User talk:Maral79

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Image:Denial.jpg
''This image has no source information. This means that it has an unknown copyright status. Unless the copyright status is provided and a source is given, the image will be deleted seven days after this template was added.''

Additionaly you should choose a more descriptive and NPOV image name.

-- Cool Cat Talk 17:17, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't see what's wrong with the image name !! The Turkish Government "Deny" the Armenian Genocide, and if you check any dictionary, you'll know what's the meaning of the word... then you'll figure out that it fits the discription of the Turkish Government's position. As for the "Copy right", the image itself have the source URL, so there is no violation to copyright as long as, the source is mentioned. What I don't understand, is why did the image "Hurt" you ?! if you have a NPOV, that image shouldn't "Touch a Nerve" in you, right ?! --Maral79 17:26, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Does the source URL allow the image to be used on wikipedia? Is it GFDL compatible?
 * Interesting. Turkish Goverment's "Facts" suggests that the Armenian Genocide was "fabricated" (I think). That is the POV of the Turkish Gov. Which is fine. Alternatively your (I presume) and Armenian Gov.'s "Facts" suggest this is a "Denial". Which is equaly fine. NPOV would be a middle ground. Denial.jpg is not a NPOV name for an image. Infact Denial.jpg is hardly even descritpitve for an image file name.
 * It did infact touch a Nerve or several hundered.
 * -- Cool Cat Talk 10:05, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Turkeish Gov's POV, say it's not true, fabricated, fine. When someone say that something is not true, then this someone denies that something. Take a look at Oxford Dictionary for example. So, Turkish Gov. (and allow me to add Turkish Gov's Proxies) deny the Armenian Genocide. One more thing, I want to bring your attention to, that is , not only Armenian Gov. and Armenians, and me (you persume) know for fact, that the events of 1915 was Armenian Genocide, but, Almost all, Human Rights Organizations, Holocaust And Genocide Assosiations, 20 or so Countries, and it was all documented in some dozen of Official Archives of Different world countries. And if the name of the pic bother you this much, well what can I do if it reflects the POV of Turkish Gov. --Maral79 11:52, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
 * And we wikipedia editors do not determine which side is lieing and which side is not. I do not care about the topic enough to discuss it with you. I merely am pointing out wikipedia policies.
 * -- Cool Cat Talk 17:20, 2 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Even skeptic ( NPOV as you call it), recognize two POVs. (1) Armenian Claims of Genocide, And (2) Turkish Denial Of Genocide. But if you can't see that as NPOV, then your POV is not NPOV . As simple as that . --Maral79 20:12, 2 November 2005 (UTC)


 * POV by nature cannot be NPOV. A NPOV statement would not intend to touch nerves either. I frankly cannot relate Armenian Genocide to a bevarage so I do not see the point of this image. Furthermore copyright laws still apply. I am being nice to you by talking to you I could have quietly got that image deleted. I will not be a happier person if it gets deleted, all I want is a more descriptive name and proper copyright tag. -- Cool Cat Talk 13:52, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

The issue here is not about the title of the picture. It is an artistic work from an Armenian residing in Israel(at least the last time I had news from him, he was living there), an artistic work by nature is POV. The issue here is about posting a picture without asking the permission from an author. It's as simple as that. Maral, contact him and ask him permission, he'll give it to you. About notability, one of his posters has been the cover of Yair Auron book about denial, so I'd believe that the other poster which was used would be the one that should be uploaded, if anything from the author is uploaded, because it'll be the only notable one. Fadix 04:15, 5 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Correction, seems that the picture making the cover of the book is from another person. Fadix 04:19, 5 November 2005 (UTC)


 * So Fadix, whom shall I ask for permission to publish the "Ottoman History" image, Yervant Herian, or Yair Auron ? And I will ask the permission of "Absolute Denial" image from the author. Thanks for the explanation --Maral79 12:11, 6 November 2005 (UTC)


 * I got the permission of the author, so it fits the Wiki Pix standereds, right ? --Maral79 17:16, 6 November 2005 (UTC)


 * For the Ottoman history image, contact Ruben(the same author you asked permission for the Absolute Denial picture), he'll tell you what to do. Fadix 18:45, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Image Denial.jpg has been listed for deletion
Its up for deletion because I dont see the purpose for it or any need for it. Is there one that I cant see, if so what is it?

-- &#9786; A dam1213&#9786; Talk+| 08:07, 3 November 2005 (UTC)