User talk:MaranoFan/Archive 13

Promotion of Made You Look (Meghan Trainor song)

 * Another job very well done! SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:26, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Your insightful comments at the PR greatly helped.--NØ 13:28, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-retired
Hello again. Congrats on your latest FAC promotion. Apologies if this comes across as intrusive, but I have noticed that you have put the semi-retired template on your talk page, and I just wanted to reach out to make sure everything was okay. Aoba47 (talk) 21:42, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for checking, Aoba47! Everything is fine on the real life/health front. I'm just having a knee-jerk reaction to my new nomination not doing as well as the last one. It is also difficult to cope with watching five music FACs nominated at the same time when I had gatekept this as a somewhat unique achievement in my head over the past few years. Anyways, hopefully I'll regain inspiration and this will just be a phase. I guess I am starting to understand what HĐ felt when they decided to quit, lol.--NØ 03:02, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the response. I am glad that you are doing well. I can completely understand that, and it is a fair response. It is possible in some sense that your past music FACs have inspired other editors or helped to ope the door to make them more acceptable in that space. Just to put a more positive spin on it. I do think the FAC space has changed over the years, but I am not exactly sure how to explain it.
 * On a somewhat related tangent, I always get disappointed and discouraged whenever I see editors put down work on entertainment-based articles because at the end of the day, Wikipedia is a volunteer service and we should respect what other editors are interested in and the time and energy they put into the site. To me, it is such a weird thing to be outraged about since Wikipedia is such a large place that no one is being forced to look at topics they do not enjoy.
 * Anyways, I hope you do get inspired again in the future, but if not, you have done a lot of work on here that you should be proud of. Breaks can be very important to figure this out and sometimes, it is necessary to walk away and let things go (but not saying you have to). I have been less inspired lately as well, but for me, it is more so trying to put more focus on off-Wiki activities. I do miss HĐ, and I hope that he is happy and proud of the work still being done on the Swift articles. Aoba47 (talk) 15:27, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Honestly, it's really great to even be able to share this with someone. This is something I have been feeling for a while. Thanks for hearing me out and not being judgemental. I believe you have retired a few times as well after frustrations at FAC so I really appreciate you sharing your perspectives on this. Obviously, I can't ask other people to stop submitting FACs so I am just going to have to deal with it. I think another weird thing is how editors who are clearly influenced by me would rather ignore my FAC nominations and pretend I don't exist. I remember when I was starting out, I always made it a point to acknowledge you and HĐ as my influences, lol. Anyways, this rant is starting to sound like a Nicki Minaj tweet so I'll stop now. Hope you are having a great weekend!--N<b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 06:35, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You are all good. I think it is important to share these kinds of things, and it is much than keeping them bottled up. I probably have annoyed a lot people by going back and forth with retirement over the years. I appreciated that you have listed me as an influence in the past, and it was very humbling since it was and still is difficult to see such impact on this kind of platform. HĐ was a very solid editor who I believe still impacts a lot of editors on here through their work.
 * I can understand your feelings regarding this, and although I am sure your work has influenced other as well, I can understand feeling a certain way if it is not brought forward to you directly. I hope you are having a great weekend as well! I am still trying to balance out my schedule and time management. I know I have been saying that on here for years so here's hoping it finally connects (with work on my part of course). I have passed your FAC source review by the way. I thought it would help you a lot to get that done early in the nomination process, but I will likely take an extended break from reviews so apologies in advance for not getting to any future nominations if you choose to do more. Aoba47 (talk) 18:10, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Takin' It Back
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Your GA nomination of Takin' It Back
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Wikipedia Signpost/Next_issue/Next_featured_content
So, writing this up at the moment, and I need to ask one thing about Made You Look: It premiered in... Candy Crush Saga? Is that a thing that happens now? Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600th FP! 22:39, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey Adam, love the poem, lol. The music video for this song did premiere on Candy Crush Saga. I initially found it odd too but whatever strategy they used for this song clearly worked, so I'm not mad in retrospect.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 07:07, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Not something I've ever heard about anyone else doing. Might have to mention that - get a photo of Trainor and mention that in the caption. That's a hell of a DYK hook. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600th FP! 17:00, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oh My God (Adele song)
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"lips are movin"
MaranoFan, i had a question regarding this article and the associated blurb. the statement that the music video for this song is "the first [music video] created entirely by social media influencers" appears to be a rather bold claim that i admittedly find hard to believe. for example, i would assume that the self-made music videos by laina that predate "lips are movin" would be considered earlier music videos created entirely by a social media influencer. i noticed that the cited billboard source hedges the statement by reporting that trainor's video is "billed as the first-ever music video to be created entirely by social influencers".i presume that, if the claim is actually true, a very specific definition of "music video" is being used. furthermore, since philip andelman is singled out in the blurb as the music video's director, and the wikipedia article on him appears to mention nothing that would lead me to believe that he could be credibly called a social media influencer, the claim would also appear to need to use a very specific definition of "created" that would not include directors amongst the creators of a music video. in addition, wikipedia's own definition of "music video" appears to be rather inclusive, so i think that if we are going to be presenting this claim in wikivoice, we should be qualifying the statement appropriately, and i admittedly do not know what qualifications would be necessary.instead, would you be amenable to simply replacing "the first created entirely by social media influencers" with "said to be the first created entirely by social media influencers" or something similar? dying (talk) 14:01, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you today for the article, "about Meghan Trainor's second single "Lips Are Movin", which she wrote within eight minutes. Almost every critic that reviewed it compared this song to Trainor's debut single, and its release made Trainor the fifth female artist in Billboard Hot 100 history to follow her debut number-one single directly with a second top-five. Additionally, it is noteworthy as the first-ever music video made entirely by social media influencers."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:44, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the message, Gerda Arendt! I really appreciate your constant encouragement given how overcompetitive this space can feel sometimes.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 11:34, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, and now congrats for the next FA! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I loved to see Marian Anderson and her story of protest against discrimination by singing on Easter Sunday 9 April 1939 on the Main page yesterday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:23, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * My story today, Messiah (Handel), was my first dip into the FA ocean, thanks to great colleagues. - a few pics added, one day missing --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:14, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Today is the 80th birthday of John Eliot Gardiner. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oh My God (Adele song)
The article Oh My God (Adele song) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Oh My God (Adele song) and Talk:Oh My God (Adele song)/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Kyle Peake -- Kyle Peake (talk) 10:03, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Well done on such a quick pass, however I wish there was more reviewers around not only to take on everyone else's articles but mine too since I've got like five in the queue at the minute! --K. Peake 12:58, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oh My God (Adele song)
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New "I Drink Wine" coverage
Hello again. I am sure you are already aware of this, but Adele has performed "I Drink Wine" on James Corden's Carpool Karaoke, and there has been some renewed coverage on it. An IP user has added some information to the article with this edit, although they did not add any additional coverage to support this in the article. I just wanted to raise this to your attention if you were not already aware of it. Hope you are having a solid start to your week! Aoba47 (talk) 05:10, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey Aoba47, it's great to hear from you again! For some reason I was out of the loop on this so I really appreciate you bringing this to my attention. I have added a brief mention to the article since that section already looked quite big to me. Hope your week is going great as well!--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 21:30, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I am glad that I could help! To be honest, this just happened so it is not like you were really out of the loop long. I noticed it on a pop music subreddit, and I think it would be best to let you know. Your edits look appropriate to me. Thank you for the kind words! Aoba47 (talk) 23:59, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 May newsletter
The second round of the 2023 WikiCup has now finished. Contestants needed to have scored 60 points to advance into round 3. Our top five scorers in round 2 all included a featured article among their submissions and each scored over 500 points. They were:


