User talk:Manway/Archives/2009/December

Balboa Bay Club
I added some references to Balboa Bay Club and removed some text that might have been considered advertising. -- Eastmain (talk) 05:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
...for reverting the personal attack on my talk page! Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 08:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reverting vandalism on my user page .. :) arun  talk  13:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject California ad
If you want to promote WikiProject California, you could leave the code for the ad on your talk page. The ad code is - Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 22:26, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Psichogios Publications
I am developing a page for a publishing house the book's of which I have thoroughly enjoyed within the past few years. However, once I wrote the article, I got a message that it meets the criteria for speedy deletion. Why is that? I read Scholastic's site first, and I don't see why Psichogios' should be deleted. Please let me know if I am missing something.

Regards, (Psichogios Publications (talk) 01:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC))

You are correct! The mistake was on the user name. Can I delete it or change it?

(Psichogios Publications (talk) 01:19, 22 December 2009 (UTC))

Doing great!
Long time, no see! Yeah, I'd gotten a message about that thing yesterday and voted to delete it; it seems to have been recreated and tagged as a speedy when I got your first note. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 00:52, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. I'll drop you a line ASAP.  --PMDrive1061 (talk) 01:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: New Boyz discography
Hello Manway, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of New Boyz discography - a page you tagged - because: the two articles should be merged; this one has some information that isn't in New Boyz (videos, for example). Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 06:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note. I don't know anything about the band, so I assumed they were regular music videos. I'm going to just go ahead and merge the two articles. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 06:34, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Nephite
Hello Manway, I noticed that you recently tagged this page for speedy deletion as an attack page, could you please explain why? Jeffrey Mall ( talk  •  be merry ) -  06:36, 23 December 2009 (UTC) Jeffrey Mall ( talk  •  be merry ) -  06:45, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

STD Site
Manway, in order for a website to be an attack site it must contain malicious software. Did you receive a malicious software notice from that site? You are citing policies about the content of Wikipedia articles, not pages linked to from those articles. Placing a link to a list is not the same as writing a biography about a living person or altering a biography already written. I feel that you are letting your are letting your philosophical objections to the websites fraud policy govern your decision making. You seem more concerned with hurting the website than whether or not the link is relevant to the article. I am going to air on the side of public safety and restore my edit. I can guarantee you that every HIV/AIDS criminal arrest record on that website is accurate and that the list is the most comprehensive list of AIDS criminals that can be found in one place. The fraud policy for user reports is for another section and is completely irrelevant. Do us both a favor and don't waste time by perpetuating a game of back and forth editing. --Cyrussullivan (talk) 05:59, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Manway, You have a good point about some of the celebrities in regards to whether the cited source would be considered by Wikipedia as a reliable source as per their own definition. The celebrity disclaimer simply states that they compiled a list of celebrities from published sources, so it essentially says report X is based source Y. I never really gave much thought to whether or not Wikipedia would consider source Y as reliable in cases of celebrity gossip sites. Maybe a different phrase is needed such as "List of Reported Famous People with Hepatitis C" in which case the reliability of Y would not be relevant since their publishing of the article made it a fact that a specific celeb was reported as having Hepatitis-C. The criminal list on the other hand is based on reports from news agencies and not tabloids. Remember that we are talking about different lists here one of which being user created, another created by the site in reference to in some cases tabloid news reports, and the third referencing reports from news agencies of criminal charges that have been filed. The latter being the most reliable since in each case a news agency reported that an arrest had been made. News agencies always verify arrest reports with law enforcement, so they are a reliable source of whether or not the subject of an article was in fact arrested and charged with a specific crime for reasons stated in the arrest report.--Cyrussullivan (talk) 04:33, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I also have a general question for you since you obviously have a great deal of Wikipedia experience and I don't. I would not add a link to something if I did not believe that it added value to the article, but in many cases I read a Wikipedia article in which I am aware of a page containing a video located elsewhere that does not offer any new information. For example Magic Johnson's Page and this You Tube Video. Do you think that external links such as the Magic Johnson example should be added to Wikipedia articles?--Cyrussullivan (talk) 03:39, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Manway, your statements about the website STD Carriers as an unreliable source of information in reference to links added to List of people with hepatitis C and Criminal transmission of HIV are not accurate. You are correct in the fact that the website assumes no responsibility for the content of the International STD Carrier Registry as a whole because it contains information published by users. This does not apply to portions of the list created by the website including Celebrities with Hepatitis C and Criminal HIV/AIDS Transmission Arrest Records in which case every report has a documented source that includes a link to an online article at a minimum and in many cases embedded video of news reports as seen in the case of this HIV positive sex offender. You also posted inaccurate information about my contributions on my talk page.--Cyrussullivan (talk) 02:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

In the case of List of people with hepatitis C you implied that I added “biographical information about living persons” when in fact I added a link to a list of living celebrities with Hepatitis-C in which the link text clearly labeled the link as a list of names while not containing any real name. Obviously a link to a list of names clearly labeled as such does not add any biographical information to a page. It also cannot be considered to be libelous since any string of text along the lines of “list of X” is not capable of being libelous unless “X” contains a person’s name and a statement about that person.--Cyrussullivan (talk) 02:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC) In the case of Criminal transmission of HIV you stated again that I added information about living persons when all I added was a link to Criminal HIV/AIDS Transmission Arrest Records that did not include information about any individual being added to the Wikipedia page. You also claimed that I was adding poorly referenced information when I was adding a link to the largest list of people arrested for HIV transmission crimes available online that provides references to online articles used to create the reports.--Cyrussullivan (talk) 02:58, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Mark Green (author) nominated for deletion
Hey Manway, please have a look and weigh in at Articles for deletion/Mark Green (author). Thanks, and Merry Christmas! Drmies (talk) 18:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Coins
Mr Manway, please also have another look over those non-English external links at Ancient Chinese coinage‎, Coin and Banknote for their constructiveness. Thanks Efficiency Kasai 327 (talk) 08:58, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Jonathanberezutskiy
Ged UK  20:45, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Chill IT Pty Ltd
The page doesn't seem like advertising to me. Don't you think CSD A7 (Unremarkable company) would have been a better tag? -- Raziman T V (talk) 09:14, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You certainly have a point. But in my mind any article that ends with "You can contact (company) at (website or phone number)" is advertising. Guess I spent too many years in the ad business. Thanks for the note and nice to meet you. Regards. --Manway (talk) 09:19, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I just considered it equivalent to an external link. Anyway, I guess what matters is that the page had to be deleted and it has been. Nice to meet you too. Thanks -- Raziman T V (talk) 09:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)