User talk:Maragm/Archive 2

Spanish names in the Portuguese counts

 * Remember that linguistic issues in Spain are meaningless in Portugal. As such, no one has problems with Spanish. The issue here is that those spanish names are inappropriate and add confusion. Even I, that read a lot about that. I'm unable to identify most counts! Even if some were counts in Galicia, alien Castillian names should not prevail. Use Portuguese, Galician or, in dispute, Latin!--Pedro (talk) 17:24, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

es:Andrés de San Víctor
If you have a moment, could you take a look at this Spanish article (translation of sorts) that I created? Demasiado tiempo ha pasado desde que tuviera que escribir en español.

You are right about Arias Pérez. Barton, p. 278, says Mayor died shortly after 6 January 1129. It is Fletcher who places the countess's funeral in 1128. Given all the evidence, I don't think it's OR to favour the one cited source over the other. Srnec (talk) 03:46, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Votación sobre mapas
Buenas, compañero.

Te solicito que votes en la discusión de los artículos de Basque Country (autonomous community) y Valencian Community para elegir el mapa localizador de ambas comunidades autónomas, apoyando el tipo standar para todas las regiones del país. Algunos usuarios nacionalistas o abiertamente independentistas quieren añadir un mapa sesgado en el que no aparece todo el país (en el caso de Euskadi) o que aparece como si fuese una nación de la Unión Europea (en el caso de la Comunidad Valenciana). Esto es inadmisible.

Te pido que añadas "support" y tu firma en la opción Satesclop's red map. Mil gracias por adelantado. Satesclop 03:00, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Mariño Family
Buenos días Maragm, otra vez Usted? Cuénteme, ahora cuál es el problema con la página? Todo está bien referenciado acorde a wikipedia. Cuénteme, cuál es su problema conmigo o con mi trabajo? ... Oiga, viva feliz y deje vivir. Vale? ... Cada cosa se encuentra muy bien referenciada. Por favor déjeme en paz. Ésto ya se volvió un tema aburrido. Cuénteme, qué quiere que ponga, una referencia diferente? algo que no es? Ya Maragm, pare el saboteo.

--Siredejoinville (talk) 14:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

About Marquisate of Santa Rosa
Hola Maragm, la verdad no entiendo tu insistencia. Sabes algo de la historia de Colombia? de la Nueva granada? El problema es que yo si. Tu no puedes decir que el artículo ea ficción y borrarlo todo de buena a primera por que sí. Quizás las fuentes originales para wikipedia no sean buenas, la pegunta es, si las fuentes originales no lo son, cuáles son?. Que pretendas eliminar sin conocer algo, eso es un abuso. Por ello te invito a dejar el artículo como estaba. Al borrar el nombre de Don orge Reinaldo Ruiz dde Borja-Haro Mariño de Lobeira y Trastamara Aragón, realmente etá haciendo un gran favor. Por favor déjeme en paz.

--Siredejoinville (talk) 22:24, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Hola Margram
Hola Margram / Hello Margram Deseo solicitarte un inmenso favor. No intervengas más conmigo ni me molestes vale? De la misma forma que yo no intervengo contígo y no veo la necesidad de intervener en nada tuyo, por favor, deja de molestarme. Ya, es suficiente, ya son tres años o más de tu insistencia. Vale?

I wish ask you a favor. Don´t interfere with me nor disturbing me more, ok? In same way I don´t interfere with you and I don´t see any need to inferfere with nothing of you, please, leave me in peace. It´s enough, It´s three years or more ago you insist. No more, ok?

Thank you. --Siredejoinville (talk) 18:42, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I shall continue to insist that you do not fabricate genealogies, false titles, as the ones you just added again in this article. The articles on those titles were deleted recently since no one was able to find any references. Can you prove, with reliable sources, that they existed?--Maragm (talk) 19:09, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Margram, please, leave of disturbing. You don´t understand me? La verdad no entiendo porqué la agarró conmigo. Por favor, una vez más le solicito, absténgase de molestar, la página se encuentra bien referenciada y recadtada. Yo no estoy fabricando genealogies, quien las está fabricando es Ud. .... Ud. no puede descalificar las referencias por que a Ud. le venga el gusto. Genealogias de ortegal es un sitio laureado y si Ud. tiene problemas con ellos, no es conmigo con quien debe desquitarse. Por favor, por el bien de estar en paz deje de molestar. Vuelvo y le repito, Ud. lleva exactamente 5 años molestandoma por el gusto de molestar, deje de hacerlo; en verdad, no es de I interés una persona como Ud. cada día se hace Ud. Más desagradable.


