User talk:Maralia/Archive 10

World Discoverer fixes
I am curious as to what copyrights were in question on my current article on World Discoverer. It shows you made some changes and I was curious what those were. Also am curious if you re-rated the ship under discussion. Please let me know. Lukeduk1980 (talk) 04:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean by copyrights. I copyedited the article, and added a fact tag to two assertions that I found rather unbelievable. In fact, now that I've reread those two sentences, it's clear that they need to be dropped entirely:
 * "The double-hulled construction could withstand impact with glaciers while sustaining very little damage to the ship or crew." - No. A double hull does not render a ship nearly impervious toimpact with a glacier. To be fair, I presume 'iceberg' rather than 'glacier' was intended here, but still...see MS Explorer: a double hull is much safer from an impact point of view, but Very Bad Things can still happen.
 * "The World Discoverer had a 8,000-mile cruising range, allowing the ship to be the first ship to ever transit the Northwest Passage." - The World Discoverer was most certainly not the first ship to ever transit the Northwest Passage; I suspect Roald Amundsen would have something to say about that.
 * I assessed the article at C-class for WP:SHIPS, and Start-class for WP:SHIPWRECKS (the difference is a mere technicality, as the shipwrecks project does not use C-class). In my edit summary, I mentioned that the fact tags need resolution in order for me to up the assessment to B-class for both. I'd be happy to update it once those are resolved. Maralia (talk) 05:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * And I see that in the interim you've undone all my copyediting changes with an edit summary 'Errors in grammer and presentation.'. Care to explain that? Maralia (talk) 05:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Clearing the name from BEWA Discoverer to World Discoverer under ship characteristics, under ship propulsion, misspelled diesel as eiesel, lower cased many of the wording in ship characteristics, other things on there were correct like "Solomon Islands were undergoing civil war and was boarded with equipment taken from the ship." and other things, I will clean this up better. Did not mean to step on any toes. Lukeduk1980 (talk) 05:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I am still implementing many of your changes and they do make more sense. Lukeduk1980 (talk) 05:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * In response to the 4 changes you mentioned above:
 * I did not "change the name from BEWA Discoverer to World Discoverer under ship characteristics";
 * I did mistakenly spell diesel as eiesel;
 * I did properly "lower case many of the wording in ship characteristics" as we do not randomly capitalize words like Passengers and Diesel Engines nor should Cabins be capitalized in the infobox parameter |Ship cabins=; and
 * The sentence "Solomon Islands were undergoing civil war and was boarded with equipment taken from the ship" simply does not make any sense.
 * I'm sorry for making the typo on 'diesel', but...I have been a member of the Ships and Shipwrecks wikiprojects for over two years, and a copyeditor for featured articles for nearly that length of time. I really do know how to do this. Maralia (talk) 05:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I apologize for any upset. If I may ask for learning purposes, why do we lowercase all the characteristics in the ship characteristics box? I figured words could be capitalized. Also, why do we move the shipwreck photo to the reference page from your last change. Also, im trying to find some of my sources my 3 months ago on this project. Needless to say, if I cannot fin them, I will delete them. I do not question your expertise on your editing, however, it would make things alittle easier for me to understand why some of the bigger changes have taken affect. I redid most of your changes, let me know if there is a further issue. I still need to lowercase infomation on ship characteristics. Lukeduk1980 (talk) 07:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. You should of course feel free to ask for the logic behind any of the changes I made; the wholesale reversion made me feel like I had wasted my time, but spending time explaining things is not time wasted :) Regarding capitalization: we use this sparingly on Wikipedia (see WP:MOSCAPS for more info). I moved the shipwreck photo to the References section to avoid sandwiching text between that image and the infobox (see WP:MOSIMAGE for more info). Maralia (talk) 16:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Alright Maralia - I have cleaned up the World Discoverer article and made many of the corrections you installed on the page. In regards to the "sandwiching" of text, I really wanted to use the photo of the Discoverer while in port under the service history heading. I could not bring it to the bottom right or left of the page as it would create large gaps in the article. To get the better of both worlds, I have switched the photos and miminize the photo to pit in place between the text and the ship characteristics but made the photo small so it will not do too much sandwiching. I could not find the source of the first ship to travel the Northwest Passage but it did seem alittle odd to me as I read it now. I have reworded the saysing, "The World Discoverer also had a 8,000 mile cruising range allowing the ship travel the Northwest Passage." I figure this would be ok with you. Also, I have de-capitalized many things in ship characteristics but left Abbreviations, Company Names, Locations like Sandfly Passage since it is a noun because it is a place. I was wondering if you wanted to re-assess the article for a possible higher ranking for the WikiProject: ships assessment scale. If it still does not meet your prefered level, give me some more advice for corrections please. Thank you. Lukeduk1980 (talk) 03:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I have taken a quick look. I'm sorry to say that the article still needs a lot of cleanup for typos, bad grammar, and punctuation errors. You have not implemented many of the prose corrections that I had made before you reverted my edit.
 * "The World Discoverer as she sits on July, 2007" - grammar and punctuation errors; should be "in July 2007"
 * "The ship carried of fleet of inflatable dinghies" - typo; should be "carried a fleet"
