 15:27, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Sourcing on your created pages
I threw up a few tags on your created pages. Some of them are questionable notability, but I think in general they are written from from a fair point of view and are informative. Many of them have improper citing, as I'm sure you know. I won't throw tags up on all of them, just giving you a head's up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gwynand (talk • contribs)

Your opinion welcome at deletion review for Plot of Les Mis
After Articles for deletion/Plot of Les Misérables closed as a deletion, I'm challenging the way the closing administrator acted as in violation of Wikipedia rules. Your participation is welcome at that discussion, Deletion review/Log/2007 July 14. Please keep in mind that only arguments related to either new information or to how Wikipedia rules were violated or not violated in closing the discussion will be considered. It isn't a replay of the original AfD. I'm familiar with WP:CANVASSING and I am alerting everyone who participated in that discussion to the deletion review. I won't contact anyone again on this topic, and I apologize if you consider this note distracting. Noroton 04:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Merger
Looks good to me, as long as Microcap stock fraud is the acquirer.--Samiharris 22:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Banned user
Thank you for clarification. Article is deleted. --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 21:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Borgnine_as_marty.jpg
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NYU in popular culture
This article was recently deleted and I am submitting it for deletion review. As I see you supported keeping Yale in popular culture - an article almost exactly the same as NYU in popular culture - please support me in restoring this page. As the creator of the page I plan on bringing it to the level of Wikipedia in culture should it be restored. Please comment on the process here: Deletion_review/Log/2007_August_14. Your support is appreciated. Thanks. -- Noetic Sage 23:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

David Rockefeller
Hi,

I just was wondering why you were reverting my change. David Rockefeller is a central figure in a lot of conspiracy theories, so I think the category "Conspiracy" fits into his entry.

Lord Chao 00:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Paul burke in naked city.jpg)
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Barnstar
Hey, thank you. Your support has been unwavering throughout this, and it's meant a huge amount to me, particularly as you've been laboring under the same situation yourself. It's these messages of support that put it all in perspective. SlimVirgin (talk) (contribs) 01:08, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Arbitration case
I have requested arbitration regarding WP:BADSITES and its derivative in WP:NPA, and named you as a party in this case. Phil Sandifer 00:17, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:No personal attacks
Since you seem to have an opinion on this proposed change (based on your removal of the text thrice), could you please join the discussion on the talk page? Picaroon (t) 00:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Attack sites opened
Hello, Mantanmoreland. The arbitration case in which you are listed as a party to has opened. Please provide evidences on the evidence page for the Arbitrators to consider. You may also want to utilize the workshop page for suggestions.

For the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale &#124; Blast him / Follow his steps 20:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * 10-4.--Mantanmoreland 23:01, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Rec
As a Catholic proud of his Jewish heritage, I think you would enjoy reading Daniel Boyarin's dense and very scholarly - but well-written and very thoughtful - A Radical Jew which is about Paul (Boyarin is a Talmud professor at UC Berkeley) Slrubenstein  |  Talk 19:59, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary
Ah, an occasional humorous edit summary works wonders. JFW | T@lk  23:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

On the Jews and Their Lies

 * I take your word on it (the non-necessity). In was just concerned that this article not duplicate Martin Luther. I certainly agree that this is an article on a Book, not on Martin Luther.


 * On an other issue, shouldn't "their' begin with a capital, so: "Their"? That really bothers me, as I pay careful attention to Book titles. The alternative is to change "Lies" into "lies" (Library of Congress Format - but I don't like that.


 * Best, User:Ludvikus

PS: Get my point? So why's the above NOT Red? --Ludvikus 18:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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Requests for arbitration/Attack sites Closed
The above named Arbitration case has closed.

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For the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale &#124; Blast him / Follow his steps 20:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

