User talk:Manway/Archives/2011/March

March 2011
Hi Manway. Thank you for your work on patrolling pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I just wanted to inform you that I declined to delete Dr. Rupert Opie, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion because of the following concern: the criterion you used does not cover this kind of page or the reason you specified is not a valid reason for speedy deletion. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion and especially what is considered non-criteria. In future you should rather tag such pages for proposed deletion or start an appropriate deletion discussion. Article is about a TV comedy  show character. Kudpung (talk) 05:36, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello, and thank you for your help with my new acquaintance with Wikipedia. I was under the impression that all of the information I included in the Northern Burlington County Regional School District was factual, unbiased, and properly sourced. I believe that the information I submitted is important and should be included - is there a way this can be done correctly? Also, I apologize if I am using this "talk" page incorrectly; again, I am new to this. --Jhermesmann (talk) 01:35, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Concern about a biographical article
I have a concern about a biographical article Joseph Jett. Apparently the subject of the article has changed it in the past, removing criticisms. Now tonight, USER:Comix03072011 signs up at 19:17 hours and at 19:21 starts a string of 31 edits to the Jett article in 7 hours. Quite a few of those changes take out criticism of Jett and replace it with glowing reports. Am I seeing things or is this unusual? Thanks for a second look. --Manway (talk) 03:08, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Sec.  Chzz  ►  03:37, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I suggest talking to the user and informing him/her about WP:NPOV, WP:COI, etc. in a gentle manner, and work out restoring some of the material that was removed. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  03:37, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Jeez, fetchy, give me a chance!
 * Firstly, I have alerted our amazing "Biographies of living persons Noticeboard" - please see Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard.
 * Next, as advised, you can of course edit the article directly to address your concerns. For a biography of a living person, you can definitely abolustely remove any unreferenced information - especially if it could be considered derogatory - pending the person submitting it supplying a reliable source.
 * Speak to the new user - on User talk:Comix03072011. Ask 'em about what they are adding; ask 'em for the sources. Try to explain the need for verifiability. I will make a start on that now; I'll post to their talk page.
 * In essence: for BLP stuff; if it lacks references, remove it - and then discuss it.
 * Hope that helps; I suspect my posting to BLPN will help further - but if you do have any further specific concerns, please use another . Best,  Chzz  ► 04:02, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

(re. reply on my talk) Great, be bold! Excellent stuff. But do also consider trying to contact User talk:Comix03072011 - see what they're up to. Be nice to the new user, and all that. struck; ooh, you did - even better! sorry, I missed it when I first replied Anyway - yes, you're quite right; I shouldn't be here; I should be away from this place, doing other stuff. Gah; I even fail at failing - I can' t stay away, 'coz I can't resist a call for help! Heh. But then again, I'd not have met you, so maybe it is all good. Please...any time, ask me anything you like. Keep up the good stuff;  Chzz  ► 06:38, 8 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Heya. I'm going to consider this one 'resolved' as far as my input is concerned, for now; looks like you've done a great job on the article. If you ever do need me, you know where to find me. Cheers,  Chzz  ► 01:00, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Manway
I posted a question for you on the Joseph Jett discussion page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.26.207.92 (talk) 12:41, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Brent Girouex
FYI - I reversed your edit to the article. You removed a AfD. In addition, the article is not an attack page - it is supported by news articles.  ttonyb (talk) 06:36, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

It is an attack page. The person in question has not been convicted. -- Man way  06:52, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Manway, I've looked at the page in question and this isn't what we usually mean by an attack page. This seems to be written neutrally and not just to disparage the subject.  Still, in most cases I would err on the side of deleting the article, however, this incident has been reported on internationally so a run through AfD is probably a good idea.  Personally I would think there's at least good case for making this about the incident and media coverage rather than a biography if the person isn't notable outside of this event. Shell   babelfish 08:06, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

User:Parasyuva
Under my knowledge, CSDs do not apply to user pages. This says that extremely offensive information can be removed on sight by any editor. Under the belief that the list counted as extremely offensive, I have removed the self promotion. 43?9enter (talk) 07:16, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * This is incorrect. While CSD tags in the "A" range don't apply to userpages, the "U" and "G" range (which unambiguous advertising falls under) can be placed on pages in userspace. (Sorry, felt the need to correct after placing the below notice.)  elektrik SHOOS  07:26, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Regarding your recent speedy tag
Hi Manway. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Rala, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, under criterion A1 because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion.  elektrik SHOOS  07:21, 26 March 2011 (UTC)