 * "the ship conducted cruises near the Southern Hemisphere and visited places like Antarctica, the Falkland Islands, Chile, Ushuaia, Argentina" - logical disconnect; cruises to these places arein the Southern Hemisphere, not near it.
 * "Between the months of June and August, the ship cruised around Alaskan region" - grammar; should be "around the Alaskan region"
 * "The World Discoverer was classified as a Swedish/Finnish 1A Ice class allowing the ship to withstand minor floe impacts" - logical disconnect; being classified as ice class does not allow the ship to withstand this.
 * "There are no reports of any oil, petroleum or other pollutant spills were reported as a result of the impact." - grammar errors; "There are no reports...were reported" makes no sense.
 * "when an annual maintenance work would have been completed" - grammar error; should be "when annual maintenance work"
 * "The Solomon Islands were undergoing civil war and was boarded my locals who took the equipment and other critical devices from the ship." - grammar error and typo; the sentence nonsensically says the "Solomon Islands...was boarded my locals".
 * These are just examples of prose issues—and there are other problems, such as MOS errors (wrong bolding in lead; improper capitalization in section headers; missing hyphens in compound measures; hyphens used instead of endashes in date ranges), wrong information in infobox fields (|Ship country= Expedition Cruise Liner), and a nonexistent category (yet Category:Shipwrecks in the Pacific Ocean exists).
 * I have spent an extraordinary amount of time defending the work I put into this article. I remain completely willing to answer any questions you may have about 'the rules', but it's frustrating to see that even basic grammar fixes I made haven't been implemented. Was it really worth reverting? Maralia (talk) 17:33, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, I will go back to the baord and take care of the mistakes listed and then some. I do appreciate the input, it is taken with an open heart. Lukeduk1980 (talk) 05:07, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Request (well, no harm in asking)
From this page, it's obvious that you're pretty busy so maybe I am asking in vain, but in the past I have found your review comments mighty helpful. So if you can spare a few minutes to look atNansen's Fram Expedition, now at peer review, I'd be very pleased. In hope, Brianboulton (talk) 21:10, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Copyedit request
Hello! John Kourkouas is currently undergoing an A-class review, and I have been advised to seek a copyeditor to look it through and correct various style issues. If you can help, it would be appreciated. Cheers, Constantine  ✍  08:57, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the belated reply. I've just gone through and given this a quick copyedit. I found comparatively little to fix; I see Auntieruth got to it before me :) I left one inline query regarding a very minor issue. Otherwise, it looks good to go. Sorry again for the delay! Maralia (talk) 03:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for going through it! I also adopted your suggestion. Unfortunately, the article failed the ACR, but I'll re-submit it in the future. I have to ask, since you went through the entire article, how did you find it, in terms of comprehensiveness and ease of understanding? If you have any suggestions, they'd be welcome! Cheers and thanks again, Constantine  ✍  17:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Very kind of you, thank you! Maralia (talk) 03:06, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Requesting for a Sacrifice (copyedit)
Hi Maralia. If it is not a bother, do you have time to copyedit the article for the real-time strategy game, Sacrifice? I am planning to take it to FAC, and I would like one not overly-familiar with video games to go over it, checking for phrases that would be unclear to most people, and smooth the clunky sentences that I am sometimes known for. Thank you. Jappalang (talk) 22:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry I didn't get to this sooner. I must admit that I do not qualify as "one not overly-familiar with video games". Not even a little bit :) Nonetheless, I've just copyedited the article. Only one issue that needs work: the first screenshot describes gameplay as third-person, but in the Reception section, another screenshot and a reviewer quote describe gameplay as first-person. I can't tell where the disconnect is, but I'm sure you can. Maralia (talk) 22:00, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for taking a look and applying a dash of your red pen. I will check those two images out.  Jappalang (talk) 00:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Ketogenic diet
Thanks for your copy editing. I like your user page description: "meticulous when it comes to grammar, verifiability of content, and adherence to formatting standards". My grammar skills aren't wonderful but I try my best on the other two aspects. Wrt this comment, in addition to explaining things a bit more, do you think it would be interesting to say more on worldwide differences due to culture, religion and practicalities? Perhaps a "Cultural differences" subsection of "Variants"?Colin°Talk 19:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I should really rewrite that sentence; I've long since realized the futility of aiming for "adherence" to something as unstable and disputed as our formatting standards. I'm surprised to realize that this may be the first time we've run into each other directly—I copyedit a lot of medical articles (especially at FAC) and frequently come across your name on my watchlist. Nice to 'meet' you, in any case. I'm working on some comments for the PR now. I would be interested to see what variations result from cultural/logistical differences, if there is sufficient information available to flesh out such a section. Maralia (talk) 20:59, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I've addressed all your comments as best I can for now. I've still got plenty other suggestions to work on. I've added a new section on worldwide variations. Thank-you very much for your comments, which have improved the article. Colin°Talk 19:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for fixing my rookie error. WhatamIdoing (talk) 06:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