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Malcolm Johnson
Yeah, but I'm not sure it'll be acceptable to you. Please see Talk:Lyman Ray Patterson. I'm not sure if this fellow went to the same school as Patterson, but I'm fairly sure the motivation for my action was pretty much the same motivation. John Carter (talk) 15:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Um...
Noticed the link to a foreign language template, assumed it wasn't a translation of your user page, deleted it. John Nevard (talk) 07:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Elonka 3
Thank you for your support in my RfA. It was definitely a dramatic debate, that landed on WP:100! I paid close attention to everything that was said, and, where possible, I will try to incorporate the (constructive) criticism towards being a better administrator. I'm taking things slowly for now, partially because of the holidays and all the off-wiki distractions. :) I'm also working my way through the New admin school and double-checking the relevant policies, and will gradually phase into the use of the new tools.  My main goals are to help out with various backlogs, but I also fully intend to keep on writing articles, as there are several more that I definitely want to get to WP:FA status! Thanks again, and have a great new year, --Elonka 05:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Importing crap from WR
Edits like this are entirely inappropriate. Please don't import crap from WR.  Corvus cornix talk  04:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe post a link to WR without a hyperlink?  Corvus cornix talk  05:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that could work.  Corvus cornix talk  05:11, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Non-hyperlinked
Try http://www.yahoo.com Wjhonson (talk) 05:46, 26 January 2008 (UTC) Thanks! I just omitted the "http" but I'll do that.--Mantanmoreland (talk) 05:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments after archiving
No big deal. Let the comments stay. That creates less drama. Jehochman Talk 20:57, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa
I wish to thank you for being supportive of my effort to regain my adminship. Though it was not successful, your support was still very much appreciated. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. Thank you!--MONGO 06:45, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the headsup
I guess I'm one of the people who've noticed your good work on articles before. Good luck avoiding the stalkers. John Nevard (talk) 05:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

RFC/U about you
Requests for comment/Mantanmoreland. Cool Hand Luke 06:38, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment directed largely to you: Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Mantanmoreland. Cool Hand Luke 08:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Comment on your RFC
Re this comment you made -. Who is Sara, please? Neıl ☎  17:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Wait, never mind, I figured it out from context. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#060">Neıl <u style="text-decoration:none;color:#060">☎  17:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

RfArb filed
Please note I have filed a Request for Arbitration about the current dispute. It is available here. SirFozzie (talk) 20:42, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Mantanmoreland
An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Mantanmoreland/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Requests for arbitration/Mantanmoreland/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 22:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Utterly meaningless, eh?
I was wondering if you could either (1) explain to the community what happened to you in October 2006, or (2) explain why you've lied to all of us so long. Cool Hand Luke 22:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * So I take it you have no intention of explaining? Cool Hand Luke 20:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

hm
An IP reverted your posting here. At first impulse, I wanted to restore, but then decided against because it goes too much into the direction of WP:NLT for my taste. User:Dorftrottel 14:40, February 18, 2008
 * Imho, the ArbCom should decide about it. User:Dorftrottel 14:51, February 18, 2008

Sorry
Shouldn't have used that language. It was over-the-top. Feel free to explain what happened to you in October 2006. Cool Hand Luke 03:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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Email
Re your email to me...I don't think it's a threat, but a warning you should heed. Did you talk to Lar about it? — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 23:07, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

G'Day Mantan
I thought it would be polite to let you know that there's a(nother) discussion about you at the admin.s noticeboard at the moment.

I also noticed that you haven't edited in over a week, and thought I'd ask you if you did plan on continuing working on the wiki? There's obviously a presumption that you wouldn't like to be banned from editing, but I thought I'd come to the horse's mouth so to speak! A short note about your intentions here would at least let everyone know where you stand, I guess...... best, Privatemusings (talk) 03:12, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Events overtake me, as so often they do.... you'll know by now that you've been indefinitely blocked from editing, which in some ways actually makes the answer to the above question even more relevant! - I think it would be helpful to know - would you like to return to editing? Privatemusings (talk) 04:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Better question is one that asks you, Privatemusings, if you want to continue editing. You were fortunate to get only a 90 day break as far as I am concerned...so don't go stirring up drama.--MONGO 08:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * MONGO, this is not helpful. Please don't escalate matters with block threats. Carcharoth (talk) 10:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Account blocked
Hello, Mantanmoreland.

I have blocked your account and that of pursuant to the AN thread mentioned above. Despite there being some significant dispute about what, exactly, is a proper response; there is overwhelming consensus that you have abused a sockpuppet account, despite having been strongly admonished not to so in the past by an arbitrator.