 * Siredejoinville I am not trying to disturb you. What I am trying to do, without much success, I'm afraid, is to make you understand that wikipedia is not a personal gen site where you can add original research or information that is not properly referenced. I know that Xenealoxias do Ortegal is a pretty reliable page, in fact, the genealogy that they propose for the Mariño, as shown here, has nothing to do with the information and reference you added and which Bgwhite removed. There is no mention in that page that the Mariños descend from Fernando Pérez de Traba and, as I explained in the talk page of Francisco Mariño y Soler, it is chronologically impossible that Fernando, who died in 1151, could have had a grandson who lived 150 years later (the one who in 1300 sold properties to his brother). Can you understand that that is impossible or are you just so blind and full of yourself and of your presumptive ancestors that you accept such folly? --Maragm (talk) 13:08, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello Margram. I´m thankfull by all of 5 years of effort interference but really all this had been tired. I am creating a good page from a real person who did so much for these countries. When I created Mariño Family you damage it, when I created pages about other things you damages too. Please I don´t need your interference or help how you wish called. Now, for you all sources aren´t valids, when I put the PARES file you said that it doesn´t is real. When I put Florez de Ocariz same thing, when I put Lucas Piedrahita neither serves. That demonstrate your ignorance in so much things. Respect to xenealogias de Ortegal, fortunately that is a good page with real references and based in real things; it´s true, there fault many things but that not mean Xenealogia de Ortegal be false. Don Jerónimo Mariño de Lobeira y Sotomayor was a real person with speciphic charges and borning in Pontevedra inside Mariño lineage and that is real. The Mariño family is a very ancient noble lineage like is certified by Cartularios of Toxos Outxos. It´s real Mariño family is related with most important lineages of Spain and that you can not change even you insist. Mrs. González and Breogan an all of you, please stop. Wikipedia is a free enciclopedy and that mean I can create information and I have been that under real dates and references and information. When I put about Juan de Borja y Matheus, all of you attack me, all by personal interest but is real I was saying. That one person wants change all in pursuit of a personal interest is other thing.

Ignacio Mariño y Torres was brother of Francisco Mariño y soler and these were cousins of Santiago Mariño and these is real so why dou you pretend damage all without bases and knowing of cause?. about House od Traba? yes, Mariño Family begin with a Galician legend but that no mean it had a real origin. Mariño Family was heir of Traba lineage and that is not happened by coincidence. You are of all those want denied and the history, me not. .... About Juana de Castro? Yes, she existed and she appear in many sources and she was wife of Payo Mariño de Lobeira and that is in many sources too. ...... You can´t go said that sources are valids or not because your owm convenience and interest.

For all of that, for 5 years of disturbing me, please, no more, don´t interfere more and that I say by all of you. No one pay all of you by disturbingme and I don´t wany any relation with all of yours, just leave me in peace.

--Siredejoinville (talk) 17:33, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

July 2016
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Ferdinand I of Leon
you should not delete all the translation with the intention of fixing it later. First, because you can replace the translation arranged two months later or maybe within two years, and second because anyone, and not only you, can arrange translation. so just you should not take the initiative. I will revert your decision, waiting for someone wishes to improve the translation, anyone with a native level in English can improve it because it can understand--Vvven (talk) 18:19, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll put references early posting by others who contributed. but give me time, a short time--Vvven (talk) 18:27, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

it I see it as as a summary of several events, and neither see long when compared to other articles of the same indoen on the rest of Europe, I will return references and continue translating. It is what I can do. anyone else going to visit, administrator, amateur, interested, specialist or native English can is their right to pass to correct grammatical errors and sentences, and so is made as quickly and contribution as possible--Vvven (talk) 18:36, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Perfect was neither is, if so had a "golden star". and just some translating, and i saw, it was very incomplete. also it had enough paragraphs difficult to understand, with sentences that look like did not read the formerly and over putting them. after this article, I will continue to improve other Iberian medieval kings's articles, adding new sections not mentioned, instead of trying to discredit me and insult my work deliberately, for a few errors, which in many articles I've been doing Users to have arranged,  or thank me several administrators/users, you might as well help improve it--Vvven (talk) 18:50, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Now are added the references and relevant information that i deleted (along with the information and references that I add). Arranged. And I will continue expanding or adding other important other sections.--Vvven (talk) 19:41, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You can report me as you want, I think I'm right, I'm just improving and developing the article... I included all the old article, adding new important information, references and new images related. I have not reverted anything--Vvven (talk) 20:00, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
 * and I will make time to do the same with other articles of iberian kings that are now very incomplete, even some of them yet a stub--Vvven (talk) 20:17, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

thanks man, and you will see how it will end in very good shape the article, more complete and that the reader can find out everything that was and everything now is discussed, including contemporary images--Vvven (talk) 00:55, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

