User talk:MaranoFan/Archive 5

HotNewHipHop not reliable?
I use HotNewHipHop regularly and I see nothing wrong with it. We can't easily distinguish it as a blog, as it's published by a media company and has various writers, so it's not a WP:SPS write-off. It's also not listed at WP:ALBUMAVOID, and I only see only one thread (with no replies) at WP:RSN asking it's reliable or not. Again, unless it's clearly a blog set up through Wordpress, is a student newspaper, looks like a site random music fans cobbled together and bought a .com domain for, or is already listed at WP:ALBUMAVOID, sometimes it's best not to declare to others in summaries that a source is not reliable. I've seen editors do it for sources that are actually recommended under WP:RSMUSIC; editors quite often claim Idolator is not reliable but it's under RSMUSIC as well.  Ss  112   08:36, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Someone did start a discussion asking about the reliability of HotNewHipHop at RSN but it failed to get replies. I've never seen it used on any featured articles, but it might be reliable for GA purposes and in general. The only reason I removed it from the Glitter article is because its a GA (so I wanted to use the best possible sources), and more than five sources for the same thing feel WP:OVERKILL. I suppose it can be used in instances where a better source isn't available. Best,  N  Ø  08:48, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Edit: Also, there's no evidence of editorial oversight or a publication company on their About Us page. It reads like an advertisement.-- N Ø  09:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Plenty of sites' About Us pages read like an advertisement and don't talk about their editorial process. Doesn't mean it's a blog or not reliable.  Ss  112   13:20, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * But those sites are associated with publishers and reliable media companies (eg: Viacom Media Networks, Prometheus Global Media). The about page of HotNewHipHop reads like a self-published blog, even its Wikipedia article does not specify who publishes the site. I'd be hesitant to use such a source in anything I nominate for GA or FA status. Its the site being reliable that needs to be proved, not it being unreliable. Also, it becomes clear upon reading the staff page that the contributors to this site are just regular hip hop fans with lists of their favorite artists but no list of qualifications or prior work.-- N Ø  13:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not even referring to sites associated with big publishers, and if you're referring to Billboard by naming Prometheus Global Media, Prometheus hasn't published Billboard in years. By linking to the staff page you've just proved the site has an editorial team. Your view that it's a blog is still unfounded—it's not got "powered by Wordpress" in its footer or some other obvious blog layout. Sure, it didn't need to be on the Glitter article but if you're about to start removing it everywhere you find it, I definitely have an issue with that, and I don't think I'd be the only one. I then think you would need to go to WP:RSN, which is what's that there for—for a consensus about a source being reliable or not. If you have concerns, you should take them up there, not attempt to set a precedent by removing it on one article. I don't have anything more to say.  Ss  112   13:59, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was gonna say. Please take it up on RSN and not here. I'm not sure how WordPress being the software used to design the website is supposed to make it reliable. As for the Glitter article, I only removed it because there were 5 more reputed sources available to source the same exact fact. This source is not used anywhere on featured articles (or even GAs?) so I'm gonna assume I'm not the only one who takes issue with its lack of editorial oversight and unexperienced staff. Anyway, I'm no expert and this is my talk page (not an official noticeboard), everything I'm stating here is just my opinion and not policy. I never said I'm gonna start removing it from every article so don't know where you got that. I'm still not convinced its a reliable source but what I think really doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Please refer RSN. Have a great day!-- N Ø  14:10, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm stepping back in here to say you misunderstood what I said. I said the opposite of what you're claiming—being created using Wordpress and having a "powered by Wordpress" tag at the bottom would obviously make it a blog per WP:SPS and it doesn't have that. They probably already have some degree of editorial oversight with a team like that. Also, I don't know if you know how RSN works most of the time, but usually the editors who have concerns about sources go there. I am not going to seek consensus at a noticeboard for a site I don't have concerns with—to me, that's counterintuitive. And maybe FAs just haven't felt the need to use it.  Ss  112   23:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

TFL notification
Hi, MaranoFan. I'm just posting to let you know that List of awards and nominations received by Meghan Trainor – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for December 7. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 23:22, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Treat Myself
Hello! Your submission of Treat Myself at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SL93 (talk) 23:28, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

