User talk:Manueldelpiloto

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Proposed deletion of The Rocket (Belgian band)


The article The Rocket (Belgian band) has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Currently sourced entirely by primary and unreliable sources. Searches did not turn up enough to pass WP:GNG, and certainly doesn't pass WP:NMUSIC."

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 * Hi, thank you for your feedback. I created this page, judging its notability and source quality on that of similar pages on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Belgian_punk_rock_groups, such as F.O.D.. I am very much willing to improve this page based on your feedback, but I am not sure about the difference in quality between those pages, which makes it hard to determine the focus areas for improvement. Would it for instance improve the quality of this page if it contained less information, eg. about the history of the band, so the collaboration with Motion City Soundtrack (which is more relevant to the pop punk community than the history or members of the band) is more prominent?
 * On the subject of notability, I would like to note that there is definitely value in the local (Belgium and neighbouring countries) notability for bands such as The Rocket and F.O.D., with for example two or more albums on one of the more important indie labels and having been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio station. I'd gladly accept your suggestions to improve this (and other) pages! Manueldelpiloto (talk) 06:46, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi there. While it can be helpful to look at other articles as examples, in the case of notability, that's not always the case, see WP:OSE. For bands, the two main parameters are either WP:GNG, wherein you have 3 or more in-depth articles about the band which are not interviews (interviews are considered primary sources, so therefore can't go to notability).  The sources also have to be reliable and secondary. Right now, only primary or non-reliable sourcing is present. I'm not familiar with European music magazines, but that's where I'd look. Because of the commonality of the name, I couldn't find any in-depth coverage. WP:NBAND lists 12 criteria, where if met, the band may be considered notable.  If they meet at least one of them, and there is independent sourcing to prove it, then that could lead to their being notable, depending on which ones they are.  For instance, if they had won a Grammy, that alone would guarantee them notability. Hope this helps.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:30, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that's helpful. I'll look into reliable, secondary sources and update the page. Manueldelpiloto (talk) 13:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)