I must say that I will also do this with the rest of articles, and I hope you help a so better and complete articles--Vvven (talk) 00:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Go ahead, I will simply revert. I'm not here to waste my time fixing your messes and your lousy English. --Maragm (talk) 01:05, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

On Jule 2016 my English skills improve a 99 % of its perfection. Now i can say I'm comeback ;) --Vvven (talk) 22:16, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

There are some articles i translated from other wikis, not all, but Thanks, i'll include all sources including the other wikis. Have a good day --Vvven (talk) 17:13, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Tell me honey can i now expand some monarchs's articles, and related, because are too shorts, not as should to be that topic's articles, and besides do not have images contemporaries of their times, but artists's imaginary from centuries later, not best images for that, a more contemporary image has significance besides are closer to real. Please look to my translations, that on my user's page articles marked with nc (nice). Look please i want to, for larger, more images, and you'll watching, and i most, to be you changing just a few. Check my High Quality images, all very well-sources, with right dates, as most as it is possible found on internet. i now uploading a whole British book on drawings of locations in the Spain of early-19th century--Vvven (talk) 04:31, 23 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Vvven, first of all, do not ever call me or any other female Wikepedian "honey". That is condescending and "machista". Secondly, the note you wrote above is full of grammatical errors. Your English is not good enough and you should not be editing in en.wiki. I would say that all of the articles you created are not in proper English and either you fix them or someone else will have to waste their time in doing so, and it's not going to be me. Rather than tackling the translation of articles on Iberian monarchs,  you should correct all the articles you created and also add the translation template since you have not done so, only in a couple after I mentioned that it was mandatory for licensing purposes, for example, Castle of Burgos. Should you continue to insist on mis-translating,  I will have no other choice than reporting you again as I did earlier this month. --Maragm (talk) 11:28, 23 July 2016 (UTC) Would appreciate if Black Kite chimes in and gives his opinion. --Maragm (talk) 11:41, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I truly really sorry if you felt offend, i just say you like a pretty because firstof all youre a lady i want you show aprreciate, always in my life im against with machism, that empathy and love to female's rights is part of me. second, i just try to better the articles at most, and each time fixing, is not matter of just one edit, or one month. you saw that each time i do it with all my articles created, my english is not too bad, but also is not too good, but in a mearly future, idk, maybe 2 or 3 months will be better and the articles develoved by me these articles on my userpage will be more spelling and more developed, better. i don't know where you say on castle of burgos there some a violation. Some Castle of Burgos images came from a book of 500 years old, almost all imeges of 100 years old and more has right to shows in wikipedia. the rest of aarticle is just a translation from es.wiki. there many people with less English skills than me and people dont threats them to get out from wiki, or say to them that dont write in wiki. Of one or another way i'm helping--Vvven (talk) 15:32, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, apologies accepted. Vvven, I don't want to hurt your feelings or discourage you. Re Castle of Burgos, I'm not talking about the image; I'm talking about the fact that you translated it from es.wiki and you don't indicate this. You have to put that translation template in ALL the articles you translated. Most of those articles have to be checked and corrected. So please, do not start with the Iberian monarchs since this would only mean more articles that would have to be fixed. --Maragm (talk) 15:42, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

In my real life the female rights i fell it so much, and defend if you would know because the women is more intelligent and perfect, and i'man but with life i knew that. With that articles translates from es.wiki and other external references, i will each more adding better references and try each more on be my understandtable, following the patterns of English grammar, is all i can do in the but i not i can do in a future--Vvven (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

ill try to fix better the artciles in few time, after that i add the template indicating the translate from es.wiki, because yet are not traductions, now some of them are a mess, but i wll fix a better--Vvven (talk) 19:27, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