GAN requests
Hi again and thank you very much for passing "Taken by a Stranger". I wanted to ask you if you would have time to look into my two other GANs: Romanian Radio Airplay Chart and Romanian TV Airplay Chart? They're two relatively short article I've been waiting months to get reviewed. Just ignore this message if you don't have time... Cheers! Cartoon network freak (talk) 22:37, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Haha, I myself am stuggling to get my GANs Title (song) and MTrain Tour reviewed, truly a tough time for the pool of all GA noms which no one's bothering to review currently. I'll try to review more articles soon when I have time!-- N Ø  07:14, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Title (song)
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Your GA nomination of Title (song)
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Your GA nomination of Title (song)
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Advice
I defended you recently so I'm not an advisory. Your talkpage management is coming across as harsh. If you want to clear stuff off your page, great, just do it quietly. Legacypac (talk) 07:09, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you explain 'quietly'? . I'm really trying to be nice here despite a certain someone having been warned not to post here, yet I'm waking up every single day to a flamebait talk page message from them.-- N Ø  07:15, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Using edit summaries that flash across other editors watch lists feeds the dispute. Just clear without an edit summary and reduce the drama. I've not looked into the situation, just commenting on the optics of what you are doing. Legacypac (talk) 07:18, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I can do that, thanks for clarifying. I still laughed at the thought of someone assuming I 'followed' them to an article about the Billboard Hot 100 chart despite it being recently announced, and me being a pop music fan. That amount of bad faith is truly unheard of, lol.-- N Ø  07:22, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Dua Lipa
Hello, I never called her awards useless. Think about it what would make a good introduction including awards like the Los40 Music Awards, Teen Choice Awards and Radio Disney Music Awards or Awards like the NME Awards, Grammy Awards and the BRIT Awards only which are considered important awards will make the page like more creditable and presentable. Rodrigo1198 (talk) 09:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with you that we should trim the lead section. I think lets keep the Grammys, Billboard Music Awards, Video Music Awards, and the other more notable ones. I just don't agree with removing everything and keeping only the first sentence! Hence the restoration. Regards.-- N Ø  15:46, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
 * One final question, Rodrigo1198, is there a reason you want the article to start with the sentence "Dua Lipa is an English singer and songwriter"? It reads awkwardly and doesn't give as good of a start to the article as "English singer and songwriter Dua Lipa has won 29 awards from 99 nominations." The latter type of wording is the one thats used at List of awards and nominations received by Taylor Swift, List of awards and nominations received by Katy Perry, and List of awards and nominations received by Meghan Trainor which are all featured lists.-- N Ø  16:46, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Well, go with that one instead, I created the page and left it like that as I didn't know how to start the introduction. I didn't mean remove everything but keep notable awards that qualify her as an good artist. Rodrigo1198 (talk) 11:01, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

You can also put that she made history with receiving five BRIT nominations by a female artist something like that. Rodrigo1198 (talk) 11:01, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Now the page sounds good! Rodrigo1198 (talk) 11:01, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Treat Myself
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Ben’s Brother
Is Nathaniel Hartman BEN’S Brother?--2600:1017:B124:48E0:D515:F42D:7748:ED51 (talk) 20:21, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure who Ben is supposed to be and doesn’t seem like any notable individual called Nathaniel Hartman has a Wikipedia article either. Feel free to approach me with any doubts related to Wikipedia and editing though. Regards.— N Ø  20:25, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Meghan Trainor
Hello! Your submission of Meghan Trainor at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 17:46, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Meghan Trainor
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Honestly I've been trying to get Meghan Trainor to featured topic and Title to good topic status. The latter is gonna be hard though now that an article for "I'll Be Home" was created which has a lot of charting info, but no coverage in sources. Not sure if that will count as part of the topic though lol.-- N Ø  15:14, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

A pie for you!