study, Alzheimer's
Thank you for your improvement to my edit here. I have gone ahead and used your exact wording here. Your wording is far better than mine, more accurate etc. Please make any further changes to this most recent edit of mine if you think they are called for. Thank you. Bus stop (talk) 16:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Mr Brunel
Still working?  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket! ) 01:58, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The issue was your prgoress schedule on the article rather than a stalemate on the part of the reviewers  YellowMonkey  ( bananabucket ) (help the Invincibles Featured topic drive) 01:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Parkinson's Disease
Thanks for your feedback. I took your suggestion and started to develop an entry for the Parkinson's Disease Foundation.

While I agree that I may not have posted it using the proper guidelines, I do believe some of the information I posted on the Parkinson's Disease page was appropriate. I have seen other disease-related entries that reference organizations that fund research and advocate on behalf of the condition. Also, the information about finding clinical trials seemed to fit, considering the previous sections on treatment and research directions. Perhaps creating new sections the way I did was not the way to go. Do you have any suggestions for how some of this information could be included in a way that's appropriate?

Thanks.

GF Revunami (talk) 04:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)GF Revunami


 * It may be appropriate to include a small amount of information about PDF at the PD article. A good model would be the 'Support organizations' section of the Huntington's disease article. (If you are familiar with other PD groups, it would be great if you could provide some insight as to which should be included, too.)
 * I took a quick glance at Parkinson's Disease Foundation. A few comments:
 * Link to the PD article in the intro sentence.
 * Add some categories (see Huntington's Disease Society of America for some ideas)
 * Add an infobox (see American Cancer Society for an example)
 * Thanks for your work. Maralia (talk) 22:05, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you again for your feedback and direction. I incorporated your suggestions into the Parkinson's Disease Foundation page, and they certainly improved it.  I also just made another attempt at editing Parkinson's Disease.  As you suggested, I followed the Huntington's Disease model and created a section about Research and Support Organizations, which provides historical background and cites a number of references.  I also moved information about other organizations that resided elsewhere on the page to that section.


 * Would you mind taking a look and seeing if my changes are appropriate? If you see any part of what I added that you feel needs editing, feel free.  However, I think I managed to do it in a way that should avoid deletion.  Thank you again.  GF Revunami (talk) 00:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)GF Revunami

FAR
Holy toledo, FAR has gotten really sloppy without you and me there ... I've only reviewed the bottom five, and I'm finding a wreck. Poor Yellowmonkey! Sandy Georgia (Talk) 18:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

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Ping
Hey, Maralia, I sure do miss crossing paths more often! Wanted to be sure you saw this. Best, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 15:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks; glad to see that he is taking the issue seriously. As regards User talk:Marskell, I need to get back into the habit of doing more FAR reviews. Since it seems that you and I are the only ones doing MOS reviews with any regularity there, I wonder if we could coordinate our FAR reviews somehow. This would help me avoid my biggest timesink/distraction at FAR (poring over individual FARs to look for any MOS reviews before reading the actual articles), and might save you the same effort. Maybe a simple alphabetical split by article name, if you think there's any merit to this approach? Maralia (talk) 20:35, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * But I don't do a MOS check until I see editors working on the article, trying to save it ... otherwise, they usually have bigger problems. How would we divvy that?  I'm more concerned about big picture items, like when to suggest a revert, FARs that get way off track, FARs that have a lot of Keep support by no image review, source review, MOS review -- I'm worried that we have to watch for things like that.  Best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 22:13, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * True enough, and to be honest, I hadn't noticed that the list had gotten so short, so maybe it's no big deal nowadays. When the list and/or individual FARs get lengthy, I tend to either (a) get overwhelmed and run away to hide or (b) get so distracted reading FAR comments that I never make it to the article. In fact, those are pretty accurate descriptions of why I don't get as much done as I'd like to anywhere; time to downsize my watchlist :)
 * On an unrelated note: I've just discovered that a new MilHist contest, which I've known about for some time, now offers points for 'substantially' reviewing articles at FAC. I know better than to try to compose my thoughts on this into a post at 1 o'clock in the morning; do you feel inclined? Maralia(talk) 05:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * My father gets here today for a week visit, I have to promote and get to the airport today, so I probably won't have a chance to look ... if no one else gets to it, will you remind me sometime? Best, Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 12:55, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Service is needed in layaway
You are good at these sorts of things. Wha`d`ya think about the current discussion at WT:NC-SHIP? Specifically #Charles de Gaulleand #Proposed amendment/example. Thanks, — Kralizec! (talk) 16:01, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

November 2009
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, such as this one to Attack on Pearl Harbor. Your edits constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Rorschach Now cut that out! 18:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what happens after a night spent working on my css :D Maralia (talk) 18:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
And thank you very much for trying! In fact, efforts of that kind are exactly what we've had to go by, since none of us are able to view the full text. That one is particularly frustrating. :/ Usually, what I've done in working that clean up is just verify that there are enough such fragments to leave no doubt that substantial text is duplicated. (See my notes at Talk:Battle_of_Glentaisie for example). When I've done that, I've blanked the article with the copyvio in this way to give contributors a chance to rewrite. If they do, great. If not, well, the admins who close CP listings (of which I am one) have typically had to do it. :)

If you want to contribute further, you are very welcome to do so. We appreciate all the help we can get! :D --Moonriddengirl (talk)15:39, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

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MilHist chevron: thanks!
Oh, it's a delight to receive that. Thank you indeed, Maralia. Tony  (talk)  07:39, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Zelda the writer/ Zelda the Turkey
Dear Maralia, I do not know how you can write off the bird as trivia when it has its own wikipage. Both the page and the sources (if you follow them) mention Zelda whom you call only "Fizgerald" (in the notes to your edit).

