User talk:Mapsax/Archive 1

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 * Second that welcome. Try to remember the ~&#126;; it makes comments much easier to identify. Thanks, TheJabberwock 23:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia! Is this Marc per chance?  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 00:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yup. My profile should have a URL that looks familiar.  :)  And note that I've been editing for just under a year now.  (Sherman, I assume....) Mapsax 00:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes. Your expertise is greatly needed at WP:OHSH. And no, I didn't notice you have been here for a while, but a welcome is still a welcome :)  Seicer  (talk) (contribs) 01:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

WP:OHSH
Welcome aboard! Homefryes Say•Do 10:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Lake County, Ohio Township Template
I fixed it as per your comments. To edit any template, you just need to put "Template:" in front of the name in the double brackets, i.e the wikilink is Template:Townships in Lake County, Ohio. I am slowly going through and making Ohio county nav boxes that list all divisions of each county: cities, villages, townships, census-designated places and other unincorporated communities. See Summit County, Ohio or Hancock County, Ohio. The nav box then goes on every municipality page in that county. Once I get all the Ohio counties with Township only templates set up with true county navboxes, I am going to nominate all of the Ohio Township only templates for deletion, as I am not sure what puprose they serve. Thanks for the tip, Ruhrfisch 20:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

PS I put this here and on the Lake County, Ohio Talk page as I was not sure if you were watching it. Harlan Ellison is from Painesville and sometimes spells it "Painsville" on purpose. Ruhrfisch 20:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks - I was almost at the point of figuring out the editing when I stopped! I figured though that since templates need to go through a process to be accepted that I might as well just let the creator or another user with more experience with it edit it. Mapsax 21:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Hampton Roads Beltway
I responded to you on Talk:Hampton Roads Beltway. --NE2 01:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:USRD Newsletter Issue 1

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RE: Miller Park series comments
I read it, and I found a problem in the first sentence: "I wanted to put something in the description about the CLE/LAA series in Miller Park showing how significant the lake-effect snow event was since Jacobs Field has had snow in the past, both at the beginning of the season and near the end (e.g. the '97 World Series Game 4), but has never caused anything that extreme as the series relocation, especially since Cleveland doesn't get much lake-effect relative to the snow belt to the east, making it unusual as well as extreme"... okay, that was long. Basically, the problem was this: "I wanted to put something in the description about the CLE/LAA series in Miller Park showing how significant the lake-effect snow event was since Jacobs Field has had snow in the past."

I don't feel that any more information needs to be included. And even if it did, shouldn't that information go in the Jacobs Field article?

And why is what's already on the article not good enough? That's all the information we need to include. What is wrong with this? Please reply back on my talk page. --Ksy92003 22:11, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I stopped about half-way. That thing was long.  And I didn't need the whole thing to make another point.  If somebody were really interested about lake-effect snow or whatever you called it, or if they wanted to know about the weather and climate in Cleveland, Ohio, do you really think that they would first look at an article for a baseball team's 2007 season?  I don't think so; that's why I don't feel it belongs here.


 * From a baseball standpoint, just knowing that a game, rather an entire series, was postponed because of "heavy snow", that would give the reader a visual as to how heavy it was. The reader would know that it would've had to have been a tremendous amount of snow to cancel a 4-game baseball series.  If they wouldn't know that, then they wouldn't look at the article in question in the first place.  Do you understand what I mean?  --Ksy92003 23:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * You know what? What you did was such an obvious solution to the debate that we had that I never even thought of it.  That works out really nicely.  Thanks for the compromise.  --Ksy92003 21:13, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

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An important letter
Dear roads editor,

You may have noticed some changes at WP:USRD lately. Some of them, like the cleanup templates and the stub templates, have been astounding and great. Unfortunately, others have been disturbing.

This has become evidenced by the departure of a few prominent editors at USRD, a few RFC's, and much fighting among USRD editors.

After the second RFC, many of us found the opportunity to take a step away from Wikipedia for a while--as a self-imposed wikibreak, or possibly on vacation.

The result of such introspection was that many of us were placing ourselves in a "walled garden" and on a self-imposed pedestal of authority over the roads department. Also, we were being hostile to a few users who were not agreeing with us.

In fact, IRC has been the main incarnation of this "walled garden." Decisions have been made there to conduct grudges and prejudices against a few valued USRD users with poor justification.

For this, we have come to apologize. We have come to ask your forgiveness.

In addition to this, we hope to work as one USRD team from now on and to encourage cooperation instead of the promotion of interests.

All users are welcome to collaborate on IRC, the newsletter, or anywhere else at USRD.

In the future, please feel free to approach us about any issues you may have.

Regards,

Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
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USRD Inactivity check and news report
Hello, Mapsax. We had a few urgent matters to communicate to you:
 * 1) Please update your information at WikiProject U.S. Roads/Participants, our new centralized participant list. Those who have not done so by October 20th will be removed.
 * 2) There are important discussions taking place at WT:USRD relating to whether WP:USRD, WP:HWY, or the state projects should hold the "power" in the roads projects.

Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 23:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Melon heads
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U.S. Roads Newsletter, Issue 1

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AfD nomination of Channelization (roads)
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Aux/Bannered/Special U.S. Routes
Please desist moving/editing pages on this subject for now. Discussion is taking place on Talk:Auxiliary U.S. Route that points towards auxiliary being a neologism in this context as well. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 23:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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M-63 edit
sorry, I didn't realize you named it that way. It's just a pet peeve of mine since the highways are "properly" just M-63 to cringe when I see MI-63 or it spelled out like that. Sorry I edited that page that way so automatically.


 * 'Salright. I hope I didn't seem too short with my revert; I didn't see the ":-)" in your comment until afterward.
 * If you notice, many newspapers by design (style guides, etc.) call state routes "[full state name] xx" - regarding the area of M-63, the South Bend Tribune and The Herald-Palladium both do - the Tribune likely to keep confusion down because it serves two states, but the latter also does it - note the title of one of the articles which I just put as a reference. I titled the subsection of my page like that both due to that practice and to the fact that site visitors might be outside the region and not used to "M-xx".  Note, though, that it's "M-63" elsewhere, even on the top-of-page anchor link to that section.  On the contrary, if you go back through the newsgroup misc.transport.road, you can see me defending the "M-xx" nomenclature, and as recently as yesterday, I did an MI 63 -> M-63 edit.  :)

Btw, anything you can add to St. Joseph Valley Parkway from the IN side of things would be greatly appreciated! Imzadi1979 (talk) 02:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Already have :) Mapsax (talk) 18:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 4
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Autoblock
Thanks Mapsax (talk) 21:33, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 5
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Is there a more proper ref?
I'm not a road geek, so I'm unclear on that, but is there no article on that road? My thing is bridges, and that bridge kicks butt!! Very nice indeed. - Denimadept (talk) 18:16, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I see you've answered. - Denimadept (talk) 18:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That's all right, it's confusing - a road named "State Road" is on the county highway system, two separate ones actually (but further north, this State Road is on the state system, carrying a short section of Ohio State Route 84). Follow? ;-) Mapsax (talk) 18:24, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not really, but I don't need to: that's your thing, and you know how it works. I'm sure it makes sense to those who set it up; they tend to have their reasons.  I just try to keep the bridge articles straight. :-)  - Denimadept (talk) 18:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

USRD Newsletter, Issue 6 (FINAL ISSUE)

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An invitation to join WikiProject Ohio
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A contest you may be interested in
Hello, Mapsax. There is a new contest for U.S. and Canada roads that you may be interested in. To sign up or for more information, please visit User:Rschen7754/USRDCRWPCup. The contest begins Saturday at 00:00 UTC. Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 01:32, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Little Mountain (Ohio)
I just reviewed Citing_sources and found

"Over-reliance on general referencing in an article may lead to that article being tagged with the tag. ['inline' redirects to 'nofootnotes']"

I don't think that I'm being over-reliant, because the article at this point is three short paragraphs, and even its main source isn't very long. Anything in the article can be verified easily without footnotes (besides those already there), at least for now. Right now, the "nofootnotes"/"inline" tag seems unnecessary. Mapsax (talk) 23:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The how is the reader supposed to be able to know where the elevation stats come from or what cites who the "frequent visitors" were? When an article is at this size is the perfect time to use inline throughout. That way when more information is added, and I want to know what goes back to the frequent visitors comment I don't have to dig through the history. Generally, as I see it, blanket ref sections should only be used if citing multiple pages of different books. The sources section would have the book info and then a notes section would utilize footnotes stating what pages/book the info came from in an abbreviated manner. I would rather tag the article and have the issue fixed then come back in a year, see an expanded article, and the same comments still unreffed. §hep  • Talk  00:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I will be watching this article closely, as I do with all of the articles that I created (there aren't that many so far; see my user page), so mixing up attributions or introducing ambiguity probably won't be an issue. In any case, it's not that big of a problem to add the inline cites, so I will. (I do appreciate foresight, by the way.) Mapsax (talk) 18:54, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * If you ever need any help with the article let me know. §hep  • Talk  21:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Town
It's simply that, with settlement articles, we seek to use the most precise language possible. Perhaps you know (especially if your Indiana roads interest is from travelling in Indiana) that some states, including Indiana, have municipalities called "towns", but there are legally no towns in Ohio. Because "town" often conveys a sort of municipality, while "community" has no such connotation, it's best not to use "town" in an Ohio context. Nyttend (talk) 01:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's nice to see that you're an accomplished vocalist and reed blower.
 * I share your interests in music, although my preferences are in different areas.
 * You may wish to check three recent notes on other pages. Last night I posted a note on the talk page of Nyttend, seeking to help your position.  He answered on my talk page.  This morning I added several more thoughts on his talk page.
 * I agree with your freedom to use your own "author's voice", including the word "town", even while referring to a settled area in Ohio.
 * Best wishes, Doc. DocRushing (talk) 16:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Roger. Thanks.  Doc.  DocRushing (talk) 23:05, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not just Ohio; precision on types of communities is standard nationwide. Thanks for the reply!  Nyttend (talk) 23:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Concord Township
Do you mean that http://www.concordtwp.com/schools.htm is a live link? Every time I click it, I get a "This page cannot be found" message. Moreover, whatever you do with the schools, please leave the infobox alone. Nyttend (talk) 19:38, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No. The link in Riverside Local School District to the News-Herald article is live and mentions the change about halfway down. And I haven't done anything with the info box. Mapsax (talk) 19:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * There's no good reason to bold the redirects, either. Michigan townships are done differently from townships in all other states, so their format really isn't a good basis for other states' townships.  As far as Concords — you might as well simply list five entries: one for each community and one for the township page.  According to the GNIS entries for the four, none of them are incorporated.  Are you planning to create articles on any of them?  If so, tell me and I'll do what I can to help expand them.  Nyttend (talk) 19:50, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If you spend a bunch of time looking around, you'll notice that most Western Reserve townships have redirects for their names if the community at the center doesn't have a separate article; not sure why (perhaps it's the result of the more New-Englandish culture of the Western Reserve?), but I'd guess that people in the area often refer to their townships without calling them "Township". Is this true?  If you don't know, perhaps you could ask JeffBillman or JonRidinger, both of whom I believe are Portage County residents.  Nyttend (talk) 19:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * No, sorry: I meant that articles on Michigan townships are formatted differently from townships in all other states. Thanks for the input on the names.  Nyttend (talk) 21:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