 * Thank you! May this Christmas bring love and light to you and your family! Keep doing the amazing work you’re doing on Wikipedia.— N Ø  19:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!
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Your GA nomination of MTrain Tour
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The WikiCup
As a WikiCup judge, I have removed your submission claiming points for the GA MTrain Tour. It does not qualify for the 2019 WikiCup because the substantial work on the article was done during 2018 and not during this year's contest. The WikiCup rules explain this in greater detail. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, thats weird I wasn't aware of that rule. Thanks for judging this for us though, its a really fun contest and I have some featured content coming up that will get me points!-- N Ø  18:52, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * , So does that mean this featured topic is not eligible for submission either since all of the individual articles were promoted last year? That would be highly unfortunate.-- N Ø  06:39, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, the rule concerned is covered here. The basic requirement in general is that significant work should have been done on the article during the course of the contest. Featured and good topics are not an aspect of the WikiCup that I have come across much, so if in doubt, I suggest you submit the topic in the usual way and it will be properly looked at by a judge. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:55, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Title (Meghan Trainor album)
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Your GA nomination of Title (Meghan Trainor album)
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Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Radiohead/archive2
Got a new FLC. I put some comments on yours so I'd appreciate some here. Thanks! :) BeatlesLedTV (talk) 22:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Black Pink article title
Hey, I just thought I'd let you know, I've proposed a move of Black Pink to Blackpink as you suggested, in case you're interested in joining discussion. - Estoy Aquí (talk) 11:50, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of More than Friends (Jason Mraz song)
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Proposed deletion of Bury a Friend


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Chart Data
I know Chart Data is considered an unreliable source and I was just wondering where I could find the discussion on its reliability if you know where it is or if it exists. Thanks. Heartfox (talk) 20:11, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if Chart Data has specifically been discussed, but the reason it is considered unreliable is the same as twitter.com/chartnews, as WP:CHART states: "In general, reproduces information available directly from sources listed in Recommended charts. Sales figures appear to be obtained from a mixture of reliable and unreliable sources, including mediatraffic.de; in some cases, provided sales figures do not match those from recommended sources provided concurrently."-- N Ø  14:13, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out at peer review!

 * Thank you! For what it's worth, I don't think the article needs another peer review. You'll instantly have my support in its next FA since all my concerns were addressed in the second peer review itself.-- N Ø  16:39, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Swan Song (song)
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WikiCup 2019 March newsletter
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DYK nomination for Swan Song (song)
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Hello
Hello again. Apologies for the random message. I hope your exams went well and you are doing well overall. Just thought you would like to know that I listened The Love Train and I honestly enjoyed it a great deal. Maybe it is because I enjoy pop music and I am a hopeless romantic, but "Marry Me" has become my favorite song from her. It is a shame that the press release overshadowed the actual music because I think it is a good direction for Meghan. I enjoy her music ("Better When I'm Dancin'" and "Like I'm Gonna Lose You" are probably my two other favorites) and it is a shame that there is so much hate for her. Hopefully, she can learn from it (as she has made some mistakes) to grow as a songwriter and an artist in general. Aoba47 (talk) 02:06, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I liked Foolish and After You the most on the new EP. Actually now that you mention it, “Hopeless Romantic” is one of her best songs too!— N Ø  05:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Those are also very good songs, and I will have to check that out. Aoba47 (talk) 05:53, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Swan Song (song)
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Me Too (Meghan Trainor song)
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Your GA nomination of Me Too (Meghan Trainor song)
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A No No
I swear "A No No" was on there for March 12 haha! I wish there was an archive for March 12, not March 10. I think it was added last minute or something. Heartfox (talk) 02:48, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I trust you, but we will still need actual verification if we wanted to add the date to the article. Especially since there’s a reliable source in support of March 4.— N Ø  08:16, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Better (Meghan Trainor song)
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 * Congrats! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:55, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks to both of you. I wasn’t expecting the review to be picked up so quickly, so I nominated the "Me Too" article for DYK very recently. The sad thing is that unless that one gets approved in the next 7 days, I can’t nominate “Better”.— N Ø  18:01, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

User page kudos

 * Thanks a lot! I am indeed very proud of my user page. Every bad and good thing that happened to me on Wikipedia comes together to make the perfect essay :) — N Ø  05:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

GA articles
Hello, first of all, I want to thank you for reviewing "Mirror" article. Secondly, I would like to point out that you need to change the project's quality scale of the talk page to GA, as well as, to add the article to the list that you can find at the bottom, according to its category, 1. (I already add "Mirror", hope you don't mind).

Greetings, MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:16, 23 March 2019 (UTC)