Perhaps I agree that the bird does not belong in legacy and should be placed in a new category of pop culture.

Think of how many tourists who come to NYC and pass Battery Park and are told the story of Zelda Fitzgerald in tandem with the mention of this bird. This is part of how knowledge grows through instances where correlations are made--- a wild turkey winds up lost in this park like Zelda once did or like wikipedians wind up at wikipedia and sometimes we go and sometimes we never leave. Masterknighted (talk) 07:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure, people may learn about the turkey and consequently read about ZF—this sort of learning by association is delightful. However, the same magnitude connection doesn't exist in both directions: in the context of ZF's life and works, the fact that someone might have named a bird after her some 60 years after she died, due to a coincidence in location, is IMO trivial.


 * Other issues contributed to my decision to revert: the source you cited (which I read in its entirety at the time) does not support your assertion because it does not mention ZF at all; a similar edit by you had been reverted by someone else as 'unsourced and dubious trivia'; the article on the turkey has been tagged for unclear notability for 6 months; this article is a featured article and has been carefully vetted for content; and your edit overwrote this article's featured article star (which is how it came to my attention in the first place).


 * I will copy this (your post and my response) to the article talk page, for further discussion with other interested editors. Maralia (talk) 17:54, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Fowl pop-culture rears its head again (and goes gobble gobble). Ottava Rima (talk) 18:03, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I suspect there's an awful lot of nn articles in Category:Famous animals, but I must admit to being fond of Tirpitz (pig) and Nils Olav. Maralia (talk) 18:38, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Hodge is one of the few literary critters that deserve mention on an author bio page. One day I will get that page to FA status so Raul can celebrate Caturday with style.Ottava Rima (talk) 19:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Should the decision have flown the other way; why then there may have been something fowl in the state of wiki- And You have certainly gone cold turkey on Zelda! Seems to me you forget the play is the thing discussion and learning should be lively and creative. You are more fixated on the prominence of articles in the roster of this, that, and the other thing in hierchical reference to each other than you are to the broad outlay of existance's rich tapestry.Masterknighted (talk) 20:14, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

MilHist FACs
Maralia, any chance you can pick on some of the MilHist folks to review more non-MilHist FACs, and then maybe others will review theirs? Best, Sandy Georgia (Talk) 20:15, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I know I try to review one or two MilHist FACs per month if I can get through the pages. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 20:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Sure, but some of them are good about doing so anyway, so I'd better check before I go pinging their talk pages. Ottava, your articles aren't the speediest reads either :D Maralia(talk) 05:04, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I know, I know. But there is only so many ships one can take before you start saying "didn't I read this already?!?!" Ed17 and his Brazilian fleet made me scream and almost rip my hair out after having 3 different GA preps, multiple peer reviews, and at least 2 FACs that I can differentiate all on pages that I could swear were the same. ;/ Ottava Rima (talk) 20:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess I should take comfort from the fact that no one is complaining about interchangable bishops? (big evil grin) Ealdgyth - Talk 21:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I told Moni nearly 2 years ago that you couldn't pay me to touch an FA about sports or religion. Clearly I am a big pushover, though: since then I've worked on some of your bishops, Edward VIII abdication crisis, Jackie Robinson and 2009 Orange Bowl, to name a few I can remember. Maralia (talk) 23:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but most of my bishops are "bad boys", not saints. And even the saints are... obscure, not someone like Mother Theresa. I should do Anselm someday but he's too goody-two-shoes for me to get much interest going... I do like the ship articles though, they are short, sweet, and to the point! Ealdgyth - Talk 23:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Peter Heywood, Bounty mutineer
I have recently expanded this former stub, and it's now at Peer Review. Knowing that you have an interest in ships, shipwrecks and all related matters, I wondered if you'd like to have a look? Specifically, the article mentions lots of naval ships and ranks; I'm usually uncertain about whether I have dealt with these correctly and would appreciate any advice on these (or anything, for that matter). Brianboulton (talk) 22:13, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds intriguing; I'll take a look. On another topic, I have a wiki-related idea that will either delight or terrify you (on second thought, perhaps both). I'll try to drop you an email soonish, once I've put my thoughts together. Maralia (talk) 22:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know whether to whoop or whimper! Thank you for your edits & notes re Heywood. It's a little hard to answer points raised as in-line notes, but can I assure you that "hard core" (not "hardcore" which is building rubble) is fully idiomatic in BritEng. It means the intransigent nucleus of a group. If you can suggest another word or term meaning the same thing, I'll be happy to change. Brianboulton (talk) 23:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