Please note that this is, very specifically, not a ban. If you can convince the community that you intend to contribute productively and within Wikipedia policy, you are welcome to make your case for unblocking this account. Placing the unblock template will attract administrator attention to your talk page, although I expect it will be closely watched for the foreseeable future. &mdash; Coren (talk) 12:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Seconded. I myself am watching your talk page in case you do decide to post an unblock request ... but bear this in mind. Your trust with the community is hanging by an eyelash--now the ball's in your court. There are quite a few admins' opinions on where to go with this (including mine) which bear on your explanation. Blueboy96 12:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Maybe you want to edit that unblock request: "Although there may be substantial appearance that I am Samiharris, I will comply fully with the arbcom decision, including to only use one account and to avoid all editing that represents an actual or perceived conflict of interest."  I think that repeating the denial without providing a credible reason is unpalatable. Jehochman  Talk 13:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I see Doc glasgow has already unblocked, and suggested the matter be taken to arbitration. OH WAIT, IT WAS JUST THERE, WASN'T IT. - David Gerard (talk) 13:28, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Regrettably, it was. And due to the lack of a conclusive decision, there is now wheel warring. How regrettable. Folks, please stop playing block pong with this account. Jehochman  Talk 13:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * One block and one unblock is not yet ping-ponging. It falls into that grey area where not everyone agrees it is wheel-warring. If someone reblocks, that will be clear wheel-warring. But as Jay Jay has said, the water from the burst dam is moving too fast at the moment for calm discussion. Carcharoth (talk) 13:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I note that you have not been participating in the arbitration case for the past several days and before that had participated to only a limited extent. If you have any additional information or evidence to present that may be useful to the Arbitration Committee or the community, including any explanation of the actual or perceived relationships between this account, Samiharris, and any other present or former accounts, please present it as soon as possible. Thank you. Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration/Mantanmoreland
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Wikipedia's role with respect to serious off-wiki or "real world" controversies and disputes is to provide encyclopedic coverage of such matters from a neutral point of view where they are notable and sufficiently documented in reliable sources. Neither Wikipedia's mainspace article content, nor its administrative and dispute-resolution procedures culminating in Arbitration, are intended or may be used as a vehicle for off-wiki disputes such as those involving the financial markets or legal or regulatory issues. Actions related to the articles involved, including naked short selling, overstock.com, Patrick M. Byrne, the (now-redirected article) Judd Bagley, and Gary Weiss, have been repeatedly disruptive and have had serious implications both on and off wiki. Any current of future editor making substantial edits to these articles is direct ed:
 * (A) To edit on these from only a single user account, which shall be the user's sole or main account;
 * (B) To edit only through a conventional ISP and not through any form of proxy configuration;
 * (C) To edit in accordance with all Wikipedia policies and to refrain from any form of advocacy concerning any external controversy, dispute, allegation, or proceeding; and
 * (D) To disclose on the relevant talk pages any circumstances (but not including personal identifying information) that constitute or may reasonably be perceived as constituting a conflict of interest with respect to that page.

Any uninvolved admin may impose reasonable restrictions, after warning, upon involved articles or editors. Knowledgeable and uninvolved editors are urged to review these articles to ensure accuracy, fairness, and adherence to wiki policies. User:Mantanmoreland, under any current or future account, is banned from editing articles related to Gary Weiss, Patrick Byrne, Overstock.com, Naked Short Selling, and other mainspace articles in the area of dispute, broadly construed. He may make suggestions on talk pages, subject to the requirements of remedy 1 in the decision. User:Mantanmoreland is directed to edit Wikipedia from only a single user account and to advise the Arbitration Committee of any change of username, and to edit only through a conventional ISP and not through any form of proxy configuration.
 * For the committee, — Rlevse  •  Talk  • 21:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

That was constructive
I consider this statement a constructive move forward on your part, and I thank you for making it. Noroton (talk) 16:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed, that is a step in the right direction ... almost enough, in my view, to take a ban off the table. Blueboy96 17:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, you still need to apologize for your past, bad-faith behavior. Right here on your talk page is probably the best place. Cla68 (talk) 07:28, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews impostor account
As suggested by Wikinews, posting a link to this post there, which was indeed by me.--Mantanmoreland (talk) 13:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I have renamed the impostor to "Impostor of Mantanmoreland" - the account was already indef. blocked. And renamed the account you created on Wikinews from Mantan to Mantanmoreland to avoid futher impersonation. --Brian McNeil /talk 14:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Popeyes
FYI... Al Copeland claimed he named the Popeyes Chicken & Biscuits chain after the fictional detective Jimmy "Popeye" Doyle in the movie The French Connection, whose nickname was unrelated to the cartoon character Popeye the Sailor. The chain later acquired rights to use the namesake cartoon character for marketing. The company's early brand became deeply tied to the cartoon character with its sponsorship of the "Popeye & Pals" children's show in New Orleans, and the character appeared on items from packaging to racing boats. As of 2006, the Popeyes' online history omits any reference to the cartoon, though some international markets, notably Puerto Rican restaurants, continue to use the Popeye's (cartoon character) theme. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.3.128.3 (talk) 20:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If that can be sourced, fine. However, the Popeye logo is the same as the typography of the cartoon.--Mantanmoreland (talk) 20:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, after the chain was founded, it partnered with whoever owns the license to the Popeye cartoon to use the character in its advertising. But the chain was initially named for the movie detective, not the cartoon sailor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.3.128.3 (talk) 13:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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Help Me Finish and Edit This Article
Hello, you may not recall who I am but I am the user who originally started the Dominick Pezzulo article about the September 11th hero. Unfortunately it was speedy deleted before I could react recently, and I have uploaded my old backup page. There is no history before the revertion, so I am requesting your help to clean and edit the page. On the original Dominick Pezzulo page you were kind enough to show me some mistakes and flaws about my editing and helped me change it. I ask of you to lend a helping hand once again and clean up this article to meet wikipedia standards. (and to ensure it doesnt get "deleted" again). Thank you. - Penfish (talk) 22:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Block
I have blocked you for two weeks, and User:Bassettcat indefinitely, for abusive sock-puppetry or otherwise being in breach of both puppetry policy and the remedies of the case Requests for arbitration/Mantanmoreland. The relevant details can be found at WP:ANI#Mantanmoreland and Bassettcat.