It's back...
Look at the recent edits of Valladares. I wonder if its back. Bgwhite (talk) 05:06, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Bgwhite, I just cleaned up similar text in es.wiki by a user who goes has that last name (the same who edited the article here). I don't think it's the same user that we both might have suspected since I don't remember that he ever mentioned having that last name. Thanks for pointing it out.--Maragm (talk) 06:35, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Monastery
Hi, i just based on official page and other wellsources, and start to translate, i think i had a comprehensible english, i will revert but leave the date as it was the article. is just few changes in spelling that has to be make. anybody can finnish to fix it. i amnot adding any of i invent or something.--Vvven (talk) 19:50, 2 August 2016 (UTC) i will revert,ok and fix the date. thanks--Vvven (talk) 19:50, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, good friend, but its possible that you let expand an article more than 15 or 20 lines, i mean wikipedia i think is not a just a note board. is an encyclopedia. sorry for say in that way. its for people have many knowledges but correct. and im not invent anything. thats a just history of a building that can read in mostly pages about this building except in wikipedia. cuz is just a stub. and a stub is just useless. and its probable that when just you want will be ever a stub. can you fix or change something but not revert that all people want add to that stubs. In that article f.e., 5 years not add anything other than correct grammar. A user that 5 years ago added 2 paragraphs. read the article i added important information that now mostly non-spanish people can found, now i will add several good sources that support those--Vvven (talk) 20:03, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Look that states here: "De importancia superior es la relación que en su «España Sagrada» trae el P. Flórez (39). Se trata del primer estudio completo hasta 1772, conducido con sentido ctítico. Establece la fecha de fundación en 1180 —que documentos recientemente hallados han llegado casi a corroborar" source: riubu.ubu.es/bitstream/10259.4/1764/1/0211-8998_n165_p643-659.pdf. pp: 8. here translating says Monastery was founded on 1080, according to an historian from 1772, and recently discovered documents have come almost to corroborate. original sources: "T. 37, Madrid, 1772, págs. 574-614." and "J. González, <<Un arquitecto de las Huelgas de Burgos », en Revista de Archivos Bibliotecas y Museos", t. 3, 1947, págs. 47-50."--Vvven (talk) 20:53, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

But in other sources, states as you says. in 1187, so I leave in 1187. Well also say you thank you for all--Vvven (talk) 15:20, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok sorry, i will try to improve the language --Vvven (talk) 00:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Blanche I of Navarre
She born in Pamplona and was Queen of Navarre. In kingdom of Navarre spoke mainly in Basque, i think this is hired, so why do you revert the Basque name?. has the same credibility her official name as French (Blanche) as the Castilian version (Blanca). --Vvven (talk) 21:07, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Afonso I
That wasn't my edit. There is a new automated process, InternetArchiveBot, which is run by user cyberpower678. It scans articles looking for links to pages that no longer exist but have been saved in the Internet Archive, and either changes the existing link or adds the archive link to it. In this case, the page on dossiers.public.pt no longer exists, but there's a copy of it on archive.org. The copy was made in June 2007. Because Afonso was in my watchlist for other reasons, I took the time to confirm the change by editing the Talk page. David Brooks (talk) 14:07, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Re: Welcome
Thank you so much for your welcome! And for your sympathy :) Nice to hear it, specially from someone with passion and knowledge. I don't feel confident enough about my English to edit articles, but I'll definitely practice it in the talk sections from time to time. Or whenever I need shelter from the Spanish Inquisition. Regards --Sgomag (talk) 15:36, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

Sancha, daughter of Ramiro I of Aragon
Any opinion on the title of this article? Sancha of Aragon is already taken. Her death date is known, so Sancha of Aragon (died 1097) would work. Or do you think the current title fine? Srnec (talk) 04:46, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Srnec Yes, I would opt for your suggestion with the year of her death since the other title is too long. I just looked at the Sanchas de Aragón in es.wiki and there are quite a few...maybe I'll create a disambiguation page there and change a couple of article titles. Will be getting back to the other Sancha (Alfonso VII's sister) since I got sidetracked with other characters. I was also going to mention the image in Fernando Pérez de Traba's article. I always thought the one on the left was Fernando, the one in the middle Urraca of León and the woman on the right Teresa of León, countess of Portugal but reading the article in e.spania revue from where the image was taken (originally the Monastery of Toxos Outos), it is used in that cartulary to illustrate a donation by Fernando's brother, Bermudo, with Teresa in the middle and her daughter Urraca (Bermudo's wife) on the right.--Maragm (talk) 06:58, 21 November 2016 (UTC)


 * What do you think of Sancha Ramírez as a title?
 * I see. This confirms it as well. I suppose we just move the image over to Bermudo's article. Srnec (talk) 03:42, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * SrnecI just requested that the name of the files be changed to the correct names since this is what has led to the confusion since they were erroneously labelled. Re Sancha, I think the title you used is ok...maybe you can create a redirect to Sancha Ramírez, but as it is, I agree with the name. --Maragm (talk) 06:26, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Lévi-Provençal on the Banu Qasi
Back in February you added to Banu Qasi the following: ". Évariste Lévi-Provençal in 1990 was the first to say that “Pamplona, the capital of Vasconia, had not been governed by the Muslims since 798 . . ." There must be some sort of error here, as Lévi-Provençal died in 1956. Not sure what date was intended here, but it can't be 1990. 50.37.98.45 (talk) 00:40, 8 December 2016 (UTC)