JFK Assisnation as a Featured Article
The reason I added it as a FA is because it is a good article and has well descripted infromation, that makes it enough to become one. That's why I added in the first place back on November 12, also it was an important part of U.S. history, hope you realize that. Talladega87 (talk) 18:46, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * No, I'm afraid that isn't "enough to become one." It's unfortunate that you deleted my query at your talk page back on 13 November instead of responding at the time, because it appears from the above and this that you are still confused about how articles become featured on Wikipedia. Articles aren't simply designated as FA by any editor that feels they should be one; as noted at the top ofWP:Featured articles (the page at which you added JFK), an article must go through our Featured article candidate process, in which multiple editors review it against thefeatured article criteria. Maralia (talk) 19:04, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I clearly understand, but articles like The Notorious B.I.G. has semi-minimal, compare to Tom Pryce. Right now, I'm trying to get some NASCAR articles to be good enought for a FA, sine there is none, along with some Indy 500 ones too. Not mad at all, I'm trying to make a name of myself. Talladega87 (talk) 22:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
...for getting the academy awards out. I appreciate it. TomStar81 (Talk) 22:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Nicholas Mayall FAC
Hello Maralia,

I'd love to get your copy edit help on the FAC for the astronomer Nicholas Mayall. If you have some time, please come take a look and make any improvements you can.

Thanks.

WilliamKF (talk) 01:44, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Tweaks and nit picks
Thanks for monitoring and fixing these little things. Sometimes it is hard to come up with the right text first time, and another pair of eyes is great. Colin°Talk 18:13, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. A little distance helps! Maralia (talk) 18:45, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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Ha!
... I'm not going anyway. ++Lar: t/c 04:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * In my hurry to fix my boneheaded clicking error, I hadn't even noticed *what* I had rolled back! Was trying to switch tabs to close my damn cookie recipe; couldn't bear to see it on the screen after an exhausting 5 hours of rolling out/cutting/baking/decorating. We now have Christmas crocodiles and dolphins to go along with the reindeer, stars, gingerbread men, etc (5-year-old boys are WEIRD).Maralia (talk) 04:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Now, don't confuse weirdness with genius. ;) — Ed  (talk  • majestic titan)  04:29, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Why crocs instead of alligators? And do they have tiny timepieces embedded in their bellies? ++Lar: t/c13:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Battle of Villers-Bocage copyedit
Hi Maralia,

I have been working with EyeSerene‎ on the Battle of Villers-Bocage article and he has recommended yourself as a possible person to address the comments raised byTony on Featured article candidates/Battle of Villers-Bocage/archive2 as the two of us are two close to the subject at hand.

Would you be able to take a look at it, it currently is coming towards the end of its review so I can see if we extend it while changes are being made?--EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 12:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I will take a look. I have horrible lag today, so it may take me a couple days to get much done. Maralia (talk) 19:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for this Maralia. I think the article is pretty clear tbh, but Tony could well be right that we're too close to the subject to see what's juming out at him. Your fresh perspective is very welcome :) EyeSerene talk 19:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

..I've always wanted to use one of those funny blue boxes... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:39, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

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North Carolina class battleship
Maralia, I'm going to go ahead and promote this, but I'd feel better if you'd run through it. The hyphen issues on MilHist articles make me crazy :)   I hope you have a very Merry Christmas !  Sandy Georgia (Talk) 03:33, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Will take a look soonish. I've just gotten back home from a 3-day trip that was extended to a week, thanks to TWO FEET of snow. While packing to come home, I slipped coming down the stairs and landed on my tailbone on the bottom step—and that was before I even went outside. Thanks to the weather, I'm still not done with my Christmas shopping OR my baking. My FIVE-year-old informed me tonight that he doesn't believe in Santa anymore. Pondering stuffing the December page from my calendar into the Año Viejo this year. Sheesh. Hope yours is going better! Maralia(talk) 06:38, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * oh, Maralia! Well, a bad dress rehearsal equals a good performance, so your Christmas and 2010 should be great!  Ouch-- I hope your tailbone's ok.  Doesn't believe in Santa anymore means less presents and shenanigans for you to have to go through :)  I'm packed, and off for fun in the sun; glad the snow hit when it did, and not now!  My año nuevo is going to be great !  Merry Christmas,Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 07:28, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Maralia!
Haven't seen you around much lately, unfortunately. Miss you. Hope you and Maralia Jr. have a wonderful holiday and I hope to see you again. --Moni3 (talk) 13:53, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Copyedit request
Seasons greetings! Could you please copyedit this medium length article I just posted? I'm going to try to nominate it for Featured fairly soon. Cla68 (talk) 11:56, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Umm, perhaps it might be better to wait until the article completes AfD and the content disputes are resolved. If it survives the AfD, I still plan on eventually nominating it for Featured.Cla68 (talk) 23:17, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I see that it survived AFD, but a merge discussion was opened afterward. Will wait to hear more from you. Maralia (talk) 03:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Favor
Maralia, I have a favor to ask of you: when we officially hit 2010, would write a special piece on the numbers for '09 and how they compare to '08? I've made passing mentions of them in the December newsletter, but I think a special report on the numbers would be nice and your chart does do an outstanding job of comparing the data. TomStar81 (Talk) 11:09, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Ping: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Coordinators -MBK004 08:36, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