This should also be considered a final warning on some matters in that post.

FT2 (Talk 21:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Due to a very strong community consensus at the AN/I discussion FT2 linked above, I have reblocked you indefinitely. Unless the community changes its mind, consider this a formal community ban.  krimpet ✽  18:14, 29 May 2008 (UTC)


 * See Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive426 for the complete archived discussion. See also the subsequent discussion on that page about what to do with the targeted articles. - Face 23:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikidrama yet to be oversighted...
See Administrators%27_noticeboard/Mantanmoreland

I guess it explains why this account was blocked, but the discussions are far more interesting. The Gary Weiss page is so blocked up you can't even edit the talk page. It is completely misleading, of course. --Intentionally unsigned 01:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.175.18.130 (talk)

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Adele
Dear fellow wikipedia editor or administrator,

Greeting to you my fellow contributors and friends. I trust that you are all well and in good health and spirits.

I am a continued and consistent user of our open contributor forum. I have edited several articles and have worked with each of you in at least one or two instances. My most contentious edits and requests have been Jose Baez's birthplace and The Capeman BLP.

As you can see, I have continued to use my anonymous IP address in place of a regular user id or moniker. This is a personal choice and one that I most likely will continue.

My reason for contacting you is I request your assistance and input in relation to a BLP that I believe has the potential to continue to draw a very large number of readers and potential editors and others. The article in question is Adele, the singer. The article has many inconsistencies and errors contained within it. The article has been locked down and several edits reverted that have 1) validicity and potentially correct/new iinformation 2) Absolutely no talk page entries or discussion  taking place whatsoever and when someone does use the talk page it is ignored or easily dismissed without a single opinion or answer to the person proposing the discussion.

I must state that I have personally not made one change to this article at all! I feel it is important to state I have no knowledge of this BLP subject whatsoever. In fact, I know nothing about her other than what is contained in the article itself. and the cited references contained within. My only contributions to anything regarding the subject is to the talk page for the article and a registered editor's user talk page.

My first entry was dated May 11, 2012 when I contributed to the talk page detailing specifically the inconsistencies within it and at the least opening a discussion and at the most requesting article editing. I also included one or two small constructive suggestions to hopefully clear some confusion I experienced in the article. No additional discussion by anyone was offered at all. (It was like I was the only one who knew that a talk page even existed). My next entries were 7 days later. and true to my mo, I become contentious and somewhat aggressive in an attempt to provoke any response whatsoever.

I am a constructive user and sometimes editor in subjects that I know are correct and I possess the knowledge and information to challenge constructively. I must apologize for my contentious tendencies and state once again I am nearly always a reasonable and fair person.

My problems with this article is outlined in the talk pages. The claim that the vandalism is persistent, I must question this as I see no persistance, nor a reason for an editor to assign a 4 month lockdown. Also, currently the last edit has reverted causing the removal of an inclusion that this artist is a pop artist when the article itself states this fact in a number of paragraphs and references within it.

I only request that you please offer a little time and review the article, talk page and recent edits and reverts. I would not ask this of you, if I did not know that this article was in need of such drastic assistance. In addition, due to the huge fame of this artist, I believe this article should really be helped by those I know are fair, just, caring and competent to the wiki community.

I have also requested the assistance in the wiki chat portal this morning outlining my concerns there as well. Unfortunately, I have much less confidence in that forum than I can say I do have in you all. The only response that I really received was nearly a dozen users immediately exited and left after stating the facts as I have here.

Any and all assistance and aid you may render, I am sure the wiki community will be the better for.

Best regards always.

Mark R65.8.151.206 (talk) 16:42, 18 May 2012 (UTC)