The first Wikipedian meetup in Ohio
Thanks! --Rkitko (talk) 21:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Ohio Turnpike June 2009
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Be careful
On a recent talk page discussion (intentionally not linked) you have possibly given the real-life name of a wikipedian who used an anonymous username. I don't believe for a minute you had bad intentions. It may not even be an issue, as this user may or may not have disclosed their identity on wikipedia (I don't know this user or much about them. I cannot confirm or deny that that is their real identity, just reporting what I see). However, nonetheless, you should probably confirm weather this was a violation of policy at WP:OUTING, and if so, request that this edit be deleted from view, as this is a blockable offense. The process to do this is at WP:Oversight. Cheers Dave (talk) 18:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't know to what you're referring; I just reviewed the five discussion pages to which I've contributed since the beginning of November (seems to fit the definition of "recent"), and I don't refer to anyone in any manner, real or username. Please elaborate, by e-mail if necessary. Mapsax (talk) 23:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of that. I honestly don't know if it was an issue or not, clearly this user disclosed their identity in other forums. I was just being cautious. Thanks again, and have a merry Christmas. Dave (talk) 17:46, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

From Talk:Double Down
This page should be unprotected and redirect to Double Down (KFC) should be created. Mapsax (talk) 22:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * There is already a disambig page at Double down, at most it should be redirected to that one instead. Typing Double Down in the search box or thru the search plugin will automatically take you to Double down so I'd say it's unnecessary. Btw, deleted the talk page.  Snowolf How can I help? 13:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

April 2010 USRD newsletter

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M-139
The table formatting issue wasn't confined to just that article. Actually, it was an issue with all single-county highways. I was editing the template that created the table headers to update the M-108 article, and the change borked all tables that were similar to the M-139 table. I realized that it was a template error when I couldn't find an error in the template code, nor a version of the table in the history that wasn't screwed up. Mea culpa, but all fixed now. Thanks for your edits.  Imzadi  1979   →   00:18, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Summer 2010 USRD newsletter

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Seventeen drivable bridges?
As I recall, one of the covered bridges has been moved to a lawn and put up on blocks. It's not drivable. I forget if I posted pictures of it. - Denimadept (talk) 21:48, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * "Drivable" was already there; I just added one to the number. If you find info that supports the number being revised, then change it (just remember that the stat shows up in multiple articles). Mapsax (talk) 21:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Looks like they've added a new bridge, so we're up to 17. Some of the articles say 16, though.  They need to be updated. - Denimadept (talk) 23:33, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * But then, you knew that. :-D - Denimadept (talk) 23:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

West Liberty Covered Bridge
Thanks for the note; please see my comment on the talk page. Nyttend (talk) 01:31, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder; I hadn't noticed your comment at the bridge's talk page. Nyttend (talk) 00:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Fall 2010 USRD newsletter

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Winter 2010 USRD newsletter


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3rd Party Review on Fairport Harbor, Ohio
Hi! I was asked to review the section on the Gas incident, and I have posted my conclusion at Talk:Fairport Harbor, Ohio. As I explain in the conclusion that it is not final, and I would suggest that if you disagree with it, RFC might be a possible way to go. Stephen! Coming... 17:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter, Spring 2011

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Click and Clack of Car Talk
On a recent episode of the show (October 8, 2011, I believe, and these are available as podcasts), the brothers, when asked, would not say which one was Click and which one was Clack. I knew I had seen here which one was which. But this was only true under Clack. And I realized this was Wikipedia and it could be wrong. If you can prove otherwise I'd sure like to know. Vchimpanzee ·  talk  ·  contributions  · 16:33, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

U.S. Roads Wikiproject Newsletter, Fall 2011

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