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Alzheimer's disease
I just wanted to let you know that I made this edit to the article Alzheimer's disease. I appreciated your input the last time I tried to edit this article. Thank you. Bus stop (talk) 01:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello again! I tend to agree with the editor that removed that info as too preliminary; a single unreviewed study in mice IMO doesn't meet the criteria for inclusion yet. Promising, though (albeit more than a bit strange!). Thanks for pointing it out to me. Maralia (talk) 03:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I know we've been this before...
...but another question. When is a hyphen needed in class names? Something like "Gorgon class monitors" needs one, right? I was looking at Featured topic candidates/Gorgon class monitor/archive1 and was wondering if it should be renamed. — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  02:03, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As per Naming conventions (ships), uses as a noun are not hyphenated, but hyphens are used when the class name is used as an adjective. — Kralizec!(talk) 04:09, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * You're going to laugh...especially considering I am in college (ie should know this) and can write rather well...but I'm not sure that I know what you mean by that. :/ I didn't pay attention to all the "noun"/"verb"/"adjective" crap and never had to do sentence diagrams. Heh.
 * Are you saying that "Gorgon-class monitor" needs a hyphen because "class" is the adjective, but "Gorgon class" does not, or something more? I just hope you aren't laughing too much by this point. :) — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  08:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

No worries ... I am an English Nazi who tested out of most of his college-level English classes, and I even get it mixed up sometimes! Here are some examples: However as WP:NC-SHIP notes, "if in doubt, do not hyphenate." — Kralizec! (talk) 15:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
 * noun: "The seventh USS Enterprise was Yorktown class."
 * adjective: "ARA General Belgrano was built just before the start of WWII as a Brooklyn-class light cruiser."
 * So if "Brooklyn-class light cruiser" is right, shouldn't we move the class articles? :/ — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  05:10, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * No; that would run afoul of WP:COMMONNAMES. The articles are correctly titled without a hyphen. However, almost any time you would use 'x-class shiptype' in text on Wikipedia, it should be hyphenated, per Kralizec's explanation above (as this is 'adjective-adjective noun'). When saying only 'x class', there is no hyphen because the construct is 'adjective noun'.Maralia (talk) 03:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Amagi class
Hey, you can take nominator credit on this any time you feel like adding it to your user page. :) — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  21:56, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder—I have been away quite a bit lately, and hence forgetful, but I did manage to take care of that a week or two ago :) Maralia (talk) 03:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, I didn't notice that you had; was waiting for you to post it on your user page. :) — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  08:05, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Shipwrecks and Ships merger discussion.
Hello. I'm posting this notice here since you're listed as a member of the Shipwrecks project. A merge proposal has been suggested on the project talk pagehere. Suggestions and ideas are welcome. Thanks. --Brad (talk) 23:13, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Milhist task force reorganisation
I've now completed the merger of the Lebanese military history task force into the Middle Eastern military history task force. As you are listed as a coordinator of both task forces, there's little (or nothing!) you need do, other than be aware that the merger has taken place :) It's possible former Lebanese TF members may wish to create a working group under their new task force's umbrella, but this can be addressed if the situation arises. All the best, EyeSerene talk 12:22, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Bristol Bus Boycott, 1963
Hi there. You made some valuable comments on the above at the FAC. The nominator appears to have undertaken major revisions to address them. Would you consider re-visiting the article and, if your concerns have been addressed, amending your post on the nomination discussion page? Regards,hamiltonstone (talk) 22:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I sure will—in fact I took another look last night, but got hung up on a content issue and ended up reading a big chunk of one of the sources looking for clarification. I should be able to write up some comments tonight. Thanks for the reminder, in any case! Maralia (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi - thanks for your useful comments in the FAC review. Is there anything left to address? Jezhotwells (talk) 19:06, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:ASCB talk
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7th Infantry Division (United States) Copy-edit
Hello. I am in the process of pushing the 7th Infantry Division article to Featured status, however it failed its most recent review because one user requested a copy-edit. I was wondering if you would be willing to provide a copy edit for the article or if you knew someone else willing to do so. Thank you, — Ed! (talk) 14:06, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Translation project
Hi there, I've started a list of the articles we should aim to include in the first wave of this project. We are aiming to start off by transferring about 100-200 articles into about several developing world language Wikipedias. It will hopefully expand after that. I've started a list here User:TimVickers/Article list. Please add articles that you think will be useful, and of reasonable quality. Tim Vickers (talk) 21:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Africa and Asia in terms of geography - although the languages haven't been fixed yet, one target language mentioned was Swahili. As you say, we can think more about specific gaps once the project is up and running, but I'm thinking of this list as the "bare essentials". Tim Vickers (talk) 17:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Outfitting
How do you feel about "outfitting" vs. "fitting-out"? Both are mentioned at fitting-out; fitting-out seems more common in naval books, but sounds a little more "jargony" to my ear. I don't have a preference, really, I just want to know what to do that's not so likely to get reverted in a peer review. (Watching) - Dank (push to talk) 20:55, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Jargony, yes, but there's no substitute that would convey it precisely IMO. 'Outfitting' to me is preparation (replenishing stores, minor configuration changes to suit a particular mission, etc.), not the completion inherent in fitting out. Maralia (talk) 21:24, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. It looks like I've got some hyphenating to do; best I can tell, "fitting-out" is the noun and "fitting out" is the verb, does that look right? - Dank (push to talk) 21:28, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
 * P.S. On a completely different subject: some accessibility concerns have never troubled me too much; if a Wikipedia page doesn't display correctly on an iPhone, I don't think that's going to shock people. The iPad and other tablets are a different story; are you with me that, certainly for FAs and hopefully for GA ship articles, they should look okay on an iPad's 9.7" screen? - Dank (push to talk) 21:35, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Conversions on ship articles at FAC
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Bristol Bus Boycott, 1963 FAC review
Hi Maralia, I did respond to your comments in the now archived review for the above article. I think I have addressed your concerns and really would appreciate a response as I propose to renominate the article. I did post a request above, but you may have missed it amongst other posts. Thanks.Jezhotwells (talk) 02:28, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I entirely missed that! I remember getting pinged about this before by Hamiltonstone, though, and I'm really sorry for not following through. I reread the article at the time, started some notes to use in updating my comments at the FAC, got absorbed in skimming the Dresser source in an attempt to figure out the answer to one of my questions...and never finished the job. I think it's really important to follow up on my own reviews at FAC, and I'm sorry I dropped the ball on this one. I've located my notes, and will give this a full read tomorrow (I am useless after midnight, which it is here). Thanks for being so patient with me. Maralia (talk) 05:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your input - I will get down to the library and look at the newspapers. Jezhotwells (talk) 08:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The little peoples' submarine
Oh man, I don't get a lot of laughs out of Wikipedia but you gave me one there! Thanks. Rumiton (talk) 04:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I fully expected it to be someone on a politically correct AWB rampage :) Maralia (talk) 05:26, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