 * Iazyges (1040) with three FAs on Byzantine emperors, and lots of bonus points.
 * Unlimitedlead (847), with three FAs on ancient history, one GA and nine reviews.
 * Epicgenius (636), a WikiCup veteran, with one FA on the New Amsterdam Theatre, four GAs and eleven DYKs
 * BennyOnTheLoose (553), a seasoned competitor, with one FA on snooker, six GAs and seven reviews.
 * 🇩🇪 FrB.TG (525), with one FA, a Lady Gaga song and a mass of bonus points.

Other notable performances were put in by Sammi Brie,  Thebiguglyalien,  MyCatIsAChonk,  PCN02WPS, and  AirshipJungleman29.

So far contestants have achieved thirteen featured articles between them, one being a joint effort, and forty-nine good articles. The judges are pleased with the thorough reviews that are being performed, and have hardly had to reject any. As we enter the third round, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:15, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Takin' It Back
-- RoySmith (talk) 12:02, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mother (Meghan Trainor song)
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Your GA nomination of Mother (Meghan Trainor song)
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Happy Birthday!
<div style="display: flex; align-items: center; min-height: 100px; padding: 1em; border: solid 3px #2B547E; background-color: #E6E6FA;"> Wishing MaranoFan a very happy birthday on behalf of the Birthday Committee!   interstate  five   00:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Unfortunately, not many irl people remembered it this year. I really appreciate the message.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 04:26, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mother (Meghan Trainor song)
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Meghan Trainor
Hello again! Sorry for the super random message, but for whatever reason while I was reviewing Takin' It Back, I was reminded of "With You" and how much that I enjoyed it. It is interesting to look back on the brief moment that Trainor had more dance-oriented music.

I know in the past I said "Like I'm Gonna Lose You" was my favorite Trainor song, but in retrospect, I think my favorite is really "Wave". The lyrics just really connected with me, the production was fun and different for her, and I still think it is a shame it never really took off. I fully get why Trainor returned to her doo-wop sound, and while it is not for me, I also fully get why she focused her career more on TikTok, but I wish she had experimented more with electronic music.

Your FAC also reminded me of Trainor's song from Songland and that show in general. That show has seemingly been forgotten by everyone, which is a shame since a show highlighting songwriters was such a great idea on paper. Just thought it was interesting how many random memories a FAC could bring back lol. I just felt like sharing that with you. Aoba47 (talk) 18:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey, Aoba47! Honestly, I think the music Trainor was releasing during the Treat Myself and album delay era was some of her best. The song from Songland was called "Hurt Me", and that was one of my favorites too. I often think about how "Let You Be Right" predicted the disco revival that happened earlier this decade. It is a shame the commercial underperformance probably scared her away from doing that sound again. I haven't even tried to think about bringing Treat Myself to FAC because of how much that article depends on less reputed sources, lol.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 21:28, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I could see your point about "Let You Be Right". It has a great production that I think would have been better appreciated if done with a different artist. I've seen a lot of people say that Trainor does the same song over and over again, and I think this era does show her versatility. "Nice to Meet Ya" was another example of her doing something slightly different and The Love Train has a solid mixture of styles.
 * I understand your concerns with sourcing with the FAC process, and I have been there before. Even with sources I know are considered high-quality, it is a concern in the back of my mind. I hope this is okay to ask, but do you have any articles in mind for future FACs? I've seen your work on "Mother", and I was curious if that would be in the FAC pipeline? Aoba47 (talk) 22:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I think it's tough to predict my future with regard to FAs. Unfortunately, the whole FA process gives me a negative vibe nowadays. I feel a little too overexposed there, like Taylor Swift in her Reputation era or something, lol. I feel like some people want me to disappear from there like Swift disappeared from the public eye back then. I may start writing about UFOs or something to escape the politics of contributing to music FAs altogether. But it is very tempting to complete these featured/good topic series once you get started!--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 23:09, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I would encourage you to pursue whatever would make you the most comfortable and happy. I know that is really cliché and obvious, but you should put yourself first. I always find breaks helpful. I am not the best at taking them, particularly on Wikipedia, but in the long run, it is sometimes best to pull back for a bit. Not saying you have to do that. More so just saying that it is understandable and valid. Aoba47 (talk) 23:41, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Takin' It Back/archive1

 * I have struck the words about inferring "moaning" to be a personal attack on me as this is not stated explicitly. Will you do the same for your lie about my purported "wish to withdraw from the review process" and aspersions on Gog's talk page about how I am somehow in a Four Award rivalry with you? Heartfox (talk) 18:49, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Dear Heartfox
 * You can remove the comment altogether, since no one has replied to it. The "My Man" peer review has nothing to do with the Takin' It Back FAC, and if you had an issue with my comments on the former you should have brought it directly to my talk page. The "struck" comment, as it currently is, is still off-topically taken out of context and seems to have been placed there to convince prospective reviewers that reviewing my nomination is somehow not worth their time.
 * Moving fully addressed reviews (which you explicitly stated) to the talk page of a nomination is normal practice which even coords have done on plenty of nominations before. They have already stated it will be taken into account pre-closing. Anyways, being competitive about Four Awards is not necessarily a negative thing, so I disagree that needs to be struck. Seems to be a random thing you have picked out to serve as a counterbalance to your actual aspersions on my nomination. Anyways, it seems clear nothing productive is going to come from us engaging on this further (given the continued use of passive aggressive words: "your lie", "aspersions"). This discussion has consumed me for the past two days and has been the source of a lot of negativity. I am devastated to say this, as a self-professed Lamb, but I think it would be most productive if we stay away from each other's FACs in the future. I have been hard at work on this article since June(!) last year, and you have uttered absolutely nothing positive about it since commencing your review. The fact that you are repeatedly indicating all of your comments have been addressed, but refusing to support, and trying to restore inflammatory comments on the review page blatantly indicates malicious intent. Given the constant bad faith assumptions, I have neither the strength nor energy to engage in this further. Let's do this voluntarily so I don't have to seek administrative intervention (which I absolutely will if the disruption continues). I do not wish to hear from you again. Regards.--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 20:42, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Four Award

 * Thank you!--<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 08:50, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

Neptune FAC
I'm a little confused by your edit summary there. Did you mean to remove your comment? &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 13:18, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

One-account restriction lifted
Per this close at WP:AN, your one-account restriction has been lifted.  starship .paint  (exalt) 13:22, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Talking to Yourself
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Your GA nomination of Talking to Yourself
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FAC-related question
Hello again. Apologies for leaving a random message on your talk page. I was wondering if you could do a media review for my current FAC? I completely understand if you would prefer not to do so. You've already gone above and beyond with the image and prose reviews, but I still wanted to reach out and ask anyone. I am very grateful for all of the comments and help that I have received so quickly. I did not expect to get so much, and it has only been active for a few days. I hope you are doing well. Aoba47 (talk) 23:36, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey Aoba! My comment that there are no licensing issues and there are succint captions included an assessment of the audio sample as well. I'll make sure to pop back in and clarify this should the coords have doubts about it. Hope you are having a great start to your week :) <b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 07:05, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Adele One Night Only
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Your GA nomination of Adele One Night Only
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Promotion of Takin' It Back

 * Congrats on this! Was about to get back to the FAC but noticed it was promoted. Keep up the great work, Ippantekina (talk) 03:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)