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Happy Maralia's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. —Rlevse • Talk  • 02:12, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Congrats! Could not have happened to a nicer person!!  — Kralizec! (talk) 05:15, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You've deserved this for a long time, my friend. Thanks for all the help you've rendered to me over ... let's just say a lot of articles. :-) — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  05:43, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I was unexpectedly away for over a week, and missed this. What a pleasant surprise! Thank you all kindly :)
 * Kralizec – I think you owe me an email. (By which I mean: I haven't heard from you since, oh, before my son was potty-trained...and he will start kindergarten this fall.)
 * Ed – What do you have in the works at the moment? (Don't wait until it's already at FAC to tell me!) Maralia (talk) 05:27, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm slowly rewriting USS Washington (BB-56), but that's not even close to being finished, so the only article I have is Dutch 1913 battleship proposal ... which I just submitted to FAC a couple days ago. :-) If you could take a quick look-through, that would be awesome! Thanks muchly, — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  16:25, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Tosa

 * If you have the time, could you read through JAPANESE BATTLESHIP Tosa? I'm not expecting any major prose issues, and I don't want to force you to do a full-on comprehensive review, but your thoughts on the overall flow and organization would be greatly appreciated. — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  06:34, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Will do. Maralia (talk) 15:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Boy, you are a terrible copyeditor. Just why did I ask you to look at it? ;) Thank you! — Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  15:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh. As I said in the edit summary, six months after Amagi, I *still* maintain that it should be endashed, not hyphenated. But I have plenty of other things to argue about in life :)Maralia (talk) 15:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

(outdent) Okay, done. A few things: Otherwise looking good, given that there's only so much one can write about an unfinished ship. Maralia (talk) 16:35, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Holy crap, you seem to have finally figured out when to hyphenate class names. Yay!
 * I like the plaintext conversions, but they need nonbreaking spaces.
 * I didn't see alt text (but maybe that's no longer a requirement? Am a bit out of date.)
 * Tosa class battleship says that Tosa "was scheduled to be completed in March 1923", which does not agree with this article.


 * Boy, you should be so proud. Took me long enough. ;)
 * Okay, I can do that.
 * Well, it is and it isn't. WP:ALT was delisted to an essay because people aren't sure that describing an image is the proper format for alt text.
 * The class article is wrong, I'll have to fix that. However, I'm off to bed; I'll work on this tomorrow. Thanks! —<font face="Baskerville Old Face"> Ed  (talk  •  majestic titan)  04:51, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Question
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The article Ship
I was reading the article on Ships and I thought it was written really well. Since you have the highest edit percentage on the article, I thought I would ask you; does it have enough to be Featured Article? I think it would be great. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 23:52, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note, but I'm afraid that article is really not close to FA quality at this time. I would be happy to see it improved, though! Maralia (talk) 04:27, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Looking for something to do ?
Arg - Sorry I missed Maralia day- I hope you enjoyed it and are doing well! Just in case you were looking for some copyeditting to do, we seem to have wrested alcoholism from the jaws of pro-alcohol - it's in a GA review, but I'm not completely convinced yet. LiteratureGeek has put a lot of effort in recently, Arcadian also and not forgetting to mention numerous other editors inputs. I've been mostly moving sections around but whilst doing so, and with my mediocre language skills, have been fixing bits here and there. I think there are a lot of grammar / flow of sentences issues that can easily be improved upon ( with the right skills that is ;) ) that might be your thing. Anyways -all the best ( wishes / holidays / life / etc. ), see ya later.--Lee&there4;V (talk  • <font color="#a3bfb1">contribs) 01:51, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi Lee! I have not been very active lately—lots going on in the real world—but this is an important article and I'd like to help. It's an enormous topic to tackle, and everyone working on it deserves accolades, for sure. At first glance, it appears to need a lot of work, though. My gut reaction is that it would benefit from more reorganization, much more precise language (it is a medical topic, after all!) and an expert review or three. I have started work on some copyediting. Are you done with your reorganization pass? Maralia (talk) 17:29, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey - that's cool ... breaks and maintenance modes are part of healthy editing :) I was working on some other stuff when this turned up myself - I was appaled at the alcohol related articles a while back and this article seemed the best bet to make a dent in getting them up to scratch. I am fairly happy with the structure now - the only bits I have earmarked to move are anything to do with prognosis/epidemiology into their appropriate sections ( there's an occoasional sentence here and there). Don't know if you missed it but the HD article made it to the main page featured article in Feb, this caused some excitement in the HD support community - who were quite pleased with it! - I am currently working through a couple of books I was sent to expand the history section... so thanks on everyones behalf for your help getting it where it is :) --Lee&there4;V (talk  •<font color="#a3bfb1">contribs) 22:11, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I do remember HD getting to the main page—happy to hear that it was so well received in the support community! It was a pleasure to work on that article, truly. Do drop me a note if you make significant changes that you think I should wordsmith, since I'm not likely to catch it on my watchlist.
 * I will keep plugging away at alcoholism when I have time. Maralia (talk) 04:27, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Although we agree it needs more work, it was just promoted to GA - Literaturegeek had it listed as one of the articles that drew him in to WP editing, so I bet he's over the moon right now! Thanks for your help :) Lee&there4;V (talk  • <font color="#a3bfb1">contribs) 18:17, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Douglas MacArthur
Thanks for your assistance with Douglas MacArthur. Perhaps you could leave your thoughts on Featured article candidates/Douglas MacArthur/archive1. Thanks!Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:04, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm writing up my thoughts for the FAC now. Maralia (talk) 21:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

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With regard to Robert Halpin Captaining the Great Eastern
I believe that the article on Robert Halpin needs to be corrected. He took the captaincy of the Great Eastern in 1869, after the Atlantic Cables were laid. Several articles on web sites around confirm that he went on to lay many cables internationally, which in itself is a great achievement. My interest in this is spurred by the fact that James Anderson is a distant relative, and it is a point of family pride that he captained the Great Eastern during the Atlantic cable-laying endeavours.

At the time the Atlantic cables were laid, James Anderson was the captain, and Halpin was his first officer. It is even reported that Halpin's navigational abilities were integral to the success of these ventures, particularly when, having laid the successful 1866 cable, they returned to the site where the 1865 attempt had been severed, and grappled it up to the surface, thus providing the second functioning link.

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New Template
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Hyphens
Hi, your favorite thing, I know: would you be able to comment at Featured article candidates/Rivadavia class battleship/archive1 on the use of titles likeRivadavia-class battleship vs. Rivadavia-class battleship? Thanks. Hope all is well in Maralia-land. How's your kid doing? :-) Ed (talk • majestic titan) 06:58, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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You've been cited
The Spurgeon Series 1855 & 1856: Unabridged Sermons In Modern Language cites a userspace page you started, http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Maralia/SS_Arctic ,rather than the article space article on theSS Arctic. I discovered this when I was reviewing the deletion of the article on the SS Vesta.

Incidentally, I requested a deletion review on the SS Vesta.

I saw the ships userbox on your user page. Perhaps you have an opinion on how much weight should be given to the essay WP:Notability (vehicles) in discussions over deleting articles on ships?

The essay argues we should only have articles on exceptional individual "vehicles", and that, usually, anything meaningful should go in the article on the vehicle's class.

I can see some sense behind applying the advice in this essay to cars, trucks, bicycles, carts, trains -- even airplanes. But it seems to me bo be both contrary to our usual practice with ship, and contrary to what makes sense.

Fighter aircraft and airliners can be as expensive as ships, or even more expensive. But they are also more standardized than ships, and they undertake different kinds of missions. Fighters almost always fly in squadrons with identical fighters. Airliners share routes with identical airliners. Whereas naval vessels, coast guard vessels, fishery and environmental patrol vessels, tramp freighters, and many other kinds of ships normally proceed alone, on open ended voyages, that may not be repeated.

Do you think it would make sense to change that essay so it explicitly excludes ships from its advice?

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 19:26, 16 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Good grief! It's bad enough to cite Wikipedia in the first place, but citing a subpage in my userspace?! Astonishing.


 * I would not choose to argue the deletion of SS Vesta; if I recall correctly, it was a nondescript merchant ship routinely used to carry men and supplies to a far-flung fishing station. While it did gain a certain notoriety as a result of the Arctic incident, a redirect is surely sufficient.


 * As to the question of ship notability in general, I'm afraid I have been out of the loop, wiki-wise, for too long to have much to contribute to the conversation. For what it's worth, in 2007–2008 I revamped the WP:SHIPS project page and created WikiProject Ships/sidebar, which was intended to list all relevant guidance. The notability essay you mention is not listed therein, nor do I recall ever being aware of its existence. That being said, however, I find the requirements listed in Notability (vehicles) to be quite reasonable. (The scare quotes in that essay, though, are inexcusable.)


 * Thanks for letting me know about Vesta, and about the cite. I really must get off my duff and rewrite Arctic someday. It's a sensational story.


 * Maralia (talk) 05